Since Bulldozer is obviously eminent and my motherboard manufacturer is starting to roll out BIOS updates to accommodate AM3+ on my old AM3 socket, lets have a serious discussion about the want vs. need of swapping out my motherboard to accommodate the new FX processors.
I know that the AM3+ has some optimization in regards to power management that an AM3 socket with a BIOS flash will not necessarily accommodate. What are the other differences if any? What would a user that opts to flash their older AM3 board be missing vs. someone who goes the whole nine yards and puts one of these sexy new CPU's on an AM3+ board?
Approximately $170 and a dirty look from my wife hangs in the balance.....
I'm a moron, I thought yesterday was the 11th so I was gonna stay up till midnight to see if I could catch some launch reviews before bed. Made it to 11:30 before I realized it was about to turn the 11th :bang head
Except with Bulldozer, cores can be turned on and off in sets of two. TurboCORE has also been expanded to include frequency boosts for all cores being active. I believe per-module (2x cores) voltage adjustment has also been added, but don't quote me on that.
Except with Bulldozer, cores can be turned on and off in sets of two. TurboCORE has also been expanded to include frequency boosts for all cores being active. I believe per-module (2x cores) voltage adjustment has also been added, but don't quote me on that.
why not just run all 8 cores at the max speed all the time and include a water cooling kit with the FXs
oh those where just the two most mentioned in rumors. I knew when you said "neither" that you weren't denying water coolers with the FXs
Guess we'll find out soon how much more (if any) the water coooled FX's cost and if it's just a limited release, stock for the 8150, or just some AMD crazyness
Lotta reviewers around the net having problems reaching those sortsa numbers, or haven't figured out how to do the dual core thang yet. 4.6-4.7 seems to be the magic number. At a HUGENORMOUS (that's right, I said it!) power cost, relative to its competitors. I'm not much of a 'green' but neither am I thrilled when I pay the power bill every month.
Lotta reviewers around the net having problems reaching those sortsa numbers, or haven't figured out how to do the dual core thang yet. 4.6-4.7 seems to be the magic number. At a HUGENORMOUS (that's right, I said it!) power cost, relative to its competitors. I'm not much of a 'green' but neither am I thrilled when I pay the power bill every month.
Dual core isn't that difficult. It's all done in the UEFI, and there's an easy-to-find menu option for it. Many motherboards have had this capability for years - ever since the first "unlockable" triple core systems.
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i was comparing it to k10, and why it had lower performance.
this might be the issue and fix is via a patch, http://bit.ly/qs7e03
But, but..... I'll do anything!
Cool story bro
I heard you have a cool story, too.
I know that the AM3+ has some optimization in regards to power management that an AM3 socket with a BIOS flash will not necessarily accommodate. What are the other differences if any? What would a user that opts to flash their older AM3 board be missing vs. someone who goes the whole nine yards and puts one of these sexy new CPU's on an AM3+ board?
Approximately $170 and a dirty look from my wife
Here is the quote of the day ...
Convince AMD to remake the Sledgehammer core with new tech and I will buy an entire tray! Go! Go!
It disables idle cores to maintain the stock TDP while overclocking the active cores.
You can disable it and just straight overclock it to run full out all the time. I did this with my Phenom II X6.
so instead of C1E like on intel and lowering the frequency on all cores it just turns off cores not being used?
Except with Bulldozer, cores can be turned on and off in sets of two. TurboCORE has also been expanded to include frequency boosts for all cores being active. I believe per-module (2x cores) voltage adjustment has also been added, but don't quote me on that.
why not just run all 8 cores at the max speed all the time and include a water cooling kit with the FXs
....oh wait
Thanks for the link
oh those where just the two most mentioned in rumors. I knew when you said "neither" that you weren't denying water coolers with the FXs
Guess we'll find out soon how much more (if any) the water coooled FX's cost and if it's just a limited release, stock for the 8150, or just some AMD crazyness
Since Corsair and Antec does not manufacture water cooler kits either
Hey, that looks just like the package that showed up at my doorstep!
$345 for FX8150 CPU w/ Watercooling Kit. Asetek
Dual core isn't that difficult. It's all done in the UEFI, and there's an easy-to-find menu option for it. Many motherboards have had this capability for years - ever since the first "unlockable" triple core systems.