Help! My HD is blocked! and i can't acces no more!

[Don't care just need help]

help! erm... i have blocked my own pc for security resons but now i can't acces myselve! how can i gain acces back??? can't enter-download-or see C:/ or My Computer, or Configurationscreen please help!

[Lord_Night]

1. do you boot to winodws,
2. is it passworded.
3. did you use a program to do this with.
4. if it does boot can you boot to safe mode and see it there
5. can you only see it in dos mode..


a few things I need to know to see if we can fix it..

[ChrisK]

also what OS are you running?

[Don't care just need help]

Ok, i run Win XP Home,

Yes the HD is passworded,
I can only login on Guest,
I cannot go to administrator no more,
and well, as a guest i can't do anything no more :'(

[Don't care just need help]

Ow and i can't see it in dos mode :S

[Lord_Night]

Well
If you can no longer access Admin mode, in either normal mode or safe mode.
not much we can do here but start over.

the dos mode I am talking of is booting from a dos diskette in the A drive. not from the windows command prompt, that is not a true dos.

if you access the bios does it show a hdd listed there.

let us know these last two things.. and I can let you know the next step.

[Don't care just need help]

well i don't have a boot disk :wtf: and when i log in bios i Can see it

[pokesquid808]

you could try ntpassword and reset the password. i mightbe misunderstanding what you are saying. did you say you could log in as guest? as long as you can see the login screen there is a good chance ntpassword will work. ntpassword is part of the ultimate boot cd. you can download the iso here

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

burn the iso using nero or your burning program and boot the cd and run ntpassword. don't remember which menu it's under. hope this helps.

[ickster33a16]

i really do ask why are some people so stupid there is no need to password protect you hard drive what you do pick up a copie of pc cillin or norton anti virus and they do all the work

ps (personl tip i learnt this one ...dont f*** around with stuff u know nothing about0

hope u get it fix m8


cheers

[Thrax]

help! erm... i have blocked my own pc for security resons but now i can't acces myselve! how can i gain acces back??? can't enter-download-or see C:/ or My Computer, or Configurationscreen please help!


Log in as administrator and right click on C:\ in windows explorer. Hit properties.

Change the owner to everyone, and add everyone as a user. Make sure you let the changes propagate to child and parent objects.


i really do ask why are some people so stupid there is no need to password protect you hard drive what you do pick up a copie of pc cillin or norton anti virus and they do all the work

That's not true at all. PC Cillin and Norton Antivirus will not protect your computer from intrusion due to a lack of password protection on accounts, or proper configuration of user ownership.

[ickster33a16]

hey thrax ive had pc cillin for as long as i can remember and i havent had a single problem no hackers no nothing

(ps he said he cant log in as administrator)

[ickster33a16]

and what program did he password protect it with most of the time those programs have a back up or a fail safe program and maybe if he tried looking in the sam files in ntdos

[Thrax]

That simply means no one's come along to give you a problem. That's the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Just because you installed PC Cillin doesn't mean the subsequent security is a result of PC Cillin. Technically speaking, PCC only protects you from viruses.

It doesn't protect hard drives or your PC from intrusion.

[ickster33a16]

why doesnt he just encrpyt his hadrive with windows or sumfing that would of been safer..



ive seen his name in soo many post about problems but ah well we where all like this at one stage

[Thrax]

Because it's an unnecessary step for a home user.

[ickster33a16]

well all i can suggest then is xp pro (bit more secure and getting sp2 as sp2 blocks most of the ports hacker and the rest of the stuff use (which means he will probally most likeley have to format

[Don't care just need help]

well guys.... u bought a new hdd and i will start all over, thanks anyway for all your trouble


Chouw!

[ickster33a16]

ummmm how big was ur last one???

and why didnt you just format???

[Straight_Man]

Ok, just one BIG thing to avoid once you have started over:

Please do not encrypt your whole XP boot drive as administrator, just encrypt things you make that you want encrypted. IF the Password files get not only encrypted by XP, which is normally how I set up boxes, but you use XP also to encrypt the whole drive, you end up with XP unable to authenticate anyone to log in-- what it needs is double-encrypted. Windows loads the secondary encryption stuff AFTER login auth.

Some people encrypt My Documents (that is ok if you want to do that), or certain folders they keep things in (ok so long as it is not the whole Windows folder or root of your boot volume), but encrypting the whole boot volume will leave you locked out of the PC. Only way I know to recover is to start over on a new drive, then UNENCRYPT your encrypted volume, then recover your data to your new install.

There ARE ways to accomplish this with other programs, as mentioned, too. BUT, XP can do this itself, in Pro version, if you tell it to. I've come close to managing it a couple times, and have maged to recover a few boxes like this, but doing so is neither EASY nor simple nor quick. Best of luck with your new install, and do NOT let XP expire your user passwords either, if it asks for a new password, give it one and remember the new one. Chances are, one of those two things happened, normal user and admin passwords were allowed to expire, or someone encrypted the whole boot volume, or BOTH.

[ickster33a16]

XP passwords start out with no expirary date......some someone has fiddeled around with it some where