ShortMedia LAN 2005

[primesuspect]

Well folks here it is:

SHORT-MEDIA LAN #2

July 29th - 31st, 2005

Maximum capacity: 40 people, registration on a first come-first served basis
Registration Fee: $20 US per person
Location: In a pavillion tent in Prime's backyard
Games: TBA
Please PM primesuspect for registration and information

Lodging Notes:

We have limited room in the backyard for puptents, as well as floor space in the tent. Bring a sleeping bag! There are also lots of cheap hotels and motels nearby.

Bring your own food/drinks! Alcohol will be allowed, but only for people of legal drinking age. There will be a fridge provided outdoors. There will be a barbecue grill available.

PM primesuspect for confirmed registration. Paypal registration fees to accounts AT short DASH media DOT com.

[Lincoln]

ygpm. omfg im in. :cool:

[MAGIC]

represent!! hope we get a nice dry weekend nock on wood* :rolleyes:

[Clutch]

I don't know if I will be able to make it or not guys. Mustang Week is the same weekend :mad:

[Lincoln]

I don't know if I will be able to make it or not guys. Mustang Week is the same weekend :mad:nooo.... :(

[MiracleManS]

ygpm. omfg im in. :cool:

X2... Yea, that's right, X2

[profdlp]

I intend to attend, comprende? :D

[DogSoldier]

If you guys are playing Joint Ops-Typhoon Rising, I'm in!

[Shorty]

Anyone wanna lend me the £894($1,632) for the frigging air-fare :mad:

Watch out any brits trying to get tickets around that week, it's peak time and damn expensive! Flying from London is even more!

[Nomad]

You've got PM.

[mmonnin]

I will sign up but I am not sure if I will make it or not. Its the weekend after my 21st, I might be going out with some friends.

[shwaip]

Is there a registration deadline/max # of people?

[Lincoln]

Is there a registration deadline/max # of people?40 people; he didn't set a deadline yet.

[primesuspect]

No deadline yet. Lets see if, and how fast, the 40 spots fill up. :)

[Tex]

I will sign up but I am not sure if I will make it or not. Its the weekend after my 21st, I might be going out with some friends.

Trust me.. You need to make your 21'st B-Day with Tex at the lan 2005.

The 21'st should be one to remember. I know the good strip clubs in that area by heart and the ones I have forgot Mcbain will know for sure.

Tex

[Tex]

Anyone wanna lend me the £894($1,632) for the frigging air-fare :mad:

Watch out any brits trying to get tickets around that week, it's peak time and damn expensive! Flying from London is even more!
You got to be kidding me dude? And I thoiught the $300 bucks I was quoted today was nasty.

Ok we all have got to get on the discount airfare sites and find cheap tickets for shorty.

I propose we start a collection to get shortys skinny little butt here for the
S-M LAN 2005. I bet his sweetie can pack his skinny butt in a small enough box we can just overnight fed-Ex his butt here for way less if we send him some sandwichs to eat on the way. I mean come on now. We send beer and snacks and they punch some air holes in a big box?? Oh sure its sorta cramped but... I mean he is a computer geek? How big can he be anyway?

Overnight envelope to the UK is only like $30?

Has anyone seen how big Shorty really is anyway? I mean in person ? I ahve seen pics but he may look bigger in the pics than real life? (grin)

Can he fit in a USPS overnight envelope?

I think we need measurements and weight anyway to proceed....

Tex

[TheSmJ]

Do I even have to PM you to tell you I'll be there?

I mean, even if I didn't have the time already, I'd make it work somehow.

EDIT: Out of curiosity, do you plan for us to leave our computers outdoors (under a pavillion tent)? It's not the security that worries me, but the weather...

And of course I'll take care of lodging myself. Either I'll sleep in my car, home, or pass out on the floor (and many of you know I'm not too picky about my sleeping location).

[primesuspect]

The tent is weatherproof.

[McBain]

I'm in.....mmmmmmm boobie bars.....only one caveat is I have a wedding to go to that saturday night....I might be slightly inebriated by the time I show up on saturday.

[jradmin]

Trust me.. You need to make your 21'st B-Day with Tex at the lan 2005.

The 21'st should be one to remember. I know the good strip clubs in that area by heart and the ones I have forgot Mcbain will know for sure.

Tex

I try to remember my 21'st sometimes...but that bottle of Quervo Gold my LPO brought to my apartment the day before keeps getting in the way.
:mullet:

[mmonnin]

Trust me.. You need to make your 21'st B-Day with Tex at the lan 2005.

The 21'st should be one to remember. I know the good strip clubs in that area by heart and the ones I have forgot Mcbain will know for sure.

Tex

Are you coming to the Lan?

[Jimborae]

Anyone wanna lend me the £894($1,632) for the frigging air-fare :mad:

Watch out any brits trying to get tickets around that week, it's peak time and damn expensive! Flying from London is even more!


If only I had the money I'd be there too. :(

Oh well maybe my lottery numbers will come in between now & July.

[QCH]

I'm in.... Oh you bet I'm In!!!!!

[Clutch]

Had a talk with a good member of the site this afternoon. But I got one question.
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Who would be there to pick me up from the airport? :D If this was a poker game, I'm all in :thumbsup:

I will have to go to Mustang Week next year :p


Also I need to know which airport to fly into. I'm gonna look at ticket prices when I get back from town in a bit.

[Lincoln]

Hell man, I'd drive to O'Hare to pick you up. :cool:

[TheSmJ]

Most people go to Detroit Metro. I could pick you up from there if you need me to.

[Clutch]

Hell man, I'd drive to O'Hare to pick you up. :cool:


Detroit, MI (DTW) - Is this the correct place? It's like $312 round trip, which isn't bad.

[maximusbad]

i'm pretty sure detroit only has one airport but i could be wrong

[primesuspect]

Detroit's got two.. Three if you count Bishop which is only about 60-80 miles away. DTW is definitely the airport you want to fly into. Of course I will pick you up. I provided taxi service for mondi and blackhawk last year.

I can recommend coming in a day earlier and leaving a day later so you have some chill time. Plus, I think flights originating on thursdays are cheaper. You definitely want to get here before the lan, not the day of. Setup time and all that.

If I can't, TheSMJ lives close to metro airport as do mcbain and pseudonym. SOMEBODY will be able to pick you up and take you back :)

[maximusbad]

LOL look if i were to come it would only cost me $129, not sure how i would bring my computer though seeing as how it's an all steel case and heavy as a mofo. I would love to come, but not certain yet.

[Clutch]

Ok, I will change my flight dates and all. I am gonna wait maybe until next month to book them, to see how dad is doing and all.

[QCH]

I can always bring a spare PC with base WinXP on it... software (games) not included, of course. ;)

I'll be driving my van or Ocomik's pickup.... either way, I can always bring extra's....

[primesuspect]

What some of the travellers did last year was ship their computers here, borrowed a monitor, and then shipped it back.

Pack it tight, though, we had a casualty last year thanks to our pals at FedEx :(

[maximusbad]

well how far is a drive from va?

[QCH]

About 600 miles... 11 hour drive.

[maximusbad]

anyone else live in va who would want to drive up there to sm lan 2005 together?

[Animal]

Shorty you can go via BMI for £549.50 from manchester.... not much cheaper but its a start.

[primesuspect]

I made the Detroit to DC trip in about 13 hours in a car one time. Last year Clutch and EgoShowcase drove up from North Carolina in about 16-17 hours.

[test_tube_tony]

I'm in. i promise i won't break my computer this time ;D

for those of you that dont want to spend 1,000 bucks on airfare, you can always leave a week in advance and get a ride on a freighter and go by sea. my grandma did that once and i guess she had a good time. its pretty cheap too.

[Gravite2090]

i could greyhound this for 200$. ok its under consideration.

[Tex]

i could greyhound this for 200$. ok its under consideration.

Don't know where you are coming from but you need to look at getting hooked up on all the travelocity and other cheap travel sites and they email you with cheap airfare deals.

I got an email this morning where I can fly roundtrip from Denver to Dallas for $129.

Tex

[CB]

I'm having trouble visualising this tent that is good enough for a LAN party... I'm not doubting it, but it would be nice to get some pictures or something...

Is there a website that shows what we're gonna have?

[QCH]

This is what I picture....

[primesuspect]

http://www.sreventrental.com/tents.html

[primesuspect]

We will be getting a frame tent with sides - no center pole, 100% waterproof in case of rain. We can open the sides completely if we want, for ventilation. We can get fans or even get the whole thing air conditioned.

[pseudonym]

Your neighbors are going to love us!!!

[primesuspect]

My neighbors are actually cool in the new neighborhood. They joined us for the 4th of July party last year MR I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE FOURTH OF JULY BASH :p

[CB]

Does it have a floor, or will we be right in the grass with our tables and chairs? Is the power coming from your house? Are you going to choose the A/C option?

Sorry for all the questions, but if my computer and I are going to spend a night or two outside in a tent, I feel better knowing what to expect...

[QCH]

Grass floor, no doubt. It's done for weddings all the time... may make Primes lawn a bit worse for wear... he'll need to mow it before the tent goes up though. Like a nice putting green.... :thumbsup:

[McBain]

My neighbors are actually cool in the new neighborhood. They joined us for the 4th of July party last year MR I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE FOURTH OF JULY BASH :p


YEAH!....Jeez novak....way NOT to show up..... :p

[primesuspect]

I'm looking into flooring. They offer it, I don't know what it costs yet. AC is expensive. It would QUADRUPLE the cost of the tent. I could say to everybody "if everybody wants AC, we're going to quadruple the reg fee" and hey, if everyone's willing to pay it, we'll get it. I'm not sure yet - i haven't gotten a firm quote.

[QCH]

I'll chip in.... say an extra $20 or $30 for AC.... Not that I'm mr. money bags (hardly) but AC would be nice.... oh, and little umbrellas for my drinks.... that would really rock. :D

[TheSmJ]

Screw AC. Don't be such a guys! This is Michigan weather, not California.

[primesuspect]

TheSMJ, one year, on my birthday (June 28th), it was 110°F

[Black Hawk]

TheSMJ, one year, on my birthday (June 28th), it was 110°FWhich would be a nice and cool day here in PR. :crazy: ;D

[Nomad]

I would chip in for A/C if it was reasonable. With all the computers and such I get the feeling it may become a tad uncomfortable.

[EMT]

I can always bring a spare PC with base WinXP on it... software (games) not included, of course. ;)

I'll be driving my van or Ocomik's pickup.... either way, I can always bring extra's....

FYI (an update from before), I won't be coming, thanks for offering that to me earlier though :)

I'd love to make it but I'd be late and it'd be expensive and really tough logistically.

[profdlp]

I would chip in for A/C if it was reasonable. With all the computers and such I get the feeling it may become a tad uncomfortable.
Me & my asthma second that. ;)

[pseudonym]

I'm not big on the AC, but whatever you sissy's need ;D

[McBain]

we don't need no stinkin ac.

[primesuspect]

I really don't think it'll be realistic. They haven't given me a firm quote yet, but they ballparked it "around $1500" :wtf:

[TheSmJ]

Could always get a couple portable air conditioners. If anyone has one, that'd take care of the heat issue. I know Tony has a small one, so I'm going to volunteer his.

[MAGIC]

i might be able to round up one or two of those ac units you stick out your window, we could rig um up, is there gunna be some camp fire action? should i bring smore stuff

[TheSmJ]

[V][AGIC']i might be able to round up one or two of those ac units you stick out your window, we could rig um up

If you could that'd be great. It's all we'd need even if the weather did get that bad. We'd just stick the backs out a door we're not using, and wrap the door flap around them.

EDIT: There'll be a grill... but I have no problem burning down Brian's garage in the name of smores.

[Thrax]

You're all forgetting that we can roll the sides of the tents up.. Probably get a nice breeze goin' through the LAN.

[TheSmJ]

Depends on how bad the weather actually is. I'm not too worried about it myself, just offering alternative ideas to paying ~$1500 on something we coudl throw together ourselves.

[test_tube_tony]

if its really hot (85-90+) we could round up window type AC units and stack em in the shape of a wall, or place them around the perimeter. i got a nice one in my room i could bring along. 5 or 6 would probably be enough for the tent.

[TheSmJ]

Less than 6, more like 2, or 3 at the absolute most. Might have to run them for a few hours to get the temp down, but once it's down, it'll stay down.

[primesuspect]

Guys, I promise you that I do not have enough electrical capacity to support multiple AC units AND 30-40 computers + monitors.

[GHoosdum]

You'd better have your electric company up your service to 200 Amp before July!

[GrayFox]

Anyone know how I could get a 19" crt monitor on a plane and a computer.
If noone can figgure then out theres only like a 10% chance of me getting there :( .

[primesuspect]

You can ship the computer and borrow a monitor.

[primesuspect]

20/40 spots are taken. Sign up quick! :D

[QCH]

I can bring a spare PC.... then it's just you, you have to ship. :D

[profdlp]

I can bring a spare PC, and if the GF is good to me I might let her loan me her 19" monitor for the weekend.

[GrayFox]

Make that a 50% chance now then :)

[Clutch]

Do you guys think I can put a 20.1 widescreen lcd on the plane with me to carry? I'm not gonna ship it and risk getting broke or anything, but I can hold it in my lap.

[GHoosdum]

You're not allowed to have anything on your lap during takeoff and landing - all items carried on the plane must be stowed under the seat in front of you or above your head in the overhead bins. Most airlines are pretty strict about that rule.

[test_tube_tony]

well, they let you bring a laptop on a plane, so i dont know why they wouldnt do the same with a lcd monitor in a cary on bag

[GHoosdum]

You could carry it on, as long as you stash it under the seat or in the overhead bin during takeoff and landing. I've never been on a plane where the flight crew allowed me to keep my notebook out during those times.

[TBonZ]

Was wanting to come to this one but unfortunately am playing at a festival July 30th. :(

Maybe next year....

[Clutch]

Well I could store it under my feet for take off, that isn't to bad. I just didn't want to put it with my bags and have it all broke and ****. I could pack it really good in a laptop bag I think.

[profdlp]

My GF has one of those backpack cases designed especially for a laptop and it is built like a tank. I think you could drop it off Mt. Everest and have the contents survive intact.

[primesuspect]

Wow. Everyone was so excited about the lan and yet the turnout is alot less than I expected :(

[TheSmJ]

How many so far?

[primesuspect]

Sixteen so far. That's not including my kids & me.

[entropy]

Eh. I'd like to come (and I think Mc.Dubs would if I did... he's not around here much, but a big LAN isn't something we get around this area very often), but I don't know.

It's a long drive. I'm pretty sure my parents said we could drive out there by ourselves, but oh well. My parents would just make a weekend of it somewheres out there they said.

I have no money. I could pull some out of savings, but damn I don't want to. I'll hopefully have a job sometime soon, but I don't know. I need a new keyboard, and some acceptable (not great, but decent) heaphones if I go, too.

I don't know how many of my games will actually work, being that I've got only one or so (probably two or three between us, but still) that's legal. :(

This last one is just me being a whiny bitch and I know it. I'm personally not too keen on taking and keeping my computer outside. It's not theft I'm worried about. It's weather. I live in Wisconsin, which is the same-ish area, so I know what's up. The weather can change so unbelievably fast. If we end up getting a wicked storm, there's no hiding :-/. And whether or not the tent is weather proof isn't going to help much. If it rains, even at all, the ground will be wet. What about fog, too? It's a low chance, but it could happen. Fog so bad you can't see the car ahead of you can't be too good for computers.

Also, crap crawls around on the ground. It's unlikely, but I don't want a beetle or whatever frying something. ;D

I'll think about it. 80% chance I won't be there, as much as I'd like to :(

[CB]

We Nexlians are still undecided. We don't make decisions very quickly.

[primesuspect]

We're getting a floor. Like a real floor. The tent is weatherproof - these are the tents that bands play in and things like that.

In fact, think of it as a structure. it's not a tent.

[profdlp]

Guys, those who attend the LAN will remember it as one of the top events of their lives. You'll get to have a great weekend partying and fragging with your friends from Short-Media, and meet a bunch of the nicest and coolest folks you'll ever know. I'll even let Snuffie hump my leg again, if that will change some minds. :eek:

Just think of how much fun you'll have for the next year having been a part of all the events we'll be talking about for months and months to come. :D

[AuthorityAction]

I'm trying to convince Park to tag along with me for the 12 hour road trip. So if he's in.. we might be there. :thumbsup:

[QCH]

I've seen these "structures" and I can vouch for them. I've been in one during a downpour and wind storm in the middle of a field. Yeah, it was scary... Yeah, I thought the thing would collapse, but it didn't. These things are made to last and people don't want to spend money on these things to have them collapse during weddings or church gatherings. We're not in an open field and the weather in Detroit is different than mid Mich. and Wisconsin. They are more like Ohio really....

[Thrax]

The tent is designed to hold **** like bands and weddings.. Even in inclement weather.

Stop being a whiny bitch, entropy!

[RiversCuomo]

Hey penguin, lets not forget Rivers...

[Gargoyle]

I'd like to, but I spent too much money on my vacation a couple weeks ago. Too long to drive, too expensive to fly :(

[fatcat]

11 1/2hrs drive...hmmm might be possible...

[QCH]

From last year...I don't game much. I'm older than the average S-M member.... I drove 5 hours and got 8 hours of sleep over a 72 hr period.

WELL WORTH IT!!!!! I'm a stronger S-M Member because of it. These guys were good online people before. Now they are friends and kindred spirits.

"I love you guys" :bawling:

[profdlp]

..."I love you guys" :bawling:
Oh, man...

Now you've got me all misty-eyed. :bawling:

[test_tube_tony]

very true. it was nice to be able to meet all the people who came in person.

don't worry prime. theres still time for people to sign up. by the way, if 40 people do come, how will you be powering the structure?

[primesuspect]

Looks like there's a potential "missouri carpool" - Fatcat6, riverscuomo, park_7677, and penguin_5333 :wtf:

[shwaip]

Since I'm stuck at home this summer, I need to clear this with the parents - and make sure that I'll have a car capable of getting me there. I'll see what's planned.

But I'm planning on going.


When will the games list be finalized so I can buy (either "buy" or buy) them

[primesuspect]

Well, so far I can assure you that we will be playing:

UT2K4
Half Life 2 MP

Some flavor of BF - if BF2 is out by then, maybe that - but if not, most definitely desert combat.

[primesuspect]

We Nexlians are still undecided. We don't make decisions very quickly.

Yeah, that whole hive mind thing can be annoying sometimes ;D

[CB]

We don't know what you mean by that...

[QCH]

Another downside to Hive Mind thing... Limited dictionary running on 8 MB of EDO memory... :D

[Jimborae]

Anyone wanna lend me the £894($1,632) for the frigging air-fare :mad:

Watch out any brits trying to get tickets around that week, it's peak time and damn expensive! Flying from London is even more!


All the talk about this years Lan is really making me jealous & wanting to be there. The price of filghts has come down a bit to £616 return but it's still way too expensive for me.

So can I suggest that if it happens next year you don't hold it in the months of July & August, if at all possible, cos the cost of flights literally doubles during these months. Before or after July/Aug you can get a flight for £350 return which is much more reasonable.

[bothered]

I take it my suggestion to hold it in Manchester fell on deaf ears then? It's not too late.

[Lincoln]

Entropy: As prime said, weather isn't an issue at this event. Also, I can loan you headphones and a keyboard for the weekend if needed.

[Zero1]

Looks like there's a potential "missouri carpool" - Fatcat6, riverscuomo, park_7677, and penguin_5333 :wtf:


Lol ill join in as well if there is room..... :D

[primesuspect]

okay, so one of you missourians needs to take up the reigns and get the thing organized so you can all get here :D

[AuthorityAction]

Alright, all the Missouri people hit me up with contact info so we can try and plan this out. :thumbsup:

[RiversCuomo]

My info is sent...I forgot to include my AIM S/N though. Its R1V3R5Cuomo

Or you can just look to the left a little under my avatar...whatever floats your boat

Ross has the PARTY VAN :celebrate

never mind.... well be all out of gas money by the time we get out of missouri.

[Leonardo]

I take it my suggestion to hold it in Manchester fell on deaf ears then? Yeah, just as Alaska!

[GHoosdum]

Brian - I'm wondering what the power accomodations will be? I'm pretty certain that the standard 100A service line to a home won't be able to support 40 PCs all running concurrently, if the house itself is using any power.

I used an estimate of 175W of power consumption for a PC with monitor. If I'm way off base here, somebody tell me.

OK, now, there will be about 40 PCs there. 40 PCs * 175W = 7000W

And if we remember from our schooling, W = V * A and in the US, we use 110V systems, so 7000W/110V = 63A

Assuming your house has the fairly standard 100A service, 63% of it will be used by the 40 PCs running in the back yard. Are you planning on hooking up a temporary upgrade with the electric company?

Just checking! :scratch:

//edit: Also, how is all this power getting out into the yard? Even if the house has enough service to support 40 PCs on top of the appliances already in it, we can't just jack off of a single extension cord, or it would blow the circuit. Electricians usually wire circuits to 80% capacity, that is, 8 outlets assuming 100W average usage per outlet. That means a single circuit can probably sustain 1000W without blowing the breaker, or 1/7 of my conservative estimate on the power used by our PCs.

My main reason for coming is definitely to hang out with everyone. But if the PCs can run that would be good too. ;)

[QCH]

Not as important as power but.....




WHO'S MAKING THE BADGES??? :cool:

[mondi]

Well, so far I can assure you that we will be playing:

UT2K4
Half Life 2 MP

Some flavor of BF - if BF2 is out by then, maybe that - but if not, most definitely desert combat.

If you come up with a definite list let me know, being as horrible as I am at actually playing games, I'll volunteer to keep the servers in order again, the more I can set up in advance, the more fun can be had.

plus I'll need to fix it so that team pink wins this time.

m

[CB]

I think GH's power estimate might be a bit low. Here's what I see as the range of power consumption that we should anticipate:

Tower PS:
low: 300w high: 440w (lower while running if folding is disabled)

Monitor:
low (LCD): 25-30w high(CRT):100-150w

Extras:
low(none):0w high(UPS + some powered perifs.):50w? (I'm not sure on this one)

This gives a consumption range of 275-750. That makes the mean consumption around 500w per person.

This might be a high estimate (more than half of us might have LCD monitors, or we might turn off folding for the weekend... although, if I remember DeeBee's correctly, almost everyone had a CRT, and about half of us had UPSs), but we should be prepared for the high estimate.

With the full compliment of 40, that would be 20,000w or nearly 185a on a 110v system.

[Zanthian]

Truefully that is my only concern to keep me from coming.
It sounds like it will be a blast up there, but if there is not enough power to run the computers then it is just a camping trip with a lot of weenies and I don't want my buns infiltrated :p
So, what is the word on the power issue?

[primesuspect]

I'm going to have an electrician look at it. I had already discussed bringing mains power from my breaker right out to the tent with a couple of dedicated 30amp circuits. I already have a dedicated 20 amp circuit in the yard.

I also have discussed with my neighbor tapping into his power. One of my neighbors said "no problem" and i have yet to broach the subject with the other yet. That gives us another 20-60 amps right off the bat.

Extension cords for power will be 30amp commercial grade cords for the main power feeds.

I'll let you know as I have updates.

[RiversCuomo]

I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that electric bill...
Sounds like it's all going to work out great :thumbsup:

[AuthorityAction]

Alright so I have Rivers and Zero that for sure want to tag along with me. Right now, Zero and I are waiting on the big OK from the parents to make the trip out there.

Hey Prime, do you think my mom could give you a call? She's worried because she doesn't know who you are. ;D

Hopefully my $20 will soon be in the PayPal account.

[primesuspect]

absolutely. I can give her lots of referrals too :)

You think she's bad, blackhawk's mom was REALLY nervous about sending her baby this far ;) ;D

[primesuspect]

Update on power issue:

Tonight microman brought over an inline multimeter. We hooked it up to my computer, my lcd monitor, and kyle's CRT monitor.

My computer is a 2600+, 500w psu, three HDs, a 9800 pro, 4 case fans. It would be safe to assume that this probably represents the "average" lan computer.

Computer (while folding and playing UT2k4 at full bore) - 2 amps
LCD: .5 amps
CRT: .75 amps

So with these numbers, we calculated it all out and if we estimate pessimistically, we will need around 185 amps for this adventure. I have 100 amps currently, with another 20 from a neighbor.

I put in a request from the local power company to upgrade to 200amp service which, combined with my neighbor's 20amps, will provide us with 220 amps total, more than enough to run my household and 40 computers.

I am willing to invest in the power infrastructure, especially since if this event works out, I will probably hold it here annually.

The tent will be literally 5 feet from my garage. We will be installing a 100 amp subpanel in my garage and pulling 4 more feeds using commercial (20amp) extension cables to the tent - 3 from my basement, directly at the breaker panel, and another from my neighbor's dedicated 20 amp outdoor circuit.

Is this satisfactory to team nexlia? ;)

[fatcat]

Lol ill join in as well if there is room..... :D


wow!...didnt realize there were that many miserians on S-M!

maybe we need to start a short-media missouri mini lan ;D

Penguin, Ill let ya know here in a little while if I can go... might have to bribe/buy the wife some new clothes or something :D

[QCH]

Team Durrrrrrr.... I mean Team Nexlia... Wouldn't be the same without you guys.

As for everyone else... Since Blackhawk can't make it... who's the chopper ace? :cool:

[bothered]

Update on power issue:
The tent will be literally 5 feet from my garage. We will be installing a 100 amp subpanel in my garage and pulling 4 more feeds using commercial (20amp) extension cables to the tent - 3 from my basement, directly at the breaker panel, and another from my neighbor's dedicated 20 amp outdoor circuit.
Is this satisfactory to team nexlia? ;)
The electrician in me wants to ask are you putting RCDs on the supplies?

[primesuspect]

what's an RCD?

//edit: ah, here in the US we call those GFCIs (Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor)... And yes, you have to by code here.

[Tex]

absolutely. I can give her lots of referrals too :)

You think she's bad, blackhawk's mom was REALLY nervous about sending her baby this far ;) ;D

I bet she wanted a deposit based on a safe return.

Tex

[GHoosdum]

Is this satisfactory to team nexlia? ;)

Like I said, I'm going primarily for the social aspect of things, but it's nice to power the PCs as well - based on what you've said, Brian, it looks like our power situation will be a LOT more secure than it was at Deebe's! Consider me attending.

[Tex]

If I can make it to the S-M LAN it's strictly a social affair. I don't game and see no need to drag a puter along on an airplane. In my past this has proven to be a risky proposition even with the best professional shipping crates.

Tex

[Zanthian]

This will be the first time I am attending, and I am much more comfortable with the power situation now :D Thanks for working so hard to make everyone happy. I will be attending.

[oCoMiK]

If I can make it to the S-M LAN it's strictly a social affair. I don't game and see no need to drag a puter along.

Tex
How unfortunate... I was so looking forward to having my revenge!

[Tex]

revenge? for what?

[oCoMiK]

So QCH is bugging me like a little brother about the SM LAN so I figured I'd better respond. ;D

I would like to make the event; however, I have a single concern - effective cooling for the tent. Even if we put just 20 computers in the tent, without an effective cooling solution, it's going to get pretty miserable.

Sure we can roll up the sides but then your letting in quite a bit of extra sunlight, which as we all know makes it very difficult to see both CRTs and LCDs.

In my opinion this structure needs to be primarily closed off during the day and with an average daytime temp of 80+ degrees, we'll have the makings for a nice indian sweat lodge unless we can find a decent cooling solution.

A/C would be the best and I would be happy to pay the $60 dollars to do this right and not have to worry about heatstroke or my system melting down.

I'm curious as to what others might feel about this as well. The subject was touched on briefly here but I feel it's right up there with "power" in regards of importance.

[shwaip]

.hmmm NAKED LAN PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rarr::rarr::rarr::rarr::rarr::rarr::rarr:

[TheSmJ]

So QCH is bugging me like a little brother about the SM LAN so I figured I'd better respond. ;D

I would like to make the event; however, I have a single concern - effective cooling for the tent. Even if we put just 20 computers in the tent, without an effective cooling solution, it's going to get pretty miserable.

Sure we can roll up the sides but then your letting in quite a bit of extra sunlight, which as we all know makes it very difficult to see both CRTs and LCDs.

In my opinion this structure needs to be primarily closed off during the day and with an average daytime temp of 80+ degrees, we'll have the makings for a nice indian sweat lodge unless we can find a decent cooling solution.

A/C would be the best and I would be happy to pay the $60 dollars to do this right and not have to worry about heatstroke or my system melting down.

I'm curious as to what others might feel about this as well. The subject was touched on briefly here but I feel it's right up there with "power" in regards of importance.

It's safe to say we'll have AC there in case we need it.

[profdlp]

...The subject was touched on briefly here but I feel it's right up there with "power" in regards of importance.
Mantouch! :eek:

[primesuspect]

It's safe to say we'll have AC there in case we need it.

No it's not. AC is $1800 + a diesel generator running (which the neighbors won't go for)

We are getting a couple of tornado fans to vent air sideways.

[TheSmJ]

What happened to the portable ACs some of us were going to bring?

[primesuspect]

well, i just can't visualize that, but if you think it's worth a shot, bring some window units.

[AuthorityAction]

Just grow a pair and tough it out..

I work down at a steel mill with a furnace that gets hotter than 1500 degrees, the building is easily 100+ in certain spots all the time. There are tons of computers that run the equipment.. and they do just fine and so will you.

;D

[entropy]

Man. It's just not looking good. I haven't had time to officially clear it with anyone, and a job is right around the corner... so I don't know if I'd have enough clout to take off a weekend if the need be.

And thanks Keebler. If I end up coming, and I haven't bought those items by then, I'll hit you up :) I appreciate the offer.

[Clutch]

Awww...entropy..you have to be there bro.

[QCH]

Second Clutch's comments... You HAVE to go, dude.

[Camman]

well, i just can't visualize that, but if you think it's worth a shot, bring some window units.

I'm not sure having several window A/C units will do a lot of good for the power situation. I mean, even window air conditioners draw HUGE amounts of power, we have a seperate breaker that goes just to the plug our A/C is on, it's really going to sap the power you were concerned about for all the PCs.

[AuthorityAction]

:bawling: :bawling:

I don't believe my parents are going to let me attend the LAN this year. I've fought with them many times now, but they always try and come up with some little thing to hold me back (when ever I prove to them that their previous argument is dumb).

Someone else from Missouri will have to work on a potential car pool.

I WILL be there next year.

[RiversCuomo]

:bawling: :bawling:

I don't believe my parents are going to let me attend the LAN this year. I've fought with them many times now, but they always try and come up with some little thing to hold me back (when ever I prove to them that their previous argument is dumb).

Someone else from Missouri will have to work on a potential car pool.

I WILL be there next year.

Come on Jeff! Tell them that my approval alone is enough reason to go.

KEEP FIGHTING THEM!

[bothered]

what's an RCD?

//edit: ah, here in the US we call those GFCIs (Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor)... And yes, you have to by code here.

RCD, risidual current device, they used to be called ELCBs, earth leakage circuit breakers, but after a commitee of euro experts spent several millions of pounds they came up with the new name. Always nice to know they're not wasting it. :)

[AuthorityAction]

Come on Jeff! Tell them that my approval alone is enough reason to go.

KEEP FIGHTING THEM!

Right.. :wtf:

I have not given up hope, it's just that I highly doubt they will let me go.

[shwaip]

lol...they let you work in a steel mill, but they won't let you go to a lan party :p

[AuthorityAction]

shwaip, I'm going to have to add that to my arsenal of arguments. :D

They're just scared of me breaking down and being stranded or prime being a child molester. :eek:

[shwaip]

shwaip, I'm going to have to add that to my arsenal of arguments. :D

They're just scared of me breaking down and being stranded or prime being a child molester. :eek:

Do you have AAA? If you do, they'll come find you and tow your car to the nearest place that can fix it, i beleive. They'll give you a free gallon or two of gas if you run out.

As for prime being a child molester...I can promise nothing ;D

[AuthorityAction]

We have AAA.. I've argued that point a lot lately. They aren't sure if one of them would have to be there though, since its in their name. Does anyone know if its the car of the person that AAA cares about?

I'll keep trying though, I really want to go. Hopefully one of them will get around to calling prime soon.

[primesuspect]

Just show them pictures of last year's lan. Lots of parents give their CHILDREN to ME muhhahahhaha... As for the molestation, I only molested mondi and raul - i THINK raul was 18, i can't remember..... :wtf:

[Thrax]

Show them prime's kids, but don't tell them they're prime's kids. ;D

[profdlp]

Show them prime's kids, but don't tell them they're prime's kids. ;D
Pass the Jesus-Juice. :mullet:

[primesuspect]

oh the heady days of mulletude.... :mullet:

[Nomad]

Peng, I'm the same age as you and I met Brian a year ago when I was sixteen.

[Tex]

Peng, I'm the same age as you and I met Brian a year ago when I was sixteen.

I feel sooooooooooooooo OLD!

You guys kill me.

Tex

Crap I have been building computers longer then most you guys have even sucked air for gods sake.

I remember when the IBM XT came out (PC but WITH A 10mb HD) and we thought WHO COULD FILL UP 10 MB on a PC? Or the AT came out and the magazines all questioned who but scientists could use this much horsepower... (never set a secretary down on one that did a spellcheck that would give it back.. they would of clawed your eyes out with scissors first) But the HUGE change came when Seagate started selling 80mb NOT GB drives for $800. Crap I was booting Dos and xenix and had half a drive left over after having 6 customers custom software and a full development env loaded.

PARADISE

I should write an article about the OLD days for you young uns.

[Thrax]

You <i>are</i> old, Tex. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Thrax/Smilies/smug.gif

[Tex]

You <i>are</i> old, Tex. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Thrax/Smilies/smug.gif

Yes but.....

I can still party most you whipper snappers butts into the dirt.

LMAO

Tex

And have tales that will curl your toes to boot.

[primesuspect]

me and qch were just talking about greybeards last night ;)

You always run into these guys (not you, tex... guys way older than you), and they're always telling you about punchcards and how they used to work on vax, etc. And no matter which guy you are talking to, the stories are always the same. "I used to work on computers that filled up a whole room!" or "We used to boot them off punch cards!" or "They used to have cylinder hard drives that were 512K! KAY!", etc.

;D

[Tex]

me and qch were just talking about greybeards last night ;)

You always run into these guys (not you, tex... guys way older than you), ;D

I'm almost 50 now. When I was a kid we were working on a software dev. project almost around the clock trying to finish .... The stupid thermostat for the office was programmed to go off at 8:00 at night and come on early in the morning. So it was cold as hellll about 4:00 AM.

We used to sleep by the exhaust port of the hard drives in the computer room to keep warm.

5mb fixed and 5mb removable drives! The thing was half the size of a washing machine. The 5mb removable looked like 10 old record albums stacked an inch apart in a clear dome thing.

FIVE MB!

And the HD exhaust was like a modern cars heater turned on high.

And we did the programming in my school on friggin punch cards. I feel even OLDER now prime. (grin) THANKS.

I just adapt better to newer stuff and don't live in the past. (grin) I think I beta tested every single version of Windows from 3.0 on.... You just gotta keep an open mind... learn and keep growing.

Some are stuck in the old days. I like to think I kept stumbling in a haze into the future. Ok drugs may of been involved....

Tex

[CB]

I remember telling my friend Ben once that I thought fixed HDs would never really 'catch on'.

When they were being discussed, I saw them as a passing novelty...

ah, from the mouth of babes...

[SewerTroopr]

I'm 39. Not quite as old as Tex but I still had to use the punch cards in high school.

Do people use a headphone/mic combination at LAN parties or is it headphones and a bunch of yelling across the tent?

[Leonardo]

Do people use a headphone/mic combination at LAN parties or is it headphones and a bunch of yelling across the tent? Yelling, plus heavy objects hurled across the room, such as bricks! :eek:

[entropy]

;D

"Not over THERE, stupid!" *half-full Mountain Dew can flies across the room*

[oCoMiK]

Just show them pictures of last year's lan. Lots of parents give their CHILDREN to ME muhhahahhaha... As for the molestation, I only molested mondi and raul - i THINK raul was 18, i can't remember..... :wtf:

I went to the LAN last year and my a$$ is still hurting!!!! And Prime said the Jesus juice would relax me :shakehead

[pseudonym]

-tk took advantage of me :shakehead

[QCH]

Do people use a headphone/mic combination at LAN parties or is it headphones and a bunch of yelling across the tent?

For some of the games we used headphones and mic's. For BF: DC, we did... Halo (oh, wait, we never played that), UT2004, we may have... but I don't remember. There was alot of yelling though.

[TheSmJ]

There was a lotta yelling. I remember that.

[CB]

I just type fast if my team-mate is not right next to me...

[Zanthian]

Will there be an internet connection?

[primesuspect]

6mb cable, yes.

[CB]

Is there a bathroom at Prime's house?...

[primesuspect]

No, CB. Usually we just piss off the curb onto 10 mile, but sometimes the cars swerve to avoid it and crash into each other, and then we have to run like bitches, and that's no fun :(

[Lincoln]

Is there a bathroom at Prime's house?...Nope, they don't pee. (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64866&postcount=26) :(




//edit: Dammit, prime beat me to the draw! ;D

[profdlp]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! ;D ;D

(Bring an empty One-Gallon Milk Jug, just in case.) :cool:

[Leonardo]

(Bring an empty One-Gallon Milk Jug, just in case.) :cool:Yes, then you'll have something to through at each other - much safer than bricks.

[Camman]

alright well I think I'm gonna stop with the malarky (w00t, word score) of last year and see sawing about whether or not I'm gonna go cause I KNOW you all want to meet me :D I'm going to book my tickets either today or tomorrow methinks cause it'll be $245 roundtrip on Northwest from Manchester->DTW (non-stop cause I'm afraid of layovers).

Do you guys think I'll be good if I like mail my computer parts via Fedex, UPS, or something of that nature like a few days in advance? That's how I'm planning on doing it. I'll probably order a cheapo case and have it shipped to casa de Prime and just donate it to SMx or something after the LAN so I dont have to ship it back. I saw a couple people saying they could bring along an extra monitor, anybody want to reserve one for me???

I'm a newb to this so anybody who did the ol' computer-shipping-cause-im-taking-a-plane deal last year let me know how you did it please :)

[QCH]

Camman... I will bring a spare monitor. As for the case thingy... I could even bring an extra of that as well. Donating Cases to the SMx Project is not really worth it since the shipping can sometimes cost as much as the case.

When do you plan on flying in? Friday is probably too late since you need to assemble the system and get setup. How about Thursday afternoon or something?

I'll be there by 4:00 PM on Thursday.

[Camman]

my planned itenirary is 7/27 - 8/2

let me check the ol' windows calendar.... 7/27 is Wednesday, so yea that would be good :) If you wanted to help me out with the case/monitor situation I would be forever in your debt :D

[QCH]

Yep.. no problem. I'll mark you down for my 12" B/W monitor and microATX ase... ;D

19" Monitor & generic case... what PSU do you think you'll need? 400W be enough?

[Camman]

Yep.. no problem. I'll mark you down for my 12" B/W monitor and microATX ase... ;D

19" Monitor & generic case... what PSU do you think you'll need? 400W be enough?

w000t 12" B/w.... will be like back when I was young and got my first TV. :)


That stuff sounds great, 400W will def be sufficient. the system im bringing will be an AXP 3000+, soyo dragon kt400, 1gb pc2700, geforce 6600gt and soundblaster live. I def appreciate it, my big concern with taking a plane would be how I'd get my comp there but this sounds like it'll work out great if I pack my stuff well, I still have the original boxes and such so I think i can pack it to prevent breakage

\\\ and as a side note, just booked my flight, I'm officially coming to SMLAN05, w0000t

[primesuspect]

sweet

[Black Hawk]

alright well I think I'm gonna stop with the malarky (w00t, word score) of last year and see sawing about whether or not I'm gonna go cause I KNOW you all want to meet me :D I'm going to book my tickets either today or tomorrow methinks cause it'll be $245 roundtrip on Northwest from Manchester->DTW (non-stop cause I'm afraid of layovers).

Do you guys think I'll be good if I like mail my computer parts via Fedex, UPS, or something of that nature like a few days in advance? That's how I'm planning on doing it. I'll probably order a cheapo case and have it shipped to casa de Prime and just donate it to SMx or something after the LAN so I dont have to ship it back. I saw a couple people saying they could bring along an extra monitor, anybody want to reserve one for me???

I'm a newb to this so anybody who did the ol' computer-shipping-cause-im-taking-a-plane deal last year let me know how you did it please :)

I think I'm the only one that shipped their pc parts. I just put them in a box, went to the UPS store and had them ship it. They suck! Pack the thing yourself with as much packaging material can fit. Then ship it via FedEx or UPS a day before leaving, use 2 or 3 day air and book your flight so you arrive 2-3 days earlier. Can't remember how much it weighed but it cost like $95 I think.

[primesuspect]

Yeah, what he said - pack the thing yourself! Those UPS clowns don't give a crap about your computer.

It cost $85 to UPS that 20 pound box from puerto rico to michigan, IIRC.

[Camman]

I've become a supar expert at shipping stuff cause of all the crap I've been selling on ebay. I cant imagine it would cost $85 to ship from Portsmouth to Detroit. I'll def be packing the stuff myself. I'll only be shipping the mobo, video card, memory, hard drive, and video card so i should be able to get it nice, secure, and snug-like in a box. Man I'm so excited that I'm going :D

[QCH]

We're up to 31 now? That's AWESOME!!!!!

[primesuspect]

I'm not counting my kids or myself, so actually we have 28 - which leaves 12 spots open.

[QCH]

Ocomik says he may not be able to go after all... Looks like Q's driving solo :shakehead

[primesuspect]

:(

[Camman]

does anyone think it would be easier for me to just pack everything in a box and stuff it in my luggage? I have one of those huge suitcase dealies with the wheels and the box I'm going to using is pretty slim size and will fit all my components, I could probably just pack it nice and tight then slide it into the bottom of my suitcase and pack clothes on top of it to keep it from jiggling around too much. I can't imagine the baghandlers will be any worse than going through Fedex/UPS sort facilities.

Or will that arise too much suspicion, me being the shady looking guy that I am :eek3:

[QCH]

He needs to be razzed.... ;D

P.S. You know Q and I are down with helping out. If QCH tries to lay down some lame excuse about his MBA, I'll put the smackdown on him - you heard it hear first! From Here... (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247117&postcount=53)

[QCH]

I would think that packing the parts into you suit case would be cheaper, and beter protected, assuming you suitcase is rigid.

[TheSmJ]

RyThom says he's going. He PM you yet Brian?

I'll be able to lend a couple (2) 15" monitors. They're not the best, but they're wayyy better than nothing. In fact, I used one at the LAN last year.

[primesuspect]

TheSMJ - perhaps you haven't been keeping track of the attendees thread (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32690) :p

[Camman]

I would think that packing the parts into you suit case would be cheaper, and beter protected, assuming you suitcase is rigid.

Yeah, my suitcase is like one of those upright kinds with the plastic surround so it's really hard and I'll package the stuff all good.

This won't arise any question with security at the airports will it? I only ask because I've only flown once and that was like over 5 years ago, so I don't know what the security procedures are. And I think we've gone over this before, but, X-ray scanning won't affect my hard drive or RAM or anything like that, right?

[mmonnin]

Make sure eveyone has some spare HDD space! :eek: :eek: :D

[primesuspect]

Well guys, we need to start getting the registrations wrapped up, since we have to get shirts made and all that. I'll be closing the registrations on Saturday, June 25th.

If you're on the fence, now's the time to jump over it and register already! :D

[primesuspect]

PS: If you don't see your name on this thread (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32690), that means you haven't PMed me a confirmation yet. If you think you're going, but you're not there, then I don't think you're coming yet! :eek2:

[Camman]

Just paypal'ed you my registration fee, almost forgot about it, sorry! :)

[maximusbad]

man this sounds like it is going to be great fun and while i wish i could come, I can't. Gotta start packing cause I'm moving, but if I were to come I would drive. Hope you guys have a good time and post some pics when it's done. Would love to see how much fun it was and maybe I will be able to make it next year.

[DogSoldier]

Let me get this right, we're gonna be setup in Prime's backyard under a huge white tent (At the height of summer) with no air conditioning?!?

SOUNDS LIKE FUN!!!

Here's a prediction, very little gaming will get done in the daytime, but come sundown.. everyone will be yelling and screaming. And there might even be some playing computer games.

[MiracleManS]

Just paypal'ed you my registration fee, almost forgot about it, sorry! :)

Me too, must remind myself to do that this evening...

[primesuspect]

Anybody who doesn't have UT2K4 can buy it today and tomorrow at gogamer.com for $9.90 + $1.99 shipping. This is the DVD version. Crazy price!

[CB]

That is a good price!

[SewerTroopr]

Anybody who doesn't have UT2K4 can buy it today and tomorrow at gogamer.com for $9.90 + $1.99 shipping. This is the DVD version. Crazy price!

Aaaqrgh! I just bought it at Amazon.com a few hours ago. Oh well, Amazon's prices aren't too bad either.

I also ordered Half-Life 2 and Pacific Fighters. I'll pick-up Battlefield 2 before the LAN since it has a lot of buzz.

I'm not sure how much FPS I'll be able to do before the LAN. I'm still addicted to Rome Total War. So many games, so little time....

[Lincoln]

I'm actually not a big gamer and low on funds. I'll see about UT2K4 and HL2 though... never played either.

[MiracleManS]

Teh PAIDZOR!

[primesuspect]

One week left to register! :( I'm actually quite surprised at the low turnout. Everyone gets so hyped up about the event and then when we actually nail everything down, not that many people sign up! :scratch:

What happened to the Missouri crew? Leishi? Anybody else from the east coast? Come on people! This only happens once a year! :thumbsup:

[entropy]

Someday...

[AuthorityAction]

Most of the Missouri crew is 17. I've tried and tried but the parents keep giving me a big no. I think most of the guys were waiting on my parents to say ok so that they could tell theirs that I already got approved. It's sad, I know. :bawling:

The Missouri crew would be more than happy to hold a SM LAN in Missouri, it's a nice central location. We've already got a LANing group set up and numerous locations we can use. My parents would go for that one. :thumbsup:

[Nomad]

What's their main concern?

[AuthorityAction]

The 24+ hours that I'd have to drive round trip. What if I get hurt or something, I'd be so far away. What if the boogey man got me. They're real skeptical of the internet and are afraid that you guys aren't who you really say you are. They just kept naming off really stupid stuff.

[leishi85]

i'm kind of busy in summer, i don't think i can make the time avilable to come to the LAN.

[Leonardo]

They're real skeptical of the internet and are afraid that you guys aren't who you really say you are. They just kept naming off really stupid stuff. It's good to know some parents out there care very much about their children and love them completely. It's unfortunate that they don't understand the community of caring, supportive people here at Short-Media. Can't blame them. They don't have the time to visit the forums as much as you (or I) do.

I took a long road trip when I was 17. Parents went with me. ;D

With that said, I feel for you. Wish there was a way to impart to your parents about the responsible, organized hosts of the S-M LAN.

[RWB]

I really wish I could go, but I don't know what it will be like for me at that time. I have very little money with my parents gorging me becuase I was gorging them in Florida, and I am trying to move to Dallas to find a job there near my cousins. I swore I'd go to this one, but I just don't think I can. Even tried pretending it wasn't gonna happen despite the repeated sightings of S-M Lan 2005 thread(s). :bawling:

[Nomad]

Authority, ask them what you would need to do to come to the LAN.

[RiversCuomo]

The 24+ hours that I'd have to drive round trip. What if I get hurt or something, I'd be so far away. What if the boogey man got me. They're real skeptical of the internet and are afraid that you guys aren't who you really say you are. They just kept naming off really stupid stuff.

Yeah, I already talked to my parent about it, im good to go. I was waiting for the "ok" from you. Maybe things will shape up.... If the "boogey man" wants to try something, im sure that four 17 year olds could poke his **** in ;D
I understand the whole "what if the internet people arent who they say they are" but being around these forums gives you a real sense that everyone is who they are and you feel like you've personally known them for a while. We could switch drivers every once in a while, im a damn good driver, I just dont have a very good sense of direction.....at all. As long as someone is there to tell me where to go and what turn to make then we can get there safely. Keep pushing, ive gotta ask for those days off in advance.

[ryko]

sorry, i don't think i will be able to make it. my job scheduling is pretty much week to week so i don't really know in advance if i can take time off. makes plane tickets really expensive if you can't get them early. plus i just moved/drove to new york from chicago about a month ago, so i don't know if i can handle two major road trips in such a short time span.

i would like to attend and actually meet some of you guys, but wouldn't be able to let you know untill right before the LAN. might be able to do a random pop-in if i am not busy that week. but if we have to commit by a certain time i am afraid i won't be able to.

[Shorty]

I cant make it because the flight would cost me £600+ (around $1200!) and I have a phase one rollout on that weekend as well now (I was told yesterday) :(

Enjoy it.. it's well worth going! :D

[Lincoln]

Authority, would having them call Brian help?

If you have AAA, you can't get stranded :)

[primesuspect]

Ryko, there is a road trip contingent coming from NY. And by contingent, I mean Kwitko... A possible carpool?

[Tex]

I cant make it because the flight would cost me £600+ (around $1200!) and I have a phase one rollout on that weekend as well now (I was told yesterday) :(

Enjoy it.. it's well worth going! :D

I think Rob and I should fly to the UK and party with you and Nat instead.

Believe it or not.. it's not that much more expensive to see you guys in the UK versus stay in a tent in Detroit, if I can get cheap hotel rates.

Tex

[leishi85]

for real, sometime domestic flight isn't much cheaper than international flights.

i ijust took a trip to china in may, and the roundtrip ticket cost me about 800 USD.

[shwaip]

Registration fee sent <3

[ryko]

Ryko, there is a road trip contingent coming from NY. And by contingent, I mean Kwitko... A possible carpool?


hmmmm.......very interesting. Kwitko what's your plan?

[Aranyic]

I had to back out last year, I'm game this time around though.

[AuthorityAction]

Authority, would having them call Brian help?

If you have AAA, you can't get stranded :)

They have Brian's number in their posession but I don't think they'll call. It's just a flat out no right now, no matter what I try. I'll make it there next year.. if it's the last thing I do.

[QCH]

Hurry guys... I can assure you, this LAN is something you don't want to miss!!!!

[RiversCuomo]

They have Brian's number in their posession but I don't think they'll call. It's just a flat out no right now, no matter what I try. I'll make it there next year.. if it's the last thing I do.

Looks like all hope is lost for me. He was my ride and that would have made a total of 3 or 4 more people coming. Tell them to call Brian. Seriously.

[primesuspect]

Yeah, to reassure them, just show them this (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138283&postcount=283), one of last year's attendees.... ;) err.. I mean.. um...

show them this (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137877&postcount=261)... There's not one face in that crowd that would hurt a fly... :)

[QCH]

Well.... would driving to Illinois then having someone drive you the rest help any?

[RiversCuomo]

How much room do you have? He was planning on taking a couple more people(including me).

[QCH]

I have a mini van... I could bring 3 others and still carry the PC stuff. I'm just out side of Chicago. If you can get to me, I can drive to Detroit. I WAS going to leave Wednesday night or Thursday morning so I can help setup... Let me know if this helps. I don't want to leave any later than 10:00 AM on Thursday. I have a tent you could borrow and you can camp out back Wednesday, if you like.

[primesuspect]

Three more days to sign up!

You can still register after Saturday but you will probably not get a T-Shirt :(

Sorry, but we have to get these things ordered.

[DogSoldier]

On a similar note.. I'm making those nifty laminated nametags that you'll be wearing and noone pays attention too. So please, if you came to the 2004 Lan and still have that nametag, bring it. For those of you who are first-timers, I need your Avatar and first name, you can pvt msg me that info. :mullet:

[shwaip]

I PMed you my info. Did ya get it?

[QCH]

I loved the name tags... I paid attention to them.... :thumbsup:

[leishi85]

i still have my name tag from last year, love it.

[CB]

Me too, it's on my desk, where I hung it when I got back from last year, in full display...

[Crazy Joe]

LOL, CB you're sloganizer right now says Jesus loves Butterflyman... ;D

[test_tube_tony]

i too loved the name tag. mine spent some time hanging from the rear view mirror in my car, but the flashing of the sun off of it got to be too distracting, so i hung it from the shelf above my desk. i would love to have a 2005 name tag as well to hang next to it. PM me if thats ok.

[DogSoldier]

Yea Shwaip, Nomad, profdlp, MiracleManS, Camman and Aranyic.. I got the info you sent.

Thanks guys.. Yesterday, I was having a discussion with my wife, I was griping about the amount of work involved in producing these things and mentioned that only the first-timers were getting tags.. she said it sounded stupid, "Why not make them for everybody?" :scratch: I agreed.. So hey guys, don't tell anyone but I'll be making nametags for everyone, not just the n00bs. Once I'm done.. I'll parcel them up to Bruce about a week before the event.

[QCH]

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That's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(Brian up his pay... double it even.)

[primesuspect]

His salary has just doubled.

[MAGIC]

Awesome new tags, are same avatar as last year or you gunna use current ones?

[DogSoldier]

Current ones.

[mmonnin]

Hehe Bruce!

Yeah I still have mine. Its been on my CRT since I got back. Its clipped onto my screen dust cleaner.