Looking Into OCZ Ram for a new pc

djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
edited August 2005 in Hardware
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103543 $515

Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127206 $215

Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130234 $599

Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102178 $71

Sound Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144160 $166

Hard Drive

I was running through the specs for my new pc, and I was curious which ram you guys would suggest for the best gaming performance possible.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    First I want to ask what power supply you plan to use??? In almost all the new systems a low quality PSU has been to blame for many frustrations and systems that would either not post or not be stable. I am not sure of some of your choices on other hardware but will see what Mack has to say in his opinion.

    As far as the best memory for a new high powered A64 system I think he will chime right in with my suggestion of OCZ EL DDR PC-4800 Platinum Elite Edition but do not confuse it with the regular EL 4800 Platinum. The key word is "Elite Edition".

    Here it is at X-bit labs.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    Almost had me wondering there Larry. Thats just a news item. At first I thought I missed an actual review of how well it overclocks.

    Yeah, that might be a good set, its new so I'm not sure but it should be good. Some Plat Rev 2.0 if you can get TCCD chips or some OCZ VX series.

    If you get the VX, it is much better matched with the DFI board. THe Abit has had problems overclocking. Its not very good at all.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    mmonnin wrote:
    Almost had me wondering there Larry. Thats just a news item. At first I thought I missed an actual review of how well it overclocks.

    Yeah, that might be a good set, its new so I'm not sure but it should be good. Some Plat Rev 2.0 if you can get TCCD chips or some OCZ VX series.

    If you get the VX, it is much better matched with the DFI board. THe Abit has had problems overclocking. Its not very good at all.

    Thanks Marc, I fixed it. ;)

    Actually it is just the next logical step in the progerssion of speed. I see G. Skill makes their version of the same thing, which would be very close. Same Samsung TCCD, just a new released speed which means it is binned to the highest level. I thought VX would be the end all for the DFI boards but it is very voltage hungry like BH-5 and as such needs good cooling.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    Yes I was looking into the Platinum r2, as I saw some reviews and benchmarks on anandtech.com

    I planned on getting the ocz powerstream 600w psu, upgrading from my current 500w ultra x-connect.

    Memory

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104153 $199

    That is what I had in mind....

    Now I'm curious...

    Is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227208

    compatible with the motherboard shown?
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    djstubbs wrote:
    Yes I was looking into the Platinum r2, as I saw some reviews and benchmarks on anandtech.com

    I planned on getting the ocz powerstream 600w psu, upgrading from my current 500w ultra x-connect.

    Memory

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104153 $199

    That is what I had in mind....

    Now I'm curious...

    Is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227208

    compatible with the motherboard shown?

    Yes!

    It will get you better OC's than the 3200 Platinum. But the best would be the Limited Edition I linked to above as it uses Samsung TCCD modules instead of the TCC5 the regular Platinum uses.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    I did some testing today and I was able to run thru Memtest86+ in the DFi BIOS at 324 FSB with some relaxed timings. I have the OCZ Plat Rev 2.0 sticks with TCCD chips.

    I havent tried it in windows tho.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    Where can I buy the elite edition?

    Also thanks for the help guys. :thumbsup:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    I couldnt find any.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    So aside from the Elite edition, you guys would reccomend the regular 4800 platinum.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    I did find the G. Skill version here.

    I am running the G.SKILL 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 550 (PC 4400) Samsung TCCD "LE". I can get it up to 305 on my DFI LP NF4 Ultra-D with a bit of fiddeling. It will go to 290 very easily!
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Where's Mack? I thought he would have popped in here by now. :scratch:
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Mack's on his honeymoon ;)

    Be sure to congratulate him, he'll be back soon :p
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    So what's the final word??

    And also I most likely won't be overclocking, and here are my revised system specs:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529 $473

    Processor - AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152 $135

    Motherboard - DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130234 $599

    Video Card - eVGA 256-P2-N528-AX Geforce 7800GTX 256MB

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102178 $71

    Sound Card - CREATIVE Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144160 $166

    Hard Drive - Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146890 $168

    Memory - OCZ EL Platinum Revision 2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104153 $199

    Power Supply - OCZ PowerStream OCZ600ADJ ATX12V 600W Power Supply

    I was also considering this RAM: OCZ PC4000 VX Gold

    I'm pretty sure I'm sold on the RAM I have right there.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    It you are not going to be overclocking then you dont really need the best OCing motherboard with the DFI. Get something with the best features then.

    You wont need anything more than PC3200 either. If you are not OCing then its a waste of money.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    mmonnin wrote:
    It you are not going to be overclocking then you dont really need the best OCing motherboard with the DFI. Get something with the best features then.

    You wont need anything more than PC3200 either. If you are not OCing then its a waste of money.

    You know what I take that back, and also the DFI mobo costs less than the ABIT I had in mind so either way that's not an issue, it also ran better (stock) when tested. (anandtech.com being my resource).

    So now keep in mind I "will be overclocking", most likely will be now that i think of it.

    Sorry for any confusion.

    ---

    Note, when I added up the prices on Newegg it came to $1,941.42

    $108.48 in tax notably.

    Edit:For everything listed without the OCZ Ram and PSU (not offered)

    The total including shipping \ (no tax) came to:

    Subtotal: $1483.88 (zipzoomfly) :thumbsup: vs. $1544.37 (newegg)
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Sorry for being late DJ,

    The Elite stuff is brand new but we all know what the TCCD/TCC5 does. I have a co-worker who have worked closely with Abit with that board and i honestly don't know how good or bad it is. Lemme check if i can find some information since i have been out of the loop the last week. Good TCCD/TCC5 is the right memory for just about any board out there.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    MackanzOCZ wrote:
    Sorry for being late DJ,

    The Elite stuff is brand new but we all know what the TCCD/TCC5 does. I have a co-worker who have worked closely with Abit with that board and i honestly don't know how good or bad it is. Lemme check if i can find some information since i have been out of the loop the last week. Good TCCD/TCC5 is the right memory for just about any board out there.

    Hah, that's okay I haven't bought anything yet.

    I'm curious also about the DFI board I listed in my more recent posts, I saw some benchmarks of the revision 2 and it clearly was the best of the pc3200's.

    But I'm curious if there's something better that you have some benchmarks for and what not, thanks Mackanz and to the other guys helping too. :thumbsup:
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    You will basically get the same benchmarks out of all Platinum memory at the same memory speed as they are based on the same chips. These memory are great cause they don't need as much voltage as the VX memory, but the VX performs better clock for clock.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Mack,

    It's about time you showed up. ;D j/k

    Congrats on the big news!


    now back to our regularly scheduled program. ;)
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    MackanzOCZ wrote:
    You will basically get the same benchmarks out of all Platinum memory at the same memory speed as they are based on the same chips. These memory are great cause they don't need as much voltage as the VX memory, but the VX performs better clock for clock.

    So in the end which do you reccomend?

    Also now that we're talking about OCZ products, which power supply would you reccomend for this system, and why?

    I had these two in mind:

    OCZ ModStream OCZ52012U ATX 520W

    OCZ PowerStream OCZ600ADJ ATX12V 600W
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    OCZ Powerstream of course, even if the wattage was the same. The powerstream is a better PSU than the modstream.

    I would like to take a powerstream and put in a modstream box so I could use the functionality of both.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    mmonnin wrote:
    OCZ Powerstream of course, even if the wattage was the same. The powerstream is a better PSU than the modstream.

    I would like to take a powerstream and put in a modstream box so I could use the functionality of both.

    Yeah that's what I was thinking.

    Is it worth the upgrade from my current ultra x-connect 500w?
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    bump~
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    What are the current rails looking like?
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    DJ, is your current psu a 24-pin? You may need a native 24-pin psu to be able to run most mainboards. In fact, DFI even says that they won't support customers if they dont have a 24-pin.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2005
    And they dont support the 20->24 pin adapter either.

    My DFI nForce4 board has the same rails with or without the apapter but will not post without the P4 connector, unlike the NF7-S nForce2 board.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    MackanzOCZ wrote:
    DJ, is your current psu a 24-pin? You may need a native 24-pin psu to be able to run most mainboards. In fact, DFI even says that they won't support customers if they dont have a 24-pin.

    I don't think it is:

    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=273002
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Nope, thats a standard 20 pin. A modstram would serve you well and it isnt that expensive either. I use one in my gaming rig with the FX, Radeon x850 XT PE, 2GB of ram and the other stuff without problems at all.
  • djstubbsdjstubbs NJ
    edited July 2005
    MackanzOCZ wrote:
    Nope, thats a standard 20 pin. A modstram would serve you well and it isnt that expensive either. I use one in my gaming rig with the FX, Radeon x850 XT PE, 2GB of ram and the other stuff without problems at all.

    Modstream 520W I assume?
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited July 2005
    Yes sir.
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