SM LAN 2005 - The First Thread [Archive]

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 1:54am

It's time. Time to start the excitement building, and the anticipation for the 5-6 month wait before the next SM LAN.

I called Deebe's today, and found out that George is selling the place :eek3:

He hasn't found a buyer yet... The insane, twisted, and masochistic entrepreneur in me wants to buy it, and open a gaming cafe and use the basement for sarcnet and short-media corporate offices. Not that I've thought about it in much detail or anything :eek3:

But as things stand now, SM LAN 05 will NOT be held at Deebe's..... So step 1 is securing a location. Which we will very likely have to pay for :(

Let's start with the dates.

I'm thinking June 17-19, 2005. This would be after finals for most of the college students, and after school ends for you parents of elementary/middle school-age kids.

leishi85

8 Dec 2004, 2:11am

bah, my finals are in april.

entropy

8 Dec 2004, 2:16am

I could pull that off (date-wise) :). If it's in Michigan... I mightmightmight be able to go. Maybe I could get my mom to take Mike (Mc.Dubs) and me, and have his parents get us. Or something. If it was closer, it'd be cool, but I realize (and understand) that a good location is hard, and that I don't have much say ;D. I really want to try to get there, though.

EMT

8 Dec 2004, 2:17am

If it's going to be in the Midwest (which now seems up in the air) I'd prefer a weekend when I'm still in Illinois, more like sometime in May. But I doubt that applies to anyone else...

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 2:23am

Well if I'm still planning it, it will be in michigan, that much I can tell you.

Entropy, you're practically next door! Why, you're just a lake-hop and a four hour drive away! ;D

although hopping the lake may prove to be problematic.......

Camman

8 Dec 2004, 2:42am

Definitly excellent dates for me.

entropy

8 Dec 2004, 2:48am

Entropy, you're practically next door! Why, you're just a lake-hop and a four hour drive away! ;D
OH! Dude!! I totally forgot. I'll have my license by January (should have it already, but that's another story...). I could drive there myself! And Mike! So all I'd need is permission :eek:. Bo-frickin'-nus.

although hopping the lake may prove to be problematic.......
Nonsense. Don't you know I can fly? :)

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 2:48am

Hey! We don't want YOU there, Cam! :rarr:

TheGr81

8 Dec 2004, 3:10am

Nonsense. Don't you know I can fly? :)
Now if only I could fly...

entropy

8 Dec 2004, 3:13am

Now if only I could fly...
You can. Just think happy thoughts. And jump out a second story window...

(What a great lesson to teach our kids, hey?)

shwaip

8 Dec 2004, 3:20am

If it's going to be in the Midwest (which now seems up in the air) I'd prefer a weekend when I'm still in Illinois, more like sometime in May. But I doubt that applies to anyone else...

The same holds for me.

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 3:21am

hahah yeah, the first time the kids watched Peter Pan (the new one) me and the wife paused the movie and we're like "DON'T DO THAT - This is just a movie! It's fake! You can't really fly!" as they sat there all wide-eyed at that part..... ;D

Clutch

8 Dec 2004, 3:41am

YES! finally the talk of the ultimate fragalicious ( is that a word? ) lan party.

I don't care where it is, I will be there baby :) as long as someone can pick me up from the airport :D

Entropy, you have to be there, and that is the bottom line ;D

If we have to rent a place, that is fine. I'm sure we can raise enough money, we got a good group on our hands.

mmonnin

8 Dec 2004, 4:38am

Damn, it will be moving time around that weekend. I think our current one is up the last week of June so we will have to move into a new one a little bit before that.

keto

8 Dec 2004, 8:42am

OOH! OOH! I go to the states in April on business every year. No firm dates yet (It'll be for a week) but if the LAN timing is right, I could just tack a few days on my trip and hop over, assuming we're not going to San Diego or something. No location set yet, it changes every year.

Thrax

8 Dec 2004, 9:20am

I'll be there.

Cyclonite

8 Dec 2004, 3:49pm

I wanna go! I wanna go! I wanna go!

QCH

8 Dec 2004, 3:53pm

I'm out... I will be on Vacation in Florida until June 21st then my finals are on June 23rd. After that, I'm open until September.

July 18 - July 31 had the most vote aside from the "whenever" group. LAN Poll (http://short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14338&highlight=LAN+Dates)
I'd hate to make Ocomik sound like a savant (idiot savant) but June would leave me out of the mix.... :shakehead

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 5:36pm

Let me preface this whole discussion with:

Since deebe's is apparently not going to be the venue, the dates are way up in the air right now.

Crazy Joe

8 Dec 2004, 6:33pm

Well I don't know what my class schedule is for the Summer yet, after that I"ll know when I'll be free... Team Nexlia needs to make another apprearance... Oh and we get Sharky on our UT2k4 Team!!

primesuspect

8 Dec 2004, 6:34pm

Hey man. YOU CAN HAVE THAT DAMNED SHARKYDART... Just meet me in DM_Lockdown and I'll have a few TOILETS for your FACE (That was a Half Life 2 DM reference, in case you didn't catch that) :rarr:

Lincoln

8 Dec 2004, 6:57pm

June 16-25 and July 7-16 are out for me :-/ I'm sure I'll make it out for a holiday or two again anyway...

entropy

9 Dec 2004, 3:22am

I ran those dates by my mom. FRICKING YEAH! So long as it's in the summer, looks like I have a fairly good chance of going. She said we'll bring Mike, and then they can go do stuff with my bro and make a weekend of it. Probably has to be only a 4 or 5 hour drive, though. Won't let me drive myself there :rolleyes:. Looks sweet so far!

profdlp

9 Dec 2004, 3:26am

...Won't let me drive myself there :rolleyes:. Looks sweet so far!
Would you trust your car to a guy with eyebrows jumping around like that? ;D

I hope to see you there. :)

entropy

9 Dec 2004, 3:41am

Whahuh? Nahhh. You've got it backwards, prof. The eyebrows are clearly a sign of an excellent driver. I mean, I'm always looking around, right? :D

No no, I think the real question here is - Would YOU trust YOUR car to a moose? :eek: ;D

profdlp

9 Dec 2004, 4:30am

You have a point... :rolleyes:

SimGuy

9 Dec 2004, 4:34am

June works for me! The snow should be melted by then :)

Clutch

9 Dec 2004, 11:29pm

You don't want to drive around those damn crazy Michigan drivers, trust me.

Geeky1

10 Dec 2004, 1:21am

You don't want to drive around those damn crazy Michigan drivers, trust me.

Heh. You've never been to California. Admittedly, I haven't been to Michigan either, but I suspect that California drivers (myself included) are worse. :D

Thrax

10 Dec 2004, 2:34am

You don't want to drive around those damn crazy Michigan drivers, trust me.

We drive just fine. Apparently you and your Mustang don't. ;D

primesuspect

10 Dec 2004, 2:42am

Mondi has spent a lot of time driving in both cali and detroit... We should ask him who's worse....

Clutch

10 Dec 2004, 3:57am

We drive just fine. Apparently you and your Mustang don't. ;D

You saw what that guy did to my baby, damn crazy drivers.

mmonnin

10 Dec 2004, 5:01am

From what I have seen they are fine and I drive in Columbus.

TheSmJ

10 Dec 2004, 5:29am

Depends on when I can get time out of work... ;)

Obviously whenever/wherever it will be, I'll make it somehow.

Gargoyle

10 Dec 2004, 6:17am

As long as it's not the weekend of May 14th, I might be able to go. I'll be all graduated and stuff in a week, so it's just a matter of taking some vacation time from work :thumbsup:

pokesquid808

10 Dec 2004, 9:26am

Heh. You've never been to California. Admittedly, I haven't been to Michigan either, but I suspect that California drivers (myself included) are worse. :D

California drivers suck!!!!! i make a hour and a half commute to work everyday, LA traffic. i can't stand it.! but yeah out of everywhere i have driven (all the way to the east coast and back) california is probably the worst in terms of amount of cars to amoutn of stupid drivers :scratch:

Geeky1

10 Dec 2004, 9:33am

Oh they're not all stupid. Some of them, like me, are just insane. :D

checkmate

14 Dec 2004, 2:33pm

As long as it's not too far than I'm in! I've got a good feeling about this one guys. :Rocker: Oh Yeah! Just lay out the dates and place. :headbange

GHoosdum

29 Dec 2004, 3:37pm

I am not entirely certain about June dates - my family reunion is sometime in June this year, so one week (I don't know what week) in June is out for me. The only other time that is out is August. May or July are definitely OK for me.

Brian, do you have any places up there that are already set up as coffee and gamer bars? I could imagine a place like that being a suitable location - and some would even have rigs that folks could rent if they have to travel too far...

Kwitko

29 Dec 2004, 4:37pm

We drive just fine. Apparently you and your Mustang don't. ;D

I've driven all around the NYC Metro area, and I can say, without a shred of doubt, that MI drivers are by far the worst. They speed, they don't signal, they change lanes without looking.

As a seasoned NYC driver, I can say this with confidence.

primesuspect

29 Dec 2004, 5:00pm

Amazingly, there are NO gaming cafes in my area. The closest is over 40 miles away. I find it hard to believe, but it is true.

McBain

29 Dec 2004, 5:28pm

Ya know...my buddy always wanted to open one up around here...just figured there wouldn't be a market for it b/c everyone has broadband now. I think that 3-4 years ago it could have worked....back when there was that huge LPB v HPB debate and such.

primesuspect

29 Dec 2004, 5:40pm

I believe there is a market for it.

McBain

29 Dec 2004, 5:50pm

Really? I mean...I just don't know how it'd work.

EgoShowcase

30 Dec 2004, 5:30am

I'm out... I will be on Vacation in Florida until June 21st then my finals are on June 23rd. After that, I'm open until September.

I'd hate to make Ocomik sound like a savant (idiot savant) but June would leave me out of the mix.... :shakehead

Count me out if QCH cant go. Way to much fun last yea with him and Ocomik.

QCH

30 Dec 2004, 3:36pm

Count me out if QCH cant go. Way to much fun last yea with him and Ocomik.

Awwww... I'm touched.... :scratch: No, not Mantouched, emotionally touched.... ;D

profdlp

31 Dec 2004, 9:42am

Awwww... I'm touched.... :scratch: No, not Mantouched, emotionally touched.... ;D
I think simply "touched" is adequate in your case. :vimp:

Before anyone reaches the point of despair, remember that the whole idea of this thread is to work out as many kinks as possible beforehand. I hope to be there and see every one of you.

Or else. :D

oCoMiK

11 Jan 2005, 5:28am

Count me out if QCH is going!

Mad props to Team Nexlia... duuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

I've been waiting months to say that :0

GHoosdum

11 Jan 2005, 3:17pm

Count me out if QCH is going!

Mad props to Team Nexlia... duuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

I've been waiting months to say that :0

O... M... F... G... ;D

primesuspect

11 Jan 2005, 3:52pm

hahahahahahahha team nexliaaaeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

pigflipper

24 Jan 2005, 8:37pm

hmm, this has gotten me interested. Known some of you for years online, others might at least know who I am even if we have never spoken. I can attend anything that is within about 20 hours drive from me (or further, depends on if anybody rides with me or not). Speaking of which, if anybody in the Florida needs a ride or doesn't feel like driving alone, I can meet up with ya here in Tallahassee.

really I just want to smack ya around like little bitches with a well placed toilet or two ;)

Long live [KBK]

QCH

24 Jan 2005, 8:47pm

That's the spirit, Little Miss Piggy Flipper. Throwing down the smacktard..... :thumbsup:

oCoMiK

23 Feb 2005, 10:11pm

I'm going to post before I do my reading so please feel free to call me a "Leech"... It will only make it easier when you taste the spray from my Apache!

Ocomik (what a Tard - speaking about myself in the third person) is officially requesting a status on the SM LAN 2005. I know for Prime there was some building logistics involved that MAY preclude it from being held.

Do we have any official word on whether it's a go this year?

Thanks
ocomik

P.S. You know Q and I are down with helping out. If QCH tries to lay down some lame excuse about his MBA, I'll put the smackdown on him - you heard it hear first!

GHoosdum

23 Feb 2005, 10:14pm

You tell him, ocomik! SM-LAN '04 was right smack in the middle of my last MBA term, and I can tell you I had much more fun at the LAN than I would have if I'd stayed home that weekend to work on crap for school!

RWB

23 Feb 2005, 10:50pm

I'll try to be there, where ever it'll be held. :thumbsup:

QCH

24 Feb 2005, 11:57pm

Hmmmm, any word from Prime-mister? I'll chip in $50 towards buying DeBeee's

Clutch

25 Feb 2005, 12:37am

Yea, March is around the corner. Another month is soon to be down in the books. I'm ready for some LAN action myself.

primesuspect

25 Feb 2005, 1:51am

Hmmmm, any word from Prime-mister? I'll chip in $50 towards buying DeBeee's

haha, hey it's a start. Now if we could just get everybody to chip in, we'll secure a permenant lan spot for short-media any time we want ;D

mmonnin

25 Feb 2005, 5:02pm

Permenant Lan Spot? Thats the place across from OHOP!!!

Cyclonite

25 Feb 2005, 5:33pm

Permenant Lan Spot? Thats the place across from OHOP!!!

OHOP? Out House of Pancakes? :wtf:

primesuspect

25 Feb 2005, 5:57pm

Original Pancake House... There's a church - like a for real, cute little country church, complete with steeple, for sale directly across the street from the pancake house.

We said "now THAT would make a sweet lan spot".... :rarr:

QCH

25 Feb 2005, 7:02pm

I remember that church... and I remember that it was for sale.... That would be sweet. Go ahead and buy both places... a backup LAN spot.

mmonnin

26 Feb 2005, 5:24am

And we wouldnt have to drive to breakfast each morning!!!

TheSmJ

26 Feb 2005, 5:50am

I could just imagine all the protesters that would flock to the building every time we had the LAN, though. ;D

mmonnin

26 Feb 2005, 6:08am

We take down the cross then...if there was one.

Prime could use it for storage the rest of the year.

ze_merovingian

3 Mar 2005, 7:55pm

hmmm, a church... could turn out to be a real blessing... getting tech support from a church based (location) company.... dude, believers need pc help too! :thumbsup:

anyway, i'm there... should be in town...

Crazy Joe

3 Mar 2005, 9:49pm

Well Team Nexlia and I can look into seeing about hosting one down here at the Gaming Shop in Milford... It's big enough to accomodate as many people that were at the last place and they even have some good computers that can be rented for people that didn't feel like bringing their own rig. Cincinnati Area would also be a more central location for Clutch and the rest of the Southern S-M peeps... Thoughts?

QCH

3 Mar 2005, 10:31pm

Well... the thought from 6 months ago was that Brian was in charge of the SM-LAN and it will need to be up to him to determine if the location needs to be moved or of he wants to hand over the logicistic of the event to someone else...

<b>{PAGING Brian, PAGING Brian.... Line One}</b> What's the status? The closer we get, the tougher it is to keep weekends open during the summer.

GHoosdum

4 Mar 2005, 12:16am

Ditto Q.

Clutch

4 Mar 2005, 12:22am

Dude, I remember that Church, they still haven't sold that place, wow. Whatever the spot is, I am sure raising money for it will not be a problem. As far as location, I'm not driving this time, so I can and will fly wherever there is a airport, haha.

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 12:44am

I just need a significant amount of money to make this happen at deebe's

I really don't know what to do because having it at another location will involve paying for space, and that means we either go without shirts or pay more, and I want to avoid this if at all possible

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 1:20am

My preference is that we forgo the shirts in favor of getting this thing going...

I would say that $30 for everyone (I would chip in $10 extra for a shirt). If someone wants a shirt, then they pay extra. $30 per person x 50 people = $1,500.

I'm not sure how far that would go, but it's something to consider.

(Again, not butting in, just offering my opinion)

MAGIC

4 Mar 2005, 1:21am

what a pickle :shakehead

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 1:23am

[V][AGIC']what a pickle :shakehead

Dill or Kosher?

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 1:31am

Here is your quote for custom screen printed garments:

Garment: Gildan 6.1 oz 100% cotton color t-shirts
Location 1: 1 color full back on each item
Location 2: 3 color left chest on each item

150 quantity = $5.79 each.
50 quantity = $9.89 each.
20 quantity = $14.64 each.

Set up Fees $0.00 We do not charge for extra setup fees
Screen Charges each color $0.00 We do not charge any extra per screen charges
Standard Art fee $69 for a 3 color design.
Shipping estimate $11.18

Just a quick lookup.... Good quality T-Shirt with Short-Media logo on the front, two lines of text on back. JUST AS A COMPARISON.

profdlp

4 Mar 2005, 1:43am

I just need a significant amount of money to make this happen at deebe's...
Define significant. :)

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 2:36am

oh, about $200,000 significant :(

KingFish

4 Mar 2005, 2:52am

is that all?
/me whistles for geeky1

profdlp

4 Mar 2005, 3:26am

oh, about $200,000 significant :(
Ohhhh....

I know you had talked about buying it. When you mentioned it today I thought maybe they were still open to the idea of a rental.

Maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket this week. :mullet:

Clutch

4 Mar 2005, 6:14pm

Is Deebe's still open, or is he going to close the doors on it soon? I was just wondering if we needed to rent out deebe's or not. I would pitch in extra for a shirt myself, not a problem. I also like the idea of everyone paying a set amount to go, this way we can have money to either rent out a place, or get shirts, whatever the case may be.

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 6:42pm

It's not a question of renting out deebe's, it's a question of is deebe's even going to be there. I can't plan on anything at deebe's - the only guarantee is if I actually end up buying the place.

So in that regard, I guess it's time to start looking for an alternative venue :( I'll start checking places out this weekend

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 6:46pm

(prime house... we can fit 20 in the basement, another 20 in the first floor, and 5 0r 10 in the garage... )

Good luck... :thumbsup: Find us a nice place.

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 7:10pm

We really could have it at my house, honestly. I have room for about 30 people in the basement, and I could fit another 10-15 in the great room... :eek3:

:scratch: thinking

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 7:39pm

Can't be worse that Deebe's power and heat issue.... ;D

I can just see 30 extention cords, network lines.... Mike and I will be over on Wednesday to drill holes in the floors and walls for wiring and ventilation.... ;D

I crack me up.... :D

oCoMiK

4 Mar 2005, 8:49pm

Maybe I'm looking at this to simplistic BUT what's wrong with planning on holding the thing at DeeBee's and then if he shutters, sells the place, etc.. using Casa De Prima as an alternative location.

You may hate to do it BUT you could always put a cap on the number of attendees.

I'm pretty sure I'm missing something simple but I'm on one of my staff's PC right now and the freakin' resolution is like 640x480! Arghhhhh! Reading this board is next too impossible.

And maybe like DeeBee's is not an option, changing her resolution is NOT ONE EITHER :shakehead

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 9:02pm

oCoMiK

4 Mar 2005, 9:12pm

I just can't commit to a place that "might not" be there by the time the summer rolls around. People will be buying plane tickets, driving, planning weekends off, etc. all to come to this, and I have to be 100% sure that it will be there.

Very smart approach - I told you I missed something simple...

I'll try and make this is the last time I say this but if I can be of assistance (sans writing a $200,000 check), Just let me know.

primesuspect

4 Mar 2005, 9:18pm

Oh come on, just write the check! ;D

GHoosdum

4 Mar 2005, 9:33pm

I'll write the check.

It will bounce.

QCH

4 Mar 2005, 11:17pm

I'll write the check.

It will bounce.

That's a good one from a guy with him MBA.... good business sense.

Take it from a guy geting his Master in Info Management... Buy some blank computer checks and have a computer print it, fold it, insert it into an envelope, and mail it... no finger prints, no tracing....

But it would still bounce.... grrrrr.... That's why I don't have my degree.... :scratch:

profdlp

5 Mar 2005, 12:09am

Maybe we should put up a poll asking people what they would spend to attend The Lan. It might make prime's search for a venue easier if he had a budget in mind.

QCH

5 Mar 2005, 12:41am

I can go as high as $50, but I know that would be too high for many...

Clutch

6 Mar 2005, 8:19pm

I will go $50 as well. Maybe we can rent out like a ball room or something like that from a Hotel? I know some have small rooms for meetings and stuff.

Nomad

6 Mar 2005, 9:35pm

I could go as high as fifty, that would be my limit though.

KingFish

7 Mar 2005, 2:34am

I would say 35.

QCH

22 Mar 2005, 3:50pm

{bump}

checkmate

23 Mar 2005, 3:08am

All you guys have to do is find a place and figure a price and I'll be there. :D

GHoosdum

6 Apr 2005, 3:30pm

I'd say that my high limit is around $35 or so.

Do we have anything like a date set yet? Or even a definite 'yes' to SM-LAN 2005 being held? The reason that I ask is MillionManLAN 4 is June 24-27 '05 and registration opens tonight. I am not sure if the lot of us Nexlians will be registering for that or not, but knowing if/when on the SM-LAN will help us decide, since SM-LAN is a higher priority (for me at least).

QCH

6 Apr 2005, 3:50pm

Day's in the summer are booking up for me too. Any word?

Crazy Joe

8 Apr 2005, 9:30am

Well it looks like my classes are going to be July 14th to August 5th... And the next two weekends are weddings so I'd prefer to have it before July 14th...

primesuspect

8 Apr 2005, 2:55pm

man, believe me guys, I'm working on it. I'm calling places and everybody so far is okay with "60 people 24 hours for a weekend" but not one of them has internet access.

QCH

8 Apr 2005, 4:30pm

Hmmmm..... You guys have that Verison Wide Area Wireless network? Chicago does. 10 MB anywhere in Chicagoland. If the Detroit area had that, I'm sure a "Demo" of the product should be arranged. Say, Short-Media do an article on the "new" technology in exchange for days of use.

I REALLY want this LAN to happen. So much has changed since last year and tons of people that I would like to meet (and FRAG in BF2 or BF:DC)....

OK Guys... say prayers every night for Prime to find a "Prime" spot for us!!!!

Thrax

8 Apr 2005, 6:14pm

HAhahaha, Detroit having WiFi.. bahahahaahahha ;D

TheSmJ

9 Apr 2005, 1:39am

Tony knows something about a few cities around Detroit getting it, and I also hear Farmington is getting it as well.

checkmate

9 Apr 2005, 3:35am

That Compuware/ Hard Rock Cafe on Monroe has the first WiFi node in Detroit and it reaches into the lobby of the Compuware building. Access to the network is free, too! Check NodeDB (http://www.nodedb.com/unitedstates/mi/detroit/?) for a map. And check www.dwp.org (http://www.dwp.org/) for the Detroit Wireless Project. There's also a forum to check out.

primesuspect

9 Apr 2005, 3:42am

I promise you that compuware was not the first wifi node in detroit. We had a wifi node at a company I used to work at in 2000 on Beaubien (by the greektown casino)

checkmate

9 Apr 2005, 4:00am

Oh. I went to a website and it said that the Compuware was the first but I guess that they weren't being very honest than were they?

cel3ula

11 Apr 2005, 3:09am

hey i live in michigan and know some pretty nice places with wifi on the west side of the state, just tell me if your interested. have a pleasant evening.

leishi85

11 Apr 2005, 3:21am

west side of michigan eh??

where you from??

i live in kentwood.

primesuspect

11 Apr 2005, 3:34am

i'm not entirely interested in wifi, since most desktop (gaming) PCs don't have wireless cards. Plus wifi really sucks for lag. Wifi for internet is acceptable since we can provide our own AP, but still... I'd rather have a place that offers internet access to 30+ computers.

Lincoln

11 Apr 2005, 3:40am

I'd rather have a place that offers internet access to 30+ computers.Only type of place I can think of with that would be a hotel. :-/

profdlp

11 Apr 2005, 3:43am

i'm not entirely interested in wifi...
I intend to be there (whenever, wherever, and however it happens) but I feel the same way. Driving nearly 400 miles roundtrip & paying the Lan costs is doable, but adding a $40 wireless NIC for what would likely be a one-time use would be stretching it.

I'd rather spend the extra dough on Mountain Dew & Cheetos, the official food of the nerds. :vimp:

cel3ula

11 Apr 2005, 4:33am

west side of michigan eh??

where you from??

i live in kentwood.

holy crap...me too. you go to east kentwood? im a sophmore at ek.

cel3ula

11 Apr 2005, 4:35am

30+ computers...hmm i can give some LAN places a call around here im sure theyd love the publicity. just tell me if ur still interested. all call a few places tomorrow and see whats open.
:respect:

primesuspect

11 Apr 2005, 4:41am

Thanks, but I'm not interested in having it on the west side of michigan. If we were going to do that, we would just move a few more miles west and have it in Chicago, based around a few other short-media oldtimers :)

TheSmJ

11 Apr 2005, 7:26am

All we need is one WAP to connected to the network, and route all net-bound traffic through that. This way we'd be on our own network, still have internet access, and the majority of us wont need to buy wireless cards.

QCH

11 Apr 2005, 11:31am

oCoMiK

11 Apr 2005, 9:57pm

If we were going to do that, we would just move a few more miles west and have it in Chicago, based around a few other short-media oldtimers :)
Yeah I hear you prime... I talked with you QCH yesterday and "Depends" is now sponsoring his BF1942 LAN team... Originally he tried to land a colostomy bag manufacturer until he realized they were just selling him a line of $h*t about the sponsorship. ;D

Also have you decided on a drop dead date as to whether we'll be able to have it in Detroit?

Thanks...

QCH

11 Apr 2005, 10:06pm

Who this Comic dude? Should we Ban him... oh yeah, that's that Dead Head that I brought along to help fend off Detroit thugs. ;D

A cut off date would be nice. I have every intention of going to the LAN but if I could tell my wife that on X date, I will know if the LAN is on or I will know the LAN details.

BTW... Depends RULE ( Part of the contract, I must Defend Depends and encourage everyone else to use them... come on, never have to leave your chair while gaming!!! Just keep enough beverages on hand... Depends can hold quite a lot of stuff... hours upon hours without a break.) ;D

GHoosdum

12 Apr 2005, 12:49am

"Imagine that this pitcher of tea is a gallon of your feces"

"Oops I crapped my pants can hold a lot of dung!" :D

profdlp

12 Apr 2005, 1:01am

GHoosdum, you're scaring me... :eek2:

GHoosdum

12 Apr 2005, 1:30pm

I scare myself sometimes, prof. I really do. ;D

primesuspect

16 Apr 2005, 12:25am

update: I think I may have thought of something. That is to say thinking of thinking of that made me think that maybe I have a spot for the lan. I won't be able to find out until Monday morning. I'll update this thread as soon as I know.

pseudonym

16 Apr 2005, 12:42am

Very interesting...

I figured I'd throw my head in here, its about time. Call if you need some help, like sorting out the power situation or bossing people around ;D

profdlp

16 Apr 2005, 1:14am

GHoosdum

19 Apr 2005, 3:12pm

Did you find out?

QCH

19 Apr 2005, 3:15pm

Still holding my breath......................................................{need air}......
...................................{Seeing stars}................................................
.......{G e t t i n g}...............{L i g h t}........
.............{H e a d e d}......... :sawed:

primesuspect

19 Apr 2005, 6:14pm

The old office I used to be at is, without question, the perfect venue for a lan party. 15,000 square feet of vacant office space with cubicles, tables, chairs, active 768K DSL, and plenty of power.

It has been vacant since we moved out last year.

THEY FINALLY LEASED IT LAST WEEK :rant:

It's taken :(

Thrax

19 Apr 2005, 6:31pm

SMWAN05. :bawling:

profdlp

19 Apr 2005, 6:48pm

Some suggestions:

1) Find a PC gaming center like this one (http://www.detroitgamers.com/) (just an example) and see what might be arranged.

2) Contact groups/sites who have had their own Lan Parties in the area and ask them for suggestions.

3) Clean out your garage and have it at your place. :vimp:

I would be willing to help you with all three, if asked. :)

primesuspect

19 Apr 2005, 6:53pm

See those locations? Not one of them is within 40 miles of detroit! Its so weird!

profdlp

19 Apr 2005, 7:01pm

See those locations? Not one of them is within 40 miles of detroit! Its so weird!
Yeah, I looked up Grand Rapids on a map :rolleyes: , which is why I said "just an example".

If there truly isn't anything comparable in the Detroit area, someone is missing a good business opportunity.

I shall continue to ideate. :ninja:

oCoMiK

26 Apr 2005, 5:58pm

How about an update?

cel3ula

26 Apr 2005, 10:15pm

well seems like u guys are up for suggestions...even grand rapids? well if you are i can help ya out there. last time i suggested it i got shut down tho. ;D

Kwitko

26 Apr 2005, 10:19pm

*cough*newyork*cough*

primesuspect

26 Apr 2005, 10:34pm

I'm still working on it :)

say it with me now:

when i have an update, i'll post it

;)

AuthorityAction

27 Apr 2005, 1:52am

when i have an update, i'll post it

Got it :thumbsup:

GHoosdum

27 Apr 2005, 1:17pm

It's looking less and less like I'll be available at any time during the summer now... some June dates are still OK, but very little is left. :(

Lincoln

27 Apr 2005, 3:53pm

when i have an update, i'll post it

Got it :thumbsup:
Right.

So I'll stand here... and when Penguin has an update he's free to go.

/me hears coconuts :buck:

profdlp

27 Apr 2005, 4:11pm

Right.

So I'll stand here... and when Penguin has an update he's free to go.

*General Keebler hears coconuts :buck:
And I'll update the free coconuts and wait for the right Penguin to stand up.

AuthorityAction

27 Apr 2005, 9:22pm

Yes, Prime doesn't know what he's talking about.. just listen to me.

Prime > Me. I wave my white flag, Prime you can take over. There's too much pressure.

oCoMiK

10 May 2005, 3:57am

This time last year I was getting ready to head up to Michigan w/QCH for the SM-LAN. My expectations were high and when all was said and done, I wasn't disappointed. It was a *REAL* blast!

This year I'm looking at the calendar reflecting on what might *NOT* be... The days are starting to fill up in June, July, and August and the longer we go with *NO* appreciable drop-dead date, the chances of getting everybody to show up are greatly diminished.

I realize I'm probably opening a can-of-worms that is best left closed since the last time this idea was broached - my gut tells me so - BUT what about looking at an alternative venue if we can't get something ironed out by the end of May.

I know in the past that Prime said that the only way he would agree to host the next SM-LAN was if it was held in Michigan (Detroit?)... I'm wondering if his stance is still firm, especially since his participation is *KEY*.

I hope everyone understands that I mean no disrespect by re-hashing this subject. I just know that a lot of effort has been put forth to make this happen and it's just not working out.

If an alternate venue could somehow ease the pain and provide a way for all of us to get together, I'd be more than happy to offer up my efforts.

Respectfully submitted
Ocomik

Nomad

10 May 2005, 4:25am

I think we need to put a final yes/no seal as to if this will happen, or place a date where we can be certain it won't happen.

mmonnin

10 May 2005, 3:17pm

We cant place a date until there is a place to have it at yet.

I know Brian said he is looking but if someone can find a place and can put it all together I am sure we can find a balance.

QCH

10 May 2005, 4:07pm

I believe people are asking for a "Date of No Return". (ie. June 1, if nothing can be worked out, SM-LAN'05 is dead.)

This allows people to begin the morning process and end the rollercoaster of emotions regarding the hopefully SM-LAN.

primesuspect

10 May 2005, 4:12pm

It is sorely obvious that I cannot pull this thing together. I am hereby releasing all responsibility for this LAN to whomever wants to take up the reigns. I hope you guys can pull it together, I feel like a big fat failure :(

QCH

10 May 2005, 4:26pm

Hey now.... Let's not beat thy self up. It's tough to pull off a LAN, even a small one. To pull off one as great as last year... That's a gigantic undertaking. Last years was a perfect fit for what we needed and wanted. Opportunities like Dee Bee�s offered do not come often and when they do, they dry up fast.

We are all VERY hopeful for the SM-LAN'05. I looked forward to it on the way back from SM-LAN'04. I really want to see, hang out, and FRAG fellow SM'ers. The passion of this thread and ones from last summer prove that. We want a LAN and you volunteered for the chore of organizing it again. Just like your previous business ventures, not every venture is a success. The requirements like Space, 24 Hr. Access, Air conditioning, Internet access, and a cheap price... those are some serious potential roadblocks.

Let us know what you need help with. Let us know your stumbling blocks and what you expect from the LAN. What direction do you NOT want to LAN to go (not physical but organizationally). SM-LAN'05 NEEDS BRIAN and regardless if others end up organizing it, we need your blessing and, quite frankly, we need you to behind it. SM-LAN with out Brian is just a LAN.

You may have a bit of "padding" but you are not a "big fat failure". :thumbsup:

GHoosdum

10 May 2005, 4:27pm

I don't think that you can be considered a failure by any stretch of the imagination, Brian. You've done a lot of work for this, and it's definitely not your fault that the venues just didn't manage to accommodate. You're still the man!

primesuspect

10 May 2005, 6:53pm

Well by me stretching this out for months just to still be at square one is definitely a failure. I get frustrated with my lack of ability to make this happen.

My real fear is that if the LAN is held elsewhere, like chicago, I won't be able to go. But at this point I just don't care anymore because it's more important for the community for this to happen regardless of one man's wishes (mine, in this case). Not trying to make a sympathy bid or sound altruistic. I just want this thing to go down, and it looks like it's not gonna happen here. I hope Q and Ocomik can pull it together in Chicagoland.

Lincoln

10 May 2005, 8:39pm

If it is held in Chicago on a date I'm available, I'll probably be able to swing by Detroit to get a carload of people, and my uncle recently offered me use of his apartment in Chicago any time I want it :) Just an FYI.

GrayFox

10 May 2005, 9:29pm

Will this lan be opened to anyone here at sm ?.

QCH

10 May 2005, 9:47pm

The Lan is open to anyone willing (and able) to travel to where ever the LAN is held. We had friends of SM folk, we had family of SM folk, and we had guys from Icrontic also.

You're more than welcome. :thumbsup:

10 May 2005, 9:49pm

Team Nexlia is already planning to host 'NexLiAN 6' down here in Cincy on the weekend of June 24th. If there is any interest, we Nexlian's could talk about moving it to a bigger venue, and inviting the SM crowd.

Right now, GH and I usually hold it in our apartment, which barely holds 8 people, so we would certainly need to move it, but there is a gamer place here in Milford that could proly hold 35-40 peeps with PCs (that's a low estimate). We've never talked to them about hosting an all-weekend type of event, so I don't know what kind of pricing it would be, but we can find out.

This is just an idea. I havn't even discussed it with the rest of Team Nexlia but, I thought I'd see what kind of interest there might be in this if we did it.

GrayFox

10 May 2005, 10:37pm

If I have my full licence by then I will try to make it :)

entropy

10 May 2005, 10:51pm

I would try to get something going here, at least as a backup plan in case we can't get it elsewhere, but there's just frickin' nothing around here. That includes S-M members. I think there's one person in Milwaukee, that I'm aware of... I just can't remember who ;D. Edcentric, maybe?

But, all in all, it doesn't make sense to do it here. I could easily make Chicago, my parents have given me the OK for anywhere within 6 or so hours of driving, and if I'm lucky, I'll be able to drive myself (and possibly McDubs, if he can/wants to go) there. Either way, I have the green light on it, and I hope we can do this somewhere. I missed last year, but this year is looking good :)

QCH

10 May 2005, 11:06pm

I'm thinking of Kalamazoo, MI. It's 2.5 hrs from Detroit, 2.5 hrs from Chicago, 4 hrs from Ohio, and probably 4.5 hrs from Wisconsin. I could grab people from Chicago's O'Hare airport, Prime from Detroit, and Kalamazoo has a international airport too but most flights stop in Detroit or Chicago before going to Kalamazoo.

Of course, Chicago would be the easiest for me and Ocomik and I'm sure we could find something but it may preclude people due to distance to drive.
:confused:

yagga

11 May 2005, 1:05am

Clutch

11 May 2005, 2:55am

Date..Time..Clutch is there.

Kwitko

11 May 2005, 3:06am

I'm thinking of Kalamazoo, MI.

Hey, what about us East Coast folks?:(

GrayFox

11 May 2005, 3:09am

I'm in the Twin Cities, only 6 hours from Chicago. ;D
Im in Ontario all the way up there in canada ;D

Leonardo

11 May 2005, 4:02am

How 'bout Anchorage! ;D OK, maybe not. Well then, what about Fairbanks? No, that's too far for me - nearly 8 hour drive. Rats. :scratch:

KingFish

11 May 2005, 4:12am

Nome?

Leonardo

11 May 2005, 5:13am

Nope - flight's too expensive to Nome. Also, don't know what lodging is available there.

MAGIC

11 May 2005, 6:29am

im pretty tight with all the teachers in the buiseness department(all the computer classes) of my highschool, ill talk with them about there being a chance in hell that possibley we could have it in at my highschool in one of the classes rooms, pretty easily could fit 25-30 ppl in there. pretty slim shot but if nobody minds i could give it a shot...