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tycho
3 Jul 2003, 4:24am
Okay so i want quick time on my computer so that i can watch movie trailers on the apple site every now and then, but the stupid player wants to have itself run in my system tray whenever i startup the computer and i can't figure out how to get it to go away. it isn't in the startup folder and i cannot find a check box or anything in the quick time preferences.

Does anyone know how to get it not to start up in the system tray?

Cyclonite
3 Jul 2003, 4:26am
Go to the Control Panel. Double click the Quicktime Icon. Use the drop down arrow to naviaget to "Browser Plug-in." Uncheck "Quicktime system tray icon."

You should be good to go. :)

primesuspect
3 Jul 2003, 4:29am
check registry hive:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\

or

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\

and see if there's any reference to QuickTime Task or QTTASK and then just delete that entry :)

tycho
3 Jul 2003, 4:30am
mine definitly doesn't have that setting....

primesuspect
3 Jul 2003, 4:31am
Yeah do what I said -- it'll work

tycho
3 Jul 2003, 4:32am
prime - the entry listed as "Quick Time task" ?

edit: i read the rest of your post... never mind here goes

okay thanks, hopefully that rids my computer of that annoyance

WuGgaRoO
3 Jul 2003, 4:47am
i CANNOT stand quicktime..nor can i stan real player

tycho
3 Jul 2003, 4:49am
yeah i really can't stand either of them either but i do like to watch the apple.com movie trailers and quick time is the easiest way

WuGgaRoO
3 Jul 2003, 5:26am
oh no...its homestar runner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tycho
3 Jul 2003, 5:32am
:D

primesuspect
3 Jul 2003, 5:33am
Homestar! I din't know you needed to shave!

shwaip
3 Jul 2003, 5:38am
If you've not gotten it sorted yet, you can also do it thru msconfig.

LIN
3 Jul 2003, 5:43am
Trekky8472 said

Go to the Control Panel. Double click the Quicktime Icon. Use the drop down arrow to naviaget to "Browser Plug-in." Uncheck "Quicktime system tray icon."

You should be good to go. :)

Thanx, Trekky, that's been bothering me for some time now. :)


LIN

primesuspect
3 Jul 2003, 5:44am
one thing tho:

if you check that box, QTTASK is still running in the background, it just doesn't show up in the systray anymore. Deleting the reg key will actually kill it for real.

profdlp
3 Jul 2003, 5:47am
What really frosts me is that many times after watching a quicktime video it will re-insert its mangy self into your startup list. I run msconfig after every time I use it (which is as little as possible).

I would gleefully join any angry mob which was attacking companies that decide that you MUST have their garbage loaded at all times. It's enough to make me want to stay loaded, too.:D


Prof
(When the mob gathers, look for me. I'll be the one sharpening my pitchfork:p )

Cyclonite
3 Jul 2003, 6:05am
I don't care if it's running. I just don't like a cluttered system tray. :)

tycho
3 Jul 2003, 6:23am
yeah prime's method killed it for good on my system

ill be right there behind ya prof... just let me know when this angry mod is starting up

Enverex
3 Jul 2003, 10:51am
Oh, I dont, Its cinnemen :p

QT still annoys me imensely with its `upgrade to quicktime pro` message. NEVER!!.

NS

Cyclonite
3 Jul 2003, 3:19pm
So... "Upgarde to Quicktime Pro." ;)

CaffeineMe
3 Jul 2003, 3:35pm
Real and Quicktime annoy me. I'm not too happy w. WMF files either...any file that requires a proprietary player, UGH! I don't count DOC, XLS and their ilk, their so ubiquitous that's it's not an issue (for me). But media files ought to be portable from one OS/platform to any other. MPEG and AVI, for video, are the shizzle.

Slick
3 Jul 2003, 4:16pm
You can just go to run. Type msconfig, move to startup tab and uncheck the quick time task manager or whatever its called. I also use a program called Regcleaner, I believe it does the equivilant.

Black Hawk
3 Jul 2003, 4:22pm
Removing from msconfig doesn't work for me with Real Player. I remove the registry entry and from msconfig and the damn thing still starts up and has something running :(

Slick
3 Jul 2003, 4:24pm
Just remove realplayer :D. Just playing with you, guess it is really about prefrence.

Black Hawk
3 Jul 2003, 4:25pm
I don't like it. I just use it cause my mom needs it for a specific radio station. :aol:

Enverex
3 Jul 2003, 4:45pm
I use RealOne Player for streaming audio because I feel it is the best one, and it never gives me and hassle or anything, only thing that ever runs is that when I tell it to.

NS

danball1976
4 Jul 2003, 12:21am
At least WinAMP can play Windows Media files, if you get the full version.

drasnor
4 Dec 2003, 5:29am
I've gotten my WinAMP 2.91 install to play everything except .mov files. I can't find a plug-in that implements it (and no, VideoObject doesn't count because it has broken .mov support). Other than that, it interfaces quite nicely with any Video for Windows and DirectShow filters you've installed (XviD, DivX, WMV, MPEG).

I don't think it does Real, but who cares about Real? One less piece of spyware.

-drasnor :fold:

citrixmeta
4 Dec 2003, 5:40am
i use QuickTime Alternative 1.22

works great!

http://www.softrom.ro/11100.asp

drasnor
4 Dec 2003, 6:16am
I've got QT alternative, which gets rid of the annoying Apple crap, but I still can't play .mov in WinAmp. I'm betting that the reason is because WinAmp doesn't understand the .mov container, so I need some sort of parser for it. Unfortunately, all I can find is from 2000 (pre-Winamp 2.x video support) so it implements its own player and conflicts with all my other video hacks and plugs. Anyone know of a .mov parser for WinAmp?

-drasnor :fold:

Dexter
4 Dec 2003, 6:37am
drasnor had this to say
I've got QT alternative, which gets rid of the annoying Apple crap

What Apple crap are you referring to, and why is it so annoying?


Dexter...

Enverex
4 Dec 2003, 12:01pm
Probably the things that keep starting on Startup, that and the "UPGRADE TO QUICKTIME PRO!!!!! message that pisses everyone off so much.

Primes mode of removing it wont work as it will simply add itself to the startup again when you run Quicktime.

NS

drasnor
4 Dec 2003, 4:30pm
NightShade737 had this to say
Probably the things that keep starting on Startup, that and the "UPGRADE TO QUICKTIME PRO!!!!! message that pisses everyone off so much.

Exactly.

-drasnor :fold:

RWB
4 Dec 2003, 4:47pm
I have quicktime pro, it does a WHOLE lot of cool stuff! I love Quicktime! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!

croc_
4 Dec 2003, 4:47pm
NightShade737 had this to say

QT still annoys me imensely with its `upgrade to quicktime pro` message. NEVER!!.

NS

I second that NEVER!!

gtghm
4 Dec 2003, 5:37pm
RWB had this to say
I have quicktime pro, it does a WHOLE lot of cool stuff! I love Quicktime! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME! QUICKTIME!

I agree...

QuickTime Rocks!

It is undoubtly the best/highest quality playback of video on the web today... Every other player I have seen shows some signs of blurryness or artifacting...
Every version of QT that I have used so far has a setting somewhere to remove it from your tray... I admit that it is getting harder to find but it is there...
I can understand the non-clutter thing but QT is still the best.

"g"

croc_
4 Dec 2003, 6:06pm
citrixmeta had this to say
i use QuickTime Alternative 1.22

works great!

http://www.softrom.ro/11100.asp

hmm doesn't work for me, have another link?

Enverex
4 Dec 2003, 6:14pm
http://fe6.edskes.com/quicktimealt122.exe

NS

Dexter
4 Dec 2003, 6:22pm
NightShade737 had this to say
Probably the things that keep starting on Startup, that and the "UPGRADE TO QUICKTIME PRO!!!!! message that pisses everyone off so much.

NS

Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.

Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?

How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?

Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.

Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.

I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.

If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?

If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.

:)

Dexter...

drasnor
4 Dec 2003, 7:56pm
Dexter had this to say
Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.

No. The built-in Windows XP .zip comression support suffices for now. I'm thinking about purchasing a license, because it is an awesome piece of software.

Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?

Negative. I use Avant Browser, an awesome freeware frontend for Internet Explorer that integrates pop-up blocking and tabbed browsing so I don't have to replace IE in my shell.

How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?

Nope. And the pop-ups are exactly why, besides the fact that it consumes significant system resources. My folks tried to install it on my P1, and it brought that system to its knees and created a missing .dll error every time it boots. I'm going to have to reinstall Windows, because I can't fix the .dll error in the registry.

Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.

That's why RealPlayer sucks. WinAmp is my media player of choice, and its freeware without nags. It also has a hell of a lot more functionality, as it can not only playback every audio format I know of through plugins but also every video format except DVD and .mov, and they're working on DVD. I can also export any audio it can playback to any format I have plugin support for. Right now I've installed LAME VBR .MP3, Ogg Vorbis, .WMA, and .WAV

Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.

I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.

That's nice. I also figured out how to disable the system tray icon, but the upgrade message is intolerable. Not everyone needs a fully featured encoder, so why can't they accept that some people want decode only and leave them in peace?

If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?

Honestly, I'm fairly certain that many online media distributors get a cut from Apple for using their format. XviD is freeware, has higher quality, and packs smaller than QuickTime's Sorenson3. If you insist on paying money for your codecs rather than going Open Source, DivX does almost the same thing. Both can be used with any MP4-compliant container. The Xenosaga II trailer (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/xeno/xenosaga2/xenosaga2mov.html) is an excellent example of this. Which would you prefer, the 45MB file with awesome video and audio or the 85MB file with crappy video and worse audio?

If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.
I love Mac's, but I hate Apple. I own three Mac's now, and my favorite is the Mac clone. It does everything the others do, only fits in an industry-standard chassis and works with industry-standard components. There's just something I like about the phrase "industry standard". My wallet likes it too.

To be fair, QuickTime wouldn't be at all so bad if it didn't just plain suck as far as quality is concerned. I'm only looking for a parser for WinAmp because some people insist on distributing media in this inferior format.

-drasnor :fold:

Enverex
4 Dec 2003, 8:20pm
Interesting. Do you run Winzip? It does the same thing when you start it up. Unless of course, you pay to buy the Pro version. Or, as I suspect is the case with many users, they have the Pro version of Winzip...but didn't pay for it.

- No, I use a freeware alternative that supports all the same formats.

Running any Pop-Up Stoppers? Pay for those? Or do you let the nag screen pop up at system start-up?

- I use Mozilla, no pop-up stopper required.

How about Zone Alarm, or any other freeware firewall?

- I used to use Kerio Personal Firewall and still do sometimes

Real-player has nags too. So does almost any piece of freeware that you run.

- Real does, no other freeware I have has nagging, as that would mean it's not freeware, it's either a trial or shareware.

Windows Media Player does not because you PAID for it. It's part of your system... because they bundled it with your Windows OS. You cannot compare Quicktime to WMP in that regard, because one you have paid for whether want it or not.

- I didn't mention WMP. I use Media Player Classic that looks like Windows Media player 6, uses codecs and is entirely free.

I have been running Quicktime for years, and have NEVER had a problem disabling the tray icon at system start. The only time I see anything is the nag screen when I launch it. And that went away when I decided to get the Pro version because the features were very well worth doing so.

- Not if you don't want them, like me, or any of the other many millions who also do not want it.

If Quicktime is so awful, why do so many movie studios, whose business relies on getting high-quality preview out to potential viewers, use it for their online trailers?

- I'm probably not the only one who has noticed when we are stuck using the Macs at Uni, the only format it will let me export it to is Quicktime MOV. But thats probably just iMovie....

If Quicktime had been made by a company completely independent of Apple, would you still hate it so much? I think not. I think you, and many others, let your perceptions Apple proprietary hardware colour your opinions of Apple multi-platform software. And that's just silly, because they are 2 separate things.

- Most likely. Being apple has nothing to do with it. The reason people hate it so much is because the amount of videos that are saved in this format. Not ones people have made, just trailers and other things, lots of videos in this format mean lots of "UPGRADE NOW!" messages.

:)

- :) To you too.

Just a quick recap -

Media Player Classic - No nagware
Mozilla - No nagware
Kerio Personal FW - No nagware
Other Comp program - No nagware

And I don't use Quicktime anymore, I use "Quicktime Alternative". Oh, and I have never had nagging from RealOne other than when it is first installed.

NS

Dexter
4 Dec 2003, 8:41pm
Well, good points made by both of you, and all valid. But the fact remains that Apple has invested considerable resources into Quicktime, and like any other software company, they have the right to release a free version which encourages you to upgrade to the professional version. And like Windows Media Player (which you paid for with your OS whether you wanted it or not) Quicktime Pro give you dozens of playback, import and export formats. (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/products/qt/specifications.html)

Pop-ups and nags are there for a purpose. Sure, they are annoying, but of you don't like them, pay for the software and enjoy the added extra feature. Or ya, use the cheap freeware alternative, which will playback QT files, but will not give you half the functionality of QT Pro.

Drasnor - I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the quality issue, I think maybe you have been looking at some porrly encoded media. QT has long been the format basis for PROFESSIONAL video editing applications such as Avid and Media 100, and Adobe Premiere and Quicktime and Final Cut Pro on Mac since long before video editing on PC's was both financial and technically viable. And since MPEG-4 is Qucktime 6, I don't see how QT can be called inferior. :scratch:

Dexter...

RWB
4 Dec 2003, 8:52pm
Well, I attend Full Sail for Digital Media, other programs include Game Design, CG Animation, Recording Arts, Film and some others. It is a MAJOR Entertainment Industry school, well reknown and simply amazes me still even though I have been here for a while now and should be used to it.

They use mostly Mac's, buton every machine PC OR MAC is a Copy of Quicktime Pro. Take Adobe After Effects for example, we tend to compress using Sorenson3, but you get better quality out of any compression method using Quicktime Pro.... which is ONLY $30, than with a program that costs at least $1,000. This is for both PC and MAC, and you get equal quality from Quicktime Pro on both platforms.

So with my movies I have made in the past, I rendered out in Animation, which is pretty much NON-COMPRESSED, and for 30 seconds it has taken up at least 500MB of space, then compressed into Sorenson3 on Quicktime Pro. Not only does the file size on Quicktime pro make it smaller than if I had originally rendered from AfterEffects into Sorenson3, but I get better quality.

One reason for this is becuase Apple tends to have better relationships with the creators of the Compression Methods, than what Adobe may have. Either way, Apple has my vote.

Sir Guy
13 Aug 2006, 4:10am
Well, about quick time...

I was just wondering if anyone was getting attacked by the "Quick Time Task" whenever they load a page on the short media forums. Whenever I load a page here I recieve this message:

http://myspace-943.vo.llnwd.net/01040/34/98/1040598943_l.jpg

This happening to anyone else? And anyone know how to fix this? (That's spybot S&D, BTW)

RWB
13 Aug 2006, 5:09am
Nope never seen that... and I Have spybot on several computers I use.