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amd_logoA new marketing initiative from CPU firm AMD is looking to change the way Bob and Alice Consumer find a PC that fits their needs.

For years chipmakers like AMD and Intel have tried to attract consumers with hardware specifications. Memory, clockspeed and GPU figures have long had a home on a PC’s retail placard, but AMD thinks there’s a better way to inform buyers. That way is called VISION, and it is the name of a new branding effort which is designed to emphasize the experience a PC can provide irrespective of its hardware.

The goal of VISION, says AMD, is to give customers a way to identify a PC that will fit their needs without getting lost in the minutiae of specs.

“We believe most mainstream consumers are more interested in how they are going to use the system, not necessarily how fast it is,” says AMD CMO and SVP Nigel Dessau. “In its simplest form we are connecting the needs of the consumer to the PC – not the processor.”

On timing and competition

AMD’s new push comes less than six weeks from the October 22 launch of Windows 7, which is expected to spawn a flood of new business and residential PC purchases. The chip designer is working closely with major OEMs like Hewlett-Packard and Dell to get the branding on new boxes in time for the launch, but why?

Look no further than archrival Intel which, AMD says, currently rules the roost on the branding front.

“We know if people are choosing between Intel and AMD by looking at the current tags in Best Buy or other stores, we lose every time,” AMD VP of Worldwide Product Marketing Leslie Sobon. “We have to change the rules.”

AMD seems to have been working on changing the rules since 2006 when it acquired graphics maker ATI for the princely sum of $5.4 billion. It has since leveraged the purchase with the Spider and Dragon platforms which, in hindsight, appear to have been overtures towards the VISION end game.

Is VISION the right move in a high-stakes game historically dominated by your rival? Some analysts think the risk is worth it.

“It’s a big risk but fits where the industry is going in terms of focusing on personalization and figuring out how a computer fits your lifestyle,” says IDC computer analyst Richard Shim.

The advent of VISION may also be critical for AMD if it hopes to battle Intel when it enters the “complete solution” game with a discrete GPU of its own. On track for 2010, Intel’s “Larrabee” project embodies the company’s aspirations to usurp discrete GPU maker NVIDIA, and that bodes ill for ATI which trails in market share by some six to fifty percent (depending on whom you ask).

How it works

vision_logosVISION will initially launch in graduated tiers which provide consumers with three increasingly robust performance targets. The first level, the eponymous VISION, promises a smooth experience with office-oriented tasks like surfing the ‘net and email. VISION Premium kicks the performance up a notch and promises audio/video conversion, 1080p playback and rudimentary gaming. Meanwhile, VISION Ultimate sits the throne and promises podcast creation, intensive gaming and HTPC capabilities.

AMD alleges that these categories are more informative than the misleading “0-60″ numbers benchmarks can provide.

“One of the reasons for this disconnect is that the ‘0-60 mph’ speed metrics are derived through benchmarks like SysMark07,” says Dessau.

“I will leave it to other people to detail why this benchmark is inadequate for most users, but I will point out that the software the benchmark uses has virtually nothing to do with videos, music or helping your manage your photos. Also, it doesn’t run Windows 7.”

AMD also plans to offer a fourth tier, VISION Black, for boutique builders of premium PCs that go beyond the mundane fare offered at BNB establishments.

Going to retail

While the new VISION program won’t truly hit critical mass until the turn of the New Year, Dessau is already allaying fears that itemized specs are not long for this world.

“Just in case you were worrying, VISION Technology from AMD will extend to desktops early next year and your retailers will be able to tell you what parts went into your VISION system (it will be on the fact tags).”

Ultimately, VISION aspires to transcend the “bigger numbers” war that has surrounded the spec sheet for years.

“The truth is that little has changed in the way x86 processors are marketed since AMD introduced 64 bits and multi-core processors. Even then the marketing, while it was new and creative, was another way of saying, ‘faster, better and more.’ It didn’t fundamentally change the way the industry talked about its products.”

But in the end says Dessau, “it is about getting you the right machine for your needs because it’s about making your vision a reality.” Only time will tell if consumers have a VISION they’re ready to let AMD help them realize.

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42 Comments:

  1. AlexDeGruven
    I am Geek. Hear me... type?

    I think this could be good if they do it right. As long as it doesn't turn into something similar to the 'Vista Capable' label debacle, I think it'll be all right.

    It certainly would help me when I'm advising people who don't know/care what raw specs mean. I can say "Well, you should look for a system with either the plain VISION or maybe Premium VISION. That should get you where you want to be."

  2. Buddy J
    Dept. of Propaganda

    Reminds me of the line from the new Mac/PC commercials.

    "When you're ready to compromise, call me."

  3. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    This strategy will not sell me a computer. But it might work for the average consumer that makes majority of the market. What I wonder is the color AMD is going red I guess, what happened to green?

  4. AMD's platform initiatives have always been red. Spider and Dragon both used the black/red livery.

  5. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    Thanks, Thrax! See, I really don't pay attention to platform initiatives.

  6. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    Challenge,

    Go to your local Best Buy, stand around in the computer isle walk up to a few shoppers and just say "hey, do you have any clue what the difference is between Intel and AMD?" Listen to the uninformed and you will immediately know why AMD needed to do something drastic on the marketing side. Heck, I'm not saying this for certain but I give it a better than 50/50 shot that the Best Buy associate won't even have a clue, and that has been killing AMD for years.

    You can't sell PC's based on a raw number anymore, its more nuanced, its more about the balance of the experience and what the consumer expects. Want a glorified word processor with low res web browsing capability, buy an Intel atom based netbook, want a rich multimedia experience in a highly portable package, that's AMD's Congo, Want to game on your portable computer that's AMD Tigris with the ultimate vision stamp, which to you and me means it has a 40nm 48xx mobile graphics solution, but since joe blow consumer only wants to know if it will play the new WOW expansion high res at a solid frame rate, calling it Vision Ultimate and advising that this is the enthusiast gamers choice should be adequate for them to understand what they are being promised by the vendor.

  7. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.

    Is there an ignore function in the forum? Is there going to be one in Vanilla? Pretty pretty please? I don't know how much more rampant fanboyism I can stand.

    This initiative isn't for me - I like to know what's in my computers - but like Mirage said, it might be a Joe Schmo success. There's a reason mob mentality exists.

  8. Butters
    Phat Rat

    I just need Vision Basic, Vision Home, Vision Professional, Vision Enterprise. If the pairing of Vision Basic and Win 7 Ultimate existed, in theory it would be a huge success! Also, if I have an AMD system, could I upgrade to Vision Premium at 1/2 the price if I preorder?

  9. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    My saying AMD's old marketing strategy has been less effective than they would like is not being fanboyish.

    Seriously though, go to your local Best Buy, without saying anything about who you are, what you do or do not know, ask a few regular shoppers in the computer isle if they have a clue about the difference between AMD and Intel? I bet you at least one tells you that AMD isn't compatible with Windows, another tells you that AMD is a cheap knock off brand that normally fails to work after the first few months, another says that AMD is a completely foriegn company while Intel is all made in the USA, another will just shrug and say please god, I was hoping someone would tell me the same thing.

    Be more specific, ask the clerk, hey man, what is better for gaming, Intel or AMD, and without considering the balance of the system spec, I would bet nine out of ten the guy just spits out Intel as common misinformation.

    As a social experiment, try it sometime, its enlightening. Most folks don't know their front side bus from their discrete graphics card, all they perceive is that Intel is quality, and AMD is junk, and it's not fanboyish for me to say that AMD is NOT JUNK!!!

    I do it each and every time I sell build someone a system. I'm speaking from experience, I know what the common consumer mentality is, and what an uphill battle AMD has to fight. This is why the Vision initiative is happening, will it work? I honestly don't know, to be a little fanboy now.... I hope it does, but it will only work when combined with compelling system packages which AMD does have with Dragon, Congo and Tigris.

  10. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.
    Want a glorified word processor with low res web browsing capability, buy an Intel atom based netbook, want a rich multimedia experience in a highly portable package, that's AMD's Congo, Want to game on your portable computer that's AMD Tigris with the ultimate vision stamp

    Fanboy.

  11. primesuspect
    The Icrontic Guy

    You guys are always a bit myopic about who actual computer users are.

    People like us: .

    The rest of the world that buys computers (and makes actual money for AMD and Intel): .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. and so on.

    We're like, the tiniest drop in the bucket for actual sales. Fanboyism matters naught.

    I went with my dad to Microcenter to buy a computer a few weeks ago. This branding thing would have worked for him. Instead, he had to contend with specs vs. what the commissioned (and ignorant) salesguy was telling him. I sat back and watched, as a sort of academic exercise, to see how "real people" buy computers.

    The complete and utter ignorance on both sides was the key factor: My dad was simply trying to communicate what he didn't even know HOW to communicate (I want to be able to put my pictures online and meet people I went to Vietnam with, and check my email) to someone who only knew how to communicate what would benefit him the most financially (We're running a special on these HP desktops, they're really fast with a ton of memory).

    I finally stepped in before my dad bought a machine that he didn't need and made the decision for him.

    The problem is that consumers (and we, my friends, are NOT consumers) DO NOT HAVE ANY CLUE what they are buying. From their perspective, most of these computers will do the same exact thing.

    AMD has the right idea. NOT telling consumers that their X8348 is 23.5ffz with 5.22 clickawiggs and 99.2 Dekabrpz, which can be upgraded to a 3344GGRT-X dualsplit. Instead they'll be saying "Want to chat with family? This one. Want to make videos? this one. Want to play games? this one."

    It's brilliant for them. It's not meant for us.

  12. Leonardo
    F@H Reign of Terror is back!

    Smart. The average consumer cares much more about branding and reputation than specifications. I think AMD is on to something here. Sure the socker mom at Wal Mart or the teenager at BestBuy will pay some attention to the fine print, but the majority of consumers will be associating brand and gadget names to opinions of their friends and advertising they've seen.

    Beyond just marketing, it actually is usually more important for a consumer to know about a platform's reputation and general capabilities than any particular part inside the platform.

  13. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    Come on Snark, was anything I said untrue? ;*)

  14. You people choose to create a comment flood on the most bizarre topics.

  15. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.

    Didn't Intel have something like this with the stars for their processor line already?

  16. Leonardo
    F@H Reign of Terror is back!

    Snark, no, this is a forest-trees marketing initiative. This is not about AMD CPUs, Nvidia GPUs, or Intel anything. This is about platform marketing, building a platform/system brand name that the average consumer can latch onto. The consumer wants to know what the system in the box will do in general terms, a la Prime's dad as so well illustrated in the post above. I would love to be able to advise non-technically oriented friends and family on platforms (and recognizable platform names!) rather than attempt to explain characteristics and performance parameters of individual parts. Most people just don't give a crap about the technical end. They just want to know if it will play their music poorly or well, whether their games will be snappy or laggy. If they do have a technical opinion, it's probably bogus, based off comments from a dumbass friend or a pithy TV commercial.

    Thrax, I honestly don't understand your comment, "bizarre topics." What do you mean?

  17. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.

    I know they're focusing on a platform - I was just pointing out that "graded" parts weren't magically new. It's a similar initiative to Intel's "stars" (just grade performance, don't talk about the actual chip) applied to the whole system, which AMD can afford to do given its in-house graphics and chipset creation abilities.

    Like I said - it's not for me, but it'll probably work out for the Schmos.

  18. Norge
    rawr rawr rawr!

    It seems like they want to go the route of the auto industry. The average person doesn't care about the specific guts in their car so companies give them information on what they care about such as gas mileage, warranties, and luxuries. You're always going to have the gear head who wants to know about horse power, gear ratios, and torque but that is a small subset of the industry.

    It's an interesting approach for the computer industry and it could work. The Intel star system quickly came to mind when I first read this article.

  19. primesuspect
    The Icrontic Guy

    You also have to understand that even grading performance doesn't mean anything to a consumer. Faster? Why does a computer need to be faster? I can check my gmails and get to the google and the "E" works, right?

    The difference on a modern computer between a 1.6ghz dual core and a 2.8ghz quad core is completely meaningless to consumers, unless it directly affects what they want to do. If you tell my dad he needs a "4" star computer to do the webcam thing, but a "2" star computer won't, then that ACTUALLY MEANS something to him, and he'll make an informed decision.

  20. shwaip
    elaborate bot
    Be more specific, ask the clerk, hey man, what is better for gaming, Intel or AMD, and without considering the balance of the system spec, I would bet nine out of ten the guy just spits out Intel as common misinformation.

    Or because it's better.

  21. Leonardo
    F@H Reign of Terror is back!
    applied to the whole system, which AMD can afford to do given its in-house graphics and chipset creation abilities.

    Exactly! AMD can run with this. It's not really about specific performance levels, as those change all the time and can be so usually misrepresented. It's all about getting consumers to associate brands with levels of experience - will it do a good of what I want it to do.

    The advanced gamers, high performance system builders, and those in the niche groups such as Folding@Home and high-end graphics design will still pay attention to detailed specifications, but we aren't that important in the grand scheme of multi-billion dollar computer tech sales.

  22. I think that this motion will be great for AMD's performance. As probably one of the closer members on the forum to the average consumer, I remember my absolute confusion a few years ago when I was trying to order a laptop for school. I had no idea what anything was, the sales people were unhelpful, and my friends knew little either. I ended up spending 1200 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 piece of crap with a 1.3 celeron processor and a half a gig of ram (I KNOW). It was horrible, and it didn't do what I wanted. If, then, someone had just said "Oh hey, look at this vision: school, which will be great for processing documents, browsing the web, and is light so it can be easily portable" it would have made my life SO much better. And I tried to do resesarch- I was just clearly doin it rong.

  23. Thrax, I honestly don't understand your comment, "bizarre topics." What do you mean?

    Branding topics that are irrelevant to almost every user of this forum (specific emphasis) receive a deluge of comments, while talk about a WHOLE NEW GENERATION of video cards and a brand new DirectX specification receives very little response.

  24. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.

    Looks to me like there's a good number of comments on that link, but beyond that - it's more expensive video cards. What's so exciting about that? It's the same pricepoints we've seen before.

    This is newish. And we like to argue and speculate on the common folk.

  25. Zuntar
    Modder extraordinaire

    Prime is right. 99 out of 100 don't have a clue what the specs mean. This is a good idea IMO.

  26. My only concern is that there are many combinations of AMD CPUs/video cards/chipsets that could feasibly qualify for the "Ultimate" tag.

    I guess users can look to the specs for that, and a three-tier system avoids too much stratification, but it leaves a lot of wiggle room.

  27. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    I don't think this kind of branding (Standard, Premium, Ultimate) is very helpful to the average consumer. What does Premium mean? Will it play games or enable editing videos or store a lot of pictures? Will Utimate do all of the above and some more? So does this mean Standard can not do anything other than browsing the Internet and email?

  28. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    ... continuing from above

    Intead of Premium level, if they had given optional software/hardware combination packages for the Standard level like Sound Studio, Video Editing, Gaming Level 1, Gaming Level 2, ... , it would have been more useful, IMHO

  29. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    It is a step in the right direction but given AMD's past of keeping products secret by not having any solid marketing or branding strategies, I don't see this going far. Really, their Idea of marketing seem to be just press releases.

    Another thing I worry about is how are they going to keep the PC resellers in line and ensure manufactures won't raise premiums to ultimate's? How will AMD stop companies from hurting a good cpu and video cards performance by mating them with slow memory and hardrives? AMD has a history of being gentle with OEM's. It really needs to start acting like what it is, the second largest cpu company in the world and start throwing its weight around. AMD just needs to grow up and stop acting like a 35 year old living at it's parents house.

    Look at Hyundai in the mid 90's. It was car you hated. I remember riding a bus to the mall and sneering at them on the way. You couldn't have paid me to trade my bus transfer for one. Hyundai turned itself around by offering the best warranty in the industry, 10 year 100,000. AMD should pull off something like that. Just circumvent the PC oem's warranty and make every seller state on the box 5 year CPU and video card warranty from AMD. Industries best warranty or something like that. Most people over 30 like long warranties. It make a purchase so much more reassuring.

    Lastly, they need some damn commercials. I know they can't compete with intel on every channel but at least go after some target audiences. Something like MTV, spike TV, and life or oxygen. And not just for a week but keep it going. I hate intel but every time I see an Intel inside sticker my subconscious plays that little catchy tune at the end of one of their commercials and I smile. AMD needs to win the hearts of people through marketing.

    Lastly, AMD has owned ATI for 4 years now. Why am I still seeing ATI everywhere? It's like they are keeping the ATI name alive to sell it off one day. AMD's video cards are kicking ass but it's an nonexistent company's name that is getting all the credit. I realize just dropping the ATI name altogether will hurt sales somewhat but if they are able to win the hearts of people with a great ad program, they will gain so much more.

    Get some balls AMD and hire a top notch Ad agency.

  30. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    On more thing... Where the hell are the triple core systems? Last time I was at best buy all I saw were either quad cores or last gen dual cores. The whole point of the tri core was to give core duo a run but they just aren't in retail stores.

  31. GooD
    C# Disciple

    Wow Komete, great post ! Im with you on most point, they NEED to do commercials, there's still a hell lot of people who simply doesnt know what AMD is lol. They may answer its a new car brand and that would not surprise me.

    That show that even when AMD took major market part with the AMD64, they didnt capitalize enough with marketing to let people know they exists and they are the "alternative".

    It's never too late to begin tho, well its too late when the compagny is closing but eh, i hope it wont happen

    Here in Quebec you have VERY cheap AMD PC in store, everything medium & high-end tends to be Intel powered.

    Little off-topic : Last nite i was on anandtech forum and i saw a guy that was hoping AMD would close, that it would be BETTER for the consumer... Still can't believe someone could think that way, and im open minded lol

    AMD must try more of those things to put them on the world track again. Next ATI GPU looks promising, i they can simplify their computer offering with new brand and sticker that's good too, but my real hope is that they will invest and capitalize with marketing on their next winning-situation. At least if they want to grow in the home-CPU domain, and in-store strong presence.

  32. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    Good post Komete, I agree with you. I guess AMD spent all of its ad budget for lobbying and lawyers in the EU and Asia

  33. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    Komete,

    AMD's general strategy is to support their OEM and distributors with marketing material who they hope in turn will promote AMD positively by creating compelling systems that consumers will want. AMD's idea has always been that the system matters to the consumer, the total package and what it will do, and that the design components on the inside don't matter at all as long as the system performs the function they want in an attractive total package, and that is the OEM's domain, not the chip maker.

    The big issue in my mind has always been misinformation at retail. I think there is this common perception that Intel makes superior product at every spec in the spectrum. I bet if you were to ask a non techie what is better, and Intel Celeron or an AMD Phenom II, they would say, well its the Intel one, right? AMD could throw money into TV advertising to combat this, but then Intel would just throw more in and they would never be able to compete with it, what AMD needs to do strategically is make the hardware spec less focused and make the possibilities that the total system creates for them the focus.

    OEM's, and Microsoft all want AMD to succeed on a certain level. They have helped to drive component costs down through competition, they ushered in 64 bit computing, they have eased creating platform systems by supplying the chipset, CPU and graphics all in a singular package.

    AMD can't go toe to toe with Intel using the same strategy, it would be David vs. Goliath without the happy ending. Look, even when AMD had the best Chips on earth with the original Athlon, the Athlon XP and the Athlon 64 it did not matter because Intel had the muscle to bully the OEM's, to advertise falsehoods, and shape the game to their advantage.

    What AMD needs to do is change the rules on how the game is played. They need to make people want an HP DV2 for its sleek portable design and HD video processing capability rather than make people desire a product because its AMD or Intel specific.

    I have also suggested to them that they could use a slightly better presence at retail to educate the sales staff on the benefits of AMD platforms. I think they could win man battles there if the sales staff had a better understanding of what AMD platform computing solutions are and why they are desirable to OEM's and consumers.

  34. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    Cliff,

    OEM’s are in the game to make a profit. That’s why 8 out of 10 AMD system you see in the wild often use the cheapest and most under performing parts to bundle with AMD systems. AMD has been and still is a way for OEM’s to make a nice profit with little investment. And I’m sorry, AMD hasn’t done squat to insure John Q Public can buy a great performing platform in retail stores. Create the demand for the product and OEM’s will beg to sell it any way you want it.

    Since I’ve been using AMD, around 10 years or so, AMD has supported the enthusiasts with open arms, even if they were not vocal about it at times. Why? Probably because it is the cheapest form of marketing, word of mouth. But I ask myself, has it really helped them? The answer is no, because taking the word of a pimple headed nephew over all the pc’s you see at work with the shiny intel inside stickers on them is hard to do. Advertising works. It’s proven to work. Mega billions upon billions if not a trillions go into advertising every year. There is only one catch to advertising. Once you start you can’t stop.

    It would be a waste of money for AMD to try and run around training retailers on how to sell their OEM’s products. Why? Because the turnaround in retail is insane. They would literally have to revisit stores once a month. At the store level it isn’t AMD that should be pushing for training, it’s the OEM’s. AMD has already made its sale. Now it’s the OEM’s challenge to sell the product. That’s why HP does commercials. But if you are an OEM and you have $2 million of intel product you may have to take back or $400,000 of AMD, which one will you push to be sold? I don’t know about you but I’m going to push to sell the 2 million with catchy Intel commercials that actually helps sell the product with cute slogans and shiny stickers. It’s the sure thing.

    This idea that AMD can’t go toe to toe with Intel is silly. Did it stop Apple from going against IBM? Did it stop MS from going against Apple? Did it stop Google from going against Yahoo? The list goes on and on. There is only one thing stopping AMD, it’s AMD and their ridiculous grass roots marketing schemes.

    In conclusion, AMD has a history of fumbling every opportunity that has come their way. They are sitting on a marketing goldmine. They have a trifecta going on and the best they come up with is 3 red stickers that has all the excitement of choosing between different grades of motor oil.

  35. Leonardo
    F@H Reign of Terror is back!

    Ah, I was hoping you'd keep going, Komete. That was fun reading.

  36. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    Leonardo I could go on and on about AMD but I am loyal and happy consumer of their products. Just wish they would grow up, get some direction, and grow a pair already.

  37. Cliff_Forster
    Keepin it real

    Has Google ever aired a traditional TV advertisment? Not to my knowledge, I know Yahoo has, Microsoft is doing it with bing now.

    Google got where they are because they made a compelling product and Leo Laporte, Patrick Norton and Chris Parillo would not shut up about it on the old tech TV (RIP).

    So your Google vs. Yahoo analogy does not fit your analogy that grass roots marketing does not work. If there has ever been a grass roots word of mouth success bigger than Google, I don't know what it is.

    Don't get me wrong, I would love to see AMD do some compelling TV advertising, but once again, its David and Goliath. AMD could air an add where Intel could air five more. What AMD might want to get behind is something on a specific product that is innovative, perhaps the DV2 is the best current example of this. A blitz of adds for HD capable ultra portables, a multimedia powerhouse in a package that weighs about 3 pounds, now that says something more than AMD, or Intel inside, it says, look at this sexy product, thats what Apple does with its marketing most of the time.

    Thing about Apple, they spend a boat load on TV adds, but is the mac share of users going up in leaps and bounds? Not really, instead of 7.5% of the market, they now enjoy close to a 9% share. Apple's core revenue is from Ipod, Iphone and Itunes, which are also heavily advertised, the difference, those adds are not selling Apple, they are selling a product that many people find compelling, that's how you market technology.

    Intel's adds, sure, they are there, the USB rockstar add recently, the Blue Man Group years ago, but has it garnered them any significant shift in share or perception that they did not have dating back to the first Pentium chips? Intel is just kind of one of these companies that people know about, like Coca Cola, like McDonalds, its part of the culture, people know who they are even if they don't know much about microprocessors, they understand that Intel has been selling the most of them for a very long time and while the ad and the silly tone at the end may help to keep that in their psyche, I'm not sure you could offer any hard evidence that it has impacted their share vs. what they would have had by getting the jump on the market with the Pentium.

    I'm about to shock a couple people here.

    Intel is at where they are at because of having the best product at an exceptionally good time to have it. At the dawn of the Internet era in the mid to late 90's nobody had better chips that Intel. AMD started to produce good product a couple years later with the slot Athlon's, but many people had already purchased their first desktop machine, and most of them were already indoctrinated Intel users, they identified with the brand and never gave it another thought. AMD put alot of money into advertising with the Slot Athlon's, they had giant retail headers, full feature's in PC magazine, I recall some radio adds talking about Athlon, but then Intel decided to use its clout with the OEM's to slow AMD down and the rest is history.

    AMD could run some TV adds, but if all they are saying is hey, we are AMD the only company with total system platform solutions, nobody is going to notice, but if you show off a compelling product that AMD powers, that might be something entirely different.

  38. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    I'm sorry man, Intel even has cooler Indians on the pay roll.

    Oh and some classic AMD training.

  39. Snarkasm
    The Photographer.
    What AMD might want to get behind is something on a specific product that is innovative, perhaps the DV2 is the best current example of this. A blitz of adds for HD capable ultra portables, a multimedia powerhouse in a package that weighs about 3 pounds, now that says something more than AMD, or Intel inside, it says, look at this sexy product

    ... and that will result in nice sales of the DV2 - and almost nobody will associate it with AMD, and if they do, it probably won't make them want to buy AMD next time around either.

  40. mirage
    Veteran Icrontian

    Intel's rockstar ad is an instant classic that I will always remember. On the other hand AMD's cricket player is just "cheesy". I have never seen it before. Thanks, Komete.

    I was reading the previous posts and let me add my 2c too.

    Average consumer is not stupid. Everyone lives their brightest moments when it is about their interests. They may seem ignorant or unaware but they actually make their research on the Internet. They do care about the slightest performance advantage and read the reviews everywhere they can find. And there are many (right or wrong) reviews available on the internet. That is why AMD had a growing market share when Athlon 64 was better than Pentium 4. And that is also why AMD's marketshare dropped with Intel's release of Core architecture. Today, AMD is struggling because "good enough" is not good enough. There is no problem of perception. As simple as that, at least to me.

  41. chrisWhite
    Polygons

    I think this sounds great, sure, we're all going to look at the benchmarks and the specs, but when my mom's best friend asks what to get I can tell them to make sure it has an AMD Vision sticker on it. Okay, maybe an oversimplification (especially since they probably wouldn't be buying an individual graphic card) but simplifying the system for the every day guy sounds great.

  42. chrisWhite
    Polygons

    PS @Cliff, if I'm an Apple fanboy you are certainly an AMD one ;-)

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