Defining Server Rules

Ivan · Jan 2012

BlackHawk · Jan 2012

I'm going to suggest TeamSpeak and TeamSync. Everyone connects to presumably our TeamSpeak server and it'll automagically move you to a channel based on your team or squad. The TeamSync part is server side I believe. A godsend on some pub servers I've played on.

boasist · Jan 2012

I added the icrontic.com/bf3 message, so can someone update that page to include our scheduled times?

Looking good elsewhere though. Thanks

boasist · Feb 2012

So anything get finalized? I'd like to implement a few things on the server and want to see what the end result is here.

Thanks.

boasist · Feb 2012

Hmmmmm

QCH · Feb 2012

What are we waiting on?

boasist · Feb 2012

Just an organized list and we should be in good shape.

pigflipper · Feb 2012

Just an organized list and we should be in good shape.

Good luck with that, lol.

Tushon · Feb 2012

From this thread:

No base camping / shooting into uncap (possible out if they are shooting at you from uncap and not leaving)/ other versions of this (1st warning, then kick, repeat, ban)
Auto-hacking kick/bans/report to PB or whoever is appropriate
mortar hacks (including mortar from uncap?)
wall hacks/glitching
TK's should be warning, kick, repeat ban

Should semi-define griefing

Need to decide on a map rotation, definitely stay off the large maps for our server size (looks like Conquest Small rotation was decided between NiGHTS and Cannon)

Vent: I don't know if there was a definitive answer to being able to listen to multiple channels or not, but we definitely can trasmit to a squad and team channel via different hot keys (could easily write up a guide to that). TeamSync was suggested but is only functional with TeamSpeak and Mumble

pigflipper · Feb 2012

Defining "griefing" is going to be difficult and I suggest we just give a few baselines for admins to apply at their discretion:

1. Intentionally causing a problem/exploiting a glitch in order to ruin the gameplay experience of other players: Warn, kick, ban (on repeat)
2. Intentional Team Killing: Warn, kick, ban (on repeat)
3. Destroying vehicles in your spawn: Warn, kick, ban (on repeat)
4. Being a douchnozzle in general: Warn, random spawn in mid air, general admin abuse, kick, ban (on repeat)
4a. This includes heckling, intentionally offensive language, taking a vehicle without picking up people who are asking for rides, intentionally crashing vehicles just to keep others from using them, Prag when he is sniping, etc.

Since a lot of this is up to the Admin's discretion, the other admins need to keep an eye out and help self police everything (not I have any experience with this or anything *cough* super invincible scout Canti in TF2 *cough*). I also think it should be required that anybody with Admin Access of any sort have mandatory presence on Vent when playing; this will facilitate better communications between those with admin powers.

Sp00nman · Feb 2012

I think all these excessive rules are a little, well, excessive. Just play. If it takes all the "fun" out of playing, people will play elsewhere. Who has the time - or in my case, money - to monitor all of the players on this server? I'm certainly not going to pay for that as well.

If boasist can automate some of these things, great! But be realistic, no one has the time to sit around and wait for players to come on and then monitor them. With an average of 5 people playing in the month of February, it's kind of silly.

Spoon

primesuspect · Feb 2012

The model we've used for years (successfully) with the TF2 server are this:

Three rules:

1) We ban jerks
2) Only jerks use slurs and demean others
3) Using porn sprays or exploits is a jerk thing to do

It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. When you have people that you really trust, give them the ability to ban jerks. You don't need to set rules at all; just empower the people you trust to make the server the kind of server that it should be. It's not like you're going to explain why you banned someone for calling someone else a faggot or a nigger. That person isn't going to appeal to you. Just ban and keep playing. Rules? Like @sp00nman says, it's just way too excessive.

Tushon · Feb 2012

I think defining the rules is useful from the admin side to know what they should be calling out. The rules that we present to the user base can be the simple ones, with warning and reasoning presented by admins as needed

pigflipper · Feb 2012

@Primesuspect the dickwads and assholes in BF3 make TF2 look like teh lulz. The rules we used for TF2 don't really have a translation for BF3, the game is much more complex and the definitions of being an ass hat so loose and broad that we need more indepth guidelines.

primesuspect · Feb 2012

My point is: You can sit there and define granularity of rules all day, but in the end, it's way, WAY easier and more efficient to just have moderators make the distinction and empower them to deal with it.

boasist · May 2012

so much qq because you guys were getting pwned by the dart, or was it worse than that?

QCH · May 2012

Dart is a bit overpowered and the guy was really good too. The mix made it very annoying. I would be less ticked off if it was a noob and the guy wasn't tipping the balance with just the dart. This guy didn't need the dart. He had over 15 consecutive kills several times. After he switched, he was still getting 5 kill streaks.

boasist · May 2012

Ahh, I can see that he does have a high killstreak now, ahh lovely information. I wonder if this is how google felt when they started.

http://www.division-g.com/bf3stats/players.php

pigflipper · May 2012

Dart is currently one hit kill at pretty much any range, lots of servers have made using it an instant ban.

Tushon · May 2012

I've got procon, so if we run into it again, we can warn/kick/ban if needed.

boasist · May 2012

That's pretty ridiculous to ban for using stock items.

Tushon · May 2012

Didn't mean I would (shoulda just left it with warn/kick), but if it is broken (and it certainly seemed to be ...) it is worth looking at. Like you saw, going from 15 kill streaks due to using that item to 5 ... something is up.

boasist · May 2012

Yeah, if you suspect hacking/foul play, first make fun of his mother, sister, then kick. If he come back, ban.*

* = not really.

Tushon · May 2012

That is the order I usually proceed through life in:

*Waiter brings me my food*
Me *mark walhberg*: say hello to your mother for me
Waiter: ... wut?

QCH · May 2012

I watched a video of a guy stating that it is way overpowered... he got two kills at about 50 yards without aiming. He then swung around a corner and guy across the river was there, he fired and KILL. It's like damage of the auto shotgun being fired at close range but it can knock out a guy at 5-10 times the distance. I think I read that the darts each have, like, half the power of a normal round so you figure there a crap load of darts being shot out so just hitting with 3 darts is a lot of damage and because it spreads out, it can take out multiple with one or two shots.

boasist · May 2012

I've killed people in there before, they tend to snap up once you kill them and ruin their ratio.

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