Cant fold

[alf]

I have about 80 wu's finished in the time that i have been folding (I know my computer isnt the best) but i cant get anymore wu's since i installed "the no nonsense console." It always gets to like 398 out of 400 and then cant add them or something. Also whenever i turn off my computer it always restarts. I'm thinking of just deleting and reinstalling the newer version. Please speak up if you know the problem of why I cannot fold.

[mmonnin]

Post the log file of the problem area. That will help us better.

[alf]

how do i attach? (I feel extremely stupid at this moment)

[Leonardo]

Go to the folder where you installed Folding@Home. A hypothetical example is C:\Folding@Home. Within that folder will be a file called FAHlog.txt. Click (or double click, depending on your settings) on the file; copy, then paste to a post in the thread. Don't feel stupid. We all are at different ability levels. It would be pretty boring if we were all at the same level, wouldn't it! :)

[alf]

okay i have it
lets start out with all day on thursday
"[01:09:24] PROJECT="work/wudata_00", NSTEPS=5000000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=25.000000, TEMP=298.00
[01:09:25] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[01:09:25] Version 3.8 October 2000
[01:09:25] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[01:09:25] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[01:09:25] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
[01:17:21] Finished a frame (1)
[01:19:53] Opening "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -nohome http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/teampage?q=93 http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/teampage?q=93
[01:26:36] Finished a frame (2)".... to finished a frame (390)


Now here is friday
"--- Opening Log file [March 5 21:45:13]


# Windows Graphical Edition ###################################################
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Folding@home Client Version 3.24

http://foldingathome.stanford.edu
email:help@foldingathome.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Arguments: -advmethods -forceasm

[21:45:13] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:45:13] - User name: alf (Team 93)
[21:45:13] - User ID = 2326215837081683
[21:45:13] - Machine ID: 1
[21:45:13]
[21:45:13] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:45:13] Initialization complete
[21:45:13] + Benchmarking ...
[21:45:20]
[21:45:20] + Processing work unit
[21:45:34] Core required: FahCore_65.exe
[21:45:34] Core found.
[21:45:34] Working on Unit 00 [March 5 21:45:34]
[21:45:34] + Working ...
[21:45:34] ARC file integrity verified
[21:45:49] Restarting from checkpointed files.
[21:45:49]
[21:45:49] Protein: p638_L939_K12M_ext
[21:45:49] - Run: 196 (Clone 48, Gen 19)
[21:45:49] - Frames Completed: 390, Remaining: 10
[21:45:49] - Dynamic steps required: 125000
[21:45:49]
[21:45:49] Writing local files:
[21:45:49]
[21:45:49] parameters work/wudata_00.prm
[21:45:49] - Writing "work/wudata_00.key": (overwrite) successful.
[21:45:49] - Writing "work/wudata_00.xyz": (overwrite) successful.
[21:45:49] - Writing "work/wudata_00.prm": (overwrite) successful.
[21:45:50] - Writing "work/wudata_00.key": (append) successful.
[21:45:50]
[21:45:50] PROJECT="work/wudata_00", NSTEPS=125000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=25.000000, TEMP=298.00
[21:45:50] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[21:45:50] Version 3.8 October 2000
[21:45:50] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[21:45:50] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[21:45:50] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
[21:59:44] - Couldn't open file work/wudata_00-0391.arf for checksum
[21:59:44] Warning: Could not calculate checksums on file work/wudata_00-0391.arf
[21:59:44] Finished a frame (391)
[22:13:40] Finished a frame (392)
[22:27:25] Finished a frame (393)
[22:43:15] Finished a frame (394)
[22:57:00] - Couldn't open file work/wudata_00-0395.arf for checksum
[22:57:00] Warning: Could not calculate checksums on file work/wudata_00-0395.arf
[22:57:00] Finished a frame (395)
[23:10:47] Finished a frame (396)
[23:27:15] Finished a frame (397)
[23:45:39] Finished a frame (398)
[00:05:18] Finished a frame (399)
[00:19:07] Finished a frame (400)
[00:19:07] TINKER is Exiting following Normal Termination
[00:19:07]
[00:19:07] Finished Work Unit:
[00:19:21] Folding@Home2 Core Shutdown: BAD_FRAME_CHECKSUM
[00:19:21]
[00:19:21] Got: C4027E-130030-40467098-41B71EFB: 0393
[00:19:21] Expected: C4027E-130030-40467098-41B71EFB: 0392
[00:19:21] Error: ARC file integrity could not be confirmed. Exiting
[00:19:21]
[00:19:21] Folding@Home2 Core Shutdown: BAD_FRAME_CHECKSUM
[00:19:22] Failed to delete temporary filesCoreStatus = 70 (112)
[00:19:26] + The core could not validate the current work unit for processing.
[00:19:26] Deleting current work unit & continuing..."

[Straight_Man]

Now here is friday

[21:59:44] - Couldn't open file work/wudata_00-0391.arf for checksum
[21:59:44] Warning: Could not calculate checksums on file work/wudata_00-0391.arf
[21:59:44] Finished a frame (391)
[22:13:40] Finished a frame (392)
[22:27:25] Finished a frame (393)
[22:43:15] Finished a frame (394)
[22:57:00] - Couldn't open file work/wudata_00-0395.arf for checksum
[22:57:00] Warning: Could not calculate checksums on file work/wudata_00-0395.arf
[22:57:00] Finished a frame (395)
[23:10:47] Finished a frame (396)
[23:27:15] Finished a frame (397)
[23:45:39] Finished a frame (398)
[00:05:18] Finished a frame (399)
[00:19:07] Finished a frame (400)
[00:19:07] TINKER is Exiting following Normal Termination
[00:19:07]
[00:19:07] Finished Work Unit:
[00:19:21] Folding@Home2 Core Shutdown: BAD_FRAME_CHECKSUM
[00:19:21]
[00:19:21] Got: C4027E-130030-40467098-41B71EFB: 0393
[00:19:21] Expected: C4027E-130030-40467098-41B71EFB: 0392
[00:19:21] Error: ARC file integrity could not be confirmed. Exiting
[00:19:21]
[00:19:21] Folding@Home2 Core Shutdown: BAD_FRAME_CHECKSUM
[00:19:22] Failed to delete temporary filesCoreStatus = 70 (112)
[00:19:26] + The core could not validate the current work unit for processing.
[00:19:26] Deleting current work unit & continuing..."

Leave Folding@Home not running.

Possible bad WU or Core or Client download. Why, do not know. I would go into the work folder inside the Folding@Home folder and try this:

See if you have a file with the extension .arf .... Change the extension to .arc .... Folding uses the .arc extension, and usually does NOT use .arf . Sicne the checksum matched, it is possible the silly thing was complaining about the extension on the CP file or the original archive

Restart client (the Folding@Home program).

See if you get more such junk, if so I think you need to get a new core and client from scratch IF deleting the contents of the work directory inside the Folding@Home directory does not help. If it continues to work for awhile and then happens again, I think I would get a system file checker running to check the HD. What Windows are you running????

John D.

[mmonnin]

Kind looks as if the Core or client might be bad. Also you HDD might have some bad sectors. Might want to scandisk or something to check the HDD.

[witenoiz]

Alf - I have a few boxes that would be flying at that rate! :beer: :beer: My advice is to get rid of what you have ( I had a similar problem ) create a folder on your desktop ( I call most of mine Fold ) download the no-nonsense Fah4Console into that folder - then click or dbl click the red :fold: and answer all the questions! I will suggest the answers from another thread and I have all of mine set this way Alf 93 ( well I used my name ) No No No Yes Fah Idle 100 No 15 Yes and machine ID 1. It is a shame to lose lost work but sometimes your the statue - sometimes you get to be the pigeon. I am confused about when you restart your computer folding restarts too - you had to set it that way - and I am guessing you are on dial-up. Before you turn off your computer make sure you shut down Folding correctly to be safe - I use Control + C Good Luck and let us know what works or doesn't - You will be folding if you want to. We will help!! Jack

[witenoiz]

Also whenever i turn off my computer it always restarts.
I just read this again - and again - your computer restarts? The obvious I guess would be run SpyBot, ScanDisk, Defrag, run your virus program - and before it starts ( sounds like it is re-booting? ) kill the power supply or unplug it and let it sit for 5 minutes. Jack

[alf]

Leave Folding@Home not running.

Possible bad WU or Core or Client download. Why, do not know. I would go into the work folder inside the Folding@Home folder and try this:

See if you have a file with the extension .arf .... Change the extension to .arc .... Folding uses the .arc extension, and usually does NOT use .arf . Sicne the checksum matched, it is possible the silly thing was complaining about the extension on the CP file or the original archive

Restart client (the Folding@Home program).

See if you get more such junk, if so I think you need to get a new core and client from scratch IF deleting the contents of the work directory inside the Folding@Home directory does not help. If it continues to work for awhile and then happens again, I think I would get a system file checker running to check the HD. What Windows are you running????

John D.

I have no .arc or .arf extension in the work folder. I am running windows xp professional. I have no spybots and am running a virus scan now. The F@H no nonsense console is not in the F@H folder but it is in the startup folder.

I have the same problem with gromacs too. I will probably just end up uninstalling it and install teh newer version. Also i have a cable modem my computer just has its problems.

I mean when i log off or turn off my computer all my wu progress is lost so i have to start all over

[alf]

No viruses. Here is the log of the gromacs problem
"[00:19:40] Folding@home Gromacs Core
[00:19:40] Version 1.55 (December 22, 2003)
[00:19:40]
[00:19:40] Preparing to commence simulation
[00:19:40] - Looking at optimizations...
[00:19:40] - Created dyn
[00:19:40] - Files status OK
[00:19:40] - Go method
[00:19:40] - Expanded 352015 -> 1760809 (decompressed 500.2 percent)
[00:19:40] - Starting from initial work packet
[00:19:40]
[00:19:40] Project: 520 (Run 164, Clone 210, Gen 1)
[00:19:40]
[00:19:40] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[00:19:40] Entering M.D.
[00:19:47] Protein: p520_BBA5_pf
[00:19:47]
[00:19:47] Writing local files
[00:19:47] Extra 3DNow boost OK.
[00:19:49] Writing local files
[00:19:51] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0)
[00:31:00] Writing local files
[00:31:02] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps (1)
[00:42:11] Writing local files
[00:42:13] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps (2)
[00:53:23] Writing local files
[00:53:25] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps (3)
[01:04:34] Writing local files
[01:04:36] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps (4)
[01:15:45] Writing local files
[01:15:47] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps (5)
[01:26:56] Writing local files
[01:26:58] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps (6)
[01:38:08] Writing local files
[01:38:10] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps (7)
[01:49:19] Writing local files
[01:49:21] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps (8)
[02:00:31] Writing local files
[02:00:33] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps (9)
[02:11:42] Writing local files
[02:11:44] Completed 50000 out of 500000 steps (10)
[02:23:00] Writing local files
[02:23:02] Completed 55000 out of 500000 steps (11)
[02:34:11] Writing local files
[02:34:13] Completed 60000 out of 500000 steps (12)
[02:45:23] Writing local files
[02:45:25] Completed 65000 out of 500000 steps (13)
[02:56:35] Writing local files
[02:56:37] Completed 70000 out of 500000 steps (14)

Folding@home Client Shutdown.


--- Opening Log file [March 6 03:22:39]


# Windows Graphical Edition ###################################################
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Folding@home Client Version 3.24

http://foldingathome.stanford.edu
email:help@foldingathome.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Arguments: -advmethods -forceasm

[03:22:39] - Ask before connecting: No
[03:22:39] - User name: alf (Team 93)
[03:22:39] - User ID = 2326215837081683
[03:22:39] - Machine ID: 1
[03:22:39]
[03:22:39] Loaded queue successfully.
[03:22:39] Initialization complete
[03:22:39] + Benchmarking ...
[03:22:41]
[03:22:41] + Processing work unit
[03:22:42] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[03:22:42] Core found.
[03:22:42] Working on Unit 01 [March 6 03:22:42]
[03:22:42] + Working ...
[03:22:42]
[03:22:42] *------------------------------*
[03:22:42] Folding@home Gromacs Core
[03:22:42] Version 1.55 (December 22, 2003)
[03:22:42]
[03:22:42] Preparing to commence simulation
[03:22:42] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[03:22:42] - Not checking prior termination.
[03:22:42] - Go method
[03:22:42] - Expanded 352015 -> 1760809 (decompressed 500.2 percent)
[03:22:42]
[03:22:42] Project: 520 (Run 164, Clone 210, Gen 1)
[03:22:42]
[03:22:42] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[03:22:42] Entering M.D.
[03:23:03] (Starting from checkpoint)
[03:23:03] Protein: p520_BBA5_pf
[03:23:03]
[03:23:03] Writing local files
[03:23:03] Completed 70000 out of 500000 steps (14)
[03:23:03] Extra SSE boost OK.
[03:46:26] Writing local files
[03:46:28] Completed 75000 out of 500000 steps (15)
[04:06:55] Writing local files
[04:06:57] Completed 80000 out of 500000 steps (16)
[04:24:24] Writing local files
[04:24:26] Completed 85000 out of 500000 steps (17)
[04:42:42] Writing local files
[04:42:45] Completed 90000 out of 500000 steps (18)
[05:00:13] Writing local files
[05:00:16] Completed 95000 out of 500000 steps (19)
[05:17:26] Writing local files
[05:17:28] Completed 100000 out of 500000 steps (20)
[05:34:37] Writing local files
[05:34:39] Completed 105000 out of 500000 steps (21)
[05:51:51] Writing local files
[05:51:53] Completed 110000 out of 500000 steps (22)
[06:09:06] Writing local files
[06:09:09] Completed 115000 out of 500000 steps (23)
[06:26:24] Writing local files
[06:26:26] Completed 120000 out of 500000 steps (24)
[06:43:42] Writing local files
[06:43:44] Completed 125000 out of 500000 steps (25)
[07:01:02] Writing local files
[07:01:04] Completed 130000 out of 500000 steps (26)
[07:18:19] Writing local files
[07:18:21] Completed 135000 out of 500000 steps (27)
[07:35:39] Writing local files
[07:35:41] Completed 140000 out of 500000 steps (28)
[07:52:56] Writing local files
[07:52:58] Completed 145000 out of 500000 steps (29)
[08:10:12] Writing local files
[08:10:15] Completed 150000 out of 500000 steps (30)
[08:27:27] Writing local files
[08:27:30] Completed 155000 out of 500000 steps (31)
[08:44:38] Writing local files
[08:44:40] Completed 160000 out of 500000 steps (32)
[09:01:43] Writing local files
[09:01:45] Completed 165000 out of 500000 steps (33)
[09:18:50] Writing local files
[09:18:53] Completed 170000 out of 500000 steps (34)
[09:22:41] + Working...
[09:35:20] Writing local files
[09:35:22] Completed 175000 out of 500000 steps (35)
[09:51:32] Writing local files
[09:51:34] Completed 180000 out of 500000 steps (36)
[10:07:45] Writing local files
[10:07:47] Completed 185000 out of 500000 steps (37)
[10:23:57] Writing local files
[10:24:00] Completed 190000 out of 500000 steps (38)
[10:40:10] Writing local files
[10:40:12] Completed 195000 out of 500000 steps (39)
[10:56:22] - Checksums don't match (work/wudata_01.arc)
[10:56:22] Checksum not what expected.
[10:56:22]
[10:56:22] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FILE_IO_ERROR
[10:56:25] CoreStatus = 75 (117)
[10:56:25] Error opening or reading from a file.
[10:56:25] Deleting current work unit & continuing..."

[Leonardo]

It looks to me like your downloaded work units are corrupted. Your log does not show the indicators of an unstable system.

[alf]

so i just uninstall and then reinstall?

[witenoiz]

That's what I would do - delete - New install. Then if you have more problems - one step at a time. Jack

[edcentric]

Create a seperate folder, DL the v4 no-nonsense console. Make sure that you run with -local and -verbosity 9 flags (of course in addition to the -advmethods and -forcesse).

What part of Indy Alf? I used to live out on the south side.

[alf]

i already have the no nonsense console, im just going to delete and reinstall and add the flags to the new version, hamilton county (but not in carmel)

[mmonnin]

Sounds like a plan. Let us know how it works out.

[Leonardo]

Create a seperate folder, DL the v4 no-nonsense console. Make sure that you run with -local and -verbosity 9 flags (of course in addition to the -advmethods and -forcesse).
OK, here's your opportunity to educate me. What do the -local and -verbosity flags accomplish?

[Thrax]

Verbosity increases the amount of information recorded to the log file. I'm not sure as to the purpose of the -local flag.

[Geeky1]

-local makes sure the client uses the information in the client.cfg file instead of reading from the registry.

[witenoiz]

I think in one thread it was established that with the no-nonsense console version you have no place to enter flags.. I am using both Fah3Console and Fah4Console on the computers in my office and basement :fold: - none with any ((-local -verbosity 9 or the -advmethods and -forcesse )) flags. Only a few are in my start-up folders. Since you are on cable I would guess you leave your computer running all the time so just keep it simple :crazy: delete everything you have downloaded from Stanford, and start over. Answer the questions with your name Alf team 93 and no no no and I'll bet it will work fine. You WILL process a Tinker the first time. :woowoo: I have a friend that works for the city of Indianapolis - his name is Bill - would you say Hi for me? Thanks - Jack

[mmonnin]

Thrax and Geeky1 are right about the flags. I dont think local as any use anymore. Its not really needed.

[witenoiz]

Alf - I don't know where you are with whatever you have been doing but this looks like you have about every version Stanford has to offer running all at the same time :confused2 Now here is friday
"--- Opening Log file [March 5 21:45:13]


# Windows Graphical Edition ################################################## #

Folding@home Client Version 3.24

http://foldingathome.stanford.edu
email:help@foldingathome.stanford.edu

Arguments: -advmethods -forceasm

[21:45:13] - Ask before connecting: No
[21:45:13] - User name: alf (Team 93)
:confused2
I think you need to clean this folder up a little. Jack

[alf]

i uninstalled the whole thing in add or remove programs and just started over with the version 4.0. It seems to be working well and its doing a tinker. We'll see if it works once the tinker finishes. I'm crossing my fingers.

[witenoiz]

I'll cross my fingers too. :rockon: Jack

[edcentric]

I have to use local since my machines are on dial up and I have multiple instances runnig. If I don't they sometimes forget which config to use and try to use each others. A real mess.
For the console you either use the start up or a short cut and put the flags there.

[alf]

well it didnt work, sorry guys ill be taking a break until i get a new computer (this may)

[EyesOnly]

What didn't work and don't blame the comp. My p2 works just fine. Here's what to do.

Go to this site (http://home.comcast.net/~wxdude1/emsite/download.html) and download a program called em3. It will help you monitor your progress. There's a guide there on how to install it.

Go here (http://www.overclockers.com.au/folding/service-nt2000xpnew.htm) for a guide to install fah as a service using a program called firedeamon. If you install it as a service then fah will still run even if you log out. The guide is a bit old but that doesn't matter i've had no problems following it.

In the guide there is a line that says that you should add the service tag as a parameter. In the section you should also add the flags mentioned in this thread.

That's all. Try it and get back to as. Setting up fah does take some time but when it's done you can forget about it.

[mmonnin]

He is having problems with WUs finishing. FAH is already set up.

[EyesOnly]

Oh ok. Then it must be his comp then.

[alf]

actually i got it to work with a gromacs, there seems to be a problem with the tinkers (hence why it took 5 days) and ill try to work it out

[profdlp]

Hang in there, alf - we respect your tenacity. :respect:

There are lots of fringe benefits that come with Folding. It helps motivate us to keep our computers in top shape and examine what is going on with them in ways we may not otherwise think of.

You've been through the mill, but you are learning things about how your computer works that can only help you down the road.

:thumbup :fold:

[EyesOnly]

Good to here that it at least folding something. Let's hope you get it fixed. There's nothing worse then having a broken rig and not being able to figure out what's wrong.

[witenoiz]

Alf I am proud of you for the continued effort. :D I just noticed since last we spoke, you are up 2 units :celebrate Way to go DOOD!!! Jack