Forum Upgrade

[Shorty]

It's time for a forum upgrade & update :)

The version of Vbulletin we are running (while patched to the correct security level) is getting long in the tooth and we need to bring it up to date, so that all the nifty little features in the new versions are available to you :)

So if the forums go offline for an hour at some point today, you know why ;D :D

[madmat]

Oh boy... ;)

[Necropolis]

Its taken bloody long enough ;) ;D

[Shorty]

Ok folks.. Im gonna make a cuppa (of tea) and then shut the forums & site down for a bit :)

VBulletin 3.5 has masses of changes that have significantly changed the frontpage as well. It's taken me most of the day just to get the frontpage fixed as well. Bit by bit :)

[Shorty]

Well it took just over an hour and it appears to be all working ok :)

Yes, most things have reverted back to default but this is because VB3.5 changed not only the forums but required 29 pages of code from the frontpage to be changed as well :)

I will add back in hot threads and so on over the next few hours and the little hacks will re-appear, please just give me some time and report all bugs in this thread please :)

[Trogan]

I miss the link for short-Media at the bottom as it was easier to click on.

For example:
Short-Media Forums > Short-Media > Feedback << would be at the top
Short-Media Forums > Short-Media > Feedback << would be at the bottom


Where are the orginal smilies that used to be in the front???

EDIT: Click the attachment for bigger pic. I like the edit feature :thumbsup:

[Shorty]

I plenty of edits and things to do :)

I will be doing them all over the next day or so. This upgrade effected every customised template, alot of code changes and masses of frontpage work. It will come in time :)

[Trogan]

Thanks shorty :)

[Thrax]

//EDIT: Trogan addressed my concern already.

Secondly, I believe there used to be solid-black 1px borders around all the separate posts in a thread, and I'd really like that line back as it kept everything containered and clean.

[Trogan]

One more thing: I also don't like the look of the new stickies. I prefer the way they were. :)

[Shorty]

Both will be returning :)

Im just having some food as I've not stopped working on this for about 12 hours today and most of last night as well :)

[Thrax]

In the vein of things that are good, I like the new edit box which doesn't make you reload the page, and I like the knew quick-reply box as it is easily-expandable so one can keep track of everything being written.

[Shorty]

//EDIT: Trogan addressed my concern already.

Secondly, I believe there used to be solid-black 1px borders around all the separate posts in a thread, and I'd really like that line back as it kept everything containered and clean.
Done :)

[Trogan]

For example:
Short-Media Forums > Short-Media > Feedback << would be at the top
Short-Media Forums > Short-Media > Feedback << would be at the bottom

Thanks for putting the bottom back, Shorty :)

[Sledgehammer70]

I see lots of missing items! I can't live without my Short Media Bytes! where oh where are they?

[Shorty]

I see lots of missing items! I can't live without my Short Media Bytes! where oh where are they?
I can see em there. You must be blind mate :D

[Sledgehammer70]

lol they were missing for a few minutes...

[Shorty]

lol they were missing for a few minutes...
Gotta be quicker than that to catch me out son :D

[Sledgehammer70]

hey shorty did you ever get any of my 1000 pm's :) i have been trying to get ahold of you about forums... If you remember that thread?

[Shorty]

I have one with your contact details on and have never seen you on MSN despite adding you mate :)

[Sledgehammer70]

LOL I am on MSN 24/ 7 along with AIM

Edited out to avoid spam!

[Trogan]

What about the stickies? And the SVT Forum?

[entropy]

Couple things I noticed, not to pester you, Shorty.

The block of space between different sections is gone. I couldn't figure out why the main page was itching at my mind so much, and I think that's it. Also, the bar separating stickies from regular threads is gone (unless you already covered that... I don't really know).

[Spinner]

Bug: Can't change avatars. "Unable to save avatar"

Just a heads up mate. :)

[madmat]

The lack of choice in the "new posts" button really bites...I really liked that part.

[fatcat]

The lack of choice in the "new posts" button really bites...I really liked that part.

I 2nd that...gimme back my New Posts options please!

[Kwitko]

Patience, people! Shorty is only one person and he's got a full time job.

[dragonV8]

Short one, just about all the threads have bold writing, even the ones i have read. Is that part of what you are working on or a different feature.:mullet:

Keep checking thinking they have had a new reply.:grumble: ;D

Reply not required.

[Shorty]

Short one, just about all the threads have bold writing, even the ones i have read. Is that part of what you are working on or a different feature.:mullet:

Keep checking thinking they have had a new reply.:grumble: ;D

Reply not required.
That's persistent "marked as read" feature :)

If you haven't read a thread, it will remain bold.. even if you log out and go away for several days. It was a heavily requested feature :)

[Shorty]

I 2nd that...gimme back my New Posts options please!

The lack of choice in the "new posts" button really bites...I really liked that part.

Back as requested :)

[Shorty]

Bug: Can't change avatars. "Unable to save avatar"

Just a heads up mate. :)
Fixed. It had lost permissions on the folder as it was replaced :)

[Shorty]

Couple things I noticed, not to pester you, Shorty.

The block of space between different sections is gone. I couldn't figure out why the main page was itching at my mind so much, and I think that's it. Also, the bar separating stickies from regular threads is gone (unless you already covered that... I don't really know).
I need to explain more (preferably with pictures), so I can understand your request :)

[Shorty]

What about the stickies? And the SVT Forum?
Stickies are 50/50%. It is felt that seperating the stickies means they get missed. I am going to highlight/bold the sticky word instead and see how it goes :)

SVT will be repaired to work as it did today :)

[madmat]

I can't get new posts to work at all, the only way I can check new posts is to hit quick links.

Otherwise I hit new posts and the page just scrolls to the bottom.

[Shorty]

I can't get new posts to work at all, the only way I can check new posts is to hit quick links.

Otherwise I hit new posts and the page just scrolls to the bottom.
Load the Short-Media forums home page and hit F5 to refresh your browser. Chances are you are caching the old javascript :)

I've just tried it in both IE and FireFox. Both are working a-ok :)

[Jimborae]

Um don't know if this has been mentioned but none of the radio buttons work when posting in advanced mode. i.e bold & hyperlink & insert buttons don't work

[Shorty]

Um don't know if this has been mentioned but none of the radio buttons work when posting in advanced mode. i.e bold & hyperlink & insert buttons don't work
Il take a look. More than likely you need to clear your browser cache/temp internet files of old js javascript files :)

[madmat]

Load the Short-Media forums home page and hit F5 to refresh your browser. Chances are you are caching the old javascript :)

I've just tried it in both IE and FireFox. Both are working a-ok :)

Thanks boss, that cleared it up quicker than it took to read your instructions. :thumbup

[Shorty]

Thanks boss, that cleared it up quicker than it took to read your instructions. :thumbup
Not a problem, glad that worked for you :)

[DogSoldier]

Too much complaining and not enough thanks.

Thank you Dan!

[Shorty]

Too much complaining and not enough thanks.

Thank you Dan!
That's ok mate :)

This is only an interim scheme until the MASTER ART GOD has a .psd I can slice up to use for the forum skin :D

Umm.. wonder who that might be :D

[Trogan]

Thank You :thumbsup:

One more thing: Can we have the smilies back in quick reply?

Thanks :D

[Leonardo]

Are all images banished to the "IMG View", the itty-bitty picture link? Or do I have a setting wrong?

[Shorty]

Are all images banished to the "IMG View", the itty-bitty picture link? Or do I have a setting wrong?
Thumbnails are now active to help cut down the HUGE page loading times that have started occuring :)

It's a test to see how things go, if the general consensus hate it, il put it back as it was :)

[Shorty]

Thank You :thumbsup:

One more thing: Can we have the smilies back in quick reply?

Thanks :D
We'l see on smilies :)

[Trogan]

OK, Thanks Shorty :)

[GHoosdum]

Great work, as usual, Shorty.

I like your idea of keeping the stickies and normal threads together, you're right in saying they got missed previously.

I also like the quick reply box that is smilie-free. I can "Go Advanced" if I forget what a particular smilie's code is, but it just seems so much cleaner without them right there on Quick Reply.

I also very much appreciate the persistent read/unread status on the threads.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[Spinner]

Fixed. It had lost permissions on the folder as it was replaced :)Cheers chief! :ukflag:

[MrBill]

Don't know if I missed it in this thread, but there used to be a "preview" of the first post if you held your cursor over a thread title. Can we have that back?

Thanks for all you do Shorty!

[Shorty]

Don't know if I missed it in this thread, but there used to be a "preview" of the first post if you held your cursor over a thread title. Can we have that back?

Thanks for all you do Shorty!
I can put that back easy enough, it's a VB option. Didn't think anyone used it anyway ;D

Sorry buddy!

[madmat]

I just would like to say, Shorty, you kick butt!

[Sledgehammer70]

Hey shorty Can I ask a question?

I was wondering if you could help me add the option of sperating Stickeys from regular threads like SM. is there anyway you could send me the code insert for that option?

[Shorty]

Hey shorty Can I ask a question?

I was wondering if you could help me add the option of sperating Stickeys from regular threads like SM. is there anyway you could send me the code insert for that option?
Check PM :)

[Sledgehammer70]

Your the man! but I would still also liek some help in skinning my forums :) if you ever have a chance to jump on aim :)

[Shorty]

Your the man! but I would still also liek some help in skinning my forums :) if you ever have a chance to jump on aim :)
Over the weekend, Il make some time :)

[Sledgehammer70]

awesome!

[Sledgehammer70]

I am on all today! if you have a quick chance!

[danball1976]

It seems the post formatting icons in quick reply and advanced reply don't work (FireFox - don't know about IE)

[Shorty]

Clear your browser cache. You still caching the older javascript :)

[Necropolis]

I dont know if this was working before but /me doesnt seem to work now (its been a long time since I tried it but its broke now)

[Shorty]

I dont know if this was working before but /me doesnt seem to work now (its been a long time since I tried it but its broke now)
/me doesn't seem to have any problems.. aha!

[danball1976]

I did that, and it works now.

/me doesn't have any problems

Also, I like the in post editing

[Leonardo]

Also, I like the in post editing So do I.

[danball1976]

What is the deal with being only able to view today's posts. It used to be where you could view new posts. I liked that old way better.

Oh, and as soon as this posted, FireFox closed with nary a warning. No program error at all.

[bothered]

I now seem to have a prob with SM.
When I post anything the screen goes to a white, blank window with 'done' at the bottom. That'll sit there until I open Firefox again then I get the send to microsoft message and firefox shuts down. If I then reopen it and come back the post has been posted. This only happens with SM, I have cleared the cashe etc.
If I edit my post and save it works ok, it's just with new posts.

[madmat]

Strange, I'm running FireFox with no odd issues.

[Aranyic]

All you with firefox here is quote from shorty in another thread:

Clear our your temporary internet files and cache. We have upgraded to the latest version of VBulletin and you are probably caching an older version of the Javascript

A few others have experienced the same thing. Once done, remember to hit F5 on the forums home page. This will guarantee you are getting the updated code


Hope it helps ya

[Jimborae]

Can we also have the link back to the front page of short-media.com that used to be in the tool bar at the top. Or was I the only one to use that to checkout the Short-Media.com page?

[sfleuriet]

EDIT:::: AHHH I should've read above first. Thanks a lot for the helpful quote, Aranyic :)

I'd like to add that I REEEALLY still would like to see a privelige modification where you can edit the Thread Title of threads you've started. I need this a lot in the DD&TP (Ex. ///SOLD///), and I'm surely not the only one that finds this inconvenient. Thanks :)

[Shorty]

EDIT:::: AHHH I should've read above first. Thanks a lot for the helpful quote, Aranyic :)

I'd like to add that I REEEALLY still would like to see a privelige modification where you can edit the Thread Title of threads you've started. I need this a lot in the DD&TP (Ex. ///SOLD///), and I'm surely not the only one that finds this inconvenient. Thanks :)
It's not an option in VBulletin that I can grant.

[Trogan]

Shorty, could you put the changes back in the SVT forum please? It used the have "!", "?" and a check mark for closed thread.

Thanks :)

[Leonardo]

I'd like to add that I REEEALLY still would like to see a privelige modification where you can edit the Thread Title of threads you've started. I need this a lot in the DD&TP (Ex. ///SOLD///), and I'm surely not the only one that finds this inconvenient. Thanks :)That's a good one! Omega and I don't always have the time to screen thread titles for accuracy there. It's frustrating for users to get all excited about a for-sale offering only to open the thread, dig through it, and find that the item is no longer available. Thread title editing makes the Trading browsing much easier for the users and moderators.

[fatcat]

um...can i have my animated moose avatar back please....

id post a pic of the error but i also notice we cant post pics.,...yet?

tia

[Shorty]

um...can i have my animated moose avatar back please....

id post a pic of the error but i also notice we cant post pics.,...yet?

tia
You can post pics mate, nothing has changed setting wise. Shoot me an email :)

[TheLostSwede]

If the rest of the webmasters and webcrew out there where half as talented as Dan and the rest of the crew here are, the intarwebnet would be a whole lot easier place to use. I surf between 85-90 forums every day and none even comes close to SM when it comes to looks and ease of reading. A big round of applause.

[QCH]

OUTSTANDING work Shorty!!!! Looks good, so far. :thumbsup:

[sfleuriet]

I forgot to credit DogSoldier - Very very excellent work. It looks fantastic! :clap:

[Shorty]

Thanks guys, this has been so well received, I didn't expect it! :D

[muddocktor]

It's looking really good, Dan. One problem I am having though is with the insert link button. When I push it, it only pops up a url box with no text box. Since I never can remember how to insert text into the link, I have been having to open a reply box at the overclockers forum to use their insert link button, then cut-n-paste it here.

[GHoosdum]

I just realized the "Team 93" graphics below people's avatars are missing in the new version.

[sfleuriet]

It's looking really good, Dan. One problem I am having though is with the insert link button. When I push it, it only pops up a url box with no text box. Since I never can remember how to insert text into the link, I have been having to open a reply box at the overclockers forum to use their insert link button, then cut-n-paste it here.
Yes I noticed that yesterday, but here's how you do it by hand:
SPAM SPAM SPAM (http://www.newegg.com)

[Shorty]

I just realized the "Team 93" graphics below people's avatars are missing in the new version.
They will be returning :)

// They have :D

[Shorty]

It's looking really good, Dan. One problem I am having though is with the insert link button. When I push it, it only pops up a url box with no text box. Since I never can remember how to insert text into the link, I have been having to open a reply box at the overclockers forum to use their insert link button, then cut-n-paste it here.
Not sure why it's doing that Mud. Il take a look over @ VBulletin.com

[danball1976]

It seems that the "post quick reply" button at the bottom causes firefox 1.0.7 to crash and error out.

[fatcat]

You can post pics mate, nothing has changed setting wise. Shoot me an email :)

well nice...i see where it is in IE...but in firefox it no worky, hell i cant click on anything in firefox, smiley's insert hyperlink, nothing....but it works fine in IE.

this is the error i get trying to load my avatar, but i havent tried it in IE, just firefox.

>>edit...tried IE...cant upload animated gif....:grr:

[danball1976]

well nice...i see where it is in IE...but in firefox it no worky, hell i cant click on anything in firefox, smiley's insert hyperlink, nothing....but it works fine in IE.

this is the error i get trying to load my avatar, but i havent tried it in IE, just firefox.

>>edit...tried IE...cant upload animated gif....:grr:

Try clearing FireFox's cache to get smileys to work and other buttons, it worked for me.

[sfleuriet]

Testing Post Quick Reply in FF

EDIT: Worked perfectly for me..

[fatcat]

Try clearing FireFox's cache to get smileys to work and other buttons, it worked for me.


ok thanks danball...that worked for the smiley's etc...lemme try to upload my animated gif moose to avatar again...

edit>> yup...still cant upload animated gif's for avatar...altho i see some people with animated avatars...any suggestions?

[Shorty]

ok thanks danball...that worked for the smiley's etc...lemme try to upload my animated gif moose to avatar again...

edit>> yup...still cant upload animated gif's for avatar...altho i see some people with animated avatars...any suggestions?
Im still trying to figure out why it wont allow animated gifs, that's a bit wierd!

[Spinner]

Im still trying to figure out why it wont allow animated gifs, that's a bit wierd!Yeah, I also had a few problems with varying sizes of my animated avatar, but I got it to work in the end. :-/

[fatcat]

Im still trying to figure out why it wont allow animated gifs, that's a bit wierd!

its only 66 x 90 pixels and 16.7kb. let me know if you want me to send ya the file or not shorty

well i just loaded it here anyways :bigggrin:

[fatcat]

hey what ya know my beloved avatar of 4 yrs is back!!!

shorty u da man :thumbsup:

[Shorty]

No problem :)

[scott]

Shorty and Dogsoldier

I really like the new look !! Good work.

Shorty
Your dedication and persistance is above and beyond. My hat is off to you.

The only thing I do not like is the attached thumbnails. I liked it better when the pictures were just displayed. I did read your comment on page loading times. Is it a bandwidth issue for the server ? Or just an issue with users with slow connections ? It has never been "Slow" for me. Would it be possible to make it a choice in the users control panel ?

Again

Awesome work guys ! Thanks


Scott

[Camman]

Cool look on the upgrade, very nice. Just thought I'd chime in that I'm getting a lot of "Done but with errors" messages on showthread pages and it seems a lot of time the pages are "sticking", ie: they load like half the page and then stick so I have to reload the page one or more times to get it to complete.

Perhaps a problem on my end but I havent seen this behavior on other vbulletin forums. I'm running XP SP2 on IE 6.0.2900

[sfleuriet]

Would it be possible to make it a choice in the users control panel ?

That's a very good thought. I also like to just be able to see them without clicking, but if its a server problem that needs to be links like this, then do what you need to do.

[bothered]

It does look very nice and clean. In fact it looks like it's going to a wedding its so smart. Excellent work Dan, again.
I still have to post through advanced though or it crashes firefox.

[Leonardo]

I don't understand the problems with Firefox with some users. Mine is problem free. Are you all running v1.5?

[Shorty]

Im still working on the problem but I don't think I have a full fix but to disable the more nifty AJAX functions that make VB3.5 so much fun :(

Reason:

There is a clash between the AJAX javascript and the folding@home signatures javascript :bawling:

[Trogan]

Shorty, the smilie list is still in a mess. Sometimes they go off the screen.

Just so you know :)

[Shorty]

Shorty, the smilie list is still in a mess. Sometimes they go off the screen.

Just so you know :)
That is out of my hands, that's a VBulletin/FireFox/IE standards issue with CSS & Javascript :)

[Trogan]

Okay :)

[drasnor]

I'm having the same problem as FatCat uploading my normal avatar. It gives me the same error and everything. I'm using FireFox 1.0.7.

-drasnor :fold:

[Shorty]

I'm having the same problem as FatCat uploading my normal avatar. It gives me the same error and everything. I'm using FireFox 1.0.7.

-drasnor :fold:
Animated avatar problem is fixed :)

There is a new option in VBulletin regarding uploading animated pics. Didn't realise it was there, it's enabled now :)

[bothered]

I don't understand the problems with Firefox with some users. Mine is problem free. Are you all running v1.5?
1.0.7 here. I'll see about upgrading.
Edit, hang on, I just clicked post and it didn't crash?

[danball1976]

I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but in FireFox 1.5, clicking "Post Quick Reply" at the bottom will of course post, but the next page is nothing more than my F@H sig and thats it.

FireFox 1.0.7 would error out clicking on that.

[Shorty]

I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but in FireFox 1.5, clicking "Post Quick Reply" at the bottom will of course post, but the next page is nothing more than my F@H sig and thats it.

FireFox 1.0.7 would error out clicking on that.
Yep. Im aware of it but at the moment, I have no way of finding out how to fix it. The folding@home signatures clash with the VBulletin AJAX javascript that is used to not require a refresh of a thread to add the new post :(

I may have to disable that rather nice feature so that the problem goes away. It's worse with any FireFox pre 1.5. It causes those older versions to crash :(

[Shorty]

Ok...

I have disabled all the AJAX functions for the moment. Can all those with the FireFox problem tell me if you STILL get the problem or not...? Can you include your FireFox version as well please :)

[Trogan]

FF 1.5

Testing....


EDIT: No problem :)

[Donut]

Shorty, just getting ready to tell you it looks like you fixed it.
I'm running Firefox 1.0.7

I happened to forget to dis-able my sig while quick replying in another thread and it worked.

[Shorty]

Yep. So disabling the AJAX functionality stops the bug. I shall address this with VBulletin but I feel they are going to tell me hard luck. They don't support or encourage jscript in signatures, will just have to see :)

[danball1976]

Testing 1-2-3...

Also, I guess the in post editing was part of the AJAX script. I liked that part, oh well. Better to have compatibility than features.

[sfleuriet]

I liked that part, oh well. Better to have compatibility than features.
Man... I did too. Also I'd like to add when I click the [More] button for more smilies, I get this puny box that pops up. Is there any way to make it pop up as a much bigger box?

edit: yeah theres gotta be - just edit the link code?

[profdlp]

...when I click the [More] button for more smilies, I get this puny box that pops up. Is there any way to make it pop up as a much bigger box?...
I'm for that. Full screen would be fine with me, I always end up maximizing it anyway. :)

[Gargoyle]

Could we get the Short-Media.com link back on the link bar? I always used that as a shortcut to get the the folding page :D

[Lincoln]

Could we get the Short-Media.com link back on the link bar? I always used that as a shortcut to get the the folding page :D
Ditto that. :)

[Animal]

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=344647&postcount=22

is it only me who sees this mis-allignment??

[Necropolis]

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=344647&postcount=22

is it only me who sees this mis-allignment??

Looks fine for me

[Shorty]

Il take a look at the design :)

[sfleuriet]

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=344647&postcount=22

is it only me who sees this mis-allignment??
I don't see what you're talking about. My pages look just like that too..

[Animal]

I don't see what you're talking about. My pages look just like that too..

did you see the attached picture in the post that i linked to?

The view first unread and the thread tools bar is longer than the rest of the forum content. I presume that its not meant to be...

[Animal]

also if you click on view poll results things start to look a bit odd..

[Lincoln]

I'd just like to throw my two cents in: the new forum skin is uber hot! :cool:

[sfleuriet]

did you see the attached picture in the post that i linked to?

The view first unread and the thread tools bar is longer than the rest of the forum content. I presume that its not meant to be...
Mine's the same way, but doesn't look out of the ordinary to me at all. Attached screenshot.

[isiea]

I see lots of missing items! I can't live without my Short Media Bytes! where oh where are they?

neither can i....without short media bytes i think i'll go insane enough to go on 2800 baud dialup...lol um ok *sorry was i thinking too loud?*

[Leonardo]

Short-Media Bytes Archive (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2089&highlight=bytes)

[isiea]

Short-Media Bytes Archive (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2089&highlight=bytes)

thx, but i found it already :)