Temperature

[SpywareShooter]

How do I tell the temp that my computer is running at? I have 4 years of dust inside this that I am going to clean out soon (hopefully getting some compressed air Monday), and I want to see how warm the computer is running. I believe there is a setting in the BIOS, but eMachines blocked out the whole BIOS. Is there something I can download?

[Thrax]

You could get a program called Motherboard Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) -- it reports voltages, temperatures, clockspeeds and other such things in handy tables and real-time meters. Also the motherboard information tool in SiSoft Sandra (http://www.sisoftware.net/) reports the temperature of the case and the CPU if those temperature sensors are provided

[SpywareShooter]

Are those programs free to download? And do they use any RAM, or have an icon in the system tray that may cause increased booting time?

[Thrax]

They're both free to download. You are given the option to run them at login and have them loaded in resident memory, however it's not necessary.

[Access_Denied]

spyware shooter i have a emachine too.. just boot to bios, then go over to hardware moneter and it should tell you the cpu fan speed and temp

edit: its 72F in here now and my cpu is at 34C.. im a dummy with standard and metric conversion so somebody might could correct that.. :scratch: ;D

[SpywareShooter]

I can't boot to the BIOS. I tried every key on my keyboard when i'm booting, none of them work.

This one is four years old, and is a eTower 566i2.

[SpywareShooter]

Well I downloaded MBM but it kept saying 0ºC, so I uninstaled it. I don't know where on the site to download the second one.

[Thrax]

You need to configure the proper thermosistor for your motherboard within MBM. It's a guess and check process.

As for not being able to find the second.. :scratch:

[SpywareShooter]

Well I guess I'll download MBM again. But where do I configure the thermosistor?

[Access_Denied]

hmm that sounds odd that you cant get into bios... im sure that you have already tryed Delete so honestly i dont know what to tell ya. :(

[SpywareShooter]

I just tried del and it worked! But there is nothing inside the BIOS that tells the temp.

[Leonardo]

I have 4 years of dust inside this that I am going to clean out soon (hopefully getting some compressed air Monday) Glad you've decided to clean your computer. You don't have to wait for the compressed air. I clean my computers religiously; but I use very little canned, compressed air. If you have a cannistor or upright vacuum cleaner with reversible air flow (or shop vac), tape off all but a small opening on the crevice tool attachment. Reverse airflow, and you'll have a powerful blowing device. BUT, before you simply blow great clouds of dust throughout your whole house, use the vac in normal mode, removing as much loose dust and lint balls as possible. Use a soft pantbrush to remove stubborn stuff from the fans and other surfaces.

Four years? Unless your computer been in an exceptionally clean environment, you may be shocked by the looks of things. ;D

[Geeky1]

I have 4 years of dust inside this that I am going to clean out soon

PICS!!

A lot of OEM machines, old ones in particular, don't hae any hardware monitoring support at all. If none of the thermistors in MBM work, you're probably SOL.

[SpywareShooter]

I don't have a vaccuum with reverse air flow :(. And this hasn't been in a very clean environment. I can see tons of dust inside just by looking through the small vents in the side.

Geeky1, what do you mean pics? I don't have a digital camera, if you want me to take pics of the inside. Also, MBM had around 1108 results for motherboards... how do I tell which one is mine? emachines.com said that it is a Cognac, but they are not in the list on MBM.

[Geeky1]

Yeah, I was hoping for pics of the dust bunnies :D

And if it's a Trigem Cognac board you can just give up now; it doesn't support hardware monitoring.

[SpywareShooter]

Blah that sucks. So is there any other way to tell the temp?

[Thrax]

You could buy a temperature probe of your own.

[Clutch]

I feel that you are down the creek without a paddle my friend. I'm surprised that there isn't any type of hardware monitoring settings in the bios though. With 4 years of dust camping out inside your case, I'm sure you will notice the difference.

[Straight_Man]

Spywareshooter:

Try these Sequences:

CTRL-F1
F1
F2
F10
CTRL-F10
F11
CTRL-F11
F12
CTRL-F12

Now, for the ones that used CTRL to start, substitute ALT with same function key.
(all those have been used by OEMS in the past, as WELL as Delete). Oh, you get to do it while the eMACHINEs LOGO screen is up and only then, if you hit delete several times and machine starts clicking, press F1 (to continue past keyboard input buffer error that clicks are signalling), THEN tap Delete once the logo screen appears.

I asked one OEM why they used F1, they said it was to get to the bios setup helper program, SO..... No, I'm NOT kidding....

[Thrax]

He already got into his BIOS, John. That problem was solved at 11:49 PM yesterday.

[Geeky1]

I feel that you are down the creek without a paddle my friend. I'm surprised that there isn't any type of hardware monitoring settings in the bios though. With 4 years of dust camping out inside your case, I'm sure you will notice the difference.

I doubt it. The Trigem Cognac is a PPGA Celeron motherboard; I've had the misfortune of having to deal with them in other machines (HPs) before. The PPGA celerons are so damn slow that I doubt that it's running at much over 100-110*F, even though it hasn't been touched for years.

[muddocktor]

I doubt it. The Trigem Cognac is a PPGA Celeron motherboard; I've had the misfortune of having to deal with them in other machines (HPs) before. The PPGA celerons are so damn slow that I doubt that it's running at much over 100-110*F, even though it hasn't been touched for years.

You are right on that one, Geeky. Those older Intel machines are incredibly forgiving on dust buildup because the procs output a lot less heat than the newer stuff. I'm really curious to see how the Presshot procs are going to hold up with a few years of dustbunnies built up in all those oem dells and hp's they are selling now. Maybe we'll see a few fires. ;) ;D

[Geeky1]

well considering that the prescotts don't run all that hot, i doubt it'll be a problem...

[muddocktor]

I'm not talking about the procs themselves, per se. It's the pwm fets I'm thinking about that the Presshots load up so highly on a lot of boards. What do you think is going to happen when 2 years of dust and fur build up around those when they are already running hot as hell on a clean mobo on a lot of the socket 478 mobo's using the Springdale chipset? ;D

[Geeky1]

fur? where?! ;-)

Yeah, if you're talking about the power circuitry, we might have a problem... I just get sick of people criticizing the Prescott for running hot when it doesn't (the high temp. readings were/are caused by inaccurate sensors and/or algorithms used to interpret sensor readings on the part of the motherboard and bios) :)

[Thrax]

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