The Icrontic Gun Thread

Ivan · Dec 2007

_k_ · Sep 2008

Well most guns will shoot really well it just takes a new better barrel. Well that upper receiver would work find, just watch out with NDS-22 because flat tops with rear sights don't have as much elevation change possible as single blocks. As well as, if you use scope on that you need to re-zero each time it comes off and have to make sure it doesn't get loose if you leave it on there for a time.

But "competition" is something people like to stick on those small bore rifles. Its just a rifle that can shoot really well, and everyone starts with something basic. There should be a section in the forum or FAQ about what good base bolt rifles would be to start with as a building platform.

cherplunka · Sep 2008

i haven't shot in so long......

my favorite was a .44 magnum taurus. we would load it up with a mix of full and light loads so that i would never know when the "big" bang would go off.

.....and one time i shot a friend's little .22 matchpistol and fell positively in love. a pure joy to shoot. never thought i would care for lighter calibers.

it's been to long. very sad.

Riptide · Nov 2008

As someone posted above, taking a trip to the range is a great way to release stress. I try to go a couple times a week, however in the winter that isn't always possible. I don't hunt, nor do I have any intentions to. However moose and sheep meat taste great. I just punch paper and silouettes for fun.

My "collection"

Springfield Armory XD9mm
Norinco M77B 9mm
CZ75 9mm
Ruger SR9mm
SigSauer Mosquito .22
Norinco M14 (308)
Ruger 1022 (.22)
CZ858 (7.62x39)
Russian SKS-D (7.62x39)
12ga 12.5" barrel (bear gun)
12ga 18.0" barrel (skeet, etc)

jared · Nov 2008

Ah good thread. I'll add to it with a question.

Currently I don't own any hand guns, just a deer rifle and a shotgun.

I'm thinking about getting a Glock sometimes after Christmas. I've shot one before and thought it had a pretty good feel and the price is good :D

Anyone else have one or have any suggestions for a hand gun similar?

:jared:

_k_ · Nov 2008

Sig....thats it, you buy. My fathers carry is a 9mm Sig with a short barrel, and its one of their certified used ones. I am actually looking at buying my own Sig, short barrel, this Christmas in the .357. They have really nice triggers on them from the factory, just enough travel in the them and just a fairly constant pull with little over travel after the hammer falls. Very easy for just a point and shoot out to about 30 yards or so due to the short sight radius, the longer barrels will be easier to shoot with some practice.

Though one of the indoor ranges we go to the owner only rents out Sigs and Glocks period because they don't break....as often as everything else. I know a lot of people that love their Glocks, they are a lot nicer pistol now.

fatcat · Nov 2008

BuddyJ · Nov 2008

Jared, for a handgun, check out the Glocks and new Springfield XD pistols. Both are nice guns. You've just gotta find something that fits your hand. A 9mm is a great caliber for a pistol. It packs a decent punch unlike a .22, yet is still inexpensive enough for plinking with. If you don't like "plastic" guns, a CZ75 or Browning Hi-Power make a good choice. It's all about what you're comfortable with.

Nice collection Riptide. Looks like you're well set for punching holes in paper. I haven't been to the range in forever, but hope to do it soon. I've got a Yugo 8mm Mauser coming soon that needs broken in, and my friend's dad has some other military surplus guns that we'd like to shoot. I'm considering buying a 1895 Nagant revolver soon. They're $70 and one of the few revolvers ever that can be suppressed.

tmh88 · Nov 2008

guns are terribleÂ¡Â¡Â¡Â¡ (for those of you in the IRC channel)

Lincoln · Nov 2008

And for those not in the IRC channel, the upside-down exclamation mark is known as the sarcasm mark.

Chip · Nov 2008

Buddy J, just bought an AK-47 myself. I pick it up Nov 28th. It's pre-ban, 30rnd clip with 6 position stock 762x39 threaded barrel. It's the Romanian WASR which isn't known for the best quality, but it was new and I got a pretty good deal on it.

The rest of my collection is fairly modest:
9mm Taurus PT-99 with preban 15rnd and 18rnd clips
12gauge single shot shot shotgun
Old .410 bolt action with 5 rnd fixed clip (ya,... it's weird)
Couple of semi-auto .22s

BuddyJ · Nov 2008

Chip said:
Buddy J, just bought an AK-47 myself. I pick it up Nov 28th. It's pre-ban, 30rnd clip with 6 position stock 762x39 threaded barrel. It's the Romanian WASR which isn't known for the best quality, but it was new and I got a pretty good deal on it.

The rest of my collection is fairly modest:
9mm Taurus PT-99 with preban 15rnd and 18rnd clips
12gauge single shot shot shotgun
Old .410 bolt action with 5 rnd fixed clip (ya,... it's weird)
Couple of semi-auto .22s

Cool Chip! I didn't know you shot. DeathJester has a WASR-10. It took a bit of tinkering to get it to work right, but now it shoots like an AK should. We found that replacing the steel magazines with modern Bulgarian poly mags made for a tighter fit in the magwell. No more feed problems.

Looks like you're all set. Have you taught your kids to shoot the .22s yet?

Riptide · Nov 2008

Buddy J said:
Jared, for a handgun, check out the Glocks and new Springfield XD pistols. Both are nice guns. You've just gotta find something that fits your hand. A 9mm is a great caliber for a pistol. It packs a decent punch unlike a .22, yet is still inexpensive enough for plinking with. If you don't like "plastic" guns, a CZ75 or Browning Hi-Power make a good choice. It's all about what you're comfortable with.

Nice collection Riptide. Looks like you're well set for punching holes in paper. I haven't been to the range in forever, but hope to do it soon. I've got a Yugo 8mm Mauser coming soon that needs broken in, and my friend's dad has some other military surplus guns that we'd like to shoot. I'm considering buying a 1895 Nagant revolver soon. They're $70 and one of the few revolvers ever that can be suppressed.

Yeah, I love my SP XD 9mm. Mine has a longer barrel than I was expecting when I ordered it, but it's great at the range. Seeing how Canadians cannot get a CCW, this really isn't an issue. The CZ is in the mail, so I haven't had the pleasure yet, but from what I hear it's a great little shooter. As for Sigs, I keep looking for a good deal on a p220, as this will be my next pistol (for the very reasons stated above).

muddocktor · Nov 2008

Here's a pic of 4 of my pistols. From top left: 1. Husqvarna .380 auto 2. Magnum Research Desert Eagle .44 Mag 3. S&W Model 27 .357 Mag 4. Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum

tmh88 · Nov 2008

The Ruger Blackhawk looks amazing. Nice collection.

Chip · Nov 2008

Buddy J said:
Cool Chip! I didn't know you shot. DeathJester has a WASR-10. It took a bit of tinkering to get it to work right, but now it shoots like an AK should. We found that replacing the steel magazines with modern Bulgarian poly mags made for a tighter fit in the magwell. No more feed problems.

Looks like you're all set. Have you taught your kids to shoot the .22s yet?

I heard of a little mag wobble and trigger slap issues. What's strange is I can't find my exact model in any WASR search. Here's the exact AK-47 I bought at gunbroker.com I'm guessing all the WASRs have the mag wobble and trigger slap issue. Since I'm picking it up at a gun show, I'll probably look for a mag there that has a tight fit. Although I suspect they won't allow me to test fit the mag in my gun at the gun show.

The kids haven't shot the .22s yet. They need to learn basic gun safety. I bought my son a cheapo AK-47 airsoft knockoff to learn with.

BuddyJ · Nov 2008

You're right Chip. The WASRs are most often imported by Century Arms to the US. From the factory, they have single-stack magazines. Century gets them and re-cuts the mag well to allow for a double stack magazine, and then they install US-made parts to make them compliant with import laws. Century's staff is known for being messy with this work, leaving the mag-well a bit too big, and the trigger group they install is what causes the slap. You can fix the trigger slap with some quick dremel work, and the Bulgarian Arsenal magazines fit tight and will fix the wobble you'll find in metal mags. The Bulgarian Arsenal proof marks their products with a Circle 10 stamp. If you see the number 10 in a circle, it should be a legit product. Also, a recoil buffer is a really cheap way to make shooting the AK more enjoyable.

Chip · Nov 2008

BuddyJ, thanks for the info. That's great info and stuff I hadn't read anywhere else. Man that saves me a lot of time. I'm fairly decent with the Dremel, so that's no biggie. It looks like I'm well on my way to a decent rifle. Unfortunately, if the system is as you described, I think the increased demand for the WASR AK's will lead to pressure to push them out faster, thus probably more lax standards.

BuddyJ · Nov 2008

No problem man. I know you're handy with a Dremel after your Guitar Hero controller project. Anything to help. After all, you've helped me numerous times!

Canti · Nov 2008

drasnor said:
I used to do some target shooting in the Boy Scouts with a Ruger .22 bolt action rifle and open sights. I wouldn't mind having one of those, cycling the action on a bolt action is most satisfying.

-drasnor :fold:

Hell yes, rifle shooting merit badge is the shit.

NiGHTS · Nov 2008

Lord Canti said:
Hell yes, rifle shooting merit badge is the shit.

:) I got mine!

BuddyJ · Nov 2008

I never got the rifle one. I got shotgun though. That was a blast!

sorry for the bad pun.

Chip · Nov 2008

I picked up my AK-47 at the Dallas gun show today. Whoa was that an experience. I've been to the big D gun show before, but it's never been like this. Obama has certainly stirred the redneck pot. The line to get in was well over a quarter mile long and growing by the second. It was out the door, down the sidewalk, through the parking lot and almost out the end of the huge parking lot. Almost half of the firearms were AR-15 and AK-47 variants. It looks like I got a decent deal on my '47, but you could pick up folding stock '47's in good condition for $650.

AR-15s were $1100 on up with truckloads of brand new ones.
I bought 7.62x39mm ammo 1000 rounds for $260. I also picked up 3 Tapco poly mags for $20 a piece for the 30 round mags. In retrospect, I should have gone for the 40 round for $10 more and Bulgarian made. My Tapco mags are going to require some slight sanding. They fit too tight. I can barely get them back out. I'll have to inspect carefully to see exactly what to sand.

The hand guard and butt are poly so it'll certainly last, but nothing pretty to look at. Wifey says it looks like a toy. I hope to post pics soon.

LawnMM · Nov 2008

jared said:
Ah good thread. I'll add to it with a question.

Currently I don't own any hand guns, just a deer rifle and a shotgun.

I'm thinking about getting a Glock sometimes after Christmas. I've shot one before and thought it had a pretty good feel and the price is good :D

Anyone else have one or have any suggestions for a hand gun similar?

:jared:

In addition to Buddy J's suggestions of Glock and Springfield XD I would also suggest checking out the Smith and Wesson M&P series as they offer a reliable pistol with interchangeable backstraps in a variety of calibers. 9mm is a bit cheaper to shoot than .45 so if you aren't bent on one caliber over another I'd look at some 9mm pistols. The calibers perform with negligible differences using modern hollow point ammo.

GnomeWizardd · Nov 2008

was shooting a Walther 9mm the other day UNBELIEVABLE best hand gun to date i have shot

pragtastic · Nov 2008

Hardcore .45 acp fan, that's all I have for this thread for now.

(Maybe some pics in the near future ;-) )

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