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V|P
17 May 2006, 2:23am
I always loved these little tid-bits of well useless facts, so I though I'd start a thread. I'll start us of with a few that I'm sure most of already know:

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A byte, as you all know is 8 bits. 4 bits is a nibble. So two nibbles=1 byte!

A cubic mile of fog is made up of less than a gallon of water.

A manned rocket reaches the moon in less time than it took a stagecoach to travel the length of England

Someone try this, it's hard to believe: Computer monitors in the Northern and Southern hemisphere are not interchangeable due to the differing polarities of the Earth's magnetic field

Men have nipples because at conception all fetuses are by default female, they only obtain their malenss later into pregnancy (We actualy talked about this Bio, and apparantly, theres a guy :range: taught himself to---um, well, make milk. . . .

The ashes of the metal magnesium are heavier than magnesium itself.

The Venus's flytrap can eat a whole cheeseburger. Anyone own a venus flytrap? Maybe put it on the uhh, Southe beach diet, or get it one of those ediet accounts... You don't know what it's been eating behind your back...

That's all for now. You guys can add some thoug... More later...

Nightwolf
17 May 2006, 2:32am
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A byte, as you all know is 8 bits. 4 bits is a nibble. So two nibbles=1 byte!
I'm pretty good with converstions and know them, but i've never come accross or had to use a nibble.

So I went and looked it up, and bam it was right there in wiki!

Armo
17 May 2006, 2:33am
A cubic mile of fog is made up of less than a gallon of water.


thats awesome, lol

Guyute
17 May 2006, 3:04am
the grizzly bear (U. a. horribilis) has no natural enemies in the wild. It can actually climb a tree using its powerful jaws to pull itself up.

the contact voltage of a typical industrial electrical shock is 20,000 to 63,000 volts, while a lightning strike delivers about 300,000 volts.

the visible "Lightning" flash actually travels from the ground up to the clouds, not down.

RADA
17 May 2006, 3:16am
The electric chair was invented by a dentist. And the first one was built partly by a prison inmate. He later died in it for murder. Self-:Pwned:

A lump of pure gold the size of a matchbox can be flattened into a sheet the size of a tennis court.

Dolly Parton once lost a Dolly Parton look-alike contest. :scratch: :skeptic:

The center of a super massive black hole is the size of a speck of dust. But, that speck of dust weighs 3 million times more than our sun. There was also an expired super nova that weighed one billion pounds per teaspoon.

RWB
17 May 2006, 3:32am
OMG That nipple thing has bothered me since I was born! WHY DO I HAVE NIPPLES?!!?! Now I now, I was once a female.

shwaip
17 May 2006, 3:48am
The ashes of the metal magnesium are heavier than magnesium itself.

That is true with anything that burns. You're adding oxygen, which has mass.

Leonardo
17 May 2006, 4:34am
A typical static electrical discharge (shock touching metal after walking on carpet) is anywhere from 3 or 4 thousand to 50,000 volts. Thank God the amperage is very low! :hair:

Now you know why an itty bitty shock can kill computer components.

Pure water will not conduct electricity. It's the suspended impurities that from a bridge of electrical conductors.

bothered
17 May 2006, 8:17am
I once owed a Venus Fly Trap and being right out of flies I gave it some burger, it died. Moral? Flies are healthier eating.

RADA
17 May 2006, 4:25pm
I once owed a Venus Fly Trap and being right out of flies I gave it some burger, it died.


bothered!!!! Did you give your Venus Fly Trap mad cow disease?


;D

TheSmJ
17 May 2006, 9:27pm
[B]

A cubic mile of fog is made up of less than a gallon of water.

Wouldn't that depend a lot on how dense the fog actually is?

[B]
Someone try this, it's hard to believe: Computer monitors in the Northern and Southern hemisphere are not interchangeable due to the differing polarities of the Earth's magnetic field

That's true for CRT-based monitors- until you degauss it. You're actually always supposed to degauss the monitor after every time you change it's position, especially if you change the direction it faces.

[B]
Men have nipples because at conception all fetuses are by default female, they only obtain their malenss later into pregnancy (We actualy talked about this Bio, and apparantly, theres a guy :range: taught himself to---um, well, make milk. . . .

I remember hearing that men have nipples because of the mother's increased levels of hormones in her system get passed on to the fetus through the umbilical (sp) cord, and that fetuses are in fact sexless up until the 6th month of gestation (more or less, I'm not positive). This is why some newborn boys can and do lactate right after being born.

[B]
The Venus's flytrap can eat a whole cheeseburger. Anyone own a venus flytrap? Maybe put it on the uhh, Southe beach diet, or get it one of those ediet accounts... You don't know what it's been eating behind your back...


I've never heard this before and I really doubt it's true given they are very delicate plants. I know some people who are expert carnivorous plant keepers though so I'll ask them anyways.

tmh88
17 May 2006, 11:02pm
I'm pretty sure about the men have nipples thing SMj, I remember learning about that in biology

Guyute
18 May 2006, 3:18am
Actually it gets worse, tmh88- we also start with vaginas. After a little while the vulva close over and fuse, hence the ridge if skin in the perineum.

more facts (I don't find these useless- I could sit in a circle and listen to them all night...):

Due to its ferocity, The Halifax Explosion was studied by Oppenheimer to judge nuclear yields (I live about 1.5 miles from ground zero)

On the way home from buying his McLaren F1, for which he paid $1 million, Jay Leno passed one in his neighbor's driveway. He was stunned.

bothered
18 May 2006, 8:48am
This is one I like to throw out from time to time.

There is no such thing as vertical parallel lines

TheSmJ
18 May 2006, 11:28am
This is one I like to throw out from time to time.

There is no such thing as vertical parallel lines

How is that?

These are two parallel lines:

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They have the same slope, and are vertical. Therefore they will never intersect.

bothered
18 May 2006, 11:41am
Ah, here we go.
Take a plumb line and hold it up. It will be vertical IE, point to the center of the Earth, that's what vertical is. Now take another plumb line and hold it up in a differant place, it too will be vertical but the bottom of the plumb lines would eventually meet, IE, they cannot be both vertical AND parallel. They are one or the other.

shwaip
18 May 2006, 1:21pm
We've discussed this.

bothered
18 May 2006, 2:18pm
This is one I like to throw out from time to time.

There is no such thing as vertical parallel lines
I know, but it likes an airing.

shwaip
18 May 2006, 2:47pm
Ok.

Like theSMJ suggested, the existance of parallel vertical lines depends on your definition of vertical.

def 1 (bothered): Vertical = perpendicular to the ground, or pointing towards the center of the earth -> no parallel lines

def 2 (theSMJ, me): Vertical = perpendicular to a base line -> parallel lines


both are in the dictionary -> the statement that "no vertical parallel lines exist" = false.

madmat
18 May 2006, 3:32pm
The term "Rare as hen's teeth" is not a falsehood. When chickens are hatched they have a tooth on the ends of their beaks called an "egg tooth" which typically falls off shortly after escaping the egg.

V|P
19 May 2006, 12:33am
Dolly Parton once lost a Dolly Parton look-alike contest. :scratch: :skeptic: [QUOTE]
So did Charlie Chaplin.....

[QUOTE=RADA]The center of a super massive black hole is the size of a speck of dust. But, that speck of dust weighs 3 million times more than our sun. There was also an expired super nova that weighed one billion pounds per teaspoon.
Actually it is not the size of a speck of dust, it is infinitly small. It's so small that the laws of quantum mechanics break down at the even horizon, and the singularity contains no nuetrons, protons, or electrons.... :ninja: BTW, I'm doing my thinkquest website on this topic so I've done my research, and I know what I'm talking about. :rolleyes2

V|P
19 May 2006, 12:37am
There is no such thing as vertical parallel lines
Can you explain? :scratch: :confused2

EDIT: NVM :p

bothered
19 May 2006, 8:01am
Despite the above NVM I will try to dig my self out of a small hole anyway.
In resonce to Swaips reply.
Vertical may be defined in a dictionary as 'Vertical = perpendicular to a base line -> parallel lines' but it doesn't say the base line is horizontal? So, if I have a base line at a 45 degree angle then any perpendicular lines off that would be vertical? methinks not. The vertical walls on a house built on a hill would be set according to a plumb line or spirit level, IE, vertical but not parallel. I think the second definition is for parallel lines not vertical.

shwaip
19 May 2006, 2:10pm
All I need to do to prove the statement "No vertical lines are parallel" is false is to find one case in which they are (Hooray for the ability to disprove by example). I'm saying that I have a base line that is horizontal, and straight:


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Now, in this one case, two lines which are perpendicular to the base line above will be parallel.

bothered
19 May 2006, 2:24pm
All I need to do to prove the statement "No vertical lines are parallel" is false is to find one case in which they are (Hooray for the ability to disprove by example). I'm saying that I have a base line that is horizontal, and straight. Now, in this one case, two lines which are perpendicular to the base line above will be parallel.
Ah but, horizontal means the bubble in a spirit level is centered, say your horizontal base line is 24,000 miles long, it is a circle. Any lines vertical to this base line cannot be parallel. Horizontal isn't straight, horizontal is curved. Although the differances may be minute vertical and parallel cannot exist anymore than horizontal and straight can.

shwaip
19 May 2006, 3:18pm
Ah but, horizontal means the bubble in a spirit level is centered, say your horizontal base line is 24,000 miles long, it is a circle. Any lines vertical to this base line cannot be parallel. Horizontal isn't straight, horizontal is curved. Although the differances may be minute vertical and parallel cannot exist anymore than horizontal and straight can.


You're talking non-euclidean geometry. Elliptic, specifically.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Noneuclid.png

You're also constraining yourself to lines on earth, physical lines.

Why does my line have to be on the surface of the earth? Let's make it tangent to the earth...or just out there in space. Now, these may or may not be realizable lines, but then again, I'd like to see you draw your lines as they should be: infinitely long and one dimensional.

If I take your level, and assume that it is perfectly straight, and use this level as a base line. Now, if I take two carpenter's squares (assume they're exactly 90*) and place them on the level. Project the levels to infinity. Not along the earth, but straight along the segment that the levels represent. Those lines are perpendicular to a base line. That makes them both vertical. They are also parallel by definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Parallel_lines.png

bothered
19 May 2006, 3:36pm
Ah but again, vertical and horizontal only apply in the presence of gravity. The definition of vertical as I understand it is - Perpendicular to the horizon; upright. Parallel lines are, as you say, perpendicular to a base line but hoizontal comes from horizon. A base line in space (or any other line) is simply a line, it's neither horizontal or vertical.

madmat
19 May 2006, 3:45pm
Bothered, your thinking is fataly flawed. Take a sheet of plywood (or MDF if you like) stand it on end and what do you have? The edges of the wood create perfectly (on a sheet that's in square) vertical parallel lines. Hence, incorrect thought process.

Correct statement is "There's no such thing as parallel plumb lines"...

shwaip
19 May 2006, 3:46pm
Define horizontal.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 3:59pm
you kids... a Line is a line... does it matter if it meets, I mean what would the 2 lines say if they did meet?
"Hi I am a line nice to meet you."

shwaip
19 May 2006, 4:01pm
you kids... a Line is a line... does it matter if it meets, I mean what would the 2 lines say if they did meet?
"Hi I am a line nice to meet you."

Ati and nvidia are the same to me.

jradmin
19 May 2006, 4:02pm
Which came first...the chicken or the egg?

Ponder on that, then get back to me!

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 4:02pm
wow that came out of right field...

shwaip
19 May 2006, 4:03pm
god created both at the same time.

discuss.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 4:06pm
god created both at the same time.

discuss.

Your killing me smalls,

So when God created the Tree and the Leaf all was finished.... until he created Man...

madmat
19 May 2006, 4:08pm
The egg came first, no brainer. Consider this, the chicken is a mutation of the gamecock, the gamecock lays an egg and a chicken emerges. Simplistic way of looking at evolution but still valid...everything started as something else, yes there had to be a first but in the case of chickens, that would be....the egg.

jradmin
19 May 2006, 4:09pm
:thumbsdow

jradmin
19 May 2006, 4:12pm
The egg came first, no brainer. Consider this, the chicken is a mutation of the gamecock, the gamecock lays an egg and a chicken emerges. Simplistic way of looking at evolution but still valid...everything started as something else, yes there had to be a first but in the case of chickens, that would be....the egg.


In my opinion, most of the evolution doctrine was turned to crap when they found out humans didn't evolve from neaderthals.

shwaip
19 May 2006, 4:15pm
What if he put them at the opposit ends of the garden? And if he didn't...did the egg hatch into a Rooster? Does that mean they where inbreeds? How come if Adam, Eve, and Seth were the only other humans...Cain married a woman out of the land of Nod?

Contemplate!

because it's all bs.

madmat
19 May 2006, 4:22pm
In my opinion, most of the evolution doctrine was turned to crap when they found out humans didn't evolve from neaderthals.

Yeah, it's all hogwash, we actually woke up here like in the book River World and have been frantically scrabbling to make crap up as we go along.

So what if we didn't evolve from the neandethal? Who says they were the only hominds that evolved? Chances are we both evolved along separate lines of parallel evolution. Neanderthals evolved from ape X and homo sapiens evolved from ape Y, We were just smart enough to wipe out the competition.

We've been doing it ever since almost instinctively so it'd make sense.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 4:46pm
because it's all bs.

It is so easy to think that... now your just BS'ing yourself.

shwaip
19 May 2006, 4:55pm
Prove to me scientifically that god exists. You can't. To me, that means there's no way he does. I'm an engineer. That's how my mind works.

For the record:

My ati/nvidia comment was made because you were dismissing an argument you didn't care about by posting something random. I disagreed, and thought that you should have just not bothered. I figured I'd find something that you have an opinion on, and see if it'd bother you.

My "god created them" comment was directed at jradmin for pretty much the same reason. We're talking about interesting/weird/useless facts (and debating the existance of parallel vertical lines) in a thread that's meant to be that way. He was posting some bs about chicken/egg.


I'm being a bastard because I'm tired because I was up late watching house be a bastard.

deicist
19 May 2006, 5:01pm
In my opinion, most of the evolution doctrine was turned to crap when they found out humans didn't evolve from neaderthals.

Evolution isn't a doctorine, no matter what anti-evolutionists keep saying, it's a theory. And like all theories it's subject to change as new evidence comes to light. That's one of the fundamental principles of science, theories change all the time as new evidence is found. All the advances we've made in the last few hundred years have been because of that scientific method, so it offends me that people think that something like evolution is 'turned to crap' because new evidence is unearthed.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 5:02pm
Prove to me scientifically that god exists. You can't. To me, that means there's no way he does. I'm an engineer. That's how my mind works.

Prove to me Science is anything other than Theories! So even if I did prove to your scientifically how would that solve anything? As it would be a theory… To base your life on Science is setting yourself for failure & let downs...


My ati/nvidia comment was made because you were dismissing an argument you didn't care about by posting something random. I disagreed, and thought that you should have just not bothered. I figured I'd find something that you have an opinion on, and see if it'd bother you.

If i am not mistaken the title of this thread is "Interesting, Weird, and Useless " Hmm that was the focus of my post... and a topic of Nvidia and ATI is not even something close that bothers me, as I know it is an opinionated subject that will never see an end…as long as the companies and people who buy there products live.

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:04pm
Bothered, your thinking is fataly flawed. Take a sheet of plywood (or MDF if you like) stand it on end and what do you have? The edges of the wood create perfectly (on a sheet that's in square) vertical parallel lines. Hence, incorrect thought process.

Correct statement is "There's no such thing as parallel plumb lines"...
I stand by my original statement-Vertical parallel lines do not exist. A definition of vertical from http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vertical states -
vertical
1. The set of directions that are perpendicular with the surface of the Earth.
IE, perpendicular to the horizontal, which is curved. Take your sheet of ply but imagine it is 1,000 miles thick, are both ends still vertical? no, but they are parallel.
I think my thinking is spot on. :)

deicist
19 May 2006, 5:07pm
I stand by my original statement-Vertical parallel lines do not exist. A definition of vertical from http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vertical states -
vertical
1. The set of directions that are perpendicular with the surface of the Earth.
IE, perpendicular to the horizontal, which is curved. Take your sheet of ply but imagine it is 1,000 miles thick, are both ends still vertical? no, but they are parallel.
I think my thinking is spot on. :)

the surface of the earth isn't a sphere though, what if you found a section of the earths surface that was flat even though in general the surface is curved?

profdlp
19 May 2006, 5:07pm
Interesting: We are here (except for you solipsistic types, maybe), regardless of the causation.

Weird: We are here (except for you solipsistic types, maybe), regardless of the causation.

Useless: Arguing Creationism vs. Evolution

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 5:09pm
Useless: Arguing Creationism vs. Evolution

Not entirely Useless... I think taking ATIisum vs. Nvidiaisum would be better suited...

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:13pm
the surface of the earth isn't a sphere though, what if you found a section of the earths surface that was flat even though in general the surface is curved?
Nice one :), It would make no differance because vertical still points to the center. If the world was absolutely covered in vertical lines it would look like a pin cushion but none of them would be parallel.

madmat
19 May 2006, 5:14pm
I stand by my original statement-Vertical parallel lines do not exist. A definition of vertical from http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vertical states -
vertical
1. The set of directions that are perpendicular with the surface of the Earth.
IE, perpendicular to the horizontal, which is curved. Take your sheet of ply but imagine it is 1,000 miles thick, are both ends still vertical? no, but they are parallel.
I think my thinking is spot on. :)


Place that 1000mi sheet of ply on the bottom of the Nile river (which incedentally is the flattest natural place on earth) so that the long end is parallel to the earth and stand it on end and the edges will be perpendicular to the earth and both vertical and parallel.

Sorry, you can't win, if something is standing upright it's perpendicular to the earth.

profdlp
19 May 2006, 5:18pm
...if something is standing upright it's perpendicular to the earth.
That's not what she said! :vimp:

Guys, you're all playing the definition game here. Since both of those terms have multiple definitions, I'd have to say that you are all equally correct - and all equally wrong.

I'm going to declare myself the winner and beat a hasty retreat now. :hiding:

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:20pm
Place that 1000mi sheet of ply on the bottom of the Nile river (which incedentally is the flattest natural place on earth) so that the long end is parallel to the earth and stand it on end and the edges will be perpendicular to the earth and both vertical and parallel.

Sorry, you can't win, if something is standing upright it's perpendicular to the earth.
Imagine a circle drawn on a piece of paper. Put a dot in the center and draw lines from that dot extending outside the circle. The circle can be as rough as you like with flat bits and hollows. Are any of these lines parallel? A 3D version of this model is what I am talking about, vertical parallel lines.

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:25pm
That's not what she said! :vimp:

Guys, you're all playing the definition game here. Since both of those terms have multiple definitions, I'd have to say that you are all equally correct - and all equally wrong.

I'm going to declare myself the winner and beat a hasty retreat now. :hiding:
It does this every time I bring this up (which is mainly why I do it really :)) Only a bit of fun though prof, a bit of banter if you will, I mean, it doesn't even matter.

madmat
19 May 2006, 5:25pm
Set a rectangle on that sphere, the lines of that rectangle will be parallel and vertical. Denying either of these is just bullheadedness.

deicist
19 May 2006, 5:26pm
Just to add to this, does that mean there's no such thing as a vertical line once you are outside the gravity well of the earth? For example on the moon. Or does vertical still refer to a line pointing to the centre of the earth?

profdlp
19 May 2006, 5:27pm
Whenever I find myself embroiled in a science discussion, I generally look to the classic philosophers for the answer.

I think Blondie (http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Parallel-Lines-lyrics-Blondie/FBA9343B8169BC3148256E4E000881F3) put it best:

The lines I have written that you read between
The lines on the pages
The lines on the screen
Of lines spoken - I say what I mean.
It's parallel lines that will never meet.

Ship in the desert
Ships in the night
Ships that pass in the night.

Evangeline stream - Evangeline's dream,
It's parallel lines that will never meet.

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:30pm
But, imagine the rectangle was the same width as the sphere, would the ends be vertical? not according to a plumb line or spirit level or any other definition of vertical.

Like I said before, vertical is only relavant under the influance of gravity so would apply just the same on the moon.

jradmin
19 May 2006, 5:32pm
WE ARE THE WORLD!!!! WE ARE THE CHILDREN!!!!

now everyone hug!

bothered
19 May 2006, 5:33pm
Whenever I find myself embroiled in a science discussion, I generally look to the classic philosophers for the answer.

I think Blondie (http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Parallel-Lines-lyrics-Blondie/FBA9343B8169BC3148256E4E000881F3) put it best:
;D ;D ;D
Point taken prof.

deicist
19 May 2006, 5:34pm
ah ha, I was hoping you'd say that :D

what if you setup a gravitational mass such that it's pull wasn't like a point mass, but like a plane? then two 'vertical' (ie: pointing straight down towards this plane of gravitational attraction) lines could be parallel no?

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 5:39pm
Here a model to fuel the fire...

deicist
19 May 2006, 5:41pm
Here a model to fuel the fire...

None of those lines point towards the centre of gravitational attraction though, and thus don't fit Bothered's definitions.

here's my useless factoid: Sharks can't stop swimming for too long or they suffocate and die.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 5:49pm
Even Better,

Break the world into a grid, as you can see the points will meet in one place or 2 if you look at both ends. but in reality these lines are only parallel with themselves. But the box shows it is parallel with the X axis of the center of the earth.

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 5:59pm
Okay if you look at the image, if you have the earth and lets say it is perfectly round. if you offset the lines from the north pole in an array that follows the contour of the earth, none of the lines would be parallel. only the horizonal lines that would connect both ends of the lines would be parellel, but even than the ends would never meet as you have created a zero plane. that the line will follow forever.

am I coming way out of left field here?

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:02pm
Ati and nvidia are the same to me.
No ATI and nVidia have never met. If they did it would be like one drug dealer crossing over into another drug dealer's territory; you'de get a straight up war. :whatever: :wow2:

deicist
19 May 2006, 6:04pm
That's a good illustration Sledge but what about if the centre of gravitational attraction is not a point mass but a plane? Then any lines perpendicular to that plane would be Vertical by the definition so far and also parallel. Admittedly this is a purely hypothetical situation but hey, it makes for interesting discussion :)

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 6:06pm
No ATI and nVidia have never met. If they did it would be like one drug dealer crossing over into another drug dealer's territory; you'de get a straight up war. :whatever: :wow2:

We all know my side would win....

That's a good illustration Sledge but what about if the centre of gravitational attraction is not a point mass but a plane? Then any lines perpendicular to that plane would be Vertical by the definition so far and also parallel. Admittedly this is a purely hypothetical situation but hey, it makes for interesting discussion :)

Okay now my head hurts!

profdlp
19 May 2006, 6:06pm
You can take all the hunks of wood you want and stand them up any way you please, but mathematically you are describing an object made of line segments - not lines. (Prof can play the definition game, too. :vimp: )

A line, again - by definition, extends infinitely in each direction. Then there is the ray, which has a fixed point at one end and extends infinitely in one direction. Both of these objects will eventually wrap around the universe and goose themselves in the ass, becoming a ring. (This explains why Euclid and Einstein aren't allowed to sit next to each other at the dinner table up (over? around? out?) in heaven.)

My dad taught High School math for over fifty years. As you might imagine, after a half-century in the classroom he is kind of beat up and worn out by now. Don't make me rouse him from his rocking chair and drag him over here to take you all to task. ;D

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:07pm
Ah but again, vertical and horizontal only apply in the presence of gravity. The definition of vertical as I understand it is - Perpendicular to the horizon; upright. Parallel lines are, as you say, perpendicular to a base line but hoizontal comes from horizon. A base line in space (or any other line) is simply a line, it's neither horizontal or vertical.
Wow, I never thought of that. It's true though, if you think about it. What if you were in a remote region of space, where gravity had little effect, because the distance of the closest body of matter was over the region it's gravity actually affected. If you put a straight line there, wether it be 1D or 2D, it couldn;t be vertical or horizontal. For it to be either, you'd HAVE to compare it to SOMETHING, wether it be horizon or :whatever:; because you have nothing to compare it to, it is niether horizontal, nor vertical. Dammit, I forgot what I was trying to prove.... :confused: :crazy:

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 6:09pm
Wow, I never thought of that. It's true though, if you think about it. What if you were in a remote region of space, where gravity had little effect, because the distance of the closest body of matter was over the region it's gravity actually affected. If you put a straight line there, wether it be 1D or 2D, it couldn;t be vertical or horizontal. For it to be either, you'd HAVE to compare it to SOMETHING, wether it be horizon or :whatever:; because you have nothing to compare it to, it is niether horizontal, nor vertical. Dammit, I forgot what I was trying to prove.... :confused: :crazy:

If that was fact the line would be on a unparallel 0 axis. with no way to prove anything.

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:11pm
I really didn't mean for this thread to go in this direction ------- but no one's complaining!

EDIT: PHYSICS = More fun than Chemistry.... :ninja:

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 6:12pm
a line, again - by definition, extends infinitely in each direction. Then there is the ray, which has a fixed point at one end and extends infinitely in one direction. Both of these objects will eventually wrap around the universe and goose themselves in the ass, becoming a ring. (This explains why Euclid and Einstein aren't allowed to sit next to each other at the dinner table up (over? around? out?) in heaven.)

Once again going into theroy that Space has an end or that it even wraps around. Until it can be proven this thoery must be cast aside.

profdlp
19 May 2006, 6:16pm
...Until it can be proven this theory must be cast aside.
Not at all. A theory can be a useful tool to use while on the way to the truth. No more, usually, but certainly no less. :)

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 6:17pm
I'm thinking less is more in this case. lol

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:18pm
Once again going into theroy that Space has an end or that it even wraps around. Until it can be proven this thoery must be cast aside.
If you believe in the Big Banf theory, then Space is forever expanding; therefore, no end to it. If you believe it is curved, then wormholes, and whiteholes must exist, and we haven't detected either yet, and if the theory is even remotly correct, whiteholes should be fairly easy to spot, easier than black holes, since they spit things out at incredible speeds. Personally, I believe in the multiple universe theory, and the Big Bang....

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:19pm
Until it can be proven this thoery must be cast aside.
Amazingly, I just saw a show on the science channel (no, its actually interesting okay) about einstien's life, and they said most theories are proven using other theories....:bigggrin:

deicist
19 May 2006, 6:20pm
Not at all. A theory can be a useful tool to use while on the way to the truth. No more, usually, but certainly no less. :)

According to the scientific method everything is a theory, nothing can ever be 'proven' since at any point more evidence may come to light which disproves your theory. Even things which we take for granted like gravity and electromagnetic propogation are described only by theories. Now there's an interesting and weird fact (back on topic) :)

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:21pm
Ok, one of the mods, please change the name of the thread and let people prepare to talk about, well,-----lines.....

profdlp
19 May 2006, 6:37pm
Interesting, Weird, and Useless, all in one:

In the 1550's, the Earl of Oxford, Edward de Vere, embarrassingly left to travel for seven years because he had accidently farted when he had bowed down to Queen Elizabeth I. When he returned the Queen said to him, "My Lord, I had forgot the fart."

If these folks (http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/History/more3.html) can be believed, anyway. :eek3:

bothered
19 May 2006, 6:42pm
In the 1550's, the Earl of Oxford, Edward de Vere, embarrassingly left to travel for seven years because he had accidently farted when he had bowed down to Queen Elizabeth I.
Yeah, some do linger huh?

V|P
19 May 2006, 6:43pm
Interesting, Weird, and Useless, all in one:



If these folks (http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/History/more3.html) can be believed, anyway. :eek3:


Nooooo, melike line talking....

profdlp
19 May 2006, 6:59pm
Yeah, some do linger huh?
;D ;D ;D

If true, this episode in the 1500's no doubt spurred the development of the electric fan a few centuries hence. :vimp:

V|P
19 May 2006, 7:24pm
sticky

Sledgehammer70
19 May 2006, 8:52pm
I don't think so.... it has to be pretty important to make the top on The PUB....

airbornflght
19 May 2006, 9:41pm
This is one I like to throw out from time to time.

There is no such thing as vertical parallel lines


well, that depends on your point of origin and your definition of vertical. If you are in space and you define a 3 dimensional grid, the yes you can have it. on earth? no not realy.

V|P
19 May 2006, 9:56pm
well, that depends on your point of origin and your definition of vertical. If you are in space and you define a 3 dimensional grid, the yes you can have it. on earth? no not realy.
I think we covered that 3 pages ago.... :doh:

Nightwolf
19 May 2006, 9:57pm
Prove to me Science is anything other than Theories!

Science isn't proven, its supported.

bothered
19 May 2006, 10:35pm
well, that depends on your point of origin and your definition of vertical. If you are in space and you define a 3 dimensional grid, the yes you can have it. on earth? no not realy.
In space no one can hear you scream.

V|P
19 May 2006, 11:02pm
In space no one can hear you scream.
...because there's no air to carry the sound waves? :scratch:

Esso
19 May 2006, 11:27pm
sticky
The fool who persists in his folly will become wise.

William Blake (http://www.online-literature.com/blake/)

It was true then, and its true now

RWB
19 May 2006, 11:42pm
You are all nuts.

V|P
19 May 2006, 11:44pm
You are all nuts.
Who's you?

Esso
20 May 2006, 12:16am
You are all nuts.
Leave William Blake out of this :ukflag:
His been dead since 1827.

profdlp
20 May 2006, 12:45am
Leave William Blake out of this :ukflag:
His been dead since 1827.
Yeah, but it does say that his dad was a hoser... :canflag:

:hiding:

Esso
20 May 2006, 1:16am
Yeah, but it does say that his dad was a hoser... :canflag:

I didn't know that you had knowledge of Williams father :respect:

Hoser, you say, ( which kind of these hose description will define Williams father (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoser) ? )

My greate Norstedts English-Swedish dictonary lexicon did not have this word "hose", in it. :-/
When out of clues, google will(iam) save me. :sweflag:


Edit,
Everyday I learn something new, like the day I found SM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoser

tmh88
20 May 2006, 2:10am
So when did this turn into the bitchfest from the interesting fact thread?

sorry ive been gone for a while, been busy with school and work

V|P
20 May 2006, 3:28am
So when did this turn into the bitchfest.... blah blah blah....sorry blah blah blah, been busy with school and work

What a bitch. So school and work is now more important than me. :rarr:

Crazy Joe
20 May 2006, 8:58am
Men have nipples because at conception all fetuses are by default female, they only obtain their malenss later into pregnancy (We actualy talked about this Bio, and apparantly, theres a guy :range: taught himself to---um, well, make milk. . .

Yep, we all start out as females... Only the truely lucky evolve into males... :clap:

bothered
20 May 2006, 9:33am
Yep, we all start out as females... Only the truely lucky evolve into males... :clap:
So the lucky get to do all the hard dirty jobs and the unlucky get to say "sure you can take a photo of these, that'll be £500 please" or "I think I prefered the other wall paper better". The unlucky ones get to rule the lucky ones? The only function my nipples have is to form the eyes of a rather funny comedy face.

V|P
20 May 2006, 4:21pm
So the lucky get to do all the hard dirty jobs and the unlucky get to say "sure you can take a photo of these, that'll be £500 please" or "I think I prefered the other wall paper better". The unlucky ones get to rule the lucky ones? The only function my nipples have is to form the eyes of a rather funny comedy face.
;D

profdlp
20 May 2006, 5:08pm
...The only function my nipples have is to form the eyes of a rather funny comedy face.
You are not alone... (http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/mmannion/tag/nonsense/) :wtf:

V|P
20 May 2006, 10:44pm
You are not alone... (http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/mmannion/tag/nonsense/) :wtf:
hmmm... Me wonders how you fell upon that article..... :wtf:

airbornflght
21 May 2006, 12:37am
dont ask, dont tell. probably best for all of us.

bothered
21 May 2006, 1:07pm
Prof has a, erm, very, erm,,, varied set of interests.

profdlp
21 May 2006, 4:03pm
I like to stay abreast of things. :range:

V|P
23 May 2006, 10:23pm
I have 536,870,937,500 nibbles, or .0000000000002220446052988981 yottabytes of space on my HDD. Beat that!

V|P
23 May 2006, 10:28pm
I am 483,643,753 seconds old.

V|P
31 May 2006, 2:42am
A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.

Average life span of a major league baseball: 7 pitches.

Nutmeg is extremely poisonous if injected intravenously. (who wants to try this one?)

There is an average of 178 sesame seeds on a McDonald's Big Mac bun. ( I volunteer to test this one!)

The 3 most valuable brand names on earth: Marlboro, Coca-Cola,
and Budweiser, in that order. (I don't get what they mean by "valuable")

When Heinz ketchup leaves the bottle, it travels at a rate of 25 miles per
year. (Finally, I've been waiting to find that out all my life. Now I must go kill myself because I have no purpose anymore)

On average, 100 people choke to death on ballpoint pens every year. (No Comment)

In 10 minutes, a hurricane releases more energy than all the world's
nuclear weapons combined.

Elephants can't jump (Gee, I wonder Why...). Every other mammal can.

According to one study, 24% of lawns have some sort of lawn ornament
in their yard. (who funds these studies?)

Clans of long ago that wanted to get rid of their unwanted people without killing them used to burn their houses down - hence the expression "to get fired."

Leonardo
31 May 2006, 5:40am
A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.If a duck quacks in the forest, will anyone hear it?
Nutmeg is extremely poisonous if injected intravenously. What I want to know is who the idiot was who one day decided to up and inject nutmeg as an experiment.
The 3 most valuable brand names on earth: Marlboro, Coca-Cola,
and Budweiser, in that order. Marlboro, yeah, it's everywhere. Misery loves company, I guess. Budweiser? Well, valuabe in North America. The rest of the world would probably think it's dishwater or funny tasting lemonade.
When Heinz ketchup leaves the bottle, it travels at a rate of 25 miles per year. Whoa, I don't know about that. Seems like half the time I've made ketchup "leave" the bottle it's been damn near supersonic, ricocheting off the dinner plate and decorating all furniture and walls within 50 feet!
On average, 100 people choke to death on ballpoint pens every year. It's definitely time for BallPoint Pen Control! "If it saves one life..."
Elephants can't jump Well, at least white elephants can't jump.
According to one study, 24% of lawns have some sort of lawn ornament
in their yard. (who funds these studies?) University of Arkansas.
Clans of long ago that wanted to get rid of their unwanted people without killing them used to burn their houses down - hence the expression "to get fired." Oh my! Now that's what I call community spirit. :-/

Nightwolf
31 May 2006, 5:52am
Thats great Leo.

bothered
31 May 2006, 8:00am
A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.
Oh yes it does. The moment it leaves the Ducks bill it ceases to be a quack and just becomes another set of pressure waves that behave like all the other sets of pressure waves trying to get your attention.

Thrax
31 May 2006, 8:21am
A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.

Yes it does. The only SHRED of information that even remotely supports this is the fact that a duck's quack has a similar frequency profile to an echo. A duck, however, echoes just fine.

The 3 most valuable brand names on earth: Marlboro, Coca-Cola,
and Budweiser, in that order. (I don't get what they mean by "valuable")

The brand is as valuable as the product. It's the image the product represents.. The popularity it is thought to generate. For example, Coca-Cola in Japan is synonymous with a gregarious, out-going, refined taste. Despite the "Gaijin" mentality of Japan, it is popular and even trendy to emulate superficial elements of the United States. Coca-Cola is a huge name, and it doesn't matter what the name gets stuck on.

On average, 100 people choke to death on ballpoint pens every year. (No Comment)

Good. Hopefully my clamorings for people to choke on their pen and die will go heeded. :grr:

As for the whole nutmeg thing... Nutmeg in mild amounts is great-tasting, and is used in a variety of recipes including the known elements of the fabled Coca-Cola syrup. However, when ingested in large doeses (1 or more grams), it has similar effects to large doses of marijuana (Lethargy, mental disconnection/sluggishness, a mellow feeling) or (In some cases) a similar effect to ecstasy. The "Unfortunate" thing about Nutmeg is that the high doesn't start for six hours, and doesn't stop for three days. I'm sure some cracked-out drug-fiend popped a few grams of nutmeg, loved the high, and thought he could get a better one by injecting it.

God bless the 70s.

Jengo
1 Jun 2006, 5:53am
nice job crapping on scars thread guys... sheesh... You bunch'a dorks! ;)


In Redondo Beach, Calif., a police officer arrested a driver after a short chase and charged him with drunk driving. Officer Joseph Fonteno's suspicions were aroused when he saw the white Mazda MX-7 rolling down Pacific Coast Highway with half of a traffic-light pole, including the lights, lying across its hood. The driver had hit the pole on a median strip and simply kept driving. According to Fonteno, when the driver was asked about the pole, he said, "It came with the car when I bought it."

Lawsuits filed by California inmates cost the taxpayers more than $25 million in 1994.

A reward of $1,000 was offered for information leading to the capture and conviction of a man robbing taxi drivers. The man turned himself in and demanded the reward as a result. He received a 20 year sentence for aggravated robbery instead.

A judge in Louisville decided a jury went "a little bit too far" in recommending a sentence of 5,005 years for a man who was convicted of five robberies and a kidnapping. The judge reduced the sentence to 1,001 years.

In South Africa, termites are often roasted and eaten by the handful, like pretzels or popcorn.

The short-term memory capacity for most people is between five and nine items or digits. This is one reason that phone numbers were kept to seven digits for so long.

profdlp
1 Jun 2006, 4:22pm
nice job crapping on scars thread guys... sheesh... You bunch'a dorks! ;) ...
We are NOT dorks. :mad:

We are "dumb ass jerks" (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46565). ;D

Prof's Interesting, Weird, and Useless fact for the day. :mullet:

Sledgehammer70
1 Jun 2006, 4:49pm
Moo!

V|P
1 Jun 2006, 10:10pm
We are NOT dorks. :mad:

We are "dumb ass jerks" (http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46565). ;D

Prof's Interesting, Weird, and Useless fact for the day. :mullet:
Okay Prof why don't you just put the link in your sig if you're going to put it in every post! :bigggrin:

V|P
1 Jun 2006, 10:14pm
Beach, Calif., a police officer arrested a driver after a short chase and charged him with drunk driving. Officer Joseph Fonteno's suspicions were aroused when he saw the white Mazda MX-7 rolling down Pacific Coast Highway with half of a traffic-light pole, including the lights, lying across its hood. The driver had hit the pole on a median strip and simply kept driving. According to Fonteno, when the driver was asked about the pole, he said, "It came with the car when I bought it."[/I]
Suspicions were aroused? What the hell kind of cop is that?

Cop 1: Hey, Bill check that guy out. He's got a traffic pole on his car!
Cop 2: Relax Joe, That's the new 2006 Acura. You never need to stop at a traffic light again!
Cop 1: Oh well then, that's okay. I just thought for a second that he was a bad driver or something.

Thrax
1 Jun 2006, 11:00pm
In the unitary constitutional monarchy of Japan, lights stop for you!

profdlp
1 Jun 2006, 11:42pm
Okay Prof why don't you just put the link in your sig if you're going to put it in every post! :bigggrin:
I may have to, unless I get a few more votes. :shakehead

V|P
3 Jun 2006, 3:57am
You can't sneeze in your sleep. (How do they know?)

Native Americans all have type O blood. (100% Native Americans)

There is a city called Rome on every continent.

"Spheno Palatine Gangleoneuralgia" is the technical term for an ice cream headache. (Imagine yourself as a kid saying that to your parents)

Bottled water costs about 1,000 times more than tap water. (lol...)

You cannot lose a contact lens in the back of your head. (Well that's a little comforting)

The average speed of a man's orgasm is 28 MPH. (This is even worse then the ketchup bottle one. HAHAHAHAHA)

There are no fish living in the Dead Sea. (Ya think?)

The largest kidney stone weighed 14 pounds. (How much did the kidney way?)

It is illegal to lick toads in Arizona. (Which idiot actually sits down to find these laws. And the idiot writing the laws is even more of a "dumb ass (http://short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46565)")

An average ball point pen can write a line 2 miles (3.2 km) long. (1.9 FYI)

It is not possible to fold a piece of paper in half more than seven times. (I've tried, and it's not possible for me, but couldn't they like build a super strong machine that could probably do it?)

The Empire State Building bas 6,400 windows. (That's why theres so much traffic. Those idiots are stopping to count the windows...)

That's all folks!

MountainDew
3 Jun 2006, 6:02am
It is not possible to fold a piece of paper in half more than seven times. (I've tried, and it's not possible for me, but couldn't they like build a super strong machine that could probably do it?)


this (http://www.sciencenewsforkids.org/pages/puzzlezone/muse/muse0704.asp) girl got 12 folds. as for the machine, i think its more the strength of the paper than the strength of the folder.

Nightwolf
3 Jun 2006, 4:50pm
There is a city called Rome on every continent.


It is illegal to lick toads in Arizona. (Which idiot actually sits down to find these laws. And the idiot writing the laws is even more of a "dumb ass (http://short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46565)")

That's all folks!
Even Antartica?

Because there are species of toads that when intimidated secrete a substance from glands behind their eyes that makes you hallucinate.

TheSmJ
3 Jun 2006, 9:46pm
Because there are species of toads that when intimidated secrete a substance from glands behind their eyes that makes you hallucinate.


I've read that it's actually an urban legend - the whole toad licking thing. There aren't any species of toads that you could lick and begin hallucinating.

airbornflght
3 Jun 2006, 11:12pm
Nope, not an urban myth or legend. Its true. although, there are better ways to hallucenate, I dont really enjoy the thought of licking a toad, hell if some dude 100 times bigger than me picked me up and started licking me, I might start secreting hallucinogens too. But yeh, ever hear of the Peyote Cactus?

profdlp
3 Jun 2006, 11:29pm
There are so many things I would like to say right now, but I can't.

I just can't... :cool:

Mt_Goat
4 Jun 2006, 1:25am
A byte, as you all know is 8 bits. 4 bits is a nibble. So two nibbles=1 byte!
So that means a byte is equal to 1 buck and a nibble will cost you $0.50.
A cubic mile of fog is made up of less than a gallon of water.
I bet no one ever tried this with "Ice Fog" (http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF13/1319.html).
A manned rocket reaches the moon in less time than it took a stagecoach to travel the length of England
And the trips to the Moon have been more successful than the stagecoages!
Men have nipples because at conception all fetuses are by default female, they only obtain their malenss later into pregnancy (We actualy talked about this Bio, and apparantly, theres a guy taught himself to---um, well, make milk. . . .
Men have nipples because it would just plain look to weird without them. ....as for the guy milking himself.........that's just too weird! :shakehead
The ashes of the metal magnesium are heavier than magnesium itself.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. No magnesium in your diet and you will loose your lust. (You probably won't be able to milk yourself either.)
The Venus's flytrap can eat a whole cheeseburger. Anyone own a venus flytrap? Maybe put it on the uhh, Southe beach diet, or get it one of those ediet accounts... You don't know what it's been eating behind your back...
The flytrap won't need a diet as it will no doubt be squashed by the weight of the burger.

V|P
4 Jun 2006, 1:33am
nice job crapping on scars thread guys... sheesh... You bunch'a dorks! ;)
Now I' begining to think this is true. Do I look like a toilet? or an outhouse? or a hole in the ground?

Mt_Goat
4 Jun 2006, 1:57am
Now I' begining to think this is true. Do I look like a toilet? or an outhouse? or a hole in the ground?
Oh so tempting. And what a lead for trashing. I mean it's like the Holland tunnel. ;)

Nightwolf
4 Jun 2006, 3:05am
But yeh, ever hear of the Peyote Cactus?
Good luck getting ahold of Peyote!

airbornflght
4 Jun 2006, 7:23am
Have any native american friends? heh heh heh.

bothered
4 Jun 2006, 8:00am
Now I' begining to think this is true. Do I look like a toilet? or an outhouse? or a hole in the ground?
No idea, post a pic. ;)

V|P
4 Jun 2006, 10:18pm
No idea, post a pic. ;)
:bigggrin:

bothered
5 Jun 2006, 11:21am
Well now that you mention it there is slight resemblance. How old were you when that pic was taken?

V|P
5 Jun 2006, 7:49pm
Well now that you mention it there is slight resemblance. How old were you when that pic was taken?
Oh, that's my birth pic. Can't you tell, I'm so shiny.