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vBulletin’s blog system

Icrontic uses vBulletin’s Blog product for its member blogs (well, for now it does). Since the editing staff is off to CES, I thought I’d sneak in with a short story about my experience with it.

I’m poking around in vBulletin because I want to change what it looks like. It’s damned hideous by default: a blue stripe down the left of posts? Usernames in each post twice? Are you kidding me, Jelsoft?  They crammed their avatar into the post like it’s relevant to the content and then put a dotted border around them like some kind of retarded Victorian portrait. The vBulletin team has done all this and more for your viewing pleasure.

Ultimate power... if you can find the button.

I open up the list of blog templates in the admin control panel, and there are around 50 templates in there. Again, the entire Wordpress system has about 15. That’s total. For Wordpress, not some lackluster forum plugin.

Alright, so I want to change what posts look like. I go off searching through the list of insipidly-named templates. Hmm, maybe it’s blog_home_list_blog. Of course, I have no way of identifying it when I open it – it’s all tables and poorly-named variables. Nope, that doesn’t look like it. Maybe blog_show_entry? blog_entry_external? No no wait, maybe blog_blog_row, that could be it. Or blog_list_blogs_all. Or blog_list_blogs_best. Or blog_list_blogs_blog. That sounds like a winner! Hell, I know, how about I spend my night clicking through all 50 templates? That’d be fun.

I actually think vBulletin developers sit around and snicker about the black morass they’ve trapped all their developers in, partying like its 1999 in their nested tables. No one even KNOWS about half the options in the blogs because they’re so walled off behind layer after layer of crap. I need a doctorate in vBulletin to explain to our members how to get anything done in this morass, let alone try to constructively do anything with it myself.

Patience please, members of Icrontic. The blogs are a great idea. I just have to write an import script to migrate us to Wordpress MU now.

vBulletin: ultimate power and control… if only you can find the #$&%ing button.

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9 Comments:

  1. jared
    Howdy Damnit

    vBulletin is a giant cluster****. They just don't care because at the moment they virtually have a monopoly in the forum software niche (let's face it, phpbb and others are cool - but they just don't get the job done).

    I'm glad you run the forum and not me, that's all I have to say

  2. Kwitko
    Sheriff of Dicktown

    It seems more and more that for-pay software suffers from increased bloat with every release. Also, many companies seem to rest on the strength of their name and don't fear competition. After all, who's going to topple vB? Certainly not some silly, bloat-free, open-source, cost-free, well-documented software, mirite?

    "Wut? We lost all our market share to a free program? Redouble our efforts! Add more obscure table names and increase the price!"

  3. MiracleManS
    Mediocrity Gets You Pears

    I've played in vBulletin once...and I hated every second of it. That was just a default install.

  4. Sledgehammer70
    Sledgehammer70

    I ran into the same issue trying to learn how to use the software. 90% of it I never touched or used at is was another 2 weeks of learning and breaking things.

    Overall I have yet to find a better system that works and offers as many options and stays updated.

  5. Winfrey
    kaishakunin
    Since the editing staff is off to CES, I thought I’d sneak in with a short story about my experience with it.

    I see what you did there

    Fight the good fight Matt, just don't forget to blow off some steam on TF2 or L4D.

  6. Komete
    DIY Haxx0r

    Woohoo.. Sounds like you will be making some good changes. Icrontic is just getting better and better!

  7. DrLiam
    FoxtoN

    I just want to illiterate that your doing a great job and your constant work to improve the site is appreciated!

    Also, I'm a semi-aspiring website developer myself so articles like these are always informational and interesting to read.

    Thanks.

  8. grte
    Guest

    great job

  9. c0d3r
    Guest

    This might be a better way for the future... I use this technique to quickly find and modify things in scripts. 1) View Source on page 2) Determine CSS class name of div/row/cell 3) Search all text files. Don't forget to document your changes!

Hey, be nice. Icrontic is full of good people, we promise.

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