Gotta Rant

[Kwitko]

<:rant:>
Okay, I think we've reached a collective level of stupidity unmatched in US history. Does anyone proofread anymore? Has writing become a lost art? Are grammar and punctuation lost at sea?

I was watching TV and the trailer for Superman Returns comes on. They show a few snippets of critics' accolades of the movie. The last one they show was from Newsweek:
It's [sic] imagery is breathtaking...

I mean, come on, did nobody catch that? Seriously, it takes all of 30 seconds to proofread copy for a commercial. I'd like to meet the assclown responsible. Yes, it's just a simple little typo, but to me it seems to be a symptom of something larger. It seems that the internet has created a collective laziness amongst its users, and it's extended to other media. I know there are more important things in the world to worry about, but I fear for a society that has lost its ability to portray the written word correctly.

Nobody need reply, I just had to get that off my chest. There, I feel better.
</:rant:>

[drasnor]

I feel the same way. The worst part is that in the internet age we do most of our communication via writing.

-drasnor :fold:

[DogDragon]

Hey you think that's bad you should read the Key West Citizen lol
One time they actually have the wrong day on the front page.
My wife use to gets kicks from circling the mistakes

[primesuspect]

it's really a big problem, Seth. These writer's and there aweful command of the English language. :shakehead

[Kwitko]

it's really a big problem, Seth. These writer's and there aweful command of the English language. :shakehead

Yeah, eye no what your talking about.



































Jerk.

[FoldingAddict]

LOL...a thread about poor modern age spelling / grammar and this thread is full of it. :D

~FA

[profdlp]

Bummer.

[airbornflght]

Read the newspaper, it is filled full of typos and mechanical and useage errors. When I read it, I manage to usually find 20 or so, I guess that can be expected when churning out a big ass publication every 24 hours though.

[RWB]

If I were to write a report, I'll use proper grammar and make full use of spell check. Otherwise I could care less as long as I am legible.

[Kwitko]

If I were to write a report, I'll use proper grammar and make full use of spell check. Otherwise I could care less as long as I am legible.

Couldn't care less.

[profdlp]

If I were to write a report, I'll use proper grammar...
If I were to write a report, I'd use proper grammar...

[Keebler]

Read the newspaper, it is filled full of typos and mechanical and useage errors. When I read it, I manage to usually find 20 or so, I guess that can be expected when churning out a big ass publication every 24 hours though.
Read the newspaper; it is full of typos, mechanical errors, and useage errors. When I read it, I usually manage to find 20 or so. I guess that can be expected when churning out a big-ass publication every 24 hours, though.
:D

[airbornflght]

:D

Someone take the grammar composition chapter a bit too hard, ehh?

Though, I can write correctly when I need to, and the part about the errors, I think it reads easier if it was written 'it is full of typos, mechanical and useage errors.'

[FoldingAddict]

Couldn't care less.

That HAS to be the most misused cliché of all time. I have only heard/read one person use it correctly in my entire life. Every time I ask one of my friends: “wait…you said you ‘could care less’, doesn’t that mean you care a little bit at least?” All they give me is a blank look. The next time they use the term, they still misuse it, so I'm at a loss!:rant:

Someone take the grammar composition chapter a bit too hard, ehh?

Though, I can write correctly when I need to, and the part about the errors, I think it reads easier if it was written 'it is full of typos, mechanical and useage errors.'

Don’t worry man. Keebs in all his grammatical prowess still failed to remember that there is no “e” in the middle of “usage.”


~FA

[sfleuriet]

I catch improper use of spelling and grammar all the time. I just can't help noticing it, but usually try not to correct it.

[Keebler]

Regardless, I can write correctly when I need to. As for the part about the errors, I think it reads easier as "it is full of typos, mechanical and useage errors."
You think wrongly. :D
Don’t worry, man. Keebs, in all his grammatical prowess, still failed to remember that there is no “e” in the middle of “usage.”
Got you back :p



hehehe ;)

[profdlp]

...I can write correctly when I need to...
Yeah.

And every drunk in every bar in the whole world swears that they can take it or leave it. :range:

[RWB]

If I were to write a report, I'd use proper grammar...

You would, but I will. ;)

[profdlp]

You would, but I will. ;)
If I were to, I would. If I am, I will.

I am, I said.
/Neil Diamond

[FoldingAddict]

Got you back :p

hehehe ;)

I would argue that those commas are optional.:p Your error was blatant. :)

~FA

[airbornflght]

Wow...We are editing posts made on an internet forum to make it formal, where as, this is an area for informa discussion. God forbid the day all language must be written and spoken so as to appear like a literate.

[FoldingAddict]

all language must be spoken and written formally.

Don't even play!:D

~FA

[Black Hawk]

That HAS to be the most misused cliché of all time. I have only heard/read one person use it correctly in my entire life. Every time I ask one of my friends: “wait…you said you ‘could care less’, doesn’t that mean you care a little bit at least?” All they give me is a blank look. The next time they use the term, they still misuse it, so I'm at a loss!:rant:

~FA
FWIW, it could be argued that "I could care less" is simply used in a sarcastic manner.

There’s a close link between the stress pattern of I could care less and the kind that appears in certain sarcastic or self-deprecatory phrases that are associated with the Yiddish heritage and (especially) New York Jewish speech. Perhaps the best known is I should be so lucky!, in which the real sense is often “I have no hope of being so lucky”, a closely similar stress pattern with the same sarcastic inversion of meaning. There’s no evidence to suggest that I could care less came directly from Yiddish, but the similarity is suggestive. There are other American expressions that have a similar sarcastic inversion of apparent sense, such as Tell me about it!, which usually means “Don’t tell me about it, because I know all about it already”. These may come from similar sources.

[FoldingAddict]

"I could care less" just doesn't seem to quite fit into the above category. Just my opinion though.

~FA

[Leonardo]

YiddishThat's what they speak in Porto Rica and Spain, right?

[FoldingAddict]

That's what they speak in Porto Rica and Spain, right?

LOL!:thumbsup:

~FA

[Nomad]

That HAS to be the most misused cliché of all time. I have only heard/read one person use it correctly in my entire life. Every time I ask one of my friends: “wait…you said you ‘could care less’, doesn’t that mean you care a little bit at least?” All they give me is a blank look. The next time they use the term, they still misuse it, so I'm at a loss!:rant:



Don’t worry man. Keebs in all his grammatical prowess still failed to remember that there is no “e” in the middle of “usage.”


~FA

Couldn't care less and could care less are interchangable expressions.

[FoldingAddict]

Perhaps. But the correctness of the latter is debatable in my opinion.

~FA

[Leonardo]

correctness of the latter :scratch: If the latter ain't right, don't be climbing on the durn thing or you'll fall and bust your ass. Dagnabbit, some people!

[FoldingAddict]

:scratch: If the latter ain't right, don't be climbing on the durn thing or you'll fall and bust your ass. Dagnabbit, some people!

Latter...isn't that the word? /me checks Webster's

Yep! Latter.:bigggrin:

~FA

[Thrax]

Wow...We are editing posts made on an internet forum to make it formal, where as, this is an area for informa discussion. God forbid the day all language must be written and spoken so as to appear literate.

Fixed.

[deicist]

Wow...We are editing posts made on an internet forum to make it formal, where as, this is an area for informa discussion. God forbid the day all language must be written and spoken so as to appear legible.


double fixed

[airbornflght]

I am going to kill you all. You are worse than my English teacher tenfold.

[deicist]

I am going to kill you all. You are worse than my English teacher tenfold.

Your english teacher who is called tenfold?

[Thrax]

Ah, deicist, do you mean his English teacher?

[Kwitko]

FWIW, it could be argued that "I could care less" is simply used in a sarcastic manner.

Anyone who tells you "Could care less" is sarcastic or ironic is an idiot.:rarr:

[Kwitko]

Wow, we are editing posts made on an informal internet forum to make them formal. God forbid the day comes that all language must be written and spoken so as to appear legible.


Triple fixed.

[Thrax]

Capitalize the first letter inside a quotation mark! ENGLISH NEWB.

[profdlp]

Latter...isn't that the word?...
C U latter, alligattor! After wile, crocodhile!

[RADA]

Keebs,

You are not alone in your frustrations.

My fiance is a teacher. She finally lost control, pulled out her red marker, and proceeded to correct the monthly Home Owners Association magazine. She found 45 errors within the publication! She waited till the HOA office was closed for the day, then returned the magazine to the office through the mail slot!!

[airbornflght]

/me walks out, and vows never to return to this thread.

[GHoosdum]

He'll be back. In fact, he's probably reading this post right now. ;)

[Kwitko]

I used to contribute regularly to a website called Human Spell Check, whose purpose was to point out spelling and grammar mistakes on commercial websites, magazines, newspapers, TV, billboards, and other forms of mass media. Unfortunately the site has closed down, but many more have popped up in its place.

[profdlp]

* airbornflght walks out, and vows never to return to this thread.
Chicken! :nudge:

[Leonardo]

God forbid the day all language must be written and spoken so as to appear legible. Ah, now that is good spelling, grammar, and it's an easily readable sentence.


:nudge: Unfortunately, the word "legible" is misused in this instance. The word legible means possible to read or decipher, plainly discernible. Writing can be full of grammatical errors and misspellings but be perfectly legible. Such is the case with Short-Media threads on a continual basis. Can't we all just get along? ;D

Andy (since we know you are reading this): we are all proud of you. We wouldn't razz you so much if we didn't like you. :) I've notice a big difference (positive) in your messaging here at S-M from when you first became an active member.

[profdlp]

...We wouldn't razz you so much if we didn't like you...
That is quite true. :)

I shudder to think of what we might do if that were not the case. :honoes:

[Kwitko]

That is quite true. :)

I shudder to think of what we might do if that were not the case. :honoes:

We'd treat him like we treat you.

[profdlp]

We'd treat him like we treat you.
Poor little guy... :(

[airbornflght]

Andy (since we know you are reading this)


You got me.:doh:


(If there is an error in the above sentence, then I fail the English Language:vimp: )

[Thrax]

Technically, it's more formal to state it as "You've me," or even "You have me."

[airbornflght]

Technically, it's more formal to state it as "You've me," or even "You have me."
:Pwned:

[deicist]

:nudge: Unfortunately, the word "legible" is misused in this instance. The word legible means possible to read or decipher, plainly discernible. Writing can be full of grammatical errors and misspellings but be perfectly legible. .

I beg to differ sir, I purposely used legible in that sentence to point out that very fact. Whilst the majority of forum users manage to achieve legibility there are some who make my brain hurt whilst trying to parse their sentences.

[primesuspect]

I think the irony of a thread whose subject is extreme grammatical pedantery, yet whose title contains a slang word, is quite funny.

[profdlp]

...whose subject is extreme grammatical pedantery...
pedantry ;)

[primesuspect]

I blame you, steve.

[profdlp]

Fair enough. The letter "e" accounts for 40% of the name "Steve", so obviously you had that on your mind when you placed the extra vowel in pedantry.

My role in the mechanics of the universe is becoming more clear to me each day. If I could only find a way to harness my powers for good... :-/

[Gargoyle]

Fair enough. The letter "e" accounts for 40% of the name "Steve", so obviously you had that on your mind when you placed the extra vowel in pedantry.

My role in the mechanics of the universe is becoming more clear to me each day. If I could only find a way to harness my powers for good... :-/

The extra letter "H" in my name is the source of my power. Luckily, no one can take it away from me, so that's safe for me to reveal.

- Johnathan

[Kwitko]

I think the irony of a thread whose subject is extreme grammatical pedantery, yet whose title contains a slang word, is quite funny.

It's not about extreme grammatical pedantry, it's the lamentation of the decline of the written word, pining for the days of yore when people capitalized, punctuated, and knew the difference between its and it's.

[MrBill]

Keebs,

You are not alone in your frustrations.

My fiance is a teacher. She finally lost control, pulled out her red marker, and proceeded to correct the monthly Home Owners Association magazine. She found 45 errors within the publication! She waited till the HOA office was closed for the day, then returned the magazine to the office through the mail slot!!
I think that should be until. ;)

This thread, if nothing else, is providing some relief to an otherwise mundane day.

[profdlp]

...This thread, if nothing else, is providing some relief to an otherwise mundane day.
But...its (sic) not mundane...its' (sic) Thursdane. :confused:

[MrBill]

But...its (sic) not mundane...its' (sic) Thursdane. :confused:
Now I see understand what everyone says about you prof. :nudge: :bigggrin:


btw...what does (sic) represent? :confused:

[GHoosdum]

It means "thus" in Latin, and is used to denote that the spelling, or in some cases the grammar, is known to be incorrect in a quoted piece.

[MrBill]

It means "thus" in Latin, and is used to denote that the spelling, or in some cases the grammar, is known to be incorrect in a quoted piece.
Thank you for the explanation. Now that I know what it means, one would think the quote and reply option on forums would automatically insert (sic) in the quoted section. ;D