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Gabe Newell speaks on Valve's surprising development process

CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ, Event Organizer, D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Writer, Expo Attendee
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  • IvanIvan Icrontic’s Loveable Bot
  • CantiCanti Member
    No one tells Valve what to do, not even Valve. That's smart.
  • Troll free since 2003, that's Pro-Praganda since 2003. Just another Label to stifle "Freedom of Speech". The TRUTH is, Americans are no MORE Free than Cuba or any others 3rd world country. If you say something, the Political/Social/Ecomonical forces dont like, your Labeled a Troll, very "Ambiguous Term" in general.
  • shwaipshwaip Community Leader, Writer
    what
  • GargoyleGargoyle We can't stop here... Community Leader, Supporter
    Resisting urge to hijack thread.

    Nice article, CB. :thumbsup: Who'd a thunk a developer's life could be so open? Wonder if they still have crunch time in Valve time.
  • KwitkoKwitko Retired Sheriff of Banning Community Leader, Supporter
    ManAnimalX said:
    Troll free since 2003, that's Pro-Praganda since 2003. Just another Label to stifle "Freedom of Speech". The TRUTH is, Americans are no MORE Free than Cuba or any others 3rd world country. If you say something, the Political/Social/Ecomonical forces dont like, your Labeled a Troll, very "Ambiguous Term" in general.
    Troll
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach! Event Organizer, Supporter, Gaming Leader, Writer, Folding@Home Leader, Expo Attendee
    Also resisting the meta-troll. Thanks for the writeup ... very cool insight into a great studio
  • ButtersButters Phat Rat Member, Supporter
    Careful CB. Your good article might be hijacked and used elsewhere. Other sites might copy it and the headline may read:

    Half-Life 2: Episode 3 won't be released due to Valve's socialist development process.
  • WinfreyWinfrey Oprah's Cousin Member, Supporter
    Kudos to ManAnimalX for having the courage to remove all doubt of his insanity.
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Fashion Police, Complex Hierarchy Interpreter, Community Leader, D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Dance Commander, Official Rep, Expo Attendee
    ManAnimalX said:
    Troll free since 2003, that's Pro-Praganda since 2003. Just another Label to stifle "Freedom of Speech". The TRUTH is, Americans are no MORE Free than Cuba or any others 3rd world country. If you say something, the Political/Social/Ecomonical forces dont like, your Labeled a Troll, very "Ambiguous Term" in general.
    Tell me more.
  • KwitkoKwitko Retired Sheriff of Banning Community Leader, Supporter
    So Thrax, are you the political, social, or economic force here at Icrontic?
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm The Photographer Member, Supporter
    I will pick nits. I was going to start with "not to nitpick," but let's be honest, that's what I'm going to do. I will apologize for it, however. It comes solely from me being an actual living, breathing socialist now.

    This sounds more anarchical than it does socialist, no? Socialism is where the government does dictate something and everybody benefits. This sounds more like "everybody do what you want."

    Regardless, it makes me incredibly sad that HL2:Ep3 may never come. As the years tick by, it only makes it less and less likely to happen, given that new hires (younger folks) won't have the same strong feelings about it that many of us do. On the other hand, maybe they will.

    I wish Gabe'd just lay down the law once to get it done, though.
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach! Event Organizer, Supporter, Gaming Leader, Writer, Folding@Home Leader, Expo Attendee
    Butters said:
    Careful CB. Your good article might be hijacked and used elsewhere. Other sites might copy it and the headline may read:

    Half-Life 2: Episode 3 won't be released due to Valve's socialist development process.
    Tonight's headline on FOX news
  • primesuspectprimesuspect The Curator of Delightful Experiences Admin, D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Expo Attendee
    ManAnimalX said:
    Troll free since 2003, that's Pro-Praganda since 2003. Just another Label to stifle "Freedom of Speech". The TRUTH is, Americans are no MORE Free than Cuba or any others 3rd world country. If you say something, the Political/Social/Ecomonical forces dont like, your Labeled a Troll, very "Ambiguous Term" in general.
    What is this I don't even
  • CantiCanti Member
    Since they already believe video games will make you a rapist that should be interesting. Torn between their hatred of socialism and video games who will they claim is the bad guy?
  • colacola Member, Expo Attendee
    I believe he's reefering to the small note next to the add comment button in the first part, and then is going off on some sort of crazy.
  • The "political/social/economic forces"? That's your enemy? How paranoi...erm, ambiguous of you! ManAnimalX is what you get when someone takes three semesters at a community college and then drops out--pseudointellectual dribble.
  • DdogDdog Guest
    Uhh, yeah, so this is all fine and dandy, I'm glad they have a nice comfy work environment where everyone gets to work on what they want.. But I gotta say, they left us on QUITE a cliffhanger with HL2: Episode 2.... I should hope that they at least plan on finishing that out...... right?

    Pretty please??
  • KoreishKoreish Writer
    Did ManAnimalX just combine three different thoughts into one mega mind blowing thought?
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach! Event Organizer, Supporter, Gaming Leader, Writer, Folding@Home Leader, Expo Attendee
    Inception
  • Come on guys, this is spin. Gabe Newell is a smart guy, he is not going to come right out and say Half Life 2 Episode 3 is a lower priority because the prior episodic content sold more poorly than they had hoped. Most people got it as part of the Orange Box. Half Life 2 sold at about four times the pace of the episodic content though it cost significantly more. Gamers just don't like the episodic marketing model, so thats that.....

    Any company that lets its employees make all the decisions is screwed. Come on, nobody believes this. Its all spin for... The Half Life episodic content did not sell as well as planed so we are not making another episode.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx The Dean of Computer Graphics Community Leader, Supporter, Writer, Official Rep, Sonic
    No, it makes sense. No company in their right mind would dump the kind of time and dedication into delivering FREE content for one game like Valve has for TF2. It is absolute madness, but it has worked for them against all odds. The game still sells, nearly four years post-release. Valve isn't screwed because of this unique model - they're everything but.

    But even I am starting to believe that we will never see a proper return to HL2. We've been waiting too long with too little information. The game clearly is a lower priority to the studio at this point. Valve should be making noise about it, getting people excited, but they simply aren't bothering. They have Steam, TF2, L4D.... all these properties and platforms that are exploding right now making huge bank. Valve is still a small company, and they've clearly shifted their focus to these other projects. It makes sense from a business standpoint, and Gabe is a shrewd businessman.
  • ThraxThrax Professional Shill, Fashion Police, Complex Hierarchy Interpreter, Community Leader, D&D Supernerd, Supporter, Dance Commander, Official Rep, Expo Attendee
    (Insert Canti-Bobby-Gabe-Valve-HL2EP3-rage comic here)
  • It would be awesome if all game studios could do what Valve does, take the time Valve does on each game. The thing is, it's not good business. Valve is an exception because they have Steam bringing in revenue while they can be creating virtually free content for games like TF2. You can't have multiple Steams, especially for each company. It just wouldn't work. Other studios need to sell games to make money to put out the next one. Valve just sells them while working on their own projects on the side.
  • BandrikBandrik I love golllllld! Supporter, Writer, Expo Attendee
    The real source of why Half-Life 2: Episode III has lost favor at Valve:

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    <3 you Lynx.
  • GargoyleGargoyle We can't stop here... Community Leader, Supporter
    I'm just going to have to accept that this will be in my head the rest of the night, I guess. Thanks.



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