Fast cars

[Esso]

Tracey Chapman - fast car.

Ferrari Enzo (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/18556/Top_Gear_Review_Ferrari_Enzo.html) | pictures. (http://images.google.se/images?q=Ferrari+Enzo&hl=sv&hs=bqB&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title)

The car that is faster, is the Bugatti Vayron (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/13541/Bugatti_Vayron.html) (0-100 KM/h in 2.5 sec) Information (http://www.bugatti-cars.de/bugatti/flash/index.html?langString=en)


In Sweden we have ghosts and everything, that can haunt you.
But if you really would like to know something about the swedish traffic situation, look no futher
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-781163969053975339

[Esso]

Cars are like motorbikes with balance supporting wheels ... :tongue:
Here is some videos from Stockholm traffic jam ..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-781163969053975339
http://www.streetracersonline.com/videos/ghostrider/

[Guyute]

Saw a clip on CNN where a guy in California stole an Enzo and completely shredded it in a highway crash. Wouldn't that just peeve you a TAD- come out of the grocery store with a fanny pack full of groceries for the "trunk" and your $550K car is gone. Guess you'd have to go but a Carrera GT or sumpin'. I think they said he was suspected of stealing other ones, too.

[Esso]

Yes I read about him too, because he is Swedish .....
I hope they gonna teach him some manners in jail.

[Guyute]

Imagine the insurance adjuster reading through the day's claims...
$1,353
$11,976
$4,400
$550,000
$6,300..hey wait...something twigged.
WHAT!!!! $550,000!

[airbornflght]

how did that bike not easily outrun that m3? bikes are so much quicker. I wouldnt mind driving that enzo, although, after the cops caught me, I have a feeling that I wouldnt be driving for a while. Would be cool if I could get away, it would be no sweat to outrun the cars, but outruning the radio would be a little harder. Although, loosing cops in a town is easier than on a highway, in town almost all streets are laid out as a grid, so if there is only one or two cops chasing you, not to hard to play a little cat and mouse and loose them, especially if your friend lives nearby with an empty garage ready to go ;)

[Thrax]

You've been playing too much GTA.

[Clutch]

I have only ran from the cops once in my life. It was almost dark and I was coming out of town a litte fast for town speeds. So right before I got out of town I passed a cop and he hit his brakes, popped the lights on and I put that pony in the wind. I had to pass three cars coming up on a curve but I didn't stop until I parked in my driveway and he was nowhere to be found.

Would I run from the cops again..hell yeah tickets suck :)

[airbornflght]

Yeh, I'd run from the cops, if I had a fast enough car, my grand am...heh, they would probably laugh and let me go because they felt sorry for me. Now, if I had a fast car, and I knew I could loose em, hell yeh, Id be gone.

[airbornflght]

You've been playing too much GTA.

No, just fantasizing about fast cars that I cant have right now, actually, I'm tired of every little asshat blaming crap on GTA or Need For Speed.:werr:

[Nightwolf]

You've been playing too much GTA.
Damn straight, i've never ran from the cops as I drive a 1979 Ford F150. I have a freind who did on a Ducati (not into bikes, don't know the model), we were "racing" to the theatres and I was in the passengers seat of my friends Cooper S, cop flashed his lights and went after the bike, he ran a good 3 miles and then...just stopped!?!? The cop wasn't even close to him and he just pulls over and stops like it was no big deal, he doesn't get to look at his parents bikes anymore.

[Guyute]

Nightwolf,

I am not really into bikes either, but I saw a review of a Ducati on a TV show and they said it was nuckin' futs. If I recall, only 1 or 2 bikes from the top 10 of the race just finished was NOT a Ducati.

I'd rather buy a guitar than a bike. I enjoy speed too much, and the roads here in Halifax are starting to resemble a cluster-bomb testing range. Least I can't kill myself with a PRS.

[bikerboy]

Yeh, I'd run from the cops, if I had a fast enough car, my grand am...heh, they would probably laugh and let me go because they felt sorry for me. Now, if I had a fast car, and I knew I could loose em, hell yeh, Id be gone.

dont need an extremeyl fast car to run from them. i was in my f150 doing like 85 coming home from a friends house and passed a cop that was sitting along the road. first thing i did was smash the pedal to the floor and took the next exit and then got right back on the highway going the other way. passed the cop going a different direction then i took the back roads home and pulled in my yard behind my house to hide the truck. simple as that. loose em before they call back-up...

I would do it again in a heart beat.

bikerboy

[Clutch]

Yeah, you don't need a fast car. I ran from that cop in my first Mustang which was a v6. She wasn't fast, but she felt the speed that night, lol. But fast cars make the flee a little more exciting I guess.

[airbornflght]

yeh..I am pretty sure that I would have been pulled over a few times, in enid at least, a cop will laser your ass, then follow you for a few blocks while he is calling you in, then pull you over. A few times cops have been parked aside the road and then come onto the road to tail me, luckily Ive always noticed them, sped up and pulled my ass off the road and do my favorite thing, hide in the nearest large parking lot for a few minutes and leave.

Never had any problems on the highway, although, it is oklahoma, which means flat straight highways, on the highways you can see for miles, and no where for cops to hide really. So I visit my friend in oklahoma city quite often, and I usually make my way there doing 90-100 (p.o.s. car is governed to 110...) lord help me the day a cop gets me. Really, I dont see the problem with driving fast, its such a waste of time to go the speed limit. What gets me going is when i come accross someone that is doing like 40 on a highway that the speed limit is 70 or 75...come on people. I think driving on the highway is easier than in town. Just slow down on the corners and know your car. But im sure if they raised/eliminated the speed limit, there would be idiots that take corners at 100 in tiny ass cars (civics/ricers) with crappy tires(need I say more) with the wind blowing 40 mph...all the while the fart canon exhuast is blowing like a fog horn while their car is rolling accross the highway...what a sight to see, ignorance at its finest.

[Gargoyle]

I don't have a problem with people speeding on the highway, so long as they use their turn signals when they change lanes. People have a lot less time to figure out what other drivers are doing when they're speeding, and a simple thing like not signalling can cause an accident pretty easily.

And running from the cops is stupid. Getting caught once running from the cops could be worse than getting nailed with speeding tickets several times, depending on local laws. Plus, you're going to be speeding more in order to get away, which means if you're caught, it's a bigger ticket, and you're more likely to crash when you're preoccupied with getting away. Yeah yeah, you're young and invincible and all that, it won't happen to you...

[Nightwolf]

But im sure if they raised/eliminated the speed limit, there would be idiots that take corners at 100 in tiny ass cars (civics/ricers) with crappy tires(need I say more) with the wind blowing 40 mph...all the while the fart canon exhuast is blowing like a fog horn while their car is rolling accross the highway...what a sight to see, ignorance at its finest.
Whats your big problem with imports? I'd like to see you keep up with my brothers DA.

[bikerboy]

Yeah yeah, you're young and invincible and all that...

i dont think im invincible by any means...the only way i would run from a cop is if i knew that i had a 75% chance of getting away. and when i am trying to get away i keep it under 95.

bikerboy

[bikerboy]

Whats your big problem with imports? I'd like to see you keep up with my brothers DA.

i dont think he hates imports...i think he hates ricers. there is a big difference between the two.

ricers are usually just a 4banger with a coffee can exhaust. no real performance mods to it. just lowered and a big ass wing in the back to give you traction for your front wheel drive car. usually take out their back seat to lose weight but then they but a 75lbs stereo system in it. not really a fast car by any means.

Imports are any car that isnt american made. they can range from a mini-van to a civic that is stock. Import is a very loose term.

bikerboy

[bikerboy]

this sums it up...

Note: A few of you may find some of the language in here a bit offensive. I assure you that it is significantly cleaner than anything you would hear while walking around a normal high school campus. However, you have been warned.



You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has
horsepower.

You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear
wheels.

Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.

17" rims up front, 13" out
back on your FWD.

You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your
car.

You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in
order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual
transmission

DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking
for.

Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO
steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.

A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your
custom paint scheme.

Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install
the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well
going in from the side.

The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service
under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...

Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more
than 1".

Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.

You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get
them to stick out past the fender.

You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children
and clowns are driving them.

You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to
compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.

Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on
the rear...

Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative
camber, the better the handling."

You push your car through the staging lanes. That way,
maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.

You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of
aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear
seat for weight savings.

Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake
light...

The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod
work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.

You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground.
Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!

You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a
parking lot.

You install clear corner and brake lights.

You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.

You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted
it on the first speed bump you went over.

You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match

If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.

You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!

If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod
you’ve done to your engine yet.

Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race
and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.

EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits
worth of boost.

You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a
stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang

You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a
turbocharger system.

You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in
the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.

The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in
the 1/4mile.

If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler
than your car does.

You think the Del Sol is a sports car...

A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.

You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance

If you think that horsepower is far more important than
torque

If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has
given you more than 5 HP.

If you have ever considered installing more than one set of
fog / driving lights.

If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you
just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.

Your baseball cap is always on backwards when
you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).

You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company
that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...

If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP
of the door / window frame.

If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.

MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.

Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.

Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for
each cylinder!")

The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and
rods in other people's eyes.

If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects
create a plow effect.

If you have installed driving lights to compensate for
headlight blackouts / tape.

If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are
impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.

If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not
point out if asked where those parts are installed.

You think pushrods are a bad thing…

Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.

Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your
1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.

You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for
weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.

If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you
will never take to the track…

You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that
everytime you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.

You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim
runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.

If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP
without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.

You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.

If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance"
went hand in hand

If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and
asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...

If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R"
stickers to your Sonata…

If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your
springs by cutting them yourself ...

If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...

You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar
...

You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.

You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted
them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling. Badly.

You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.

You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary
engined Mazda RX-7)

You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment

You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior
in performance to V8s.

If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at
WOT.

You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool

You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler
with the weld marks extremely visible

If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers

If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators

You have a front wing.

If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the
stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers

If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a
Weed Eater™

If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate
dual exhaust is cool

If you think colored head lights work better

Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for
a REASON!

If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod
to it

You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires,
and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch

You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in
the car.

You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat
him.

You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car
is an automatic.

You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..

Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you
after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.

after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and
fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.

Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your
"driving skills".

you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat
turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm
sayin? Relate."

Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your
head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to
where the gun is almost sideways ...

drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and
still live with your parents.

You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For
A White Guy" by the Offspring

you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your
car.. small, tight and hard to get into."



… And the Number One reason you might be a ricer if...

(drum roll)....you are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants
leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy *** with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment


bikerboy

[airbornflght]

Whats your big problem with imports? I'd like to see you keep up with my brothers DA.


I have nothing against imports/tuner cars. Let me tell you what I do have a problem with, ricers. Which I've noticed, are tuners cars that have been bastardized. I actually read a lot of import tuner magazines, I like the cars, they are small light and fast, whats not to like, its like a slot car without the slot.

But let me tell you what though, 70% or better of the people that buy the cars that want them to be fast think they are fast in their stock state. No... You have to do quite a bit of engine work to make them fast (excluding the $40k+ imports, im talking civics, crx's, and celicas) Lets take my friend. He has a '00 Civic Si, not a bad car, and the work he has done on it doesnt even look THAT bad, but he has put side skirts on it, 18" chrome rims, and painted the a pillars flourescent orange, put a fart canon exhaust on it. At least he has done one performance upgrade on it, a CAI, If you can even call it that. Now, he probably has the most respectable civics up there.

Okay, lets take the idiot of idiots that owns a civic at my school. He has a fart canon exhuast, and a 6" Tach with a shift light on his dash....nothing else, unless you count the stage 1 weight reduction he has done to it, which equates to some "light weight" donut wheels (the solid steel ones , missing back seat.) yet he has at least 100 lbs of amps/subs in his car.:range: And back to the tach, he has a tach built into his gauge cluster that works fine, I asked him why he put it on there and he said it makes him faster and he knows when to shift, he pays no attention to the shift light, The only thing that huge tach is doing is letting me see how hard he is pushing that engine just to get to 35. he goes way above the powerband, just so his car will be loud(annoying), and you know what he told me, he said that my car would never be fast without the fart cannon on there...I started laughing, cause if my car will be a manual Si, then it will easily beat his pos Ex. He said that his car would smoke mine, I offered to race, he declined, he knows he will get beat. And I even tried to be nice and tell him that the fart cannon was actually robbing him of horse power, he wont listen and said it was giving him like 20 more hp, I told him he was getting hp and db mixed up again, and that if he wanted to do something for the exhuast, he should invest in a hi-flow cat back system. he got pissed.

The others are much worse, I think ricer is a diseased state of mentality They cares are all show and no performance, The ricer disease has even spread to a domestic at the high school, this guy owns a cavalier that you might confuse with a honda with some serious body work., complete with a 2' whale tail.

Like I said, I have nothing wrong with people that work to make their cars faster, and do some body work or interior work. I could even care less if you only do body and interior mods to make your ride look nice for shows and such, but please dont claim that it is fast and souped up just because your exhaust pipe is big enough for me to fist.

I actually raced an eclipse (i have a hard time keeping up with my friends stock rs), that I thought was a total pos and I would beat easily, well, can you say sleeper, He laid on the gas about the same time I did, but all the sudden I heard a turbo spool up, and blow off, and I thought to myself, "yep, I'm screwed". Needless to say he had me smoked. And my friends Si even has the jump on me through first gear, but soon as I shift down to second I quickly pull ahead.

I've just made a huge post, but oh well, long story short, I dont have a problem with imports, I have a problem with the people that drive ricers, because usually, they have a huge ego/sds problem and they over estimate what their car is capable of doing/handling and are usually very irresponsible in the way they drive, Saw a guy driving a crx in one lane, changed lanes so fast without even looking that the suv behind it had to slam on her brakes to not run his ass over. I think she should have smashed that little clown car and take one more ricer off of the streets.

I may drive fast, and you may say that is irresponsible, but I sure as hell am aware of the people around me and self conscious of my car and the way it is handling. For instance, if there is a 40mph crosswind on the highwar, are you going to try and do 100+mph down the road, assumming you dont drive a car with superior road holding. And corners are worse, Ive seen cars take corners at speeds I wouldnt even think of being as how tight they were. They dont put speed recomendations on corners for no reason. And I dont know how many dirt roads their are around where you live, but enid is mostly a rural town (the outskirts) and kids like to get in their cars and trucks and go do 50-70 down the roads when they dont know how to drive on them really. I was in a friends mustang, and he was doing about 60 down a road with quite a bit of sand on it. I was fine until he reached down to pick up his remote, his car started fishtailing and I told him to slow down or let me out. Cause just in the past 3 or so months, i htink 7 people have died on the dirt roads. They see people driving fast on those roads, but those people have been driving them for years, me for instance, Ive been driving the roads since I've been twelve in pickups, tractors, and grain trucks. Trust me, first time I drove on the road I was scared and only doing about 30, it about 4 or 5 months just to get comfortable going much faster. Now, I go out to the farm doing 60-70 all the time now, but there are places that I wont go above 50, just because of the ammount of sand on the road, you can loose it so quick, and if there is someone/something in the road, forget about stopping an any short ammount of time unless you want to go sliding down the road.


What was I talking about again? I think I just moved from ricers, to high speed driving to the driving of dirt roads, see what happens when you push the right buttons on me, I tend to loose focus and jump from one related topic to another. okay, I promise, this is the final sentance that I will write (for now).

I do not have a problem with imports or tuners I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RICERS AND the STUPID PEOPLE/idiots that drive them.

[airbornflght]

ah bikerboy, a man after my own heart. I have seen a four banger with quad exhuast, I almost had to pull over I was laughing so hard. Not anyway related to idiocy so much as ignorance, but you cant blame him, when my friend first got his si, he was showing me it, and I commented on the Inline 4 banger, and he said it was a v-6....I gave him a funny look and tried to politely tell him that it was only an inline 4, I tried multiple methods to show him this. I showed him the distributor, with only 4 wires coming out, I showed him where the spark plugs went in, only 4, he still didnt believe me, so I continued to show him the intake and exhaust manifolds. He pretty much called me an idiot and said he was gonna ask his dad, so at that point I was like **** you, so I go home and ask him the next day what engine his dad said was in it. He replied "An Inline 4 Cylinder" I told him he wasnt loud enough and I couldnt here him, he flipped me off. Not to mention he couldnt drive the car when he got it. See, his parents have a stingray vette, which he could (sorta) drive, He let me drive the vette, and it was the easiest manual Ive ever driven, the clutch was easy and the engine forgiving with all of the hp and torque, and I showed him how to shift quicker, but for some reason, he had problems getting it out of 2nd...dont ask me, he could get it going no sweat, which for me is the hardest part (which still is very easy). Now when he got this civic, he stalled it 3 times before getting it to go. I finally told him to let me in the driver seat and Id see If I could get it driving. I have to admin, I killed it twice too, I finally figured out that the powerband in that thing is between 2500 - 6500 or so, So I had to goose up the throttle to around 1800 to be able and let off the clutch reasonably quickly. after that it wasnt so bad, except fot the anoying exhaust tone. Although, I did have to get used to givign it more gas and shifting quicker. Im glad to say that now he is actually pretty good at driving it. His shifts could still be quicker when he is trying to be fast.

One morning he wanted to spin the tires for some reason, I tried before to get him to do it or let me do it, and he wouldnt, because his tires for the 18" rims are low profi and EXPENSIVE!!, but anyway, he tries to spin the tires, and the first few times he almost stalled the engine or just squeled them. Finally, I convinced him to rev it up to 7k and dump the clutch, they spun, but not very far, which is sort of good, he can launch faster at a race.

The only thing that pisses me off about him is that he has a huge ego/sds problem ever since he got this car. He used to be really cool, when he drove the safari van, then he got a stock civic ex, and he was still cool, but he totaled it after being t-boned (wasnt his fault) then he bought this car from a girl at the air force base, ever since he acts like his car is superior to anyone elses. I finaly convinces him to race me, he kept saying, I'll smoke you..I kept saying, okay, you'll beat me, I want to see how much faster your car is than mine. All the while I was pretty sure I could at least keep up with him. So we get out on a highway 10 minutes before school starts, and we launch, I though he was gonna toast my ass while I was in first gear, but then my car shifted and I started pulling away, shifted agian to third and at this point we were doing 65ish, I waved by to him as I few by. Ever since he hasnt called my car slow, but he still says its a pos, which I tell him its not, (even though I sort of agree with him, but you gotta have some pride) I just think its kind of ugly. One thing though, he wont admit that we ever raced or that my car is faster. like I said, ego.

[Nightwolf]

My brother didn't "rice" our his car, just made it to be fully JDM. He has a '92 Integra DA, other that the body mods which include a front lip, clear corner headlights, side marker lights, JDM thin side molding, and tint job (feel like i'm forgeting something), hes lowered it 3", TEIN coils, i think Addco anti-sway bars, new control arms, new bushings, DC upper and lower strut bars, front camber kit. As for performance, its running a B18A1, aluminum flywheel, some clutchmasters clutch, AEM short throw shifter, full port and polish, new forged pistons, skunk2 cams, MSD ignition system, Holley throttle body,HKS turbo manifold, HKS turbo (don't know model), HKS blowoff valve, Greddy wastegate, Apexi Intercooler and custom piping, and running a Thermal exhaust system. I know i'm forgetting things.....but whatever, you get the point. His whole car club are full of thos "ricers" of which you talk about, with extremely large fart cannons, and body kits/spoilers, but they have performance requirments.

[airbornflght]

I didnt say or imply that your brother riced his car out. Im just saying that a large percentage of the people that own/buy an import do. But, rice is not limited to imports. I have seen far to many domestics with wings taller than the car itself.

oh yes, time for a Public Service Anouncement:


This PSA has been brought to you by the Persons Against Ricers:

PLESE STOP DOMESTIC ABUSE by saying no to all of the following: aluminium spoilers, large chrome exhaust, APC and NOS stickers, engulfing vinyl, hyperwhites, cut springs, stock black hoods on other color cars, steelies, $hit body kits that dont flow. We own domestic, lets act like it!

And actually, with the modlist going on with your brothers car, I wouldnt mind seeing what its capable of, had it dynoed? Hopefully you understand my point of view, I have nothing against tuner cars, just ricers. As you may or may not know (made a thread), I was thinking of buying a 300zx, but decided I couldnt afford to do the mods I wanted, the engine was gonna be the first thing that I attacked, then the tranny.

I sometimes relate ricers to mac customers, they both feel that their greatly inferior equipment is indeed superior to the other guys, when infact, it is grossly inferior.

I could really even care less about what they do to their cars, its their damn care, do what you want, but!!, do not come up to me telling me that my car is a pos when your car would be smoke by mine, and please, do not try and tell me something when I can prove you wrong 10 different ways. I will take the time to now clear up the air/debunk some common ricer myths:


If there are only 4 sparkplugs, there are only four cylinders, trust me, they didnt hide any
19" Rims do not make your care fast. Read: rubber weighs less than metal
That cone filter did not giver you 5 or more horse power
neither did that CAI
No, you cant just put that turbo on there, unless you want to play 300 part pickup. READ: turbo manifold, porting, cams.
Lowering your care did not make it faster
Those glasspacks did not give you 10 horsepower, they actually did the opposite.
That 6" Tach does not make you shift better, nor does it make your car faster.
You do not need a shift light for an automatic, trust me.
You do not need dual exhuast on an inline 4
Their is no such thing as a V-4 (anymore, modern)
Just because you put a V-tech badge on your car, it doesnt make your car fast.
Neither does that Type-R Badge,
or the Type-E badge
A 2' Tall Whale Tale might be whats slowing your E/T.
Please refrain from taking your younger brothers erector set and making a spoiler out of it.
Your bodykit that doesnt even flow is not more aerodynamic.
If you dont believe me, ask the engineer that built your car.
That non-functional hood scoop is not helping, read DRAG
You only need blow off valves if you have forced induction.
by forced induction, I am refering to a turbo.
Forget about that wastegate and intercooler too, it wont do any good.
All that neon is doing is warning other people you are comming, thankyou for saving countless lives.
Those lambo doors only MAKE your car look fast SOMETIMES, mostly they make your car look dumb.
Your sub may be too big if you have to take the back seat to get it in and out.
A Long Throw shifter is usually a bad idea if you want to speed up your shifts.
Flourescent Paint on ANY part of the car, especially the interior, is usually un-desirable.
Ebay is not the ultimate parts store, READ: cheap imitations that will break
If you have to roll down your windows to drive at night, you may have gone to dark.
Maybe, just maybe.
If your idead of a "pimp" ride is a car with 10 tv's and 50 speakers and a ugly paint job, please get out of the gene pool.
PLEASE!!!
If the Stereo cost more or is worth more than you paid for you car, then you have some problems.
If you think audiobahn subs/amps are the best, then you are automatically inducted into the Ricers Association.
Sony Xplod stereo equipment is not the best you can get.
The body kit you put on your car is meant to be painted.
If your idea of engine mods include removing the O2 sensor or the pcv, you may have some idle problems in the future.
If you need 20lbs of boost to get over 200hp, you may want to look into other engine mods. Read: bigger engine.
Just because you have a V-tech engine, it does not mean your car is hi-po.
You mom will not think the disc brake simulators and whaletale are "tight"
If your bodykit acts as a snowplow in the snow, then..well, actually, your helping the rest of us out.
If your exhuast is louder than your stereo, it may not be a good thing.
If your exhuast or stereo produces more Db's than your engine produces hp, you have some problems.
Yes, the cops do pull ricers over more, they are tired of them like the rest of us.
If you claim you civic with a fart canon and CAI can beat a Cobra Mustang, he may have felt sorry for you.
People do not appreciate you fart canons and 15" subs at 1 o'clock in the morning.
If you have hood pins on your car, fine, but if you are still useing the oem latch also, then you are dumb.
Hood Pins are normally for hoods that do not fit on hinges.
You do not drift in a fwd car.
You can not do donuts in a fwd car.
9k RPM is not a good thing.
Your engine is not supposed to smoke.
If your coolant temperature is one mark away from "You just cooked your motor" its time to stop riding it at 6k rpm
Your alternator WILL dye if your amps pulls more power than the alternator can supply.
That optima yellowtop aint doing any good.
Neither is that stiffening capacitor.
Trust me, its all for show.
Do not use a deep cycle battery as a starting battery.
That cadilac is probably faster than you, dont test the old dude, he will probably smoke you.
Its generally not a good idea to do 100mph on an overpass on a rainynight.
Neutral Slamming your automatic transmission does not make it that much of a difference, unless your taling wear, then yes, your transmission will be torn up in no time.
The passenger in the car isnt the reason you lost the race.
Removing the backseat did no good after you put all the stereo equipment and neon in your car.
If you have to slow down over bumps in the road to avoid your tires hitting the wheel well, then you may have lowered them too much.
That sway bar does not make your car handle better than a porsche.
A momo steering wheel is not making your car handle better. and its probably not even as comfortable
Not to mention it doesnt have an airbag.
If you put in racing seat, and still use the stock seat belt, then why did you bother?
It is not a good idea to watch a movie or play video games while you are driving.
Trust me, they are for the passenger.
Its not polite to flip off someone just because they beat you in a race, that actually might get your ass beat.
If you call a cop a pig, you may have just earned yourself a few more tickets.


Thats all I could think of.

[Nightwolf]

Oh yea, he has neons too...its a car club requirement. And...he does have to slow down over bumps and railroad crossings.

[airbornflght]

Oh yea, he has neons too...its a car club requirement.

Neons are okay, but can I ask why? A lot of people say that neons look dumb, especially on the interior, but I think it depends on how you use them. But why would they make it a requirment? I think it should be the individuals choice.

[Nightwolf]

Neons are okay, but can I ask why? A lot of people say that neons look dumb, especially on the interior, but I think it depends on how you use them. But why would they make it a requirment? I think it should be the individuals choice.
When they 'cruise' together they all flip on the neons....I mean, 8-17 cars driving down the highway with neons looks pretty kickassish.

[airbornflght]

All the same color or a rainbow,I can see if they are standardize on blue or some other color, but not sure how a mix match of colors would look.

[Nightwolf]

All the same color or a rainbow,I can see if they are standardize on blue or some other color, but not sure how a mix match of colors would look.
Nah, all colors match their car.

[airbornflght]

yeh, i can see that, I was just thinking of them going down the highway in pitch dark and someone else comming the other way and a giant red mass moving toward them, would look pretty sweet. especially parked in the dark, the you could turn lights off, would look crazy.

[Clutch]

Egh, I would so rather drive my Mustang than a freakin import anyday..rawr.

[airbornflght]

I dont car if its import or domestic, as long as its fast. The only thing I like about v8s and other large engines is that you get more of a power gain with mods. Where you have to do more work on say an inline 4 to get the same power increase.

[Nightwolf]

I can't stand Mustangs, too overrated in my book.

[airbornflght]

All fast cars are over rated. (mostly). Its just a matter of what you like and what you want to drive. If I like the way an ls1 camaro looks and runs, and I enjoy driving it, do you thinking I would give a flying f*** if 10,000 people said my car is an overated GM pos?

[Clutch]

If you liked the way a camaro looks..a car that looks like a catfish..then you would deserve it 100 times over.

[Gargoyle]

..a car that looks like a catfish..
True, but we won't even mention the EscortStang.

Or will we? :D

[Clutch]

Well see that was the late 80's early 90's model. Camaros uo to 2000 still look like a catfish. Mustangs changed in 1994 to the 94-98 model. Chevy just kept that ugly ****ing look going.

[Thrax]

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/normal_TUNING%20Trabant%20601%20Combi.JPG

LET'S RACE, YO. I TRIPPED OUT MY FLOWMASTAS.

[airbornflght]

http://www.musclecarnationals.com/gallery/camaro/68camarobout0405.jpg

Im ready thrax. Name the place.


And lets not forget abot the Chevelle SS. Those will easily smoke a mustang. Drop a trick 454 in a chevelle, get a roots type Supercharger, and maybe even some nos and your gone.:mullet:

[Nightwolf]

Or, grab a 1968 Mustang Fastback. We'll throw a 428 Super Cobra Jet engine, bore it .40 over, new aluminum heads, domed forged pistons, forged steel crankshaft, steel connecting rods, crane cams, crane alluminum rockers, crane race valve springs, manley valves, i'm growing tired...but you get the idea. I'll top it off with a Holley made Roots type supercharger and we'll see who wins.

[airbornflght]

ok, ok, I'll bore my 454 60 over, and change out the tranny to a drag type slap shifter.

[Nightwolf]

You'll still get smoked....i'll even just run a C6 tranny!

[Gargoyle]

You'll still get smoked....i'll even just run a C6 tranny!
You just put a number in your name. Sorry, you've lost your credibility :p

[Nightwolf]

You just put a number in your name. Sorry, you've lost your credibility :p
Want me to change it back? lol. This is how I have my name on all my other forums, my e-mail, all games...all..games, all my messaging, pretty much everything.

[airbornflght]

Only on SM could we have an unlimited budget, imaginary car build off and race. :vimp:

[Thrax]

Want me to change it back? lol. This is how I have my name on all my other forums, my e-mail, all games...all..games, all my messaging, pretty much everything.

Y35 Y0U 5H0U1D CH4N93 17 LOLLOLOL. Th4nks.

[airbornflght]

Hey thrax, have you been to the photochop thread lately?

[Nightwolf]

I can't stand Mustangs, too overrated in my book.
I take this back. Drove a friends '06 Mustang GT yesturday....those things haul a$$!

[airbornflght]

yeh, the magic of a v8.

[Clutch]

I take this back. Drove a friends '06 Mustang GT yesturday....those things haul a$$!


Well I could have told you that :)

[Esso]

Were you think your'e going (http://www.fugly.com/videos/3668/crash-comp.html)

Koenigsegg CCX (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5690527907781299378&q=top+gear+ccx)

[Nightwolf]

Were you think your'e going (http://www.fugly.com/videos/3668/crash-comp.html)

Koenigsegg CCX (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5690527907781299378&q=top+gear+ccx)
Those things are amazing, my favorite super car. Carbon fiber chasis, 2600 lbs and 800 HP, qt mile in like 3 seconds...amazing craftmanship.

[Gargoyle]

Wish we had Top Gear here.