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I for one am burned out on the clichés. No more bimbos pretending to like gadgets. No more guys thinking they're the first one to post "you mean she's holding a gadget?" on a tech blog. Let's get down to some real content and emphasize that the target audience is everyone, not just lonely weirdos in their mother's basement.
While we're at it, can we get LG, Samsung, and Asus to stop getting models to hold their latest netbook or pose whimsically next to their TV? Cheeeeezey.
Which leaves them two choices. They can either continue to be girls on the internet or they can be a tech column that just happens to be girls. In which case their high kicking girl power cartoon fails.
Are they trying to make a buck? Yeah (so?). Is what they're doing easier because of women that came before them? Yes, but it is also a reaction that is only necessary because of the women that came before them.
Whether or not it's the best strategy in the long run is something else. It's a good way to make headlines and get attention in the short run, but that might be it unless they build a solid following.
They are just saying, we are girls, we are smart, we are fun and we don't need a geeky guy to fix our PC's. I don't think that is hypocritical. I don't think they said anything about Olivia Munn, I think that was all Brian's observation? (I agree by the way)
Listen, I love AMD, and the author of that particular blog has been extremely nice the limited interaction I have had with her, I'm sure it was meant all in good fun, but I could see how some women could take issue with it, and come on guys, if I am saying that? Its a valid rebuttal.
That blog post was one of the most-read posts in AMD blog history. The offended people are missing the point; it's clearly tongue-in-cheek. "Most geeks don't wear pants." SRS BSNS BLOG POST.
Something like this, for instance.
I love that it's all dudes discussing this, btw :)
I mean I guess people are going to call any new group of people in a particular field "hypocrites" for trying to be different. We shared our story about being prompted to start the site by that ridiculous blog post because it portrayed women in the wrong way. Doesn't make us hypocrites for not wanting to sit around and wait for someone else to do it, or to keep watching guys on TV, in the news, etc.
Let's spice it up, no?
these women, even though they are throwing some serious shade at the satirical "lolomgz i'm just a girl i can't work these computarz," are not being hypocritical. it is completely understandable that they are tired of being shoved into one of the very few categories that exist for women in tech in this day and age. they don't want to be portrayed at the ditzy girl who has no tech knowledge, or the slut who gets off on cutting edge devices, or the woman disguised as a man so she can be taken seriously. there is more than enough room for this kind of voice and tone on the internet, and i welcome it! there should be countless shades of gray in between the woman wallowing in her ditzy, old fashioned, know-nothing stereotype and the "there are no girls on the internet" secret woman.
in short: get it, girl.
Olivia Munn for example never tried to claim she was tech savy. She just plays the geek chick cuz she finds it to be fun and personally speaking I find her both a) hot and b) entertaining. I don't watch her to trust her opinions on hardware that's not her purpose nor what she's ever pretended to do.
what i was trying to say before is that there are more ways to come at this than "we are girls on the internet teehee!" and "we are supar srs tech journalists with no sex organs." sexuality and gender is more than an analog switch, and there can be many different degrees that they can color and affect information and conversation.
a lovely and gracious offer, but i'ma have to decline. i'm bookmarking your website, and i look forward to all sorts of awesome content!
I would still love to have Leslie on our show, and happy to have a techy convo with her and anyone else any time... but I'll mow my own lawn, thanks ;)
And really... Some guys wear pants??? Damn!
@Kryyst - I am losing you on the "they're hypocritical and are using their girliness to make a buck" argument. I may be wrong, but the Icrontic guys make a pretty decent buck, even though they're not quite as, ehem, pretty ;) (SOOOOORRRY BRIAN!!!!)
I think you're misinterpreting our "shtik" so let me attempt to clarify: Yeah, we're all girls, yeah, we are all in tech and love tech and breathe tech and bore people to death with convos most of our friends don't care about. We're also really good friends and have a blast when we're all together (mainly at tech conventions).
We thought it would be rather cool to bottle a bit of that fun and enthusiasm and spill it out on our own blog, because, hell, why not? Can we not have a blog? Would it be less hypocritical of us to not have one? What makes you guys who start blogs based on shared passions less hypocritical than us 4 girls?
And because we're girls, who have hypocritically started our own blog, would you suggest that the right thing to do is not sell ads or sponsorships like normal male blogs, because obviously we'd just be selling sex and nothing else remotely worthwhile? I'm interested to know! Should we "know our place" in the tech world and just settle for enough chump change from Google adsense to do our hair and nails?
As for "dissing" other women in tech... where would anyone ever get that idea???? Firstly, there are so few... we always breathe a sigh of relief when we walk into a conference and find other pleasant smelling creatures wearing matching socks(AND PANTS THRAX! Lol.)
Indeed, we're asking every girl we know in this industry to come join the fun and vlog with us! And guys too... cause we're not exclusive or hypocritical like that. Consider it an invitation... Want to do vids with us?? Let's set it up. We're passionate fun girls... we're here to have a good time doing our real jobs (which are in tech) and AroundThe.Net is pure bonus for all of us. If you have something to bring to our table... bring it!
Oh, and @Cliff - You're awesome dude, and a good mate! Hope you and Brian will join us for a beer sometime soon ;) @Gargoyle... you too buddy!
I wouldn't ever assume anyone was a 'transparent fake' (not sure I even know the criteria for that!) just like I wouldn't assume anyone was being hypocritical for opening a fun blog with their friends :P but yeah, I kinda get where you were going with that now, mate. But rest assured, none of the girls at ATN are in any way snobby or mean to anyone... male or female. We're a pretty nice, open, fun bunch! And if you dig us and our site, coolio, if not, c'est la vie, different strokes for different folks and all ;)
If you were just 4 guys setting up a tech site, none of us would have been having this conversation. To this thread the fact that you are girls is more relevant then the fact that you are doing a tech site. I'd seriously even doubt if Prime would have even linked to it otherwise...
Plus like I said earlier - slow day and had nothing better to do.
I dunno, I'd link to any of my mates if they were starting a new blog... regardless of gender!
and...dude.... "nothing better to do"??? - start a blog ;)