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Dexter
23 May 2004, 9:45am
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=93
In 160 days, Team Short-Media will be passed by Team SAGoons.
:rarr: :rarr: :rarr:
Fold, people, fold like mad!!
:fold: :fold: :fold:
Dexter...
EyesOnly
23 May 2004, 12:57pm
i saw that too. This is bad. :bawling:
TheGr81
23 May 2004, 1:39pm
Bah! Power went out. :thumbsdow
Clutch
23 May 2004, 3:16pm
Point for them is crazy, we have to add more power. I'm working on a 249 and a 128 pointer right now, should be in probably tommorow sometime.
I'm more insulted by the Macintosh team besting us in 550 days. WTF? Honestly.
Dexter
23 May 2004, 3:47pm
Ya, but Team Mac is almost 2 years away, lots of time to work against them. Team SAGoons are 5 months from overtaking us, and it doesn't look good for us to be able to stop them: they have a 27,000 point per day advantage on us! We need to add like 1000 processors to fend that off!
Dexter...
mmonnin
23 May 2004, 4:04pm
I am more worried about that.
...Wow. I didn't realize we were on such a disfavorable downward trend. :(
TheGr81
23 May 2004, 4:19pm
I am more worried about that.
...Ouch
profdlp
23 May 2004, 4:37pm
Some of our downward slope is due to the point value of recent WU's. If you check other top ten teams you'll see something similar. The SAGoons have been adding new members like crazy and their line is flat. You can also check the graph of some of our heavy-hitters like csimon and Jake (buroja) whose arsenal has been consistent for a while; their line is down, too.
None of which obviates the need for new recruits.
:wave: :fold:
MrBill
23 May 2004, 8:40pm
I'll be doing some system swapping soon. I am buying a dual Xeon board from hotrodsun which will likely get filled with a pair of 2.4ghz HT Xeons.
This should be the first of two duallies. I will be parting out my single cpu boxes during the process of building these. I don't know what the net difference will be, but it will be a gain. ;)
mmonnin
23 May 2004, 9:16pm
My line is going straight across.:D
Actually, slightly upwards.
KingFish
24 May 2004, 12:29am
Also part of the downward trend is t1rhino's losses. I think in the long term the 'goons will fizzle out until the next politically correct project comes out but for now they surely are a big threat. I don't look forward to the day that they pass us. We need a better recruiting mousetrap.
KF
TheGr81
24 May 2004, 12:38am
I'm more insulted by the Macintosh team besting us in 550 days. WTF? Honestly.
Yeah that really sucks. Do Macs carry any of the instruction sets that Athlons and P4s do? And what kinda speeds do the newer ones run at?
MrBill
24 May 2004, 2:36am
I'll be doing some system swapping soon. I am buying a dual Xeon board from hotrodsun which will likely get filled with a pair of 2.4ghz HT Xeons.
I just ordered a pair of 2.66ghz Xeons. I haven't bought an Intel processor since the P3-500 I bought 5 years or so ago.
Gargoyle
24 May 2004, 4:12am
Yeah that really sucks. Do Macs carry any of the instruction sets that Athlons and P4s do? And what kinda speeds do the newer ones run at?
My guess is that a lot of people switched to the team to show their Mac pride; I don't think they're strong because of a processor type advantage. Now if the fanboys had an all-AMD team or an all-Intel team, then that would be something to be worried about!
primesuspect
24 May 2004, 4:15am
I wish the people who came here for OmegaSearch help would fold. If every single one of them joined the team, that would be a huge increase.....
csimon
24 May 2004, 5:22am
definitely!
DogSoldier
24 May 2004, 9:58am
True, we don't promote the Folding aspect enough. When I first accessed this site, it was to learn about flashing video cards.. Hey! Free tutorials to improve your computer!.. DC wasn't something I was familiar with and I believe that applies to most newbies. When I looked at the sigs referring to "Folding", I was intrigued but at the same time .. intimidated, it looked a bit "clannish". To remove some of the mystery, we should have a banner.. "Interested in Folding for Short-Media!?" and link it to a section that explains what Folding and Distributed Computing is.
Dexter
24 May 2004, 11:09am
/me looks at his sig.....
Doing my part to have the "hard sell" in the Security forums :)
Dexter...
primesuspect
24 May 2004, 1:18pm
One question that I get asked a lot is "What is folding"...
even though we have 10,000 things that explain what folding is, people don't click or look I guess. One thing that would be easy is a single paragraph, well thought-out and well written, and easy to understand, in all layman's terms, explaining what folding is. If it was a single paragraph we could either link to it or just cut and paste it into a post.
I think the team short-media page should have something like that as the primary attention-grabber and it should be the first thing people see when they go to www.short-media.com/folding.php
The team short-media page is great for existing team members, but for a noob, it is cryptic. Especially the kind of noobs that get infected with spyware and have a lower skill set than the majority here.
dragonV8
24 May 2004, 1:25pm
Jonshandbrake is still down on points due to ongoing problems. I'll be home from the mine next week and will be helping Sally trying to get back up to speed. Her behind the keyboard, me making the coffee, lol.
Going to change over standard cpu heatsinks with Aerocool HT101's. (hope you are correct Geeky1, lol :thumbsup: ). Got Sally's fans to exchange with papst ones and change over 1 more Northbridge heatsink on one of the Asus mobo's with a blue Zalman one as it has a very small one without a fan.
Though it may not produce more points, it will stop them from producing whilst they are stripped down for the mods. All going well, she'll be back to normal and no more serious problems. :thumbsup:
edcentric
24 May 2004, 1:45pm
If you guys have had the storms that we have, then your production would be down too.
And we have a lot of members going home from school for summer. Remember to get those boxes back up and running.
dragonV8
24 May 2004, 1:51pm
One question that I get asked a lot is "What is folding"...
even though we have 10,000 things that explain what folding is, people don't click or look I guess. One thing that would be easy is a single paragraph, well thought-out and well written, and easy to understand, in all layman's terms, explaining what folding is. If it was a single paragraph we could either link to it or just cut and paste it into a post.
I think the team short-media page should have something like that as the primary attention-grabber and it should be the first thing people see when they go to www.short-media.com/folding.php
The team short-media page is great for existing team members, but for a noob, it is cryptic. Especially the kind of noobs that get infected with spyware and have a lower skill set than the majority here.
This may not be what you have had in mind, however it is food for thought.
CURE FOR CANCER
CURE FOR ALZHEIMERS DISEASE
(click here to find out more)
Link: Did you know computer users ALL over the world donate some of their computer power to search for a cure together with Stanford University's research team.
Here at Short-Media we strongly believe in helping mankind. Do you know someone, a loved one perhaps that has suffered from these diseases?
Unfortunately too many of us have.
2 things Short-Media does extremely well.
Help people with ANY type of computer problem.
Assist Stanford with cancer/alzheimer disease research.
Do you appreciate the FREE help from this forum?
WE KNOW Stanford appreciates our FREE help with their research.
Why not check it out or ask one of our members about it.
Team #93 proudly folding for a cause. :fold:
Jon A.
time for sm23 lets get going. Gonna add a 750 duron and a 1900+ tonight for folding
i keep getting WU that are 5000 to calculate
EyesOnly
24 May 2004, 4:01pm
5000!!! holy crap. Hey dragon that sounded really nice. Just a thought. Say something about only running the graphics version. The console is far more difficult to setup even though it's most certainly worth it, newcomers might be scared when they see everything they must do.
Just tell them to run the graphical and at least they're folding. :) :fold:
Just a thought. BTw how about sending a missionary over to the saggoons to "convert" them to us. :D
A buddy gave me a 1.6 p4 and a stick of ram and I bought a mobo from ghoosdum ( Thanks Rob ) I had it up about a week ago and it has already turned in 7 WU's. I stole the hard drive and lan port from a 500 presario so really only added a 1.1 ghz. I now have 5 machines running in my basement office(and two upstairs ). It used to be a steady 70 degrees in the office, now my office is closer to 80 but I will turn to alternate cooling before I shut anything off.
8 Clients on 7 machines for 11.75 ghz folding power all for team 92 ( I mean 93 :) )
Jon I like your paragraph ! Sorry to hear about Sallys machine trouble. She is currently my only threat. But for the sake of the team....Lets get her going !
Scott
dragonV8
25 May 2004, 12:10pm
Jon I like your paragraph ! Sorry to hear about Sallys machine trouble. She is currently my only threat. But for the sake of the team....Lets get her going !
Scott
Thanks guys. Wish i had more literary skills. (got expelled from High school at 14, lol)
Talking to Sally last night, she said she may give it another go to get the problem puter(s) back up and running. If it does not go well for her, i'll be home next monday with LOTS of moral support, hehehe.
Hopefully next week we'll be back with more strength to get greater distance between us and the SAGoons.
Jon A.
Leonardo
25 May 2004, 12:56pm
Some of our downward slope is due to the point value of recent WU's. Yes, correct. My scores have declined; and I've even temporarily added a Barton XP2500+ machine. Need more Double Gromacs!
Agreed on changing the Folding invitation. Need something like the suggestions above, or "Would you like to join our scientific research team? We're hot, we're smart, and we invite you to join the fun. It's easy. Be a hero!"
janelynch
25 May 2004, 8:50pm
As one of the newbies who joined after an omegasearch episode (although this was not my fault) (and I would like to say I am relatively computer literate if not to your esteemed standards) I agree with the need to have a more obvious lead into 'folding'.
The only reason I knew what 'folding for a cure' meant was because of my exposure to biochemistry. Even after deciding to go ahead and join it took me several leads/backtracks to get to the stage where I could download the programme.
I think that given the wonerfully clear guide to omegaseaerch removal that you guys have produced then something similar to introduce folding would be great.
Leonardo
26 May 2004, 2:43am
Thanks for the feedback Jane. ....and thank you for becoming a fellow member of the team! :thumbsup:
profdlp
26 May 2004, 3:11am
Great ideas, Jane!
BTW: Nice avatar - you need an official S-M Folding Signature (http://www.teamshort-media.com/stats/generator/) to round things out. :)
Prime has hit it right on the head. We need to be fairly aggressive in asking people to join us when we fix their spyware filled machines.
The more research I do to learn how to combat spyware, the more I run into links to SM articles (on google). This is our goldmine. It never hurts to ask people to help us. I'm even going to start asking people in the replies to spyware problems I answer.
yep 5000 :) about to break 6K though
DogSoldier
30 May 2004, 7:42pm
K, I've had to put my second machine up for sale as I'll be needing the cash to tide me over til my EI kicks in. I'll also be losing my old workstation at the office (Soon as they figure out that the lil red icon isn't critical to operating the computer..) and I've already lost the server. So soon, I'll be down to one machine. I'm confident the situation will get better in the coming months, just right now.. things don't look so hot.
oCoMiK
31 May 2004, 1:54am
True, we don't promote the Folding aspect enough. When I first accessed this site, it was to learn about flashing video cards.. Hey! Free tutorials to improve your computer!.. DC wasn't something I was familiar with and I believe that applies to most newbies. When I looked at the sigs referring to "Folding", I was intrigued but at the same time .. intimidated, it looked a bit "clannish". To remove some of the mystery, we should have a banner.. "Interested in Folding for Short-Media!?" and link it to a section that explains what Folding and Distributed Computing is.
As a new member, no one has even ventured to ask me if I would be interested in joining the folding effort. I don't take it personally and perhaps it's because I'm a SETI guy.
My point is, if this is a big promotional item for SM, then it might make sense to make an attempt to get more new members folding.
I'm not saying take a pushy used car salesmen approach with new members but just include something about SM's folding effort when new members are greeted.
Just my two cents....
Ocomik
www.ocomik.net
www.ocomik.net/blog/index.html
csimon
31 May 2004, 2:12am
As a new member, no one has even ventured to ask me if I would be interested in joining the folding effort. I don't take it personally and perhaps it's because I'm a SETI guy.
My point is, if this is a big promotional item for SM, then it might make sense to make an attempt to get more new members folding.
I'm not saying take a pushy used car salesmen approach with new members but just include something about SM's folding effort when new members are greeted.
Just my two cents....
Ocomik
www.ocomik.net
www.ocomik.net/blog/index.html
Wanna fold? I mean ET was so last year!!! :fold:;D:fold:
MrBill
31 May 2004, 2:24am
Nobody here would ever ask someone to join the folding team right off the bat....
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=143365&highlight=folding#post143365
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121171&highlight=folding#post121171
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=119921&highlight=folding#post119921
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59158&highlight=folding#post59158
:D;D
oCoMiK
31 May 2004, 2:42am
Nobody here would ever ask someone to join the folding team right off the bat....
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=143365&highlight=folding#post143365
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121171&highlight=folding#post121171
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=119921&highlight=folding#post119921
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59158&highlight=folding#post59158
:D;D
After seeing your links, I guess I will take it personal :bawling:
MrBill
31 May 2004, 2:51am
After seeing your links, I guess I will take it personal :bawling:
Sorry...that was not the intent.
I think some do ask right away, but I also think I saw where it was thought to not be a good idea as it could run somebody off before they get to know the community here.
TheGr81
31 May 2004, 3:04am
I wasn't asked to fold. I showed a little bit of interest it and was practically forced to. ;D
qparadox
31 May 2004, 3:10am
I got up over 5000 for the first time last week and I've got another CPU on the way. Just gotta mate it with a new NFII board and I should be cooking another 750 PPW. I'm also building 2 computers for customers which will remain at my place for 2 weeks while they're away to "burn in" heh. They paid up front in cash too ^^.
SM17 almost broke 600 but couldn't quite make it. If the damn power would stay on she'd hit 600 I'm sure as long as she gets a couple nice tinkers.
mmonnin
31 May 2004, 11:15pm
I think Keebler says something about FAH when he greets all the new members.
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