Don't judge a book by it's cover!

[muddocktor]

I just had one of the guys on the rig send me this document that he showed me and it was a real eye-opener. The article is on 2 people who most folks would classify as "wimps" or worse, going my what we know of them through their TV personality. The following is a cut-n-paste of the document on Captain Kangaroo and Mister Rogers:



Quite a few of us grew up with Captain Kangaroo. I
knew nothing of his background, only that his show was both entertaining,
educational, and as kids, we looked forward to it with great anticipation.

Captain Kangaroo turned 76 in 2002 (DOB: 6/27/27), which is
odd, because he's never looked a day under 76. It reminded me of
the following story.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Some people have been offended that Lee Marvin is
buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4-star generals at Arlington National
Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT.) and service (USMC).
Nothing else.

Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his
time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys?

Well, following is the amazing answer: In a time when
many Hollywood stars served their country in the Armed Forces, often in
rear-echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out
to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a
genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher
Naval award...the Medal of Honor.

If that is a surprising comment on the true character
of the man, he also credits his sergeant with an even greater show of
bravery.
While a guest onThe Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, Johnny Carson
said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in
the initial landing at Iwo Jima.....and that during the course of that action
you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah.....I got shot square in the butt and they gave
me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi.
Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys gettin' shot
hauling you down.

But Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever
knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his
Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb guy actually stood up on
Red Beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell
off the beach. That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends.

When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant
and he lit a smoke and passed it to me laying on my belly on the
litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?" I replied: Well Bob...if you make it
home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!

Johnny, I'm not lying... Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest
man I ever knew...Bob Keesham, you and the world know him as
Captain Kangaroo."
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On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who
just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another one of
those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to
our youth.

But Mr. Rogers was a U.S.Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam
with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He always wore a
long sleeve sweater on the show to cover the many tattoos on his
forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, he was
able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts
with his quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about
their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They earned
our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.

Amazing what we do not know about people

[muddocktor]

Heh, I just did a snopes.com check about the Mister Rogers part and it looks like BS. Heres a link: http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp

Fred Rogers served as a sniper or as a Navy Seal during the Vietnam War, with a large number of confirmed kills to his credit.
This same rumor has often been applied to boyish country singer-songwriter John Denver (among others), and it's just as false when told of Fred Rogers. Not only did Fred Rogers never serve in the military, there are no gaps in his career when he could conceivably have served in the military — he went straight into college after high school, he moved directly into TV work after graduating college, and his breaks from television work were devoted to attending the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary (he was ordained as a Presbyterian minister in 1963) and the University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Child Development. Moreover, Fred Rogers was born in 1928 and was therefore too old to have enlisted in the armed services by the time of America's military involvement in Vietnam.

Fred Rogers always wore long-sleeved shirts and sweaters on his show to conceal the tattoos on his arms he obtained while serving in the military.
As noted above, Fred Rogers never served in the military, and he bore no tattoos on his arms (or any other part of his body). He wore long-sleeved shirts and sweaters on his show to maintain an air of formality — although he was friendly with the children in his viewing audience and talked to them on their own level, he was most definitely an authority figure on a par with parents and teachers (he was Mister Rogers to them, after all, not Fred), and his choice of dress was intended to establish and foster that relationship.

[muddocktor]

Heh, I just shot down the other part of the article too, from snopes. Here's the link: http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp

Claim: Lee Marvin, actor, and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together at Iwo Jima.

Status: Multiple:
Actor Lee Marvin fought in the Pacific theater during World War II, received a Purple Heart, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery: True.

Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together in the battle for Iwo Jima: False. ...

Variations: A later version of this piece included a tacked-on a prologue about Lee Marvin's burial in Arlington National Cemetery:
Many people have always been a bit offended that Lee Marvin is buried in a grove of 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else.

I thought to myself, damn here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but did not know the extent of his Corps experiences. Including award of the Navy Cross. There is only one higher award...the Medal Of Honor.
Origins: The above-quoted bit of purported dialog from the Tonight Show does have some elements of truth to it, but although actor Lee Marvin was a guest on that late-night talk show at least seven times during Carson's tenure as host, most of what is reproduced above is an outright fiction or a transcript based on someone's badly flawed memory.

Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, his injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later in February 1945. Marvin also received a Purple Heart and was indeed interred at Arlington National Cemetery (but he was not, as some versions of this piece claim, awarded a Navy Cross).

Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but he did so too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, several months after the fighting at Iwo Jima. In a 1997 interview, Keeshan explained that he "enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb."


Hell, I guess I'm as bored here at the rig as Clutch is with his goofy cheese thread. ;D;D

[Kwitko]

If it's passed on by tons of people in an email, chances are it's bull@#$%. :D

[MrBill]

Hell, I guess I'm as bored here at the rig as Clutch is with his goofy cheese thread. ;D;D
Maybe someone should merge the two threads together. ;) :D

[Nomad]

I was about to post how none of that is true except for the fact Lee Marvin fought at Iwo Jima. He only earned a Purple Heart, not a Navy Cross.

[tmh88]

chuck norris can judge a book by its cover....sorry i couldnt pass up the opportunity

[Nightwolf]

chuck norris can judge a book by its cover....sorry i couldnt pass up the opportunity
Chuck Norris can also believe its not butter.

[tmh88]

I'm so sick of those chuck norris jokes, but I had to use it because i finally found perfect timing to use it. Theyre not good unless you add to a relevant comment

oh and btw chuck norris once slammed a revolving door.

[Nightwolf]

I'm so sick of those chuck norris jokes, but I had to use it because i finally found perfect timing to use it. Theyre not good unless you add to a relevant comment

oh and btw chuck norris once slammed a revolving door.
lmao, never heard that one.

[Camman]

and if you see Chuck Norris crying, he will grant you one wish. That is, if your wish is to die.

[tmh88]

muddocktor, im sorry that i made your thread go to crap. :-/

[muddocktor]

Hey it was a crap thread to start with. ;D;D

This is what happens when you are bored to tears I guess. :rockon:

[tmh88]

no it wasn't. You want to see crap, check out any of my threads in the pub. lol

[Nightwolf]

Chuck norris once started a forest fire while experimenting with water...

[tmh88]

and if you see Chuck Norris crying, he will grant you one wish. That is, if your wish is to die.


ok so i guess since this is just gonna go on.......


Chuck norris's tears cure cancer, too bad he never cries.

[Nightwolf]

Chuck Norris doesn't see dead people...he makes them dead!

[tmh88]

why dont we just have a chuck norris thread....god this stuff gets old, some of it is funny though.

[bikerboy]

you could put it in the joke thread.

bikerboy

[GHoosdum]

Here's a reason to use Folding instead of SETI@home:

SETI has not found intelligent life on other planets, because Chuck Norris already found them.

[Crazy Joe]

Rob, I like the one you made up about Chuck Norris and Timothy Treadwell... I think you should post it... LOL

[GHoosdum]

Erm, let's see if I can remember it:

Timothy Treadwell got eaten by a bear and all he got was a documentary made about him. Chuck Norris got eaten by a bear and got a new rug for his office...

[Crazy Joe]

Erm, let's see if I can remember it:

Timothy Treadwell got eaten by a bear and all he got was a documentary made about him. Chuck Norris got eaten by a bear and got a new rug for his office...

LOL :bigggrin: :D

[madmat]

Here's a reason to use Folding instead of SETI@home:

SETI has not found intelligent life on other planets, because Chuck Norris already found them.

And roundhouse kicked them to extinction!!