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A couple points...
1. Kryptic AND Doc Scratch/Beartato may have just registered on the forums, but they have contributed monetarily to the servers and have played IC TF2 for months. They play regularly and are excellent players and overall great guys.
2. As Cliff said, it's only a game AND the mod is an opt-in option. Nothing more democratic then that. Why not try for a month and then if it's bad delete it?
3. Most of the original Icrontians have moved away from TF2 onto other things (which saddens me :(). However, there is a whole crew of great peeps (i.e. cola, the Turnips, Duck, Null, Doc Scratch, Kryptic, etc) that have joined and play often. In fact, Doc Scratch spent hours fixing the server when it died out of the goodness of his heart.
Icrontic means debate to me, but it doesn't mean erroneously questioning someone's opinion because they just registered nor does it mean telling good players to go elsewhere...especially when that person has actually proven to be a solid dude and the questioner rarely plays TF2.
Shall we put up a poll?!
The drama here and with Minecraft is getting way out of control. They're games, everybody. Open minds, open hearts, try anything once, etc. When both players have to opt-in, I mean... sheez.
People who don't play TF2, kindly bow out of offering your unsolicited opinions. Scratch represents the new guard of TF2 who have helped keep our server running for the rest of us, volunteering time and money. Those of us who quit playing months or years ago (I include myself in this group) shouldn't really be getting huffy about this mod.
Scratch, Kryptic, and the like aren't offering their opinions about what people do in WoW or Minecraft, and I think it's best if the opposite doesn't happen either.
That said, I get a little annoyed when a 3-post wonder comes in and throws a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way. Yes, I don't play TF2 much lately, mostly because I'm not a big fan of dealing with the griefing and herpderpery that goes along with playing most games online. The only reason I play at all is because there is the Icrontic server which is usually more or less a devoid of that. I happen to be a purist who enjoys (in 99% of cases) playing the game as the developer intended, ie without gameplay effecting mods such as the one being discussed here. Were said mod to be installed it would kill what interest I had in playing TF2 on the Icrontic server. Silly? Perhaps.... but it's just how I am. Thus I felt justified voting on the topic, despite the fact that I rarely play.
There are far more regulars who want the plugin than those who don't, so I'm going to go test things out and get it working right now!
Hooray democracy!
Also, first post. Am I cool yet?
SO MUCH DEF.
Whoopsie poopsie
As far as that whole argument goes, I skimmed it somewhat so sorry if I'm saying something stupid, but I think as long as the user can turn it off and on at will then I don't see the problem. It's pretty uncommon on surf maps that I've played on, so I would assume it happens less on regular maps (maybe not I really don't know).
The way I see it is that if the user has them turned on, they're probably not playing srsly. Some people like to play a srs game and that's fine, they can turn it off. I understand that other people on your team getting goomba stomped can be frustrating in key moments, but I think if they were playing srsly or cared about the match as much as you do, they would have turned it off. It's basically like trying to play a decent match on a server when your entire team is just dicking around or just doesn't care about winning.