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godzilla525
30 Sep 2003, 2:33pm
http://www.hgst.com/portal/site/hgst/index.jsp?epi-content=GENERIC&folderPath=%252Fhgst%252Faboutus%252Fpress%252Finternal_news%252F&docName=20030826.html&beanID=736703123&viewID=content

If the link doesn't work just go into http://www.hgst.com manually and dig it up... it's from 8/26.

Hitachi is going to start making their HDD media in China. Layoffs will ensue.
Consider your data ****ed. :crazy:

(Currently my Travelstar head flying height has dropped to zero... a matter for another thread)

Shorty
30 Sep 2003, 2:34pm
Sorry, the content you attempted to access is not currently available.

:scratch:

Linkage not working bud :(

godzilla525
30 Sep 2003, 2:36pm
I just did a direct copy & paste of it... but it doesn't work for me either... (post edited with addition of main site link)

primesuspect
30 Sep 2003, 2:57pm
http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=102346477&fp=2&fpid=1

what's shocking about this? Union employees make six times what a typical chinese laborer makes. Now that those HDs are no longer made by an american company, once again the almighty $$$ rules. I'm not shocked at all.

Look, if GM/Ford/Daimler could get away with it, they would be making all of our cars in China too.

Mt_Goat
30 Sep 2003, 3:13pm
Look, if GM/Ford/Daimler could get away with it, they would be making all of our cars in China too.
But they do! Well it's not in China but they have switched to producing the parts and components in Mexico and various other countries. Look at the recent Levi Straus blue jeans closing their last American plant. Now most will come from places like Bangladesh and China.

RWB
30 Sep 2003, 4:27pm
mtgoat said
Look, if GM/Ford/Daimler could get away with it, they would be making all of our cars in China too.
But they do! Well it's not in China but they have switched to producing the parts and components in Mexico and various other countries. Look at the recent Levi Straus blue jeans closing their last American plant. Now most will come from places like Bangladesh and China.

Yeah I think you're partially correct, but that is more or less the minor parts like Rugs and Carpet stuff right? The actual manufacturing process is done here in the states.

Hawk
30 Sep 2003, 4:29pm
US is being sold out to other countrys. Period! All the big corps. see the dollars they could make by moving their manufaturing plants to other countries. I believe the EPA has alot to do with manufacturing leaving the country too. And YES, I am disturbed by this. I have been watching this happen for yrs and yrs. How about checking these companies for slave labor practices too. Of course the CEO's will get bigger bonuses after the move! And how do we stop our country from being sold out? Can anyone tell me? Just another log on the fire boys and girls.

Gobbles
30 Sep 2003, 4:33pm
If the US pulled its business out of all the other countries on the planet and started using only US labor, the world economy would colapse as the US economy would shoot straight up bringing with it higher prices, inflation and a host of other issues. All of which I can live with.. :D

kanezfan
30 Sep 2003, 4:40pm
they're shooting themselves in the foot, unless my economic ideas are way off. i mean if they move all their jobs overseas and americans are out of work and broke, then where do we get money to buy these products?

Gobbles
30 Sep 2003, 4:46pm
Thats a very good point.. but they dont care, they have blinders on, all they see is the bottom line... which says that if the US is not buying then someone somewhere else will...

:/

Mt_Goat
30 Sep 2003, 4:49pm
RWB said
mtgoat said
Look, if GM/Ford/Daimler could get away with it, they would be making all of our cars in China too.
But they do! Well it's not in China but they have switched to producing the parts and components in Mexico and various other countries. Look at the recent Levi Straus blue jeans closing their last American plant. Now most will come from places like Bangladesh and China.

Yeah I think you're partially correct, but that is more or less the minor parts like Rugs and Carpet stuff right? The actual manufacturing process is done here in the states.

NOPE!!!

Try Engines, starters, alternaters, exhaust components, frames for pick-ups and the list just goes on and on.. Just go to a new car lot and look at the sticker. I forget how long ago they were required to start but it lists the origin of the majority of components in that car or truck. Sure they might build Ford pick-ups in Kentucky and mid-size GM's in Michigan and Ohio but the parts are coming from elsewhere. And to make you think how cheap they are getting them you must realize that they have to pay a lot of freight charges to move all those parts to the U.S. assembly plants and they are still making a killing over when they were made here. :scratch: Ever wonder why Chevy and GM's newest largest plant for assembling pick-ups is in Texas??? In addition to lowere shipping costs Texas is what is known as a "Right to Work " state. Where unions are almost unheard of and people typically make a lot less than their counterparts in other states, mostly due to increased competion from workers who are not U.S. citizens that are living here with green cards in their pockets (a bunch don't even have those).

primesuspect
30 Sep 2003, 5:02pm
Detroit is the "supposed" manufacturing capital of the US, and I can tell you that most of the manufacturing that takes place here is prototyping and toolmaking. Major assembly for axles, transmissions, and mid-size sedans and light trucks is done here. Daimler has a major stamping plant here. But all I see, day in and day out, is trains coming into the assembly plants with car after car of parts that were made elsewhere.

godzilla525
30 Sep 2003, 5:34pm
http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/gmpow/lb8.htm

They've already started... True, it's just for Chinese markets, but I don't imagine it being too long before they start showing up here... although the Chinese 3500 V6 only makes almost as much HP as the US/CA/MEX 3100 V6...

(edit: my bad... 3500 = 3.0L, 3100 = 3.1L... the incredible shrinking product strikes again)

Incidentally, I'm majoring in EE right now, and I have no idea what kind of job I'll be able to get in a couple of years...

Looks like I wasted tens of thousands just to be rejected by Wal-Mart for being overqualified... :rant: