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Team name straw poll

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  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California
    edited Jun 2007
    Profdlp.. why don't you tell us how you really feel? instead of beating the bush... no matter what I will still love you :)
  • GargoyleGargoyle Illinois Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    profdlp said:
    That reminds me of the old joke "we'll give him a fair trial and then we'll hang him".
    The fairness of democracy is a matter of perspective ;)
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    I think Prof is being pretty clear :p
  • LincolnLincoln Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    profdlp said:
    "Foregone conclusion", get it?
    You moved directly from accusing me of using the team as a "gimmick" to less-than-subtly insinuating (repeatedly, at every opportunity) that I had decided to change the team's name before posting the poll.

    I hadn't. I hypothesized that most people favored the name matching the site or wouldn't care. The committee ceased discussing it for (literally) a week and a half before I decided to investigate, regain our power to change it at all, and then post this to figure out what most people on the team wanted.

    Turns out I was more correct than I thought I would be. I expected the results to be closer, frankly.

    I made the poll public to be transparent about the tallies. I grouped all the "new name" options together so it wouldn't dilute the vote. I added equally positive comments after each, and I waited until several posts into the thread to state my own opinion. If you feel some votes should be disqualified, go ahead and list them - here or privately. I'll be surprised if it substantively changes the results thus far.

    What sense would it make for me to post a poll if I already decided? I'm sure it'd make me look great to start a poll in which 80% decided to pick a new name and then I went and changed it to what I wanted anyway. Heck, I even called it a "straw poll" so as to not publicly back the committee into a corner. Of course I'm going to exert some pressure to get this diplomatically resolved the way I'd like it to. That doesn't mean I'm going to be a jerk about it.

    Lastly, what sense does it make for you to keep saying that? Is there a goal to trash-talking me in public? I can't figure out what that would be, aside from trying to make me look bad.

    Your scoffing at me has pretty well crossed the line from being reasonable (I understand not liking the site's name changing) to being offensive at this point. Brian and I have both attempted to work around whatever obstacles exist to getting you to the LAN (and continue to - I want you up here for it, honestly), where I'm sure they'll be talking about it, and we've been ignored. I don't know what else you expect from me.
  • jaredjared College Station, TX
    edited Jun 2007
    I agree with Thrax and the others.

    As a member of the original team 93, it seems logical for the team to keep the same identity as the community/website.

    Originally 93 was IC, then the community transformed into Short-Media... the team followed.

    Now that we are Icrontic again, it seems only right that the folding team returns to its roots as well.

    I talked to Keebs about the the conundrum regarding team name long before this poll was posted (when the new site was still in development) and he told me back then that no decisions had been made and that we would have to ask the folding community. So I'm not sure why you are on such a high horse throwing around accusations. :wtf:
  • IndigoRedIndigoRed Kilmore Victoria Australia
    edited Jun 2007
    I voted for SM, just a nostalgia thing. But I' m proud of you all, mi amigos, and the banner won't change that. In the long run we're here to find a cure.

    Focus.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited Jun 2007
    IndigoRed said:
    I voted for SM, just a nostalgia thing. But I' m proud of you all, mi amigos, and the banner won't change that. In the long run we're here to find a cure.

    Focus.
    Well said - thank you. :fold:

    Matt, I don't know why you are taking this so personally. You are only one of many who support this idea and I was not intentionally singling you out. If it came to look that way, I apologize. :)

    When I use the term "foregone conclusion" it is due to the fact that I viewed the change in the team name as inevitable as soon as the change in the site name was revealed. It has almost nothing to do with any events which have taken place since then.

    For me, I always felt like somewhat of an outsider back at the original Icrontic. There was a tight-knit core of friends there and I always felt like the new guy who would never quite fit in. When Short-Media came along I saw my chance to be a part of something new and jumped in wholeheartedly.

    Now that Short-Media is gone I find myself feeling like an outsider again. Maybe that doesn't make any sense, but that doesn't change the way I feel.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX
    edited Jun 2007
    Don't feel bad. Everyone is just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

    While I prefer Team Icrontic, I think that's retarded since there is another team named Icrontic so I think the next best solution is Team 93. Brian think's that sucks so my next favorite name is Team Nine Three. I doubt anyone like's that either. I don't really care much about the name change except I think Team Icrontic is stupid unless the current Icrontic team changes it's name to something else, maybe IC Dead PPL. :D
    profdlp said:
    Now that Short-Media is gone I find myself feeling like an outsider again. Maybe that doesn't make any sense, but that doesn't change the way I feel.
  • LincolnLincoln Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    profdlp said:
    Now that Short-Media is gone I find myself feeling like an outsider again. Maybe that doesn't make any sense, but that doesn't change the way I feel.
    Well no, it doesn't make any sense since you're basically synonymous with the community here. You're deeper in the core community than I am :p When it's late at night and I'm worrying about the site and community, I start thinking of scenarios that would truly screw the site. My number one worst-case scenario involves you deciding to pull up stakes. (It also involves being left naked and smeared with poo in the middle of the street, but that's for another thread... :range: )
  • GargoyleGargoyle Illinois Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    Keebler said:
    (It also involves being left naked and smeared with poo in the middle of the street, but that's for another thread... :range: )
    I thought that was on the LAN calendar for Saturday?
  • LincolnLincoln Community Instigator Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
  • QeldromaQeldroma Arid ZoneAh
    edited Jun 2007
    Keebler said:
    I'd like to take a straw poll here and see what people think.
    ….

    I didn't create this with the intention of the results being binding, but I think it would help everyone to get a clearer picture of what people think.

    …. I imagine it would entail another set of discussions and round of voting, but that's outside my purview.
    I don’t think this straw poll is conclusive as many members don’t care what the outcome is and that can be interpreted as not changing anything as well as going ahead and making one. This poll also could include many non-folding, don’t care members- which does kind of bother me.

    Since this vote was never meant to be conclusive then, if I may suggest, maybe a formal vote should be considered among active folding team members. Maybe a topic at the LAN should be about who qualifies as such.

    Prof- I’ve looked up to you as a leader in this community- more specifically, a technical and Folding@Home leader who wants to see this science advance to someday help someone we give a damn about as much as someone you give a damn about. And I think that is worth giving a damn about and I, at least, hope you can understand that I think you’ve earned your place here- whether we are called Short-Medians or Icrontians.

    BTW, Keebs- this thread was a good idea :thumbsup:
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much
    edited Jun 2007
    jared said:
    Originally 93 was IC, then the community transformed into Short-Media... the team followed.

    Now that we are Icrontic again, it seems only right that the folding team returns to its roots as well.
    What about people that only know Short-Media, like myself, and were never part of Icrontic. Guess we have to follow suit or get left behind.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    dragonV8 said:
    What about people that only know Short-Media, like myself, and were never part of Icrontic. Guess we have to follow suit or get left behind.
    Did you join because the team because it was named Short-Media or did you join because of the community/support you got?

    ...well the community is still the same, just a different name. Just because the name changes, doesn't mean what it was is dead.

    Short-Media was a community of people, and those people are still here now.

    just my $.02 and not meant to attack at all.
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much
    edited Jun 2007
    fatcat6 said:
    Did you join because the team because it was named Short-Media or did you join because of the community/support you got?
    I joined because of the assistance i got from Sort-Media.:thumbsup:
    fatcat6 said:
    ...well the community is still the same, just a different name. Just because the name changes, doesn't mean what it was is dead.

    Short-Media was a community of people, and those people are still here now.
    My (our) way of repaying was to F:fold:LD for Shot-Media and join all the other members and Teams aroud the world to hopefully find cures.

    I realise it is about the community of people, however we only know Short-Media as such and may not be as exited about a name change as others that came from Icrontic (read: forced) due to no fault of their own.
    fatcat6 said:
    just my $.02 and not meant to attack at all.
    No probs...........did not take offence.:)
  • witenoizwitenoiz 19,356 miles East of Kansas City, MO
    edited Jun 2007
    dragonV8 said:
    What about people that only know Short-Media, like myself, and were never part of Icrontic. Guess we have to follow suit or get left behind.
    Jon - I don't think we will be left behind, but, I am with you - I never belonged to Icrontic - I joined Short-Media. :cool: I liked the folding sigs - and :) that's why I joined. There is a story there - but I would have to really slam another team to get into it - :( Not worth it. Jack
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much
    edited Jun 2007
    witenoiz said:
    Jon - I don't think we will be left behind, but, I am with you - I never belonged to Icrontic - I joined Short-Media. :cool: I liked the folding sigs - and :) that's why I joined. There is a story there - but I would have to really slam another team to get into it - :( Not worth it. Jack
    We have known each other (internet wise) for a long time Jack.

    I hear what you are saying (if i may say so).:)
  • pseudonympseudonym Michigan Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    I think this is much about nothing guys. When we swapped over to the SM name I can't remember a debate like this going on. If I remember correctly people just kinda shrugged their shoulders and went on with life. Its really no big deal, its just a name, and if that makes many of you upset to change over than I'm sorry but its happened once and we all survived, no big deal.

    Bottom line IMHO, is that the team represents the current site that organizes it and currently that is Icrontic. Now this site is organized in the background by some very talented, VERY hardworking people that do nothing but slave over a hot LCD to bring you mmm, mmm, tasty forumness and the like. I know the point of folding is to find the cure and all that jazz but in the end there is also some name recognition involved with this that ultimately promotes this site AND the team. Basically if we change to Icrontic we get a name that people can easily find since it exists and secondly we give some much needed PR to the people that put their blood, sweat, tears, and hard earned money into this site.

    The team needs to represent the site that its based out of simply for recruitment and recognition for the people that work on it. This isn't a what was here first issue, its a what is here now issue and right now the site is Icrontic and the team should represent that fact.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited Jun 2007
    I think this is much about nothing guys. When we swapped over to the SM name I can't remember a debate like this going on.
    When we swapped before, the Icrontic name was not available. It had been purchased by someone else. Short-Media became a new site. Short-Media's membership consists of significantly more new members than members that migrated from the original Icrontic (pre-2003). If the majority of members here now were prior 'original' Icrontic members, I would imagine there wouldn't be much discussion now about the name change.
  • IndigoRedIndigoRed Kilmore Victoria Australia
    edited Jun 2007
    Jeez Louise' purple turkey butt slathered in peanut butter, folks. Who gives a bees penus about the name??? It's the people. This is a site of people. People that have gotten close due to the comeraderie between them. Helping each other. Helping those that need help from us. Drinking and partying with each other if the option is viable, or like me, raising one by myself to my mates I can't be with. I AM a proud Short Median, I AM a proud Icronticon. I am these things because I am proud of the association with the people, not the name. I'd be a proud Professor Dumbledore Toe Licker, if it had this group in it. (I may not scream that name from the rooftops, mind you...:bigggrin:)
    So hang up the name crap, and move on.

    I'm folding for Team 93. I'm Folding with the mates I've chosen and I'm proud of that fact. GAF about the name...

    Bloody hell, have an all out vote, OF THE FOLDING MEMBERS, and have done with it, we don't need this division.
  • edited Sep 2007
    Icromedia.

    But as long as you don't delete my post, I don't care. Well, maybe legally prime or Mediaman's post, but... . Learning something here is my gusto anyway.:D
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