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Mildly Interesting Fact

KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired)By the thing near the stuff Icrontian

When I started folding in 2004, it took me roughly 8 years to amass 1.5 million points. Since I started folding again in June 2016, I've amassed nearly half a million points in 5 weeks.

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  • SonorousSonorous F@H Fanatic Virginia Icrontian

    If I could ever remember to un-pause the client on my main rig, 1.5 million would take me just over 3 days. No more WUs for 100-150 points a pop these days.

  • drasnordrasnor Hawthorne, CA Icrontian

    GHoosdumSonorousfatcat
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    Is that really an accurate explanation? The point values are against specific hardware and much CPU/GPU architecture has gotten way better than that, so I would expect to get a lot more points now that I did back in 2004.

    https://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-points/#ntoc3
    among other entries on that page, specifically
    https://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-points/#ntoc9

  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian

    old people said:
    Don't care, snap your chats off my lawn grumble government grumble.

  • drasnordrasnor Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    @Tushon said:
    Is that really an accurate explanation? The point values are against specific hardware and much CPU/GPU architecture has gotten way better than that, so I would expect to get a lot more points now that I did back in 2004.

    https://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-points/#ntoc3
    among other entries on that page, specifically
    https://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-points/#ntoc9

    In other words, if your computer has a massively parallel stream processor sweet graphics card in it then you are going to smoke the reference machine.

  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    Correct. My problem was with the use of inflation as the analogy :tongue:

    _k
  • SonorousSonorous F@H Fanatic Virginia Icrontian

    @Tushon said:
    Correct. My problem was with the use of inflation as the analogy :tongue:

    I read it as a good joke and a mild political jab.

    _k
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    @Tushon They do inflate point totals over time faster than hardware gains. When I started, they were still issuing fractional points. My understanding is that in the beginning they were doing < 1 point WUs.

  • LincLinc Bard Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    muddocktor, June 2003
    Some of my machines have been getting some new(to me at least) Gromacs WU's and they are the p354, p355 and p356 series and they are worth 29.4 points. The best thing about them is they fold extremely fast, with my XP running at 2250 able to average around 3.8 points/hr with them and my MSI dually has a p355 and is averaging around 2.9 points/hr at 1750 MHz.

    Note this was several years into Team 93. Our earliest conversations are obviously long lost.

  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian

    Interesting. Thanks! Maybe people needed their numbers to go up faster to stay involved.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    If there was no inflation of points/WU, then it would be really hard for anyone just starting into it to feel like they were accomplishing anything, and the teams with the lowest numbers wouldn't have to do much to stay ahead. Inflating the points is part of the gamification of the project.

    Linc
  • LincLinc Bard Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    @CB said:
    If there was no inflation of points/WU, then it would be really hard for anyone just starting into it to feel like they were accomplishing anything, and the teams with the lowest numbers wouldn't have to do much to stay ahead. Inflating the points is part of the gamification of the project.

    This precisely.

    Back in 2004, hitting 100K was approximately like hitting 100M now. We created a virtual plaque for everyone who'd made it: http://icrontic.com/uploads/5/8015.attach

    We also had separate virtual awards for reaching 1,000 and 5,000 points - usually months apart. :)

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited Jul 2016

    The drawback is that it's a little disheartening to old guys who are coming back. After folding for years to collect astronomical scores, then to come back after a long absence and people just starting out pass you by in a few days...

    If it was only a game, and not helping people and junk, it would be bunk. :-D

    GHoosdum
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian

    Vote Ron Paul. Return F@H points to the gold standard.

  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited Aug 2016

    @CB said:
    The drawback is that it's a little disheartening to old guys who are coming back. After folding for years to collect astronomical scores, then to come back after a long absence and people just starting out pass you by in a few days...

    If it was only a game, and not helping people and junk, it would be bunk. :-D

    I agree completely, it's sad to see newcomers blow away the points it took me years to build within their first few weeks of folding. Although if it took newbies as long to amass their first ten thousand points as it took us, it would be a disincentive to start folding.

    Getting lots of points quickly still requires a pretty hefty hardware spec. My current i5 and GPU combo would only get me like 100 points a year or something like that.

  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian

    I don't mind. I only care about my personal goals. In the end it's all about moving science forward.

    CBdrasnor
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian

    Real Talk. It don't bother me none, neither. It's interesting to observe the mechanics of gamification, though.

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