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So we were reading romeo and juliet in english in my 9th grade class and i started wondering who thought of making half-life and then who thought of makin the first video game ever (pong was it?)........ don't worry i have a 95% in english, i have a little room to chill. It's not like anyone else understood the story more than I did so.... only in america would millions of people be forced to read a story which not one of them can understand.... O Canada, O Canada :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag: :usflag:
Gargoyle
24 Feb 2006, 12:26am
What's not to understand about two star-crossed lovers?
Spoiler: they die. :wink:
Nightwolf
24 Feb 2006, 12:55am
I agree, what don't you understand about Romeo and Juliet? I read it in ninth grade too.
Missileman
24 Feb 2006, 3:28am
They require this in the hope that you will realize that there is history and culture in the world. Real life is not a video game.
And I was bored with it in 9th grade too.
Just had to throw out one of them Dad isms before somebody else did
:nudge:
I agree, what don't you understand about Romeo and Juliet? I read it in ninth grade too.
well it doesn't matter the teacher goes over everything, she pretty much tells the whole story over so i dont have to pay attention. anyway i had to memorize the prologue.....
Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair verona where we lay our scene,
from ancient grudge break to new mutiny
where civil blood makes civil hands unclean
from forth the fatal loins of these foes
two star-crossed lovers, take thier life
doth with thier death, bury thier parent's strife
in fearful passage of thier death-marked love
and the countinuance of thier parent's rage,
which, but thier children's end, naught could remove
is now the two hour traffic of our stage
(which, with patient ears if you shall attend) <<<<<not sure
what here shall miss, our toins shall strive to mend
wow i did better than i recited it in class. that sucs i missed a point !!!! noooooooooooo.... o and i didnt copy paste that, i actually typed that from memory (except the first line)
o ya and i dont really understand proper english. doesn't come in life enough. i can understand ghetto inglish ezily tho
leishi85
24 Feb 2006, 3:55am
wow, you are so cool, you recite it, can you be my idol??
bothered
24 Feb 2006, 7:56am
I have seen film versions of two Shakespeare plays, Othello and Taming of the shrew. Came across them both late at night (different nights) trying to find something to watch. I thought 'go on then, let's see what all the fuss is about'. Honestly, they were both brilliant. Understanding the language took some concentration but the actual stories were fantastic. I can see why his plays are still around. If you put the effort in it is worth watching but I don’t know if I could read one.
deicist
24 Feb 2006, 10:42am
o ya and i dont really understand proper english. doesn't come in life enough. i can understand ghetto inglish ezily tho
The language you speak and hear every day dictates the way you think... if you don't make the effort to speak 'proper' english or conform to some kind of grammatical rules then your thought processes will become just as sloppy and unfocused. That's why they teach this stuff in School, it's supposed to make you think about the language you use and how it compares / contrasts with the language used in Shakespeare's day. As for the stories themselves personally I think Shakespeare tends to be contrived, and relies too much on co-incidence and suspension of disbelief for my liking, but you can't deny the huge impact he had on western culture in general.
Gargoyle
24 Feb 2006, 3:41pm
o ya and i dont really understand proper english. doesn't come in life enough. i can understand ghetto inglish ezily tho
There's nothing necessarily "proper" about iambic pentameter. Start speaking like that around school, and you will almost certainly get beat up, and your milk money stolen.
And I'd argue you don't really understand ghetto English until you've studied the modern master: Ali G (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0284837/).
drasnor
24 Feb 2006, 7:15pm
I believe in obfuscating the meaning of my dialogue with a diverse array of technical diction from my voluminous lexicon.
-drasnor :fold:
The language you speak and hear every day dictates the way you think... if you don't make the effort to speak 'proper' english or conform to some kind of grammatical rules then your thought processes will become just as sloppy and unfocused. That's why they teach this stuff in School, it's supposed to make you think about the language you use and how it compares / contrasts with the language used in Shakespeare's day. As for the stories themselves personally I think Shakespeare tends to be contrived, and relies too much on co-incidence and suspension of disbelief for my liking, but you can't deny the huge impact he had on western culture in general.
I can speak FORMALLY, like complete sentences and such, but by proper English, I mean like how they use to talk in Shakspeare's day. I mean, you don't really go to your friend and say Hi, how shall thou be today or whatever, you're going to say, Yo what's up (By ghetto english, I didn't mean COMPTON english, I meant yo, and wats up and stuff. And I was kind of putting th emphasis on the Half-Life and game part of the thread, not really the English Class part, but :whatever: .
deicist
24 Feb 2006, 11:15pm
I know, I wasn't dissin' you G, I was just pointing out that studying Shakespeare is useful because you can see how English has evolved and changed over time, which in turn shows how languages change with use....it's an interesting concept, especially if you put any faith in the theory that our spoken language fundamentally influences our thought processes. At a basic level, if people a couple of hundred years ago spoke differently to how we do today does that mean they thought differently too? Also interesting is comparing a spoken language like english (or even ye olde english) to a language with a more specific aim, like C++ for example. Meh, I'm rambling now, but this sort of stuff is important. To me anyway :D
edit: I think some sort of space game came before pong, using a huge mainframe to produce a little triangle as a space ship flying around gravity vortexes... I can't remember what it's caled though
tmh88
24 Feb 2006, 11:18pm
I hate shakespeare in general. I had to take a semester class titled "shakespeare literature" and it was terrible. Everyday about shakespear...
I hate shakespeare in general. I had to take a semester class titled "shakespeare literature" and it was terrible. Everyday about shakespear...
i don't really hate shakespeare or any other litratture. just a little boring at times.
Shakespearean English isn't formal English. It's not Old English. It's just period English.
JChretien
8 Mar 2006, 8:05pm
lol i watched this film version of R&J back in gr 9.. was rather interesting, considering it featured a naked overdeveloped 14year old Juliet....
lol i watched this film version of R&J back in gr 9.. was rather interesting, considering it featured a naked overdeveloped 14year old Juliet....
we watched it, but we haven't gotten to that part yet, and i cant wait! :celebrate I dont think she's 14, more like 20
Nightwolf
8 Mar 2006, 9:58pm
In the book...shes a young girl around the age of 14!
Nightwolf
8 Mar 2006, 9:59pm
In the book...shes a young girl around the age of 14! He was making a joke.
In the book...shes a young girl around the age of 14! He was making a joke.
Ya when I said I didn't understand it, I meant the finer points. I know she was 14 in the book and in the movie, but I was saying that Olivia Hussey, who plays Juliet looks like she is 20-22 in the movie not 14.
airbornflght
11 Mar 2006, 6:35am
yeh, my 9th grade english teacher was a prude, she fast forwarded past the tities...thats the only reason i was awake, lol.
JChretien
17 Mar 2006, 7:18am
awwwww you missed the titties =/ too bad. I think we actually managed to pause it when we watched it :)
dragonV8
17 Mar 2006, 9:49am
yeh, my 9th grade english teacher was a prude, she fast forwarded past the tities...thats the only reason i was awake, lol.
Awww........that is sad. Can't have that, so here is something G( . )( . )D for you.:)
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