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Geeky1
28 Feb 2004, 9:28pm
This was read on air by a local talk show host, and I found it on google as well. It's a great analogy, and it's absolutely true.

The US tax system -- explained for dummies

I was having lunch with one of my favorite friends last week and the conversation turned to the government's recent round of tax cuts. "I'm opposed to those tax cuts," the retired West coast college instructor declared, "because they benefit the rich. The rich get much more money back than ordinary taxpayers like you and me and that's not fair."

"But the rich pay more in the first place," I argued, "so it stands to reason that they'd get more money back." I could tell that my friend was unimpressed by this meager argument.

So I said to him, let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day 10 men go to a restaurant for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If it was paid the way we pay our taxes, the first four men would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1; the sixth would pay $3; the seventh $7; the eighth $12; the ninth $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

The 10 men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until the owner threw them a curve. Since you are all such good customers, he said, I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20. Now dinner for the 10 only costs $80.

The first four are unaffected. They still eat for free. Can you figure out how to divvy up the $20 savings among the remaining six so that everyone gets his fair share? The men realize that $20 divided by 6 is $3.33, but if they subtract that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would end up being paid to eat their meal.

The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same percentage, being sure to give each a break, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so now the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of $59.

Outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," complained the sixth man, pointing to the tenth, "and he got $7!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!"

"That's true," shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor."

The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They were $52 short!

And that, boys, girls and college instructors, is how America's tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes should get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table any more.

Camman
28 Feb 2004, 9:53pm
That's a great analogy, I saw once before but I've been looking for it ever since, thanks, great post!

a2jfreak
28 Feb 2004, 11:49pm
I heard that on "Your World" (Neil Cavuto's show).

I say abolish the IRS and go to a sales/use tax--that would be fair.

tycho
29 Feb 2004, 3:12am
So lets review... If we attack the rich too much then they will stop paying their taxes? Huh?

Good analogy though

Gargoyle
29 Feb 2004, 4:19am
Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table any more.


Wealthy individuals and corporation heads that allow their earnings to be hidden in other countries to avoid taxation should be shot.


But yeah, a lot of people gripe about tax cuts for the rich and don't understand that often times it's a flat percentage rate and it's totally fair.

mmonnin
29 Feb 2004, 4:29am
I've read that one before. But do the rich need that much of a tax cut.

I see it as if you got money, you have power of people. The more power the more you pay.

CaffeineMe
29 Feb 2004, 5:45am
I read about the tax rebate that "the rich" got last year. I got a tax rebate check last year. Whoa....I'm rich. woo. hoo.

Surprisingly, I feel no richer, caviar has not graced my palate, nor have I purchased an ivory back scratcher. Being rich truly does not make one happier.

a2jfreak
29 Feb 2004, 5:49am
If I were worth $10 Billion I wouldn't have caviar "grace" my plate. :)

Gobbles
29 Feb 2004, 12:18pm
nice analogy. Alil niave however...

The rich get taxed at the same rate as the poor. They also get more back, they also can afford a tax lawyer who know loop holes in tax laws that allow them to get more back then they should.

People attack the wealthy because they get breaks that the rest of us dont. I dont have the money to put aside in a tax shelter, or interest account which I roll into my tax shelter. I cant find a way to right off large expenses as business related items. I cant write off my vacation because I took a work call on my cell for 2 min. The rich however can because once again they can afford the tax lawyers and accountants.

my .02
but after taxes its .003

Gobbles

profdlp
29 Feb 2004, 6:57pm
nice analogy. Alil niave however...

The rich get taxed at the same rate as the poor. They also get more back, they also can afford a tax lawyer who know loop holes in tax laws that allow them to get more back then they should...
Not even close. Look at the tax tables the government sends with your tax forms. If you triple your income you will not triple your take-home pay - you will pay way more tax.

Anyone who is paid by the hour and works overtime occasionally understands this. Compare what you keep per hour in a normal 40-hour week to what you keep per hour when you work 50 hours. The only difference is that since the 50-hour week was not the norm it gets averaged out over the year, hence a bigger refund.