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Okay, here's the problem. My new computer system won't start up. Well, it will when I press the power button, but nothing else happens.
System:
Abit NF7 MB
2 sticks Samsung PC3200 256 MB memory
400 watt power supply
ATI Radeon 9200 SE video card
FireWire card
The 2 hard drives and CD-RW / DVD drive from my old Dell 2100 system.
When I start up the system, the fans turn on, and it'll beep once every few seconds for as long as I can stand to listen to it. I tried to be careful and get everything right. Clearing the CMOS didn't help. The beeps are coming from the MB directly. It has little green and red LED's lit up at the base.
Putting the drivers CDs in for the MB and video card didn't accomplish anything. The CD drive would spin them up, but I wasn't able to get them to do anything.
I'm thinking that since the video card drivers aren't installed on my C drive yet, that's the problem. The video display does nothing at all. But you'd think it has a way to boot up initially somewhere.
I tried putting the C drive back in my old system and loading the drivers to it there, but they won't go in. Even when I get the InstallShield wizard, it doesn't help.
Any ideas on how to get this system going?
qparadox
27 Feb 2004, 5:56am
90% chance there's a problem with one of the three following components:
1) RAM
2) Video-card
3) CPU
Check and make sure your cpu is seated correctly and that the heatsink is on nice and tight.
Drivers have nothing to do with this problem, they are only used by windows when it loads up. The stuff you see when your computer boots of the start is the result of the Bios (Basic Input Output System) and will occur with or without an operating system , like windows, if everything is working correctly.
Here's how to debug this (post the results of each of these tests):
1) Unhook/unplug everything except the CPU, RAM and videocard try and boot. Make sure the videocard is seated well (flush with the socket all the way along).
2) Take out 1 stick of ram, try and boot. Switch sticks and try and boot.
3) Try a different video card (from your old computer, even a PCI card will do) try and boot.
4) If possible try the ram in a different computer and see if it works (if it does boot download memtest86 from www.simmtester.com).
There's some things to start with, post any positive / no change results in this thread and we'll narrow it down.
I can't do anything with the memory because this computer has PC3200 and my old system has PC133 sticks.
I have 2 sticks of Samsung 256 MB PC3200 memory in slots 2 and 3 like the manual says to do.
I need the video card because this NF7 does not have on board video. My old Dell 2100 did. And the 2100 has no AGP slot. I tried loading the video drivers to the C drive with it in the 2100, but it just sits there and does nothing. Same with the MB drivers.
Here's what I've done now:
Unplugged the FireWire card and the E: drive (second hard drive).
Unplugged one stick of memory. Still got the beeping when the computer was turned on. Changed to using the other stick ONLY. No beeping. Still no video, though.
At the bottom of the motherboard, near the CMOS battery, I get 2 LEDs. One comes on red when the power supply is switched on. The other comes on green when I press the power button to start the computer up. It stays green when the computer is on.
When the computer is on, the monitors' light changed from green to orange. If I unplug the monitor cable from the video card, it goes back to green.
I think the video card is screwed up. Hard to tell anything when you can't use the monitor!
primesuspect
27 Feb 2004, 6:58am
I'm 99% sure it's your video card.
Video card is an ATI Radeon 9200 SE. It was new in the box, plastic wrapped and all. I haven't been able to get the driver CD to install (because you can't see anything on the monitor with this computer, and my 2100 has no AGP slot).
Does the video card HAVE to have its driver CD installed for it to run initially? Does XP Home support this card?
primesuspect
27 Feb 2004, 7:20am
Tim: Windows, Drivers, CDs, and all that have absolutely nothing to do with your problem.
Windows and drivers come AFTER the BIOS boots. If you can't even get the computer turned on, then it doesn't even know Windows/drivers/etc exist.
Despite the fact that your video card is shrinkwrapped-brand-new, I still think it's the problem. You may have electrostatic discharged it during installation, or who knows what.
The only other thing I can think of is a grounding/shorting problem. Check my post here (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102370&postcount=19) to see what I'm talking about. It's possible that you have a stray screw or standoff under that mobo that's causing a short.
Either way, don't concern yourself with hard drives, software, or drivers at this point. Your problem is at the raw hardware level, and is either the motherboard, CPU, memory, or video card.
MediaMan
27 Feb 2004, 7:38am
Tim,
Just to double check.
1) Have you got the 12v line plugged in as well as the ATX main power?
2) Have you tried a single stick of memory in slots 1, 2 or 3?
Prime suspects (oh...I made a funny) anyway...Primesuspect...suspects the video card. Pull the video card...fire up the board...it should go into alarm with a series of beeps.
Put the card back in and refire the board. If the same problem exists that you had described then the culprit could be the video card. To me...this sounds like a power problem....It sounds similar to INTEL mobos when the 4 pin 12 volt line needs to be plugged in as well as the main ATX power line.
Mt_Goat
27 Feb 2004, 11:24am
Reseat the video card and make sure to firmly press it into the slot till tou see the latch snap shut and the rear is all the way down. If this fails then remove the board from the case and reseat everything and try to post.
Yes, I have both the regular and 4 pin power connectors, and they are plugged in. Pulling and reseating the video card didn't seem to make any difference.
I was not in a rush when I built this computer, I had to wait for the heat sink to get here so things were assembled a little bit at a time.
I tried to be very careful with keeping myself grounded to the case at all times. Always touching it, etc.
Here's one question on the motherboard mounting - I screwed the standoffs into the computer case, set the MB on them, made sure everything was in the right place (no extra standoffs or holes), then put the mounting screws in with those litle fiber washers that came in the kit.
Since those fiber washers were in the bag with the screws I assumed they should be in the computer somewhere. Could it be that the fiber washers are not letting something ground to the case where it should? They are currently on top of the MB, under the screws.
Tomorrow I may take the various parts to a computer shop and see if they can plug them into an existing system and tell me if it works or not.
dragonV8
27 Feb 2004, 12:23pm
Video card is an ATI Radeon 9200 SE.
Does the video card HAVE to have its driver CD installed for it to run initially? Does XP Home support this card?
Same card as Sally put in her new computer. Worked without a problem and it runs XP Home. I'm no expert, but can confirm from personal experience it should work as soon as it is put into the appropriate graphics slot.
kanezfan
27 Feb 2004, 12:52pm
since you have no other computer with an AGP slot, then there's no way to test if that card is bad or not. take it to that shop and at least you'll know i it's the problem or not.
edcentric
27 Feb 2004, 1:20pm
only use the fiber washers where the mobo manual tells you to.
Take it out of the case. Unplug and disconnect everything. Even remove the cpu.
Install CPU, HSF, one stick of mem, vid card and HDD. Clear cmos by jumper an dpulling battery for a few hours. Boot and call us in the morning.
not to be rude... BUT this is why you shouldnt try building a PC if you dont know what you are doing... Just cause everyone says its easy doesnt mean it really is.... you should have at least studied up on it alittle on the internet and stuff... im not trying to be an ass, but you dont seem to know what you are doing...
I hate being mean...
at least you came to the right place! :D
gcstader
28 Feb 2004, 5:12am
Couple tips in case on one mentioned:
Make sure all the jumpers are set correctly on the motherboard.
Check your manual for the beep codes to see what the problem is.
~ Greg
www4.ncsu.edu/~gcstader/
I'll check the jumpers. They are wherever they are when the factory put then in there. Haven't looked at them yet.
Jengo, I've been around computers for a long time and know some stuff about them. This is not a hard thing for me to do, I just have a bad part and need to track it down.
I did what other people suggested. Cleared the CMOS, pulled the battery for a few hours, took out the fiber washers and CPU and memory, replaced CPU and memory, left the CD drive unhooked, etc.
No changes yet. Nothing at all comes up on the screen. If I leave the monitor cable plugged in with the computer on, the monitor light turns orange. If I unplug the monitor from the computer, it goes green.
I hear and feel the hard drive running but not accessing anything, It's definitely not the hard disk, and I hope its not the CPU, which cost me $130 for an unlocked 2500+ Barton on eBay..
I think the video card is bad. I'll take it and the CPU to some computer stores tomorrow for testing. It better not be the motherboard.
The manual hasn't been very helpful at all in figuring out the the beeping error codes were.
TheSmJ
28 Feb 2004, 7:29am
I just figured I should mention that a constand beepcode RAM. If it was the CPU, you'd get no beepcode at all, as the CPU must be present to generate the beep code itself, not to mention there'd be nothing to read the BIOS in the first place.
The video beepcode is 2 short, one long. (Or one long, two short... I'ts either of the two for sure) so this prolly isn't the problem. You could always try booting the system w/o the vid card and see if it changes, but if it checks for the RAM first, it may not.
Either way, you could rule it out by just booting w/o it, and see what happens. If you get the vid-card error above, then you know the vid card is fine. If you still get the RAM beepcode, than you'll know the vid card itself has no effect. If you get an entirely diffrent code, than it could very well be the vid card.
Latest news.
Well, it's not a hardware problem anymore, now we're down to software, I think.
I played around with it some more this morning, with no good results. I took it to a computer shop and told them what was up. They couldn't figure out anything either. Then the guy tried putting only 1 memory stick in the computer, in slot 1. It worked! We went into the BIOS and set the date and time.
Then he put the other memory stick in #2, and the computer saw that also.
But it would not start Windows. We kept getting the black screen that says Windows didn't start normally, and gives you choices (safe mode, command prompt, networking, normal, etc).
Trying to start in safe mode makes a big list of files on the screen, and nothing else happens.
They didn't charge me any money.
I brought it home and ran 1 and 2 memory sticks in every possible combination, and it always worked.
But I couldn't get it to boot up Windows.
When I start the computer, it will give 1 short beep, and just as the Windows logo screen comes on, it'll snap to the black "Windows did not start successfully" screen.
I'm using the same 20 GB hard drive that has been in my Dell 2100 for 2+ years. It came with XP Home on it from Dell.
The guy at the computer shop says it won't work to boot up this computer. I see no reason why not. It works fine in the 2100, why would it not work with the new Abit system?
CPU temps were around 49-53 Celsius with all 3 fans spinning 3000 rpm. I guess that white thermal paste stuff that comes already applied to a new heat sink is not very effective. I'll go to Radio Shack tomorrow and get something else.
profdlp
29 Feb 2004, 3:59am
...I'm using the same 20 GB hard drive that has been in my Dell 2100 for 2+ years. It came with XP Home on it from Dell.
The guy at the computer shop says it won't work to boot up this computer. I see no reason why not. It works fine in the 2100, why would it not work with the new Abit system?...
Did you format the drive first, or just pull it out of the Dell and stick it in the new comp?
Here's a small trouble shooting guide:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1136/
But it sounds like bad memory to me.
Download Memtest and make a test floppy disk.
Link:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip
More info on the mainpage
http://www.memtest86.com/
qparadox
29 Feb 2004, 4:09am
Windows XP won't boot properly if you switch IDE controllers (which you definitely switched when you changed to a new motherboard). You'll need to put in your XP cd and boot off it and then select the "Repair Install" option.
Before you do this do the memtest thing MJO linked to above. It only takes a minute to download and make the floppy and 5-10 minutes to run the test.
Yes, I'm using the hard drive straight out of the Dell.
I can't do the Memtest, the new computer has no floppy drive.
If I repair install my 20 GB hard drive to make it work with the new computer, will it then not work in my Dell 2100? I don't plan to use this 2100 much longer, but I don't want a compatibility problem if I do have to go back to it for some reason.
I'll check in the Abit computers' BIOS to make sure it is set to boot off the C: drive.
profdlp
29 Feb 2004, 4:21am
Do you care about the stuff on the drive? If not AND you have a full version of windows the easy way out is to format the drive and start over.
If you are a risk-taker (and you could lose your data doing this!) you could:
1) stick the drive back in the Dell
2) boot up in safe mode
3) delete everything in device manager
4) stick the drive in the new computer and let it find everything again
Don't try this if you have critical data you can't afford to lose! :eek:
profdlp
29 Feb 2004, 4:24am
If I repair install my 20 GB hard drive to make it work with the new computer, will it then not work in my Dell 2100? I don't plan to use this 2100 much longer, but I don't want a compatibility problem if I do have to go back to it for some reason...
My friend, you're trying to jump halfway across a ditch. You need to decide which side you want to be on before you leap. :smiles:
Jump halfway across a ditch - I like that one! :D
How about this - I find another small hard drive and use that as my operating system drive? Then I have my 20 GB and 80 GB drives for everything but the operating system.
I have a lot of valuable information on the 20 GB drive, and the 80 GB drive has about 20 GB worth of data on it also. It'd take a lot of CD burning to move things around.
Well, I suppose I could transfer EVERYTHING over to the 80 GB drive, and get the 20 GB drive reformatted to work in the new system.
If another drive was providing the operating system, could the 20 GB drive be used as is without interference? Everything on it works good, I don't want to mess with it, because if there's a way to screw it up, I'll find it.
qparadox
29 Feb 2004, 5:51am
Yes, if you put the 80 GB drive into the new computer, install windows XP on it and then put the 20 GB in, the next time you boot up windows the 20 GB HD *should* be visible and you should have no trouble accessing files on it.
profdlp
29 Feb 2004, 5:58am
...How about this - I find another small hard drive and use that as my operating system drive? Then I have my 20 GB and 80 GB drives for everything but the operating system
I have a lot of valuable information on the 20 GB drive, and the 80 GB drive has about 20 GB worth of data on it also. It'd take a lot of CD burning to move things around.
Well, I suppose I could transfer EVERYTHING over to the 80 GB drive, and get the 20 GB drive reformatted to work in the new system....
I would leave the 20GB drive in the Dell, assuming it is working fine there now.
If another drive was providing the operating system, could the 20 GB drive be used as is without interference? Everything on it works good, I don't want to mess with it, because if there's a way to screw it up, I'll find it.
Why bother? Get a drive big enough to work in the new computer permanently, or do the CD burning. My advice is to do the CD burning no matter what else you do; that way if things go horribly wrong you have lost only time, not your <strike>bible music</strike> data. I've never met anyone who regretted having too many backups.
I think the best thing is to get a clear idea of what you want to end up with when you're all done. It will then be easy to put the steps you need to take in a logical order.
I know what I want. I want both of my hard drives in this new computer with no changes to anything. But since the new computer seems to be requiring a new OS install to get set up with the IDE whatever, I have a situation.
I wonder if I could load XP Home on my 80 GB drive without disturbing anything else on it. I doubt it. XP does a full format on installation.
I do have most of the stuff on the 80 GB drive backed up on CDs already. I suppose I could take the other stuff, cram it onto the 20 GB drive, and clear out the 80. Then install XP Home on the 80 and put all the other files back on it from the 20 and / or from the CDs.
leishi85
29 Feb 2004, 7:48am
[QUOTE=Tim]I wonder if I could load XP Home on my 80 GB drive without disturbing anything else on it. I doubt it. XP does a full format on installation.QUOTE]
U can, and windows doesn't do a full format on installation, it only do format if u tell it too.
did u have an OS installed on the 80 gig before?? if not, and it';s formatted to NTFS already, and all u have to do is install windows, and when it ask u if u want to format, just chose, leave everything as it is, and do not format.
and then windows will just install on that 80gig hdd.
The 80 GB drive never had an OS on it. It has been purely for storage and backup. It's currently got 20 GB of stuff on it, most of which I also have on CDs.
Now that I have this situation, I'm thinking I should make backups of some of the stuff on it. Either buy a lot of CDs or borrow a DVD burner and burn a few DVDs.
tim, did you understand what leishi said?
all you have to do is tell it not to format the drive there is an option for that on install of Windows XP. its that simple, dont back nothing up cause you wont need too, just install XP on it, but dont format. that easy.
:shakehead
primesuspect
29 Feb 2004, 3:19pm
I still wouldn't risk it. Back up everything. It's a huge pain in the ass, but you won't regret it.
Just think "how will I feel if I lose everything"
And then backup when you have your answer.
primesuspect
29 Feb 2004, 3:20pm
Tim, you have lots and lots of space on your webserver. Why don't you make a temporary backup to it?
You can put 20gb of stuff on there, I don't care. It might take a while (are you on cable or DSL?) but it might be easier than making 10,000 CDs.
You can make a bootable memtest cd as well.
No need for a floppy disc.
The link to the cd image is on Memtest main page.
primesuspect
29 Feb 2004, 3:45pm
And make sure you use the one from memtest.org, not memtest86.com
The memtest.org version is more modern.
Straight_Man
29 Feb 2004, 4:15pm
Latest news.
Well, it's not a hardware problem anymore, now we're down to software, I think.
I played around with it some more this morning, with no good results. I took it to a computer shop and told them what was up. They couldn't figure out anything either. Then the guy tried putting only 1 memory stick in the computer, in slot 1. It worked! We went into the BIOS and set the date and time.
Then he put the other memory stick in #2, and the computer saw that also.
But it would not start Windows. We kept getting the black screen that says Windows didn't start normally, and gives you choices (safe mode, command prompt, networking, normal, etc).
Trying to start in safe mode makes a big list of files on the screen, and nothing else happens.
They didn't charge me any money.
I brought it home and ran 1 and 2 memory sticks in every possible combination, and it always worked.
But I couldn't get it to boot up Windows.
When I start the computer, it will give 1 short beep, and just as the Windows logo screen comes on, it'll snap to the black "Windows did not start successfully" screen.
I'm using the same 20 GB hard drive that has been in my Dell 2100 for 2+ years. It came with XP Home on it from Dell.
The guy at the computer shop says it won't work to boot up this computer. I see no reason why not. It works fine in the 2100, why would it not work with the new Abit system?
CPU temps were around 49-53 Celsius with all 3 fans spinning 3000 rpm. I guess that white thermal paste stuff that comes already applied to a new heat sink is not very effective. I'll go to Radio Shack tomorrow and get something else.
This is basicly an XP DRM cutin. To save your data, you have two Hds. Take one HD that is target, image the parts off to the HD you do not want to install in, or unplug HD you want to save data on-- ignore OS, and programs that register, you will lose registry and thus program registration and the parts of installed programs that end up otehr than in the program directory, like Office which sticks stuff all over including in Windows' System directories.
Can you borrow a 40 GB HD, image with Partition MAgic and shrink the targets so they hold only the data you need, or borrow a HD of say 40 GB size, install to the HD you want to install to, image from your old and backup HDs to the installed image, by using partitions that will fit when shrunk??? Then you can use PM to resize your parts to fill new HD, windows will still boot and run fine, as HD upgrades are allowed for by Microsoft. New motherboards are not allowed for in DRM, without a reauthorization.
What I do now, is this:
My XP install is on one HD, bigger HD actually is not boot HD and it gets most of what I call work product. I have a 40 to boot Widnows from, and an 80 that holds all my work product-- programs are defaulted to use folders on my work product HD, which also gets my downloads of legit stuff and backups of Windows. This is true for both my boxes. The download and work product HDs are a pair, I can stick wither in either box, in my case, by shuttign down boxes and unlocking the cold-swap IDE trays and switching them and booting up. Data I want to transfer is now in my other box. My websites get imaged to CD-RW media, I have on hand about 150 CDs of CD-RW type right now. I burn to them with a data burn, not a drag and drop. When a CD-RW has all older stuff on it which I do not need, I reformat the CD-RW and reuse. That is for stuff I think critical. In fact, the archive HDs are also FAT32, which means I can recover from a linux install if I wanted. Boot drives are NTFS.
Long term, think about doing that, you can buy 3-5X as much storage with a HD for same money as blanks of RW type that provide same space(depends on speed, I use mostly 12X RW media myself). Short term, see if you can image your stuff to a HD you are going to take out of service, or see if someone you know has a HD spare they will lend you that they are not using.
Then, the stuff you absolutely must have, you back off to RW media or even both RW and R media (R media, good quality, retains burn better than RW for longer). With both R and RW and HD that holds just your work stuff you gotta have, you have a htree layered backup, with the RW and the HD, you have two layered backup. HD to HD transfer is faster than burning. Primary backup is in fact fastest and cheapest overall way, also.
Think HDs as data baskets by mech, you want your work in a different place than that your picky O\S (due to DRM), with XP, if you want to play with settings and upgrade a lot.
John D.
And make sure you use the one from memtest.org, not memtest86.com
The memtest.org version is more modern.
What is the difference between Memtest86 and Memtest86 +?
I read that they are made by two different development teams.
But Memtest86+ is based upon Memtest86.
Thy look pretty much the same as well.
I think I have a way to do it. Most of the stuff on my 80 GB drive is also on CDs, so I already have them backed up. I managed to clear out enough space on the 20 GB drive to fit most of the other stuff from the 80 onto the 20.
I'll copy my miscellaneous video folder to the 20 drive. This folder has a lot of car racing videos, music videos, and random other stuff on it that I've gotten over the last year or so from the internet. It's about 2.3 GB by itself.
Prime, I could FTP some files to the site server to hold them temporarily, but my DSL is an 1184 / 128 speed. Uploading it would take quite a while. Usually it takes 2-3 hours to FTP a 50-70 MB high bit rate webshow file. But I may do that for some of the smaller files that I don't want to burn to a CD. I need to get some CD-RW discs.
Some people said that I could just load XP Home to the 80 hard drive and that it wouldn't touch anything else. They're probably right, but I have a lot of "what ifs" bouncing around in my head.
I need to borrow a DVD burner and burn a few DVDs. That would help a lot for backups. All the low and high rate versions of my show are taking up something like 3.8 GB so far on each drive (a full set on each HD, plus another set of copies on CDs).
I always wanted the 80 HD to be just for storage and not accessed every minute of every day. My 20 is the main drive and I was hoping to keep it like that. But then again, the 20 is 2+ years old now and the 80 is about 3 months old.
I have a hard time throwing things away. I rarely or never use 70% the XP installed programs on my 20 HD, but I always think "what if I do want them someday". Never mind the fact I haven't touched them in 2 years except just to look at them. :rolleyes:
primesuspect
1 Mar 2004, 4:00am
What is the difference between Memtest86 and Memtest86 +?
I read that they are made by two different development teams.
But Memtest86+ is based upon Memtest86.
Thy look pretty much the same as well.
The newer version (memtest 86+) has support for the latest chipsets and memory controllers - also support for opteron/a64 and all that.
primesuspect
1 Mar 2004, 4:04am
uploading it would take quite a while.
yehaha, tell me about it. One of the things I'm doing out here in Washington DC this weekend is moving 9gb of client data from one server to another via T1 line - even at a pretty steady 1.2mbits (around 100-120Kbps) it took a solid 16 hours to move the entire thing. :(
I love technology. Most of the "work" i'm doing is from the Marriott Hotel here via wireless lan + whatever huge ass pipe they have here (i'm thinking multiple T1s) thru VNC to the server across town. It's a tough life :D :D
MediaMan
2 Mar 2004, 6:44am
Moved to hardware as this emergency has now become a configuration matter.
MM.
Jengo? Go easy on Tim. We all started somewhere.
Tim. It may be an idea to further define a particular question and start a new thread as this one is getting long and confused. :)
The new system is up and running now. Not without a few headaches, though.
Despite the manual saying to install my 2 memory stick in slots 2 & 3, this resulted in 2 big FUBARs of the system, and taking it to a local computer guy. He says he's never seen anyone not use slot 1 for memory, and only put it in 2 & 3. So after the second trip for the same problem, I'm leaving it in 1 & 2.
Power supply was bouncing off the low limit on the negative 12 volt power setting. I was getting beeping from the computer whenever it approached the limit, and the computer shut off once from it. I moved the limit from -13.01 volts to -13.18 volts, and the problem has all but stopped. Or should I get a new power supply? This one is a 400 watt.
I hope I can swap all my important program files from my 20 GB hard drive, or just set it as the slave drive and leave it alone, even with the OS missing an important System32 file.
More news as applicable.
profdlp
5 Mar 2004, 5:03am
...Despite the manual saying to install my 2 memory stick in slots 2 & 3...I'm leaving it in 1 & 2.
Go with what works. :thumbsup:
...should I get a new power supply? This one is a 400 watt.
I would see how things go over the next few days/weeks. Also, where rated wattage is concerned, a "clean" 350W power supply is preferable to a shaky 550W one.
I hope I can swap all my important program files from my 20 GB hard drive, or just set it as the slave drive and leave it alone, even with the OS missing an important System32 file...
There are plenty of ways of doing that, even if the drives are in two different computers. Tell us where the drives ended up and we'll advise you.
What gives with the "System32 file"?
Not sure about the system32 file. I was transferring files from my 80 to the 20 so some of them would be backed up in case my installation of XP Home on the 80 made it lose some data. Well, XP installed quickly and didn't lose anything for me.
But when I went to turn my Dell on a little later, it said Windows couldn't start because a System32 file was missing or corrupted. I forget the exact address, but it had the "C:" and "system32" in the address among 2 other identifiers.
And since my 20 was filled, with only 875 MB empty, I couldn't just repair the XP verion because XP said it needed 990 MB to install.
Now I have both drives in the new computer. The 80 is the master and the 20 is the slave. Everything works, but since Kazaa doesn't come up on the desktop I can't get into it. I don't want to just reload Kazaa, because I don't like the new 2.6 version. I have and prefer the older 2.0.2 version. There are a few other things out of place, but no big deal.
In the next day or 2 I plan to copy some important folders from the 20 to the 80 and then reload XP on the 20, hoping it only repairs XP and doesn't reload / reset everything. I had things just like I wanted them to be.
I went out today and bought a 10 GB Western Digital HD (January 2001 build date) for $15 at a computer store. Now I think I won't need it, but maybe I should keep it around anyhow.
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