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Sorry, PCs! Consoles are the better deal

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  • IvanIvan Icrontic’s Loveable Bot
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm The Photographer Member, Supporter
    (PS3 not at all - PSN is entirely free.)

    Just like you don't buy a PC only to game, you don't buy a TV only to game. Both are items you use otherwise. As monitor sizes move into TV-sized territory, it'll be entirely moot anyway - one stop display shopping.
  • kryystkryyst Member
    UPSLynx said:

    PC's have been gaming at HD resolutions for a long long time now, and with digital displays being the defacto standard, you have HD gaming at time of purchase now. I don't believe HDTVs are standardized and affordable yet for the average household, upgrading is mandatory to achieve said HD.
    The flaw in that though is that you don't need an HD tv to hook up your console. That 36" TV in the corner, that 17" pc monitor, they all do just fine. Buying a new console doesn't mean having to buy a new TV as well.
  • GnomeQueenGnomeQueen Member, Expo Attendee
    Pardon me if this has already been said- I'm at work, and I don't have time to read all of the replies super closely- but I think a big part of the cost discussion here comes down to whether or not someone needs to buy a PC or not. When I built my gaming rig, I needed a PC, making building that computer cheaper for me than buying a console. If I had already had a working computer and just wanted to game, getting a console would be cheaper. It's all very subjective, and I think the core problem here is that everyone is determined to say that one is cheaper over the other, when really, that's rather subjective to each circumstance.

    In other news, I should probably hook up the XBox 360 thats been sitting in its box for 5 months in my room, eh?
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm The Photographer Member, Supporter
    The core problem was that Cliff presumed anybody looking to game would need to buy a computer anyway - and he used that $400 price tag to prop up the argument that PC gaming was cheaper.
  • The reason I left the home theater peripherals and monitor out of the equation in my original piece was because I felt it was actually unbalanced and unfair to the console to include them.

    An average sized 1080P capable HDTV is much more expensive than the 24" 1080P monitor I sit in front of. I think either way, the HD set is going to be desirable in most homes, gaming on it or not, and some kind of computer monitor, weather its attached to a laptop, or desktop PC is also going to be desirable. My point being, is having one, does not preclude most people from "needing" the other.

    I still stand by the need for a PC as a valid argument. You can debate my $400 stat to a small extent, but the point is that the console does not replace a persons requirement for a home computer. If you already have it, fine, upgrade it for less than a new console and the same argument still holds water.
  • shwaipshwaip Community Leader, Writer
    So I can upgrade my socket A + agp card machine which will run all non-game related tasks (that you claim i need) for less than the price of a console?
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm The Photographer Member, Supporter
    I have a laptop that does everything I want for my standard computing tasks. Its integrated graphics will NEVER run a reasonable game. I should what - invest in a desktop replacement for $1k, or a gaming computer and monitor for $1-1.2k?

    People have different kinds of (and some people even have no) computers, Cliff. This is what's getting you in trouble with your analysis.
  • KoreishKoreish Writer
    Same could be said about TVs which is vital to your console argument.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm The Photographer Member, Supporter
    Correct - but the numbers say more people have TVs than have computers.
  • mas0nmas0n Member
    Snarkasm said:
    I have a laptop that does everything I want for my standard computing tasks. Its integrated graphics will NEVER run a reasonable game.
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    WHAT NOW.
  • RyderOCZ said:
    I don't care about the cost.

    I have a PC, I am into PC's.. not Consoles. Used to have Nintendo 64 that is as far as I went.

    If I want to game it will be on my PC.
    What he said.

    It's entirely possible consoles may be better value. I really think it depends how well you plan your PC upgrades.

    I'm an enthusiast, and my dollars are not always perfectly logically spent. However, I enjoy doing it. It's my way of life. If we define "value" as "enjoyment gained per dollar spent", I am quite certain my PC-spent dollars have more value for me than any dollars I could spend on a console.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS Givin'em the business... D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Gaming Leader, Writer
    Wait did we discuss how the PC is a dying medium for games, yet?
  • Nights,

    People have been declaring the death of PC gaming ever since the Dreamcast got online. PC is the worlds most accepted and widely available format for gaming. Games for windows are not going anywhere soon.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS Givin'em the business... D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Gaming Leader, Writer
    MMORPGs for Windows, I think you mean.
  • KoreishKoreish Writer
    It was long though that a good RTS would never come out on console. Then big ol' EA comes along with their recently purchased Westwood Studios and bam two decent RTS on console followed by Bungie's Halo Wars. My point being that MMORPGs will not last forever on PC.

    I'm telling you guys 5-10 years from now we will no longer see exclusive titles. And it will come down to preference only. Controller vs. Keyboard/Mouse.
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Fashion Police, Complex Hierarchy Interpreter, Community Leader, D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Dance Commander, Official Rep
    Fine by me. I know which one wins. ;)
  • Thrax said:
    Fine by me. I know which one wins. ;)
    Joysticks obviously!
  • kryystkryyst Member
    Koreish said:
    It was long though that a good RTS would never come out on console. Then big ol' EA comes along with their recently purchased Westwood Studios and bam two decent RTS on console followed by Bungie's Halo Wars. My point being that MMORPGs will not last forever on PC.

    I'm telling you guys 5-10 years from now we will no longer see exclusive titles. And it will come down to preference only. Controller vs. Keyboard/Mouse.
    MMORPG's are already launching on consoles. Final Fantasy, Phantasy Star Online and the new Champions MMO are all on consoles.
  • MAGICMAGIC Member, Event Organizer
    If they released WoW or EQ2 for the PS3 along with a keyboard/mouse perif i would definetly buy it. The one thing that the console has on the pc is portability.
  • I'm at work, so this thread is tl;dr.

    But I will say this. As a guy who has no money to buy a gaming PC or a console...

    SCREW YOU ALL.

    (Alternatively, shouldn't I be writing a "Portable gaming is teh winz" now? GAMEBOY FOREVAR)
  • HawkHawk Member
    This has very good portability and plays all the latest games I want to play when I'm traveling/ away from home.
    Runs Crysis fluently on highest settings in turbo mode.
    Does well with multi-threaded apps too.
    Not to mention I use it for video calls, faxing, online banking & accounting.
    I bought it for business, but also chose the specifics for gaming, watching DVD's, streaming movies over the net, etc.
    We have not had a console since our Atari with 100+ games we got at a yard sale for $40 many moons ago.
    So I can't join you on which is better.
    Just that we prefer PC's for the multiple uses that we get out of them.

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    MSI GT725
    Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4G
    17" WSXGA+ screen
    4GB DDR2
    320GB Sata HD
    DVD Super Multi
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850 / 512MB DDR3 VRAM
    Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
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  • _k__k_ deep in the bush Member, Supporter, Folding@Home Leader
    wait why are we even talking about how cheap either item can be? I thought IC was a little more about go big or go home, where is :life: if we are just trying to be cheap
  • _k_,

    I may be the riffraff responsible. I will say, I don't want to dissuade anyone from gaming no multiple platforms if they are fortunate enough to have the means. For some of us, we have to make some tough decisions based on the budget, and the fear of not being able to feed our kid next week. Trust me, I walk by PS3's all the time thinking "that would be so livin the icrontic life sitting next to my HDTV". Unfortunately I am left making some hard decisions and for me, PC offers a great value in comparison to a console.
  • KoreishKoreish Writer
    I'm :life: by going big for as little as possible.
  • _k__k_ deep in the bush Member, Supporter, Folding@Home Leader
    Koreish gets what I really meant. That kind of thinking is whole reason ICHQ is HD now.
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