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Dickbots VII - Wrath of Khanbots [ongoing]

GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln NightmaresIllinois Icrontian
edited Dec 2016 in Civilization

You know who else couldn't beat Japan? The Mongols. Now it's us and them in the loser's bracket, and they mad.

  • 6 human players
  • 6 AI, all Mongols
  • Immortal AI
  • One City Challenge
  • Map TBD (Great Plains?), Tiny Map Size
  • Medieval start
  • All DLC
  • No Religion
  • Normal city states
  • Regular Barbarians
  • Domination or Science Victory

Who's in?
Any thoughts on the game rules?

Ins:
@Gargoyle
@CB
@Tushon
@GHoosdum
@Snarkasm ?
@CrazyJoe

Paging:
@PirateNinja
@Basil

GHoosdumBasil
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Comments

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    edited Dec 2015

    I'm in!, I think a plains map would make an interesting tactical challenge. Is there an option to make teams group together without an island map, like east v. west on the grasslands? I've never tried any of the maps of that style, and I'm not certain how they work.

    (Why isn't this thread showing up on the main discussions page?)

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    @CB said:
    I'm in!, I think a plains map would make an interesting tactical challenge. Is there an option to make teams group together without an island map, like east v. west on the grasslands? I've never tried any of the maps of that style, and I'm not certain how they work.

    If nothing else, we can set up a custom map and make sure it's that way. But I'm up for any options that are less work if anyone has ideas.

    (Why isn't this thread showing up on the main discussions page?)

    Because I'm a dumb and clicked the announce option originally. Fixed.

  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    I would like to try again. I think I'll try to run a loose strategy by someone this time to make sure I'm making sane decisions.

  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian

    What are the required pieces/DLCs, etc.? I would be interested, but won't steal a normal person's spot.

  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited Dec 2015

    IN!!!!

    Can we win on Immortal though? Once they spam out cities, we die pretty quickly.

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian
    edited Dec 2015

    @Snarkasm said:
    What are the required pieces/DLCs, etc.? I would be interested, but won't steal a normal person's spot.

    I think all we'd need are Brave New World and the Mongol DLC.

    @GHoosdum said:
    IN!!!!

    Can we win on Immortal though? Once they spam out cities, we die pretty quickly.

    We must win to restore our honor. But there are some variations to other rules we can try. One thing that did help us last time was a small map to constrain their growth.

    Another variation: Marco Polo vs. the Dickbot Horde. If we were all Venice, we could turn off one city challenge to allow us to buy city-states. One of the Mongol's advantages is a bonus vs. city states, so our interest in preserving them would actually be a nice counter-point.

  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian

    I'm in.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian

    If we start before get to Germany, Joe will be taking my first couple turns. :)

    GHoosdum
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    Whoa, let this one slip for awhile.

    @CB said:
    Is there an option to make teams group together without an island map, like east v. west on the grasslands? I've never tried any of the maps of that style, and I'm not certain how they work.

    I've done some testing, and apparently the only way to do this on Great Plains is to edit the map in world builder and manually place starting locations. I'll do that if that's the map we prefer. I'm not as crazy about the terrain after I loaded it up, though. The hills/jungle/swamp bit in the east is kind of lame. Below are screencaps of Great Plains and three alternatives. Which do people like? Note that these are all much bigger than the size we will play on.

    Great Plains Plus

    West vs. East

    North vs. South

    Hemispheres

    @Gargoyle said:
    Another variation: Marco Polo vs. the Dickbot Horde. If we were all Venice, we could turn off one city challenge to allow us to buy city-states. One of the Mongol's advantages is a bonus vs. city states, so our interest in preserving them would actually be a nice counter-point.

    What do people think about this option?

    Rock the Vote

    Please reply and rank the maps in order of your preference. 1 is most preferred.

    Great Plains: 1-4
    West vs. East: 1-4
    North vs. South: 1-4
    Hemispheres: 1-4

    Venice vs. Mongols: Y/N
    (N means one city challenge & choose your own Civ, Y means we play as Venice and can buy city states)

    CB
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    Forgot to page people:

    @CB
    @Tushon
    @GHoosdum
    @Snarkasm
    @CrazyJoe

    Ryder
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    north v south
    west v east
    great plains
    hemispheres
    N

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian

    north v south
    west v east
    great plains
    hemispheres
    Y

  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    north v south
    west v east
    hemispheres
    great plains
    Y

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    I guess I should start this, huh?

    We'll go with:

    • North vs. South
    • Venice vs. Mongols
    • No one city challenge beyond the Venice rules. Buy your way to victory against the dickbots!
    • Immortal, 6v6, rules from top post, yada yada yada.

    I'll see if I can't get the game set up correctly and invites sent.

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian
    CBGHoosdum
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    In, thanks!

    Gargoyle
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian

    I think I got in.

    GargoyleGHoosdum
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    Paging @CrazyJoe to accept or reject invite

    @Tushon plz choose Venetian master race

    image

  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian

    @CB said:
    If we start before get to Germany, Joe will be taking my first couple turns. :)

    lulz

    SnarkasmGargoyle
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    Hey it's only been since... okay it was March when I proposed this.

    Hopefully I get around to building my city walls before the Mongolians come.

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    I'm guessing it wouldn't hurt to start the game and assign Tushon to Venice, right?

    Haven't run a GMR game before and didn't want to mess it up.

  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian

    Tushon is at camp, not sure of schedule.

    Gargoyle
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    I tried to get on the internet enough to login and choose game. It was bad. reallllllly bad.

    Gargoyle
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    Thanks for the effort, @Tushon! GMR's website is bad enough even on a good connection.

    I'll start this game tonight.

    It looks like perma-war needs to be done with a save editor or a custom map, right?

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian

    You can just choose it in the game settings, right? or did I add that mod so long ago, I forgot it was a mod?

  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    How have you folks started Dickbots games with the options we've had?

    • Game settings have no option for perma-war when starting hot seat game.
    • Game settings have no option for no religion when starting hot seat game.
    • Number of Civs is locked to map size. How do I make a small sized map with 12 players?
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja I don't know how to not Icrontian

    In case you need to modify a game save file to force perma war (I'm not sure that you do) I looked up the instructions from the last time we had to do something weird:

    In Steam/library/tools I installed the Civ 5 SDK
    then in
    blablabla\Documents\my games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5\config.ini
    I set EnableTuner = 1 (have since put it back at 0)

    Then I loaded up the civ 5 sdk and used a tool called FireTuner
    Next I loaded up our game save, and FireTuner from there hooks in to Civ's current live game. You are given access to this thing called the LUA > console which lets you control every single aspect of the game

    Gargoyle
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    Thanks @PirateNinja, that sounds like it should work for the perma-war and no religion.

    I think @Basil set up the last Dickbots game. How did you get so many Civs on a tiny size map? Did you have to make a custom map?

  • BasilBasil Nubcaek England Icrontian

    @Gargoyle said:
    I think @Basil set up the last Dickbots game. How did you get so many Civs on a tiny size map? Did you have to make a custom map?

    Modify the relevant XML file.

    Gargoyle
  • GargoyleGargoyle Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Illinois Icrontian

    Awesome. So if I make changes to the main (non mods) XML, then start game, I should be able to revert the changes afterwards without breaking the game, right?

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