I'm sure you can find the same pump under different names. Laing is very hard to beat IMO.
In a closed loop you should have little to no evaporation, therefore there should be little to no need for a reservoir. If you do use a reservoir however, absolutely do not route your loop into it as this will restrict the flow. Rather, you should "T" off to the reservoir. This way the extra fluid will only contribute to the loop as needed.
At any rate, the line that you use to tee off to the reservoir should suffice enough for a reservoir itself and will replenish fluid as needed just the same. On the end of the reservoir hose you can cap it easily with a fillport like this. It will make filling and draining a breeze also.
Here is an older video that shows excellent technique in assembling a watercooling setup. Notice how the fill tube is off of a "T" fitting and thus is not in the flow loop. This is essential for good performance.
Filling the loop with coolant and working out the bubbles. I don't use this technique, I just flip the case and let the bubbles rise to the "T" and out of the fillport, but this video is pretty helpful in showing how to remove bubbles. Just jump your PSU so that you don't actually put power to any other components except for the pump.
Oh yeah, don't mix metals in the loop, it will cause corrosion quickly.
So I need to find a pump that uses copper instead of aluminum?
Only if it contacts the fluid. Lots of pumps use delrin and similar plastics. If you have all like metals in the loop you won't have to worry about galvanic corrosion, at least not for a long time. Most people go with copper because most radiators are constructed of copper.
In a watercooling system your enemies are galvanic corrosion, air bubbles (especially the ones that are unseen in the block and rad), and algae. Know your enemies and how to avoid them.
Open it a check the impeller area. Typically the only components to contact the fluid are then inner housing and the impeller. Impellers are typically delrin/plasic nowdays however, a center fastener screw head may be a culprit. Usually if there is a review of the pump the review will check for stuff like that.
http://www.swiftech.com/mcp655.aspx "WARNING - CUSTOM TOP VOIDS WARRENTY Nader Shehata(Miami, FL)9/19/2011 11:41 PM WARNING - CUSTOM TOP VOIDS WARRENTY my brand new pump died after a few hours of use and because i used a custom top(XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir ) , swiftech would'nt warrenty it and i lost $104"
Notice any similarities between the swiftech pump you refer to and the dangerden I linked to? The only difference is that the swiftech is variable speed whereas mine is fixed. The varaible speed version is available but it has been recommended to run these pumps full speed. My current laing pump is variable speed and I have never run it at anything other than full speed.
Last night when I was surfing for information I came across an external radiator mounting bracket kit that I cannot find today. If you have a clue of what I'm talking about please let me know ...this has been making me insane all morning.
The clip shows the brackets being used either on the back or top of the case.
Honestly, the Enzotech Sapphire SCW Rev.A was a fluke of a great performer for both flow and temps. It was the only block I would own from them frankly.
mertesn
Icrontic Duke of Haxor Community Leader, Supporter, Writer, Expo Attendee
Update:
I had to switch to the Intel system because the AMD system was being a PITA with overclocking. Of course without looking at the XSPC Rasa to see if it was compatible (it is as I found out later), I ordered the XSPC Raystorm. Reviews say it should perform even better, so I'm ok with that.
Finally got the build started, and learned the only real problem part is the reservoir - it's two bays tall, but my case has metal runners between the bays making it impossible to fit without cutting the case...which I don't want to do. I've instead settled on the Aquacomputer Aquabox Professional 5.25" bay reservoir. It'll fit in a single bay and still looks good.
Once the part comes in I'll be able to finish the build.
mertesn
Icrontic Duke of Haxor Community Leader, Supporter, Writer, Expo Attendee
Found another issue. The pump uses 3/8" connections. I have 1/2" barbs :shake: I'm sure it's better to switch out to 3/8" tubing and barbs to match the pump, but would there be any harm in using 1/2" -> 3/8" reducers?
Pressure load on tubing would decrease some with input being smaller than flow size, but so would flow volume. Other than that, probably not going the way you want to go. 3/8 connector, short piece of 3/8 tube, 3/8 to 1/2 step up adapter/reducer reversed, and then main flow 1/2" tube would be safest way to adapt. Pump might run a bit more if it is pressure switch controlled though.
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http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd12v-d5_pump-fixed-speed-by-laing.html
I'm sure you can find the same pump under different names. Laing is very hard to beat IMO.
In a closed loop you should have little to no evaporation, therefore there should be little to no need for a reservoir. If you do use a reservoir however, absolutely do not route your loop into it as this will restrict the flow. Rather, you should "T" off to the reservoir. This way the extra fluid will only contribute to the loop as needed.
At any rate, the line that you use to tee off to the reservoir should suffice enough for a reservoir itself and will replenish fluid as needed just the same. On the end of the reservoir hose you can cap it easily with a fillport like this. It will make filling and draining a breeze also.
http://www.dangerden.com/store/delrin-fillport.html
Here is an older video that shows excellent technique in assembling a watercooling setup. Notice how the fill tube is off of a "T" fitting and thus is not in the flow loop. This is essential for good performance.
http://www.dangerden.com/Videos/system-install-part-2.html
Filling the loop with coolant and working out the bubbles. I don't use this technique, I just flip the case and let the bubbles rise to the "T" and out of the fillport, but this video is pretty helpful in showing how to remove bubbles. Just jump your PSU so that you don't actually put power to any other components except for the pump.
http://www.dangerden.com/Videos/fill-a-system-with-coolant.html
Oh yeah, don't mix metals in the loop, it will cause corrosion quickly.
Lots of pumps use delrin and similar plastics. If you have all like metals in the loop you won't have to worry about galvanic corrosion, at least not for a long time. Most people go with copper because most radiators are constructed of copper.
"Dissimilar metal corrosion is well known to most designers, specifiers and fabricators, but often the only rule in force is 'don't mix metals'." Excerpt http://www.corrosionist.com/dissimilar_metal_corrosion.htm
In a watercooling system your enemies are galvanic corrosion, air bubbles (especially the ones that are unseen in the block and rad), and algae. Know your enemies and how to avoid them.
The two frontrunners right now for a pump/reservoir combo are these two:
Koolance single bay with Koolance PMP-400 pump
FrozenQ Liquid Fusion Dual Bay Reservoir w/ Swiftech MCP655 Series Pump Installed
Any ideas whether these are safe?
Rad of choice - http://www.dangerden.com/store/black-ice-gtx420-xtreme.html
Block of choice - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708019&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4003003&SID=3y0me0oe991s
Here is a nice radiator just for reference - http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1433.html
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=334
"•Wetted Materials: PPO, Carbon/Allumina Ceramic, EPDM or Viton, 316 SS or Plastic."
http://www.swiftech.com/mcp655.aspx
"WARNING - CUSTOM TOP VOIDS WARRENTY
Nader Shehata(Miami, FL)9/19/2011 11:41 PM
WARNING - CUSTOM TOP VOIDS WARRENTY my brand new pump died after a few hours of use and because i used a custom top(XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir ) , swiftech would'nt warrenty it and i lost $104"
Notice any similarities between the swiftech pump you refer to and the dangerden I linked to? The only difference is that the swiftech is variable speed whereas mine is fixed. The varaible speed version is available but it has been recommended to run these pumps full speed. My current laing pump is variable speed and I have never run it at anything other than full speed.
http://www.overclock.net/t/934512/martins-koolance-rp-402x2-rp-452x2-drivebay-pump-living-review-video
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?279177-A-Review-of-the-New-Koolance-452X2-Revision-2.0-Reservoir
Koolance 3x140mm Reservoir
Enzotech SCW-Rev.A CPU block
Tygon R-3603 7/16" ID tubing
Phobya Acrylic dual 5.25" bay reservoir
Danger Den/Laing DDC Rev 3.25 pump
Everything look good?
The clip shows the brackets being used either on the back or top of the case.
Sorry for the highjack Mert.
I'm looking at the Enzotech LUNA as a possible replacement. FrozenCPU also recommended the XSPC Rasa as an alternative.
Thoughts? I prefer the looks of the Luna, but I'm more concerned with good performance than appearances.
I would go with the XSPC Rasa ...might be a fluke too but it performs well.
http://www.overclock.net/t/749693/review-22-cpu-waterblocks-tested-roundup
I had to switch to the Intel system because the AMD system was being a PITA with overclocking. Of course without looking at the XSPC Rasa to see if it was compatible (it is as I found out later), I ordered the XSPC Raystorm. Reviews say it should perform even better, so I'm ok with that.
Finally got the build started, and learned the only real problem part is the reservoir - it's two bays tall, but my case has metal runners between the bays making it impossible to fit without cutting the case...which I don't want to do. I've instead settled on the Aquacomputer Aquabox Professional 5.25" bay reservoir. It'll fit in a single bay and still looks good.
Once the part comes in I'll be able to finish the build.
I'm sure it's better to switch out to 3/8" tubing and barbs to match the pump, but would there be any harm in using 1/2" -> 3/8" reducers?
Edit: Based on other fluid systems for non-computer based cooling.