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Bubbleman
6 Apr 2005, 5:54am
Mine takes up my whole desk! Its a dell monitor.

Can you guys hook me up with a flat monitor?

primesuspect
6 Apr 2005, 5:54am
www.newegg.com is your friend.

csimon
6 Apr 2005, 5:55am
do you want analog or dvi digital or the combination to use both?
How much do you want to spend and how big?

off the top of my head if I needed a new monitor tomorrow I'd buy this one.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=24-001-186&DEPA=1

In the past 3 months I've bought (and been reimbursed) 3 monitors for clients ...2 910t's and 1 192t. I just love samsung 19" dvi lcd monitors.
Before this year ago I was paying about $150 more per monitor because they were prefered!

Bubbleman
6 Apr 2005, 6:05am
cheapest flat monitor I can find

Mt_Goat
6 Apr 2005, 12:50pm
cheapest flat monitor I can find
That would not be a good thing!

Flintstone
6 Apr 2005, 5:18pm
How about this:

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=10344435

I've got 4 Sceptre 19" monitors now and have had them for 2 years. I paid almost $500.00 each for them and thought it was a damn good price back then and I bought them from the same place as the link. They're about the cheapest 19" analog/DVI monitors out there and they are pretty nice to look at, too!

TheBaron
6 Apr 2005, 5:25pm
I don't mean to sound harsh, but you need to stop posting these "help me find" posts where you don't give a price range or do ANY research beforehand. Don't make other people do all the work for you

NiGHTS
6 Apr 2005, 6:46pm
Not to jack the thread or anything, but can someone answer some questions I have as far as flat panel monitors and their specs. This thread is just as good as any, so I'll do it in here rather than make my own. If I'm gaming, what ELSE should I be looking for other than the response rate:

What is the range of response that is acceptable for gaming (12ms-20ms?)
What does contrast ratio mean?
What type of inputs should I be concerned with?

From what I'm gathering, the native resolution can make or break your machine, as well. Framerates suffer if its more than your videocard can handle, and there's no way to adjust it so that it can go down from say 1280 to 1024, just for gaming?

From what I've seen so far, I'm very confused. [H]ardforums LOVE the Hyundai Imagequest 90d+, but c-net hates it. Tom's hardware guide recommended the best all around gaming/work LCD monitor to be the Samsung 710N, which, I must admit, is very appealing, and c-net tends to agree.

So, in addition to the questions I've asked, can someone with an LCD who games tell me what to expect, I don't want to go 250-400$ deep and realize that what I've done was make a very expensive mistake. And can you recommend a gaming monitor as well. Thanks for your time guys, I appreciate it.

TheBaron
6 Apr 2005, 6:55pm
Not to jack the thread or anything, but can someone answer some questions I have as far as flat panel monitors and their specs. This thread is just as good as any, so I'll do it in here rather than make my own. If I'm gaming, what ELSE should I be looking for other than the response rate:

What is the range of response that is acceptable for gaming (12ms-20ms?)
What does contrast ratio mean?
What type of inputs should I be concerned with?

From what I'm gathering, the native resolution can make or break your machine, as well. Framerates suffer if its more than your videocard can handle, and there's no way to adjust it so that it can go down from say 1280 to 1024, just for gaming?

From what I've seen so far, I'm very confused. [H]ardforums LOVE the Hyundai Imagequest 90d+, but c-net hates it. Tom's hardware guide recommended the best all around gaming/work LCD monitor to be the Samsung 710N, which, I must admit, is very appealing, and c-net tends to agree.

So, in addition to the questions I've asked, can someone with an LCD who games tell me what to expect, I don't want to go 250-400$ deep and realize that what I've done was make a very expensive mistake. And can you recommend a gaming monitor as well. Thanks for your time guys, I appreciate it.

1 - Response Rates ) different people will tell you different things about what response rates are acceptable for gaming, my opinion is that anything 16ms or less will suit you fine.

2 - Contrast Ratios ) higher contrast ratios mean brighter screens. this is really something you want, because dull colors are something you usually try to avoid in a display (since again, quality is reduced)

3 - Inputs ) DVI is a digital output, images will look sharper and the colors will look richer. get this if you can, although its not like analog is THAT much different

4 - Recommendations ) I have found the 710T and 710N to be excellent monitors, so I would agree with Tom's on that front. I would probably recommend the 710T over the 710N, just because I like DVI over Analog... but there is a price you pay for the improvement. I use a Dell 2001FP all the time, that monitor is EXCELLENT and gets my recommendation for the top pick, although it could stand to have a higher contrast ratio

5 - Resolutions ) resolutions can be lowered for gaming, it just may not look as good as it would have at its native res

NiGHTS
6 Apr 2005, 7:10pm
I appreciate the quick response, Baron.

Can resolutions be pushed further than the native? I.E. Can I get 1600x1200 on a 710N?

And anyone else with experience want to try to knock the Samsung monitor from the throne I'm giving it? :)

Edit: What would be some respectable rates for the contrast ratios? >500:1?

Gobbles
6 Apr 2005, 7:38pm
If you do any type of gaming...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-001-171&depa=1

12ms response time... I have to recommend samsung. They have some kick butt monitors and lcd's. Remember though if you game you need a low response time.

they also have a 19" with an 8ms time...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-001-185&depa=1

Not sure what your budget is? I am sure we can hook you up however.

FormFactor
6 Apr 2005, 8:24pm
Dell 2005FPW is an awesome monitor. You can find them for >$500 if you know where to look.

Bubbleman
6 Apr 2005, 8:45pm
Sorry for all the help me topics. :(

Bubbleman
6 Apr 2005, 8:47pm
My budget is something for 200 or less. That 12ms response time looks good. I need a monitor for gaming.

Gobbles
6 Apr 2005, 9:14pm
200 or less wont get you a 12ms lcd at 17"

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-001-174&depa=0

thats the closest you will get. 16ms does ok but expect some haloing when playing faster paced games.

FormFactor
6 Apr 2005, 11:09pm
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10391408&spf=1&sp=1

$229 (was $200 yesterday) 17" Acer LCD w/ 12ms response.

profdlp
6 Apr 2005, 11:31pm
Sorry for all the help me topics. :(
No need to be "sorry". :)

Everyone here will be more than happy to help you out. It just makes it a little easier to be more specific about what you want and what you're willing to pay.

If you worked in a clothing store and someone walked in and said "Hey, I need some new duds to wear next week" you might end up spending a lot of time and effort figuring out what he was after. If the same guy came in and said he needed a new suit for his friend's wedding and had $200 to spend you could easily point him in the right direction.
:wave:

FreshyP
6 Apr 2005, 11:46pm
ok man im :confused: now what is going on

profdlp
6 Apr 2005, 11:49pm
ok man im :confused: now what is going on
Bubbleman wants a new monitor that doesn't fill up his whole desk.

Any ideas? :)

FreshyP
6 Apr 2005, 11:50pm
what are we working on hardware

leishi85
7 Apr 2005, 12:40am
does this board requires the user to be at least 13??? :D

profdlp
7 Apr 2005, 12:42am
does this board requires the user to be at least 13??? :D
Obviously not. You're here. :Pwned:

(I'm kidding you, buddy :respect: -->Leishi )

Bubbleman
7 Apr 2005, 12:48am
Dam monitors are so expensive X_X

I wonder if there cheaper on ebay.... *looks*

NiGHTS
7 Apr 2005, 1:26am
Something tells me it would be more worthwhile to stick to online or physical retailers, rather than e-bay.


I can't find much on that Acer that was linked, how does it compare to other models within that performance and price range (Samsung 710N.)

TheBaron
7 Apr 2005, 8:06am
Dell 2005FPW is an awesome monitor. You can find them for >$500 if you know where to look.

I'm not sure whether you were directing this at NiGHTS or BubbleMan, but if it was at NiGHTS then I need to add my input that in my opinion this monitor is not suitable to gaming due to the stretching that it applies to most games, since they don't fit its dimensions

NiGHTS
7 Apr 2005, 8:32am
Yeah I picked up on that, I wouldn't go that direction anyway.