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The Keto diet

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  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Orange, CA Icrontian
    edited Mar 2012
    Why do people get pissy about this? What part of

    MOAR CHEESE FOR YOU

    is a bad thing? I'm not trying to ban cheese, for gouda's sake!
    I'm not pissy, I am a foodie. Or, as CB puts it, I am a bread-and-cheese-itarian.

    Cheese is the farthest thing from culinary spackle; cheese is worthy of its on food group, in fact.

    This is my homage to fromage: a good cheese, or selection thereof, can replace any course of a meal. It is something to be savored. Cheese is more delicious than even the chocolatiest of desserts.

    On top of that, cheese is the perfect keto food. Almost no carbs, nice and fatty, and some protein.

    The 'food' industry uses HFCS as you describe cheese. Adding more HFCS to a processed item covers up the item's inherent shittiness of flavor because the human physiology is programmed to hoard anything with sugar.

  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    @RyanMM, the oldest young man I know.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    No one is pissy, I think, we just want to make sure you understand how completely wrong you are about cheese.
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian
    When I get out of work, I'm going home, unwrapping the extra sharp cheddar I got yesterday, cutting myself off a big hunk of it and going to town. It will be glorious.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    I would love to do a cheese tasting at Expo.
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Not as tall as Bobby Tallbeer. Twilight Sparkle is overrated. Meechigan Icrontian
    So game for that.

    Good stuff, too. I got some unpasteurized sheep's milk gruyere at Whole Foods once. It was 1000% amazing.
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    The 'food' industry uses HFCS as you describe cheese. Adding more HFCS to a processed item covers up the item's inherent shittiness of flavor because the human physiology is programmed to hoard anything with sugar.
    Also, actually ESPECIALLY, MSG.

  • WagsFTWWagsFTW Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    I would love to do a cheese tasting at Expo.
    IN
  • WagsFTWWagsFTW Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    Betsy and I frequently make an easy meal we call 'taco boats'.

    Cut a couple bell peppers in half, fill with taco stuff (we just use taco spiced chicken and onions), top with cheese, bake at 350 for about ten minutes, broil for the last couple minutes for browned cheese.

    If you skip the cheese, also skip the broil, and cover them with something else or the meat will dry out a bit on top.

    We like this so much, and it's so easy to make, we have it at least once a week.
    Something else that is good and similar to this, is to use zucchini cored out as the boats, with taco meat inside and baked. Delicious!
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Dallas Icrontian
    I have put together a wine and cheese tasting before and could do so for EPIC ... though the wine isn't keto
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Not as tall as Bobby Tallbeer. Twilight Sparkle is overrated. Meechigan Icrontian
    By EPIC, I will be off of keto.
  • RyanMMRyanMM Ferndale, MI Icrontian
    @RyanMM, the oldest young man I know.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!
    I wish this forum supported the "Like this post" feature so I could like the hell out of that. ;)
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited Mar 2012
    Ryan Macho Man's only fear is cheese.
  • CrazyJoeCrazyJoe Winter Springs, FL Icrontian
    I would love to do a cheese tasting at Expo.
    I am also in!!
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    It's official. I've lost 50 pounds. :)
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Not as tall as Bobby Tallbeer. Twilight Sparkle is overrated. Meechigan Icrontian
    Too awesome. :clap: :rockon:
  • RyanMMRyanMM Ferndale, MI Icrontian
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    Congrats, buddy! Few people can ever say that, and considering how long I know we've both battled with our weight, it is quite an accomplishment on many fronts.
  • WattyzWattyz Michigan Member
    Goooooo Brian!
  • LazarusXeroLazarusXero Illinois Member
    Congratulations!!! Keep it up and I won't recognize you at Expo
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Punta Gorda, FL Icrontian
    Congrats, Brian! I will have to get myself into better shape with that example to motivate me!
  • WagsFTWWagsFTW Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    Congrats. Very exciting. :)
  • WattyzWattyz Michigan Member
    edited Mar 2012
    For some reason, this made me think of posting it here.

  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ @TheButterflyman Icrontian
    so unrealistic.... Who would put Nolan's cheddar out on a trap?
  • RyanMMRyanMM Ferndale, MI Icrontian
    I dunno if this is common knowledge, but I just saw Drew Carey for the first time in a few years and was shocked at how much weight he lost. Apparently, I'm pretty out of date because he did this back in 2010 with a fairly keto-sounding diet.

    http://www.newser.com/story/96906/how-drew-carey-lost-80-pounds.html
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Orange, CA Icrontian
    Brian, did you intentionally decide to start looking like John Peters, or is that just a coincidence?
  • RyanMMRyanMM Ferndale, MI Icrontian
    Has anyone seen this yet? Seems relevant.

  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    Took the month of June off, gained 10 pounds. Wow. Back to it. Been in ketosis for three days now, doing fine.
  • WagsFTWWagsFTW Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    That looks delicious... May try this. It's zucchini season!!!
  • noisyzennoisyzen Detroit Metro
    Hi, my name is Samantha and I like cheese, bacon, and beef jerky.

    Figured I'd come in and join in on the fun since I'm on day 7 of keto (And have lost 4.5lb since Monday. Yes, yes, water weight, I know, but still!) :)

    Maybe y'all will fill the void in my heart that my break-up with simple carbs has left me...
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    (Also, I know her IRL and she's awesome)
  • noisyzennoisyzen Detroit Metro
    edited Jul 2012

    (Also, I know her IRL and she's awesome)

    Aw, shucks. YOU'RE awesome. I'm glad to be here, seriously. I've needed some more community in my life and I think this'll do just the trick. :)

    Edit: (In my excitement, I assumed you meant that last post about me. LOL. Otherwise, accept my apologies and ignore my embarrassment for being an arrogant fool.) ;)
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Baltimore, MD Icrontian
    edited Jul 2013
    I went to the doctor this morning for a planned check up. After a few days of protein loading he suggested I temporarily stop due to stomach history. I have a very acidic system and processing a bunch of amino acids has wreaked havoc on my stomach. He suggested I go high fiber for awhile, burn some fat, then consider ramping my protein gradually after loosing 20 or so pounds of fat. Suggested I eat spinach and kale to PH balance the stomach and if that did not help he could prescribe me a stronger acid blocker.

    Anyone else find this a struggle? When you eat allot of protein, does it take some kind of routine to help balance the PH in your stomach so you don't feel sick? I see the suggestion of spinach and kale, is that kind of consensus for keto dieters, that the greens are necessary to balance things out down there?
  • AlexDeGruvenAlexDeGruven Not as tall as Bobby Tallbeer. Twilight Sparkle is overrated. Meechigan Icrontian
    Keto isn't a whole lot of protein, though. 65% of your intake is fat, and protein intake by bulk is generally pretty close to normal.

    Too much protein can also have kidney repercussions, which is why many high-protein, low-fat diets can be very dangerous.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect HumanGarbageDisposal Detroit, MI Icrontian
    I don't call it the keto diet. I call it the kale diet. Yes. Tons of spinach, tons of kale.
  • ardichokeardichoke Buttes Master B Lansing, MI Icrontian
    Speaking of kale... this is my favorite kale recipe ever. I could easily eat this as a meal in and of itself. Pretty sure it is keto-friendly:

    Kale with Bacon and Cannellini Beans

    3 slice(s) uncooked bacon
    3 clove(s) (medium) garlic clove(s), minced
    1/2 tsp crushed red pepper flakes
    1 cup(s) uncooked onion(s), diced
    1 pound(s) uncooked kale, stemmed, roughly chopped
    1 cup(s) canned chicken broth, or beef broth
    15 oz canned cannellini beans, rinsed and drained
    1 tsp kosher salt
    1 Tbsp balsamic vinegar
    1 tsp sugar, in the raw

    Set a large, heavy pot or skillet over medium heat; add bacon and cook to desired crispness. Remove bacon from pot and set aside; leave bacon drippings in pot.

    Add garlic and red pepper flakes to bacon drippings; cook, stirring, until garlic becomes fragrant, about 30 seconds to 1 minute. Add onion; cook, stirring occasionally, until soft, about 10 minutes. Add kale; cook, stirring occasionally, until it starts to wilt, about 5 to 7 minutes. Add broth; cover and simmer over low heat until kale is just tender, about 8 to 10 minutes. Add beans; simmer, uncovered, until liquid is almost evaporated, about 5 to 7 minutes. Stir in salt, vinegar and sugar; sprinkle with crumbled bacon and serve immediately. Yields about 1 1/4 cups per serving.
    Cliff_Forster
  • JBoogalooJBoogaloo This too shall pass... Virginia...The Northern part Icrontian

    Too much protein can also have kidney repercussions, which is why many high-protein, low-fat diets can be very dangerous.

    Which is why drinking damn near a gallon of water daily is highly recommended ;)
  • bellsbells Not that anyone calls me that Member
    This is awesome! Congratulations on your 50 lbs!! Hopefully your progress is still going strong!
  • RyanMMRyanMM Ferndale, MI Icrontian

    More science. Not a huge sample size, but an interesting study nonetheless.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/health/low-carb-vs-low-fat-diet.html

    LeahVoice
  • maliamalia Sconnie Nation Member
    edited 2 Sep

    I really hate it when media doesn't cite the original study, which is here: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1900694

    For a prospective human study, it is actually a decent sample size - you always want better, but anything with >100 humans is reasonable, so long as you don't try to slice them into too many subgroups, and you randomize and match each group as well as possible. A bigger concern would be that they had people self-report their diets, which is always subject to bias, and do so retroactively, rather than keep dietary notebooks in real time. One notable thing (only because of the title of this thread) was that they did not put the high fat group on a ketogenic diet, only a low carb/low glycemic index diet - they requested the group stay <40g/day carbs, which is about 27-30% of the average calorie intake of the high fat group (remaining was 20% protein; 40% fat), so this really doesn't say as much about "high fat" diets as much as it does about perhaps stepping back from "high-carb" diets to a more even ratio of macronutrients.

    GnomeQueenCannonFodderCBJBoogaloo
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