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Thrax
8 Jan 2005, 1:20pm
Hello boys and girls, thought I'd stop by and entertain myself at 6:30 by providing some useful information to you kids who are still in High School and looking to pursue college; if I had known these things when I was applying/registering/going to Eastern, my life would've been a lot less stressful and a lot more enjoyable in August of 2004. These are the things your crappy counsellors, and ****ty university websites won't tell you.

1. File your FAFSA the moment your parents have their 1040/A/EZ complete for the tax season of your FAFSA filing.. (IE, 2004-2005 tax forms for 2005-2006 FAFSA). You're more likely to get grants or other sorts of payment-free money from the Government.

2. Put ALL of the colleges you're considering going to on your FAFSA; if you go to a college you didn't list, file a web correction immediately, or else the school will never get your money and you're ****ed.

3. File your FAFSA online, and file for an ePin. Fastest processing time this way.

4. Most likely you're only going to get a few thousand on stafford loans, and the rest will come from FELP (Federal Education Loan for Parents); stafford loans don't have to be repaid for six months from the time your graduate, or go below full-time enrollment. You must begin payment, even if you don't receive a notice from your lender.. So keep those dates memorized. FELP loans must begin to be paid within like 60 days of starting school, so be prepared to have that money per month or you default on your loan and that just makes baby jesus cry.

5. DON'T PICK A ****ING MAJOR FOR YOUR FIRST YEAR OF SCHOOL. Jesus christ.. You'll probably pick one that doesn't suit you, which is a massive screw-job on your class selections as your initial counseling session will gear your classes towards that wrong major. I made this mistake, and I'm switching from a BS in Computer Engineering Technology to a BS in Networking & Information Technology Administration which is far more appropriate for me; my math course for computer engineering ****ed my GPA, and I'm shuffling 2-3 classes around at the very beginning of the semester due to the major change. If I had stayed undeclared, this wouldn't have been a problem, and the transition to a new major would be easy.

6. What are some good courses for undeclared majors? Macroeconomics, microeconomics, composition, literature, psychology, American government, philosophy, public speaking (recitation + lecture), American history, religion, appropriately-levelled mathematics.. These fill basic requirements and will get you through your first year of schooling on full-time status, and apply to almost any degree you choose.

7. When you go to pick a major, review the program thoroughly. Do NOT hesitate to email the director/coordinator of the program and ask for an appointment to discuss it in depth.

8. Watch your student account like a hawk -- Computers and people at the universities seem to screw up with preposterously inhuman regularity, especially when it comes to dealing with your arse-raping levels of debt and collegiate future. If any discrepency occurs, call or email your billing department to get it resolved immediately. Pay particular attention to your account right before the semester, or after any system "upgrades."

9. Talk to your teachers, visit them every office session. ASS KISSING GOES A REALLY LONG WAY IN COLLEGE. Your nose will be brown, but your grades will be squeaky clean.

10. Dorms are fun. Commuting is crap.

11. Go through your first week of classes before you buy any books; no teacher really expects you to have them, and you'll save a ridiculous amount of money because some classes don't require the books that go with them. Also, even if you're a freshman, feel free to capitalize on the creepy book-selling shadow market.. Write down the names, ISBN codes, and classes for books that you need and post it on your door within that first week. You'll probably get some books for far less than you could get them anywhere else. EBAY AS MANY BOOKS AS POSSIBLE.

12. Visit the student employment offices 2-3 weeks before the semester starts. DO NOT FAIL TO DO THIS OR YOU WON'T WORK!!#@$#$311. Ok? H'okai.

13. Look, AP tests don't mean anything. Yeah, it's really nice to skip content, but who honestly wants to get <i>harder</i> classes their first year of college? You still get credit, the classes still apply to a major.. So honestly, I mean... Honestly.

14. At Eastern, if you want to get ****ing hammered, Thursday is it. Thankfully I don't know from experience

15. Frats are exactly what you think they are.

16. At most colleges, you have to do exactly four things to get registered to attend classes and live on-campus:
-Apply, get accepted.
-Enroll at the college.
-Schedule an initial advising session and go to it.
-Visit housing/dining to drop off housing forms and a downpayment.

Do these things and don't worry about doing any other steps unless they tell you to. I worried for like 50,000 days and nights about having all my loose ends tied.. I only needed four ends tied fo' real.

17. When you apply to the college, do it at the end of your junior year. Then send a final transcript when you graduate. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO THIS OR IT WILL SUCK FOR YOU.

18. If the money isn't at your college when you go for the first two weeks, it doesn't matter.. It'll come from the Gov't eventually, nor will you be charged late fees.

19. Find out what teachers have no surprise material, and skip the class if you feel comfortable doing it (hahahaha) - you'll have a lot more free time.

20. What's the beauty of college? Being able to schedule classes for later in the day.. No one wants to get up at 7 AM any more, and I ****ing hate the people who still do in college.

21. Most colleges have two types of eateries: The first is one that uses up a meal credit for a finite quantity of food (A&W, Taco Bell, Wendy's..), the second is a cafeteria that takes up a single meal credit but gives you whatever you want, and as much of it as you want. Do the latter as often as possible - your stomach and ~$5000/year will thank you for getting your money's worth.

22. The freshman 15 = beer drinking. If you don't slam back the brewskies, or binge on pizza at 3:30 AM all the time, you won't gain an ounce. I lost two pounds.

23. Live in a snowy place? School is more likely to be called off at a university than at your high school because professors are cranky gits about driving to school in the snow. Love this.

24. Everything is open later around a college campus, especially food places. The likelihood is rather strong that delivery places will be open at 2 AM.

mmonnin
8 Jan 2005, 3:32pm
I agree with most of it and I have had an extra year of college.

Some colleges dont really give you a choice on class times. Take DeVry, to get done in the 3 years like planned (Thats one the biggest reasons to go there) you HAVE to follow their shedule. Which like this semester for me the schedule starts at 8,7,11,8,7. Sometimes you screwed like this semester because they try to get classes from 9-1 but as you can see it doesnt always happen.

22.) Not true, ask geeky.

13.) Why not. If you can take AP classes in HS you can probably handle it in college. Retake the same class in college and have am easy class for your GPA.

The Stanford loan borrowing limit goes up as you go to a Sophmore to a Junior to a Senior.

ratemyprofessor.com : It actually has some truthful testemonials about professors. But dont aviod the hard ones unless they are unfair.

Aranyic
8 Jan 2005, 8:59pm
Most of that is true but I would go nuts in a dorm, way too many people in too small an area. Your entire space for your stuff is about the size of our basement (sometimes smaller).

I like the early classes, I don't have any classes except for 11-1 on m/t/w/f with no class on thurs but I'm still up at 7.30 latest almost every day. Some of my fav classes were ones that started at 7 or 8.

And why pay for classes that you can test out of?

TheSmJ
8 Jan 2005, 9:02pm
I agree with most of it, but I dont think I could deal with a roommate.

EMT
8 Jan 2005, 10:33pm
Well, that's a lot to digest and most of it doesn't ring true so much for me. I'll say though that an AP test can be a lot cheaper than a class at the university... if you want to graduate quickly or take a lot of classes that aren't major related or whatever, they really help give you that freedom. I think I'm a sophomore now.

Nomad
9 Jan 2005, 12:44am
The only reason I'm taking particular AP courses now is because I want something more difficult in college (If I go). If I don't get credit for them I don't really care because I'd just take the same class again in college and have an easy time.

289Mustang
9 Jan 2005, 5:28am
9. Talk to your teachers, visit them every office session. ASS KISSING GOES A REALLY LONG WAY IN COLLEGE. Your nose will be brown, but your grades will be squeaky clean.


:rolleyes:


10. Dorms are fun. Commuting is crap.


Dorms are only fun if you can drink in them. :cool:


11. Go through your first week of classes before you buy any books; no teacher really expects you to have them,


You must have some really lazy ass professors there. I had assignments after the first class session most times.


13. Look, AP tests don't mean anything. Yeah, it's really nice to skip content, but who honestly wants to get <i>harder</i> classes their first year of college? You still get credit, the classes still apply to a major.. So honestly, I mean... Honestly.


I liked skipping Calc I in college and not retaking that crap. I could have skipped Calc II if I had know it would be a rehash of high school also.


14. At Eastern, if you want to get ****ing hammered, Thursday is it. Thankfully I don't know from experience


Awww, you're no fun :D


15. Frats are exactly what you think they are.


If you mean in a bad way then yes, yes they are :thumbsup:


20. What's the beauty of college? Being able to schedule classes for later in the day.. No one wants to get up at 7 AM any more, and I ****ing hate the people who still do in college.


True. I commuted after my first year so I couldn't do this if I wanted a parking spot withing a mile of my class unfortunately :(


21. Most colleges have two types of eateries: The first is one that uses up a meal credit for a finite quantity of food (A&W, Taco Bell, Wendy's..), the second is a cafeteria that takes up a single meal credit but gives you whatever you want, and as much of it as you want. Do the latter as often as possible - your stomach and ~$5000/year will thank you for getting your money's worth.


I agree, cafeteria food was pretty good where I went.


22. The freshman 15 = beer drinking. If you don't slam back the brewskies, or binge on pizza at 3:30 AM all the time, you won't gain an ounce. I lost two pounds.


See #14


23. Live in a snowy place? School is more likely to be called off at a university than at your high school because professors are cranky gits about driving to school in the snow. Love this.


Wow, you really do have some lazy professors. Our state school here never closes unless it is a natural catastophe and we get some nasty blizzards like this past week.


24. Everything is open later around a college campus, especially food places. The likelihood is rather strong that delivery places will be open at 2 AM.

Mmmmmm, I think I'm going to go to Amigo's for a Chicken Soft Taco :respect:

Guyute
9 Jan 2005, 5:30am
Good post; this should be the type of knowledge every potential freshman gets, but unfortunately it doesn't happen.

Watch your student account like a hawk -- Computers and people at the universities seem to screw up with preposterously inhuman regularity,..." Thrax is so right about this!!! I know a woman who was 2 weeks away from graduating and the university made a mistake on her transcript, so she couldn't graduate as it was too late to appeal and they said that they were right anyway....how's that for 3 years and $15K down the tubes????

15. Frats are exactly what you think they are.- hehe I joined the worst one at my school. Worst for partying, I should say. I have mixed feelings about FRATernitieS and what they can do for you.

Let me add that:
Register for classes early and stay on top of the enrollment. My university was late sending my class schedule back to me (in 1988 we had to snail-mail it...) so I ended up getting 8:30 AM classes EVERY DAY...that really bit.

not every prof really cares if you ever show your face, unlike high school!!! You better have good self-control or you can blow a lot of dough goofing off.

Take advantage of every freebie possible. My college had a world-class athletic facility (pool, tennis squash and volleyball courts, weights, and a track all indoors) with the membership included in tuition, and only 3 people I knew actually ever went. The parking lot beside my first job gave you $1 off parking if you had a student ID., etc.

Camman
9 Jan 2005, 5:45am
How do you know commuting is crap? I was under the impression from your posts that you have only lived at the dorms.

Personally, I commute, I mean I don't go to a college that has dorms anyway, but I know people who go to UNH and commute and they're saving themselves thousands and thousands of dollars every year.

Thrax
9 Jan 2005, 7:41am
<i>SARCASM</i>. Jesus ****.. :rolleyes:

Camman
9 Jan 2005, 8:15am
Well....how am I supposed to know that? The rest of the list seemed pretty serious to me so :rolleyes: right back at ya ;)

Lincoln
9 Jan 2005, 8:40am
Good tips, Thrax.

There's a quick solution to 90% of the problems though: go to a small school :) People know your name and you can talk to the people in charge any time.

Thrax
9 Jan 2005, 8:45am
Well....how am I supposed to know that? The rest of the list seemed pretty serious to me so :rolleyes: right back at ya ;)

Mine was better :rolleyes:

Tex
9 Jan 2005, 5:29pm
I'll throw one in that is not so much just for first time college guys but applies all the way through.

I know you worked hard all year but maybe the most important time every year will be the summers.

GET INTERNSHIPS EVERY SUMMER AND WORK. Doesnt matter if your almost a slave. Voluteer to work for FREE if you have to ! But get started doing something in your field of choice.

The job market is scary right now guys. Even for very talented graduates and any actual work in your field of choice is going to give you a HUGE leg up on the competition for jobs. Tons of IS/IT jobs are being shifted overseas. We have so many young asian and Indian programmers here right now that would die for a job your gonna be shocked.

I can put an add in the paper right now for an entry level programmer and say I have two openings... gotta have a degree and have 500 resumes on my desk in two days. I am not sh*tting you that three fourths will be asian and Indian graduates. Many desperate to stay in this country and willing to work for peanuts right now to get experiance.

The tech industry has had huge layoffs. There are lots of talented people serving hamburgers and fry's right now. You gotta plan ahead nothing is gonna be handed to ya. This isnt like the early 80's anymore for computer jobs.

Tex

McBain
9 Jan 2005, 6:41pm
You ain't kidding about experience. Esp. if your GPA isn't tops. I've got about four years experience in the engineering world and I graduate in may, but unfortunately, only two semesters of experience with stuff related directly to my degrees. I'm still scared ****less that it won't be enough. You can get internships and Co-ops right out of the gate in freshman year, so take advantage, its worth it.