DELL P1110 monitor too bright

Ivan

karl-wagner

With Windas and a home-made cable my P991 monitor looks like new again. I couldn't have done it without the help of all the great people on this forum. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Ross

Hi There i got Windas working fine a few times but moved the program folder to another computer and now when i run it it says there are no mdl files so i cant load up my monitor model settings. I ran the astro sg installer but still no success, i know someone else had this problem eirlier in the thread but i cant find it!

Please someone help!

Thanks.

Ross:p

joe3563

Ross said:

Hi There i got Windas working fine a few times but moved the program folder to another computer and now when i run it it says there are no mdl files so i cant load up my monitor model settings. I ran the astro sg installer but still no success, i know someone else had this problem eirlier in the thread but i cant find it!

Please someone help!

Thanks.

Ross:p

You need to install that activeX object on the new system.

Ross

ok i will try that now ! thanks mate that was the fastest response ever on this thread

Ross

Hi again Joe, Thanks again for your help>

Ross

Ross

Ok, got it working again, Stupid me! when you said active x i remembered about five minutes later what i did the first time. Edit the the extracted activex.bat file
to read

copy msflxgrd.ocx %systemroot%\system32
regsvr32 %systemroot%\system32\msflxgrd.ocx

save and then run.(for the readers who had the same problem)

Thanks again Joe3563!:cheers:

canam

Hello,
I have a Dell p1110 21" monitor, made in 2000. I am experiencing the same conditions that have been written about in this post too. I have ordered the cable for linking the monitor to my computer and will download windas. My question is: i have taken a small 1" by 1/2" cover plate off the back area of the monitor and exposed a 4 pin male connector. Is this the pin connection that i need to use and if so, can someone tell me what the pins ID's are(tx,rx,+5,gnd) from top to bottom. Thanks in advance;)

:canflag:

sintz

canam said:

Hello,
I have a Dell p1110 21" monitor, made in 2000. I am experiencing the same conditions that have been written about in this post too. I have ordered the cable for linking the monitor to my computer and will download windas. My question is: i have taken a small 1" by 1/2" cover plate off the back area of the monitor and exposed a 4 pin male connector. Is this the pin connection that i need to use and if so, can someone tell me what the pins ID's are(tx,rx,+5,gnd) from top to bottom. Thanks in advance;)

:canflag:

Yes, that is the correct port.

Top to bottom as you face the back of the monitor.

GND
VCC (+5)
TXD
RXD .

canam

Sintz, thanks for the info. Just recieved my cable in mail will post how i make out thanks again,
canam

canam

I just finished with using windas and reprogramming my dell p1110. This forum was a god send. was about to throw out this great monitor, now i am looking at a new screen with great color and the proper brightness. Thanks to all that have helped with this thread.
I have one last question. Is thier anymore setting that i should look at in windas that can be changed that would be beneficial. Another how to guide would be great , if anyone knows of one.I do alot of gaming with this monitor, especially world of warcraft.

Thanks so much,
Jay
:usflag:

deiphage

I've got a P1110, and guess what? It's too bright. I followed the instructions to install WinDAS, and built a mighty fine cable using a max232 on a breadboard... schematic below:



I'm pretty certain that the cable is right, and the software seems to be installed correctly... but my problem is that every time I try to do anything with WinDAS, it crashes. I get a box that pops up and says "WinDAS MFC application has encountered a problem and needs to close. The text file of the error is here:

http://www.slowphoton.com/error.txt

Any suggestions? I've tried the WinDAS program on two different XPSP2 machines, and I'm getting ready to give it a shot on a 98 box. I also have the DOS version, but not the key for it? Any hints?

Thanks

joe3563

I believe that if you follow the instructions on this link which has been posted a dozen times already in this thread, everything will work fine.

http://www.geocities.com/gregua/windas/

deiphage

joe3563 said:

I believe that if you follow the instructions on this link which has been posted a dozen times already in this thread, everything will work fine.

http://www.geocities.com/gregua/windas/

Gosh, how could I have been so foolish... oh, wait, I did follow the instructions... there seems to be another problem. Thanks for the "help" joe.

Ross

deiphage said:

Gosh, how could I have been so foolish... oh, wait, I did follow the instructions... there seems to be another problem. Thanks for the "help" joe.

Hi deiphage, I have sp1 and it works ok on that. Did you try your 98 machine yet? On your sp2 machine you could run the file under 98 settings by right clicking on the Windas.exe file going to the compatability tab and selecting which ever mode you want. Also try to shutdown all other programs as one might conflict.

Hope that helps, if not give me more info(computer spec/installed programs) and i will see what i can do.

Ross

Ross

canam said:

I just finished with using windas and reprogramming my dell p1110. This forum was a god send. was about to throw out this great monitor, now i am looking at a new screen with great color and the proper brightness. Thanks to all that have helped with this thread.
I have one last question. Is thier anymore setting that i should look at in windas that can be changed that would be beneficial. Another how to guide would be great , if anyone knows of one.I do alot of gaming with this monitor, especially world of warcraft.

Thanks so much,
Jay
:usflag:

Hi there Jay,

If you go to the adjustment menu and click on procedure you can change the white balence/convergence etc. If you need to sort the Focus out you need to open your case (stay away from the HT cable attached to the top of the CRT)
remove the top mesh and at the right hand side(if the face of the monitor is facing away from you) you should see a black object with 2 adjustment screws on the top(it should say focus in small letters between the two controls)You use these to crispen up the images.

I recommend you use the nokia monitor test to benchmark your settings and remmember to save settings regularly.

Here is the link to download:

http://www.construnet.hu/nokia/Monitors/TEST/monitor_test.html

There is also a NEC test knocking around on the net which is just as good.

Hope that helped and be careful not to touch anything other than the 2 controls,preferably use a electritions screwdriver with a insulated grip.

Good luck!

Ross

joe3563

deiphage said:

Gosh, how could I have been so foolish... oh, wait, I did follow the instructions... there seems to be another problem. Thanks for the "help" joe.

Sorry man. It works. I don't know what to tell you. It works for me and it seems to be working for everyone else as well. The fact that it does not work on more than one of your systems is a sure sign that you are doing something wrong. I am simply trying to suggest that you re-read the post and see what you might have missed.

deiphage

Ross said:

Hi deiphage, I have sp1 and it works ok on that. Did you try your 98 machine yet? On your sp2 machine you could run the file under 98 settings by right clicking on the Windas.exe file going to the compatability tab and selecting which ever mode you want. Also try to shutdown all other programs as one might conflict.

Hope that helps, if not give me more info(computer spec/installed programs) and i will see what i can do.

Ross

I've been working on the 98 machine - Microsoft foundation class errors abound. The XPSP2 errors were MFC related as well... copying the creative labs version of MFC42.dll fixed my software poblems. WinDAS works now!!!

Of course I've only succeeded in shifting the problem to the cable. I get the infamous "check bus line and condition" message. I've tried swapping TX/RX, and I've switched from T2/R2 to T1/R1 - to no avail. Continuity is good on all of my lines, but the wires might be a little long. 6' of 9pin to 25pin, 7' of cat 5, the circuit, and then 8' of cat 5 to the monitor. I'm using 1µF caps (I also tried 0.1µF).

The "cable"

Ross

[/QUOTE]Your config.

Hi again diephage:)

stick with your original design and make sure the pins are configured as follows

if the view was from behind monitor= (colours according to your earlier post)

top pin starts with
gnd(green)
vcc+5(yellow/orange)
rx(blue)
tx(brown)

You are using a db9 header to connect to the computers com1 port? looks like a db25!
If you still have problems i will show u my cable that works;)

Ps glad you got windas working! once you get your monitor configured the sense of accomplishment is wonderful!!!!:tongue:

deiphage

Ross said:

Your config.

Hi again diephage:)

stick with your original design and make sure the pins are configured as follows

if the view was from behind monitor= (colours according to your earlier post)

top pin starts with
gnd(green)
vcc+5(yellow/orange)
rx(blue)
tx(brown)

You are using a db9 header to connect to the computers com1 port? looks like a db25!
If you still have problems i will show u my cable that works;)

Ps glad you got windas working! once you get your monitor configured the sense of accomplishment is wonderful!!!!:tongue:[/QUOTE]


:respect: Ahhh...:celebrate The pattern is {Ground, VCC, RX, TX} Makes all the difference when you listen to the speakers and talk into the microphone... I thought that I swapped it when I was testing... oh well. It works now.

Yep, I've got a db9/db25 cable. Since its my only serial cable left, I didn't want to cut it up - hence the db25 connection in the photo - I bought a female end and a housing for her - that's her naked back end in the pic.


You're not kidding about the feeling of accomplishment... now I can royally screw up the monitor from the software side... awesome!

Ross

Glad you got it working!!!! Hope i helped. If you need any more tips then just SHOUT!

If your convergence is not sorted by using windas there are other ways to adjust this inside the monitor.

Ross

allenpan

can someone help me? i have the same isue on my dell 991, i don;t know where the resister is and so i can get it fix, i don;t think i wanna go with the cable route...thx

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=380496#post380496

kajetan

Hello there!

I am user of Sony CPD E530 monitor. A happy user since a few hours, thanks to all of you!

Black on my monitor was not black, it was quite bright blue. Reducing "G2" in WinDAS software did the trick for my black color, but still I have too blue picture in white areas. Well, I'm still working on it, hope to get a colorimeter in my hands and calibrate the monitor. Wish me luck ;)

joe3563

allenpan said:

can someone help me? i have the same isue on my dell 991, i don;t know where the resister is and so i can get it fix, i don;t think i wanna go with the cable route...thx

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=380496#post380496

According to this post:
http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=periphs&Number=643308&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1

You need to be looking at R050 (1M Ohm). Using another 1M Ohm resister in parallel seems to be the trick.

--andy11--

Just wondering if anyone found some kind of adjustment in WinDAS to control the brightness compensation during warmup. I just got a refurb for cheap but something's not right. The picture is completely washed out for a while after I turn it on, but looks great (at brightness 30) once it warms up for 20-30 mins. I'm thinking about building my own cable, but didn't want to spend the time/money unless I knew for sure there was a way to fix my problem through DAS.

BTW this thread ROCKS!

karl-wagner

allenpan said:

can someone help me? i have the same isue on my dell 991, i don;t know where the resister is and so i can get it fix, i don;t think i wanna go with the cable route...thx

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=380496#post380496

I changed R048 (2.2M, 2W) to about 12M to lower the G2 voltage on my P991. This resistor is located at the upper right of the A board (viewed from the rear of the chassis) and is easily accessible. Most everything else on this board is covered by a metal shield which makes resistor changes somewhat messy.

Changing the resistor fixed all my problems (background tint, retrace lines, excess brightness) but the drastic change in the resitor value just didn't feel right. I eventually ended up going back to the 2.2M value and used Das and a home-made cable to take care of my problems.