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Best BT client?

panzerkwpanzerkw New York City
edited Jun 2006 in Technology
I am having some trouble with throughput with BT (tried a torrent with 100+ seeds, only was getting 5KB throughput :( )

So what is the best, fastest client for use with BT? I am currently trying to use shareaza
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  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    I used azareus until my college blocked BT traffic. I thought it worked nicely.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    I use ABC. It works really well for me.

    http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
  • GarabedGarabed Toronto, Canada
    edited Nov 2004
    ABC is all u need
  • AuthorityActionAuthorityAction Missouri Member
    edited Nov 2004
    Azureus is the best one I've ever used. IMO it beats ABC hands down. You can get it here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    ABC.

    DMZ or port forward ports 44000 - 45000.
    Set the ABC client to use those ports.
    Maximum uploads should be (Max upload bandwidth / 8).
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    ABC is the only one I've tried, I like it.
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK
    edited Nov 2004
    bitornado works for me, very easy to use.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    I used to use Shadow but that was a single thing. Using Azureus now (just downloaded it) and loving it. Multi torrenting. wooo...
  • panzerkwpanzerkw New York City
    edited Nov 2004
    Thrax wrote:
    ABC.

    DMZ or port forward ports 44000 - 45000.
    Set the ABC client to use those ports.

    Duh?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited Nov 2004
    I use ABC as well. One thing I dont like is that if you have several torrents seeding at once it wont always keep your max upload speed. I often find my upload getting raped when I have it set to like 40k or so. Thats the only thing I dont like about ABC, otherwise its great.
  • comfortablecomfortable Sugarland, TX
    edited Nov 2004
    Bitcomet works for me. I ditched Azureus in favor of a non-java based client.
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    panzerkw wrote:
    Duh?

    It's not duh. I've had to make those instructions brick-to-the-face clear on SM atleast a dozen times. People don't understand that ISPs are taking notice of BT-typical ports and throttling them.
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK
    edited Nov 2004
    Thrax wrote:
    It's not duh. I've had to make those instructions brick-to-the-face clear on SM atleast a dozen times. People don't understand that ISPs are taking notice of BT-typical ports and throttling them.


    Correct. They're doing it in the UK too now. Also some sites wont allow you to connect to the tracker if you use the default ports, for precisly the reason quoted above
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    Interesting... I didn't know that.

    I'm kinda stuck configuring my modem for that... What should "Base Host Port" be set to? :confused:" alt=":confused:" />
    Protocol=TCP?

    -Rick
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    TCP, yes. But I don't know what a base host port is. :scratch:" alt=":scratch:" />
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited Nov 2004
    The last set of numbers of your computer's IP? LIke 192.168.0.X Just guessing here.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    192.168.1.97

    What's the IP got to do with it? :confused:" alt=":confused:" />
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    On my D-Link, I have a "Trigger Port" field. I just put the port range in it (IE: "44000-45000" without quotes) and it's working fine. Maybe that's the same thing.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    Trigger ports only allow incoming traffic on the specified ports after specific outgoing traffic right? Hmm... That should work.

    EDIT:
    It's still asking me for a trigger port! :rant:" alt=":rant:" />

    Any suggestions?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited Nov 2004
    I dont know why you are doing it with FireFox anyway. All I did was tell ABC which ports and port forwarded those ports to my computer via the router. I didnt do anything with an Internet Browser.
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    That's his router config, Marc. It just happens to be in a firefox window.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited Nov 2004
    I guess I do it inside of IE but it usually looks like IE and not like a pop-up window.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    Looks like a wizard interface. If I use the wizard on my router, it pops up another window. :)
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    I dont know why you are doing it with FireFox anyway. All I did was tell ABC which ports and port forwarded those ports to my computer via the router. I didnt do anything with an Internet Browser.
    I'm trying to set up the router for port forwarding now, and this is the only way I know to reach the configuration.

    That pic I posted a while ago was a popup from clicking "Define Custom Service" The rest of the config does look like a normal browser window...

    It gives me an error when I try and hit next...

    "Your Base Host Port plus your End Port in your range exceeds 65535."

    Look familiar to anyone?

    -Rick
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited Nov 2004
    What router? Maybe the manufacture website will have some info.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    I think the modem is the router... It plugs into the Linksys switch through the uplink port.

    Westll A90-210030-04
    Rev. G

    EDIT: A quick google search didn't help much...
  • panzerkwpanzerkw New York City
    edited Nov 2004
    I meant duh in that I had no idea what you said
  • Cygnus_x_1Cygnus_x_1 New Jersey
    edited Nov 2004
    TheGr81 wrote:
    I think the modem is the router... It plugs into the Linksys switch through the uplink port.

    Westll A90-210030-04
    Rev. G

    EDIT: A quick google search didn't help much...


    check here great site for port forwarding info...they have westell listed, but i didnt see your model.
  • TheSmJTheSmJ Farmington Hills (Metro Detroit)
    edited Nov 2004
    I just started using ABC yesterday. It's the best BT Client I've used thus far (though I've only ever used Shadow's Expiremental, which is banned on most trackers, and the original client, which has no options what-so-ever.
  • GobblesGobbles Ventura California
    edited Nov 2004
    we had to stop doing all p2p here at work.. we got a forwarded email from iswest, they forwarded us an email from the MPAA. It appears someone here in the office was downloading movies. The mpaa now wants to sue and over, of all things, ron burgandy anchorman avi. Man it could have atleast been a worth while flick lol.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited Nov 2004
    That was a good movie! Stfu!
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida
    edited Nov 2004
    I know how to set up port forwarding, it just won't LET me. :shakehead Something about the "base host port" (I have no idea what that is, and the website only lists instructions for the ports that BT uses by default.

    Is there any other range of ports I can use, or am I just stuck? :scratch:" alt=":scratch:" />
  • croc_croc_ Westchester, California
    edited Nov 2004
    NEWS TEAM ASSEMBLE!

    I use 3.3 shad0ws experimental or whatever.
  • CryptoCrypto W.Sussex UK
    edited Nov 2004
    TheSmJ wrote:
    I just started using ABC yesterday. It's the best BT Client I've used thus far (though I've only ever used Shadow's Expiremental, which is banned on most trackers, and the original client, which has no options what-so-ever.

    Why would the trackers do that? What does it matter to them which client you use?

    Crypto :confused:" alt=":confused:" />
  • BudBud Chesterfield, Va
    edited Nov 2004
    Thrax wrote:
    ABC.

    DMZ or port forward ports 44000 - 45000.
    Set the ABC client to use those ports.
    Maximum uploads should be (Max upload bandwidth / 8).

    I thought by default bt client uses normally in the high 6000's like 6999
  • TheSmJTheSmJ Farmington Hills (Metro Detroit)
    edited Nov 2004
    Crypto wrote:
    Why would the trackers do that? What does it matter to them which client you use?

    Crypto :confused:" alt=":confused:" />


    Because using Shadow's, you can change your maximum UL rate, without reporting it correctly to the tracker.
  • PressXPressX Working! New
    edited Dec 2004
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Dec 2004
    Bud wrote:
    I thought by default bt client uses normally in the high 6000's like 6999

    It does. ISPs are throttling those ports.
  • CyrixInsteadCyrixInstead Stoke-on-Trent, England Member
    edited Dec 2004
    Some useful guides can be found on afterdawn's website.

    I looked through them and came to the comclusion that Azereus looked the best. I'm yet to see though.

    They're at:
    Guide to using ABC (Another BitTorrent Client)
    Guide to using Azureus (BitTorrent Client)
    Guide to using BitComet (BitTorrent Client)
    Guide to using BitTornado (BitTorrent Client)
    Guide to using G3 Torrent (BitTorrent Client)

    ~Cyrix
  • GobdGobd Seattle, WA
    edited Dec 2004
    There is no best but I can tell you now that Shareaza is one of the worst. In the new version in the works there are tons of fixes for Bittorrent that should make it respectable. The official is good to fall back on but hogs memory and CPU. Azureus is also a hog and massivly bloated with too many features. ABC is fairly good, enough features and doesn't hog too much. G3 Torrent is great but not updated much any more. Bit Tornado is also great but lacks a GUI. In my opinion Burst! is the best because it has a GUI with a queue, uses very little resources, and isn't bloated with way too many options. Depends on what you like. If G3 starts being updated again I will surely go back to that. If you deviate too much from the well known clients you might find one that trackers don't support.

    Official Client
    Azureus
    ABC
    Bit Tornado
    G3 Torrent
    Burst!
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower
    edited Jun 2006
    i'm using bitlord right now, why in god's name is it taking up 27% of a duo 2.0ghz?
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Jun 2006
    Because it's a bad client, apparently. Use Azureus or uTorrent.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited Jun 2006
    uTorrent really is quite the amazing little program. I had a tiny bit of a rough transition from Azureus to it, but now I'd never go back.

    82 seeding torrents, 1-2% CPU, 8mb RAM.

    Fantastic.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower
    edited Jun 2006
    hmmm.. so my comp experiences extreme slow downs and lock ups with whatever bt client i use...ive used azeurus, bitlord and abc...anyone know why...is it because my wireless card is integrated (i have a dell lappy)
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Pokémaster, Watch Slut Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited Jun 2006
    It may be. BitTorrent is HELL on network devices.. It hammers TCP/IP traffic like the fist of an angry god; in so doing, it can crash PCs with shoddy network cards and reboot bad routers.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower
    edited Jun 2006
    OOoooO...well that makes sense...i figured since it was built it i might need to buy another wireless card....but is a built in centrino mobile device good enough? or is it "shoddy"
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited Jun 2006
    I have an IBM laptop with built in wireless. Whatever may appear in the Centrino package. It causes blue screens pretty badly when I transfer Torrents.
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI
    edited Jun 2006
    i have a sager laptop, with the intel centrino package as well, using the builtin 2200bg wireless card downloading torrents without any problems.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower
    edited Jun 2006
    i knew it must have been the built in wireless....grrrr
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited Jun 2006
    Thrax wrote:
    It may be. BitTorrent is HELL on network devices.. It hammers TCP/IP traffic like the fist of an angry god; in so doing, it can crash PCs with shoddy network cards and reboot bad routers.

    Thrax speaks the truth. I have had many friends with those cheap-skate $30-after-rebate routers, and BT brings them to their knees. When BT isn't running, the routers work fine. But soon as BT start running and pushing a load of traffic the router will either reboot, lock up, stop responding etc.

    As far as clients Azureus is a great client, but wow does it eat some resources. If you leave it running in the background for more than a day or two you will be suprised.

    uTorrent is arguable as good as Az but without some of the slowness.

    Personally right now I am with uTorrent ( i tend to alternate after reformats) however lately I have not really being using BT and instead have been using newsgroups. When you can max out your connection for the WHOLE download (not to mention no need to upload) it sort of puts BT to shame :bigggrin:

    cheers
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