Am I in?

[bothered]

I decided to join the F@h team 93. When I go look at the team stats I'm not on the list. I've only been at it for 24 hours and haven't done a wu yet, is this why I'm not listed?

bothered.

[BDR]

Hey, bothered. Thanks for joining. :)

Yep, you have to turn a WU to be listed.

[bothered]

Great, Thanks.

bothered.

[BDR]

bothered, do you have F@H optimized for max performance?

[TBonZ]

Thanks bothered, welcome in. :)

There are some performance tricks which BDR is talking about, we'll get ya setup. :thumbsup:

[profdlp]

Glad to see you've joined up!

:thumbsup: :fold: :wave:

[QCH]

Welocome to the SM fold. Any bit helps Standford and our team.

[GnomeWizardd]

nice to have you here! Welcome to the fold!

[bothered]

I haven't optimised anything, just entered my name and team number.
Guide me guys, guide me.

bothered.

[TBonZ]

I take it you have the pretty graphical version with the drawed protein on the screen?

If so, folding will launch from your startup folder in START--->PROGRAMS

Inside should be the shortcut, all you need to do is add 2 things to the "Target" command line:

-advmethods -forceasm

So it might look like this:

c:\program files\folding\fah.exe -advmethods -forceasm

If there are quotes included, it should go like this:

"c:\program files\folding\fah.exe" -advmethods -forceasm

[TBonZ]

Also, right-clicking the folding icon down beside your time will open a menu, select "configure".

Make your options look like this:

[Gobbles]

Those flags, are they for AMD machines or both

Here is what I need...

Flags for a Duron processor
Flags for a P4 2.0 processor

might as well put my sisters machine to work... its a dd d d d d d d d eee o i just cant say it... it starts with a d and ends with an l

:D

Gobbles

[QCH]

dell... I have two of them folding. Very stable and never break. Can't overclock but they're not mine, they're for work.

Don't knock Dell. They're the best mass producer out there , IMHO.

[TBonZ]

Gobbles said
Those flags, are they for AMD machines or both

Here is what I need...

Flags for a Duron processor
Flags for a P4 2.0 processor

might as well put my sisters machine to work... its a dd d d d d d d d eee o i just cant say it... it starts with a d and ends with an l

:D

Gobbles

I'm not so sure the Duron is up to folding the gromacs because I don't believe it is a SSE compatible chip, I could be wrong however.

You should only have to use the -advmethods for the P4 but adding both shouldn't do any harm.

D & l, G & y, C & q, they all fold. ;D

[BDR]

dell... ;D

I can say it. ;D

[QCH]

"Dude, your sister's got a Dell" ("and I'm out of a job") Dell's spokesman.

[Gobbles]

just kiddin.. it actually a nice little system.. Slow as hell, being a p4 2.0 with 256 meg ram running xp.. Im talking her into upgrading the ram.. where I am poor, my sister is not.. Ill get that proc to work.. as for my duron, its a Duron 1gig and I think its a morgan core.. how do I tell? <-- Thrax please enlighten me...

Gobbles

[BDR]

This may help.

http://www.myplc.com/sony/sse_enabling_and_wcpuid.htm

[Geeky1]

*gag* Dell... EEEEEEEEEEWWW. I won't bash them for lack of overclockability, because that's not what they are intended to do. I will, however, bash them for:

- Using proprietary components
- Not being able to design a cooling system for a desktop

By not being able to design a cooling system, I mean that running F@H on a P3-600 OptiPlex GX110 Desktop made the CPU hot to the touch (no HW monitoring). 5 minutes with a piece of cardboard and I'd set up a duct that dropped system and CPU temperatures significantly (something like 10-20*F, judging by my calibrated, highly accurate right hand...) Or, as another example, the P3-3.0 or 3.2 or whatever it was that MaximumPC tested a few months back. Every time they benchmarked it without a "cooling down" period between runs, the benchmarks would get progressively slower. Why? Because the P4's clock throttling overheating protection circuit was slowing the CPU down to keep it from cooking itself. Like I said, Dell can't design a cooling system.

Dell... *shudder*

[BDR]

This may help too-

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=44520#post44520

[BDR]

Don't diss a machine that folds.

I'm on a Dell 1.4 P4 right now. I've had it for a couple years and it's been a very good machine, and I expect it to last me for quite some time yet.
It's my main machine to surf the net, do graphics, play music (I added a nice sound card) and it's folding right along with my AMD Athlons. That's more than I can say for the Duron or Tbird I have.
There's nothing wrong with having and using a Dell. :hrm:

[profdlp]

I would recommend Dell to anyone who refuses to (or can't) build their own. There is a reason they sell so many of them.
:wave:

[shwaip]

If the duron is a morgan, then go with both of the flags :). If it's a morgan, make sure you check out BDR's link

[bothered]

TBonZ
Did the second part no problem, but the first bit gave me this.

bothered.

[TBonZ]

Sorry, you need a space between "....exe" -advmethods...

Oh yeah, and restart the folding with the shortcut in your startup folder. :)

[QCH]

space between the "...winFAH.exe" and the -advmethods - forceasm

[bothered]

Wow you guys are quick. Did that and its gone in. Started with shortcut as you said.
Thanks guys.

bothered.

[mmonnin]

Yes a space. For any cpu you can run both commands. Its not going to hurt it. If it doesnt have SSE or 3dnow it simply will run with standard loops.

[TBonZ]

Np bothered, I'm happy you are contributing, thanks. :thumbup

[bothered]

Although the work it had already done seems have been lost. Will it just start again? or will it 'catch up' to where it was?

[bothered]

Ah ha, it seems to have caught up.
Thanks again.

bothered.

[profdlp]

...F@H it scans the integrity of the work already completed before it recommences Folding. For a minute or so it will show your progress at "0".

Great to have you on The Team!
:thumbsup: :fold:

[Mt_Goat]

bothered

Which Duron core do you have and were you able to do the mod provided by BDR?

Cool to have you folding! :thumbsup:

BTW
BDR,

That was a great link to a cool trick! :respect:

[BDR]

I can't take the credit. I just found it somewhere else when I was checking out my Duron's folding ability.

Unfortunately, mine is a Spitfire and it wouldn't work for me.

[Gobbles]

Im at work.. I gonna try it when I get home tonight, thats in 7 hours...

I got wcpuid... Ill post results if any are notable..

Gobbles

[bothered]

I haven't tried it yet but I will tomorrow. I'm running a 1.4GHz Athlon.

bothered.

[Leonardo]

dell... I have two of them folding

Yup, I've got two of 'em work also, both folding.

Geeky1, the newer Optiplexes are actually cooled very nicely - very good engineering. They have a 92mm, low RPM fan integral to a duct that sits directly over the CPU heatsink.

My two Optiplexes (1.6 P4) are VERY slow, but 100% reliable on Win2K SP3.

[Geeky1]

The optiplexes maybe, but their extreme gaming system things aren't. They've got a passive heatpipe cooler and a ducted case fan to cool it, and obviously that wasn't enough, because the one maximumpc has tested overheated repeatedly.

The school I go to switched some comps. to 1.6GHz P4/512MB PC133 OptiPlexes this summer, and you're right Leo- they're S-L-O-W A-S H-E-L-L.

[BDR]

You now have 1 less S-L-O-W A-S H-E-L-L dell folding for the team.



geeky1, what are you folding on?

[TBonZ]

BDR said
You now have 1 less S-L-O-W A-S H-E-L-L dell folding for the team.

You're not disbanding your dell because Geeky was ribbing them are you? If you do a little checking you'll see that geeky can go a little far from time to time but he means no harm so please don't let it bother you BDR. ;) :)

A folding machine is a Dell, a Gateway, a Compaq, an IBM as well as a custom built PC, if it can run the program, it definitely qualifies to do so. :)

[Geeky1]

You're not disbanding your dell because Geeky was ribbing them are you? If you do a little checking you'll see that geeky can go a little far from time to time but he means no harm so please don't let it bother you BDR.

LOL... I can (and do) go off the deep end on occasion. However, I have found that these OptiPlexes the school has are unbearably slow. Maybe it's because everything is networked (remote profiles, remote storage, etc.) but they're slow to the point of driving me nuts when I have to use them. And I only use them for my C programming class...

What do I fold on? Well, right now:

SVHFH:
5x AMD Athlon XP 1800+
1x P3-650
1x P3-600
1x Celeron 500

Under my S/N:

More-or-less all the time:
1.3GHz Celeron (which is being replaced by 2 1.4GHz P3-S CPUs when they come down to ~$100 each)

Whenever I can:
2.3GHz 1800+
2x 1.875GHz 2500s (will be 2.25GHz when I get around to modding them...)
2.4GHz P4

I have my computers in my room, and so they all get turned off at night (except the celeron print server). Also, since I can't sleep unless my room is <72*F (and it takes me forever to go to sleep if it's over 68*F) during the summer, I fold only on the Celeron and/or the P4. Now that it's cooling down, I'll start up the 1800 system, followed by the dual 2500 system (after I get the BIOS ROM replaced)

I suppose I COULD do something with the 3 unused AXP's and 4 unused Socket A boards I have sitting around, but I don't have the room for 3 more comps ATM...

[BDR]

I'll be folding under Angel_Heather for awhile.

[Spinner]

Bothered mate, waytogo! I actually thought you already folded, but I guess I was wrong...

..You know what's great now though, I have a wingman for folding in Manchester. Finally I am no longer alone.

:) :D ;) :p :thumbsup:

[bothered]

I used to fold at Icrontic for a while but thought it slowed my PC down. It seems to be doing that now, or is it just my imagination?
I tried BDRs tweak, no go. The option to turn on sse is grayed out.
We'll see how things go, Got the kids PC folding as well.

bothered.

[Jonsey]

If you're running the console client, I've never seen slowdown.

Running the "Graphical Newb" client I always get trouble : )