Black and White Game on Windows XP?

[Dexter]

So, I built the new box...Atlhon XP 2500+ (Barton), 256 Mb RAM, DFI AD77 mobo...a nice step up from the old home unit. On to that, I installed a brand new and legal OEM copy of Windows XP.

My 12 yr old son has been waiting impatiently for days for me to get this done. He had recently bought the EA game Black and White, which would not play on the old computer (video card not up to snuff.)

So I installed it for him, we launched it, the start-up screen appears...and then "poof", it disappears. :mad:

So I do some research, and find some pointers on EA Games site:..end all user processes except explorer and taskmger, clear the temp directory, uninstall and re-install, etc. No change. :scratch:

So, is anyone using Black and White (orginal version not "recommended" for XP) on XP? If so, is there a patch for XP (we ran the game patch that is on the install disk to fix some game issues, not a specific OS patch.

Any good advice would make my son's weekend much brighter :)

Cheers,

Dexter...

[Geeky1]

All I can say is that it works fine on my XP machines...

Have you d/led all the patches from EA? Try that, and try updating your video drivers to the latest ones (or the 3.7s if it's an ATi card)

[Black Hawk]

You could try running it in compatability mode...

[Dexter]

Actually, we found the answer on Gamefaqs.com, and you guys were on the right track. Needed the v1.2 patch, and it has to be set to Win98 compatibility. My video drivers are okay, new card (though I will search for an update soon (when my boy gets tired of being a white god... )

Thanks guys,

:D :D

[Lammypie]

Yeah I used to love Black and White. I had it running on windows 2000.
A few issues, most resolved after first patch.
I sent in detailed error reports as requested.

The Black and White support page said "win2000 issues being worked on check back soon"

It stayed like that for almost 2 years.

WinXP had same problems. Lionhead studios claimed to be working on a fix I continued to send in detailed accounts of errors.

Certain points in the game were unplayable.

Then suddenly the second long awaited patch long promised by lionhead studios (even before the release of the first patch) was scrapped. EA stop trying to fix the problems, and expect everyone to upgrade to black and white 2.

Well sod them. I haven't played the game since, even thought it was my favorite game of all time.
This was not my first run in with poor customer support from EA, and it won't be my last, but I am very weary about buying EA games now, and I certainly don't unless I can avoid it.

I am certainly not buying Black and White 2.

Shame. EA is naff - unfortunalty they own most of the good games now.

[Geeky1]

I'll be buying Black & White 2, when it comes out. Say what you will about EA (I didn't appreciate the incompatibility with ATi cards in NFSHP2...) but their games are the best around. Black & White STILL has the best AI of any game I've ever used, bar none.

[Dexter]

Well, I can understand the point of no longer putting comany resources into patching old software, and just telling user that they have to buy new software. When you buy a game that is designed for ceratin OS platforms, if you make a conscious decision to move away from that platform, that does not make EA or any other software producer automatically responsible to provide you with a patch to enable that. There is no express guarantee in the software that it will last you a lifetime through any OS you upgarde to. Obviously, if enough demand exists to create patches, companies are going to do it. But if they are working on a newer version which will work on the newer OS, it does not make sound business sense to invest a lot of man-hours into upgrading the old version. Owners of the old software either have to stick with the OS that works, or suck it up and buy the new version.

As for our install, it is working great, with only one hitch. I had set up XP home so that my son had "limited" rights, just for an added measure of protection. But B&W (and I suspect many other games that require the CD in the tray to play) would not work for him on limited rights. So I upped him to admin rights, with a stern warning to always virus scan any downloads and not install any software without talking to his mom or I first. Consequences will be losing admin rights, which translates to losing rights to play these types of games. He's a smart kid, he'll be careful :)

Cheers all,

Dexter...

[bothered]

I have the same thing with my accounts and kids. If I install a game I go to - http://www.megagames.com/cracks/gm6.htm
and download a noCD fix. This lets me play the games without putting the CD in.
This is not a warez site, it just has noCD fixs and patches.

bothered.

[Enverex]

www.megagames.com
www.gamecopyworld.com

Are the 2 main "No-CD Crack" sites about. GCW also normally has all the patches and updates for the game in the games section too, which is useful.

NS

[Armo]

me and a firend were just playing around in a net game, he had the super smart ape that would cast heals and rain and wood spells automaticly and i had effrum the retarded tiger ( fmaily guy quoe if you dont know ) mine would eat villigers and take craps in the food supply. but when we fought mine pwjid his >=)

[WuGgaRoO]

did u get it workinjg yet?

[Mikeybob]

Well I've got a slightly different problem ... I found all your advise helpful but my problem is still there. When I load up the game it does so happily until the animated Lionhead logo appears. Then the animation goes dodgy and lots of random lines appear. In the gane itself rocks and other things will disapear and reapear and parts of the screen flood with a single colour which then flashes so in a nutshell the GFX are fooked. Here's a screenshot I took of the first five mins of the game when you follow the three people back to the village and all the peeps are dancing and whatnot http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=7668742.

I looked on tonnes of forums, help sites, trouble shooters and even sent an E-mail to EA and they all say the same thing, log on as admin, shut down all none crucial processes, make sure your drivers are up to date etc etc. Nothing works :( ... not even the 1.1 or 1.2 patch.

If it's any help to you my specs are:

2600+ Athlon XP
GF FX 5600 Ultra (Gainward)
SoundBlaster PCI 128
Asus A7N8X Deluxe
512 Mb Corsair DDR
DirectX 9

Thanks :)

[Geeky1]

Well, this is probably not going to solve your problem, but you can take the SB 128 out, as it sucks. The onboard audio is far, far better.

I don't know what to tell you about the game, though. You could try replacing the GeForce FX with something decent, and that may fix it, but there may be other, more cost-effective ways of fixing it that I'm not aware of.

[Mikeybob]

Lol, tbh the soundcard is getting on a bit now, and I aint rich so the FX is a nice card for what I can afford :P lol.

Just wondered, could the prob be summin with DirectDraw?

[Enverex]

Are you overclocking the card at all? I had that problem when the core clock was too high on my Radeon...

[Mikeybob]

I don't think so, my case isn't very cool so I try not to overlock anything :/.

[da6thSense]

HELP!!
I got B&W to run on Xp with the patch 1.2 but once it's started, I had to face a new problem! You have to enter your name and symbol, but whenever I hit a mouse button, the game shuts down and returns to the desktop!! The mouse movement seems to be fine, I just can't puch any buttons....
Does anybody have an idea?!?!
Thanks

[Moogle]

HELP!!
I got B&W to run on Xp with the patch 1.2 but once it's started, I had to face a new problem! You have to enter your name and symbol, but whenever I hit a mouse button, the game shuts down and returns to the desktop!! The mouse movement seems to be fine, I just can't puch any buttons....
Does anybody have an idea?!?!
Thanks

I'm not sure. You can go to a site called gamefaqs.com, see if anyone has already asked that question. If not, you can ask it yourself.

[Irwin_finkle]

if i do what u said will v1.3 still work?

[Irwin_finkle]

i did that with v 1.3 first off where i find the exe file, second when i try to play it says it cant find P5DLL.dll and tell me to try reinstalling which i already did.

[Straight_Man]

I'm not sure. You can go to a site called gamefaqs.com, see if anyone has already asked that question. If not, you can ask it yourself.

To feed mouse to an old game, you need a slowed down mouse or a old mouse. XP is so dang good at feeding mouse-clicks that old games get overwhelmed. Take the mouse accelleration and zero it, plug in an older PS\2 mouse and use it for the game. Then the mouse will be slow enough that it will not be so far ahead of the game that the game gives up while trying to parse mouse click events and track a hyperfast moving mouse. That dll is a pointer and mouse click handler. Try running the game with Windows 95 compliance, for starters. A real old game may need an old mouse driver installed for it to work, and a floppy boot.

John D.

[bewildered]

I recently downloaded the B&W patch for black and white so it could run on my computer, but black an white still would not run! This game is driving me crazy!!! :banghead: Someone please help me! :sad2:

[Dexter]

I recently downloaded the B&W patch for black and white so it could run on my computer, but black an white still would not run! This game is driving me crazy!!! :banghead: Someone please help me! :sad2:


What OS are you running? What video card (type, make and model number) and what driver?

If it is XP, did you try the compatibility modes is mentioned earlier in this thread? Win98 compatibility worked for us.

Dexter...

[Geeky1]

This still puzzles the hell out of me. I've run it on like 5 different XP machines. Drop it in, install, and it works. Never had any issues at all. Has anyone had this issue with ATi cards? That's the only thing I can think of... every computer I've ever run it on has had ATi video, and it has always run fine. It even ran on my P3-600 SpeedStep/256MB/8MB Rage Mobility laptop, albiet at like 1fps @ minimum detail, since the Rage Mobility has no OpenGL or D3D support under XP...

[Thiruin]

Hey, Can you give me the URL's for these Patches please, as it doesn't work on my XP Machine either.

Thanks.

[Dexter]

The v1.2 patch is available here:

http://www.gamezone.com/gamesell/patches/t11761.htm

///EDIT 14 June 2004:

that link may no longer work. If that doesn't work, try this link

http://www.megagames.com/news/redir.cgi?http://216.127.90.3/patches/black_white_patch_v1_20.exe

There is a video ad on the browser window, but the patch is there and the server seems to work fine, nice and fast.



Dexter...

[Thiruin]

Thanks. If you play the game, is this a bug?

on the 3rd Island, I was good (allignment) but i got annoyed one day, destroyed everything, and become evil, i didn't want to be evil any more, so i decided to load a previous island in the save game section where i was good, but when i loaded, i looked and my temple and hand became evil.

[BigDaveGrrr]

Ive been trying to play BW and Ive had every problem Imagineable! I have finaly sorted them all out exept 2 interlinked ones:

1. BW doesnt like GeForce cards especialy FX5200 (guess which card I have!) I have finaly found out how to sort out the dodgy streaky graphics caused by this by putting compatability mode into 256 colours and it works perfectly...........Until:

2. (The same problem as da6thSense by the sound of it) when the game loads up it leaves the windows mouse pointer in BW!? so when I click it sends me straight back to windows. So then I click on B&W in the tool bar, it re-launches without the windows pointer and NOT in 256 colours!

All I can say is HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! before I go mad! :rant:

[Dexter]

Thanks. If you play the game, is this a bug?

on the 3rd Island, I was good (allignment) but i got annoyed one day, destroyed everything, and become evil, i didn't want to be evil any more, so i decided to load a previous island in the save game section where i was good, but when i loaded, i looked and my temple and hand became evil.


I do not play the game, only installed it and trouble-shot it for my son. Best place for tips on actual Gameplay is the GameFaqs link I posted above.

Dexter...

[Irrelevant]

Ok, i've had a long list of problems with this game. I bought the double pack at Wal-Mart with B&W and Creature Isle. I went to install, and it did so, then i tried to run it. I got the crash to desktop thing. so i patched it with 1.3. Did not work. Re-installed. Patched with 1.2. Worked with my mouse still connected to the desktop. So , i downloaded new video card drivers. Still no help. I opened the game, then clicked my mouse, then restored the window and it worked. Then i noticed terrible graphics glitches. The graphics were fine until i did the trick to get rid of the mouse pointer. Everytime it came back i had problems. I messed with every compatability option possible and no help. Finally, i found that you were supposed to uninstall Hotfix-KB824141. I did this, and the game worked sort of. It runs, but it still has graphics glitches and now it lags like crazy. I'm beginning to get very angry with this game :rant: , as i've done every possible thing i can think of to fix it, and it just slaps me in the face with a new problem every time. Can anyone help me??? has anyone else had this much trouble? Any suggestions? Here are the specs on my computer:

Processor: 1.0Ghz Intel Celeron
Gfx Card: GeForce MX 420 64MB
Memory: 512 SD
OS: Windows XP Professional version 2002 Service Pack 1
CD-ROM Drive: HP cd-writer

I do not see any reason for the poor performance unless it is just my video compatability with the game. I would not be surprised to find out that i have the one card the game will absolutely not work on....Please help me.

[Dexter]

Is that Geforce card AGP or PCI?

What driver are you running for it?

And have you checked your BIOS video settings to ensure your BIOS specs match your video cards requirements? IE, 64MB hole for a 64 MB card, proper AGP x settings if it is an AGP card, etc?

Dexter...

[Irrelevant]

It is a PCI card. I just updated my driver yesterday to 56.72. I dont know about the BIOS stuff. I remember having a lot of trouble overriding my onboard card when i installed the new card. I don't remember checking the compatability of my slot to the card though. How exactly would i go about doing this?

[BigDaveGrrr]

I do not see any reason for the poor performance unless it is just my video compatability with the game. I would not be surprised to find out that i have the one card the game will absolutely not work on....Please help me.

If you look further up the page Ive had exacly the same problem, I think that B&W doesnt like GeForce cards.

I still havent found a solution though! :rant:

[Dexter]

BigDaveGrr:

apparently there is also a known incompatibilty with a Microsoft update patch.

Start here for info:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=27287&topic=13976500

And the BW patches are available here:

http://dlx.gamespot.com/pc/blackwhite/index.html

Dexter...

[Dexter]

It is a PCI card. I just updated my driver yesterday to 56.72. I dont know about the BIOS stuff. I remember having a lot of trouble overriding my onboard card when i installed the new card. I don't remember checking the compatability of my slot to the card though. How exactly would i go about doing this?


OK....a 64 MB PCI card is pretty low end for the graphics intensive gaming you are getting into with games like B&W.

Read this:

http://www.sysopt.com/agp.html

PCI bandwidth peaks at 133 MB/sec in 32 bit mode. That is only under extremely optimal conditions, because the PCI bus is a shared bus, meaning your other peripherals - ethernet card, modem, sound, and whatever sle you have installed on it - all share that bus. If you even get 100 MB/sec you should be lucky.

AGP is a direct pipeline from the video processor to the RAM/CPU, etc. AGP in 1x mode can peak at 533 MB/sec. 2x, 4x, and 8x AGP up that number accordingly.

In other words, for smooth gaming quailty, you want / need an AGP card. If you have an AGP slot on your motherboard, you should switch to an AGP card. You will be much happier :)

Failing that, you could try moving to a PCI card with more RAM, but this doesn't help much with the speed of rendering graphics. As an example, my system has a 64MB AGP card running in 4X mode. My friend's son has a 128 MB PCI card. They both play Halo. When my son plays it, with graphics settings on full for most options, the video is smooth and superb. On my friend's son's computer, we had to set all the video options to the lowest settings or the game would crash constantly. My son's has never crashed. So, the RAM does not play nearly as much a factor as the speed, and for speed, you need AGP.

Dexter...

[ThEoNeAnDoNlY]

Hello all

im new to the forums so sorry if i am a bit of a pain at times but i have a problem with black and white that is apparently caused by windows xp.

ok when i play the game it works all fine. not a ingle problem atall... there i am minding my own business throwing villagers around my island to my hearts content, and then all of a sudden the whole game just freeses. no error message the whole thing just locks up. asiff time has stoped, the music cuts out etc.

I was experimenting with this, trying to find a trend, but there wasnt one. it froze randomly (usually bout 4 mins into game). so i tried stopping all non active..thingies on the desktop e.g ctrl+alt+del and then ending most all the procceses etc. but all to no avail. i tried running it in all the compatability modes and nothing happend. i have tried to get the patches but i cannot find them so if someone could be so kind as to give me a link i would e very gratefull. i have updated my video drivers to the latest versions. i cannot find a driver for my sound card (i think it is an internal nforce sound card).

i have tried everything :banghead: AAAAAAAA!!!!!!

WHY ME! WHY IS IT SO HARD TO PLAY THE MOST FUN AND STRESS RELIEVING :rarr: GAME ON THE PLANET (apart from postal 2)

i even tried re-formatting my pc!!! but nothing happend!

i have:

ATI Radeon 9800 pro
microsoft windows xp proffesional
amd athlon xp 2600+
NVIDIA Nforce audio

both my sound card and my video card are on full acceleration but the crappy eagames customer support said that that wont make any difference.


PLease someone HELP MEEE!!!!!!!! :banghead:

lol

Guy

:ukflag:

[ThEoNeAnDoNlY]

btw the game runs really good on my m8`s pc and he has almost the same pc (just he has a shuttle and different motherboard and soundcard, and he has p4)

Guy


:ukflag:

[Dexter]

i have:

ATI Radeon 9800 pro




Is that the 128 MB version or 256 MB version? WHat are your AGP and video memory settings in your BIOS set for? Is it in 4x or 8x mode? If you have your BIOS set for 8x, you may want to try backig it down to 4x.



both my sound card and my video card are on full acceleration but the crappy eagames customer support said that that wont make any difference.


I disagree. You may want to try backing the acceleration off one notch.

Also, what motherboard do you have, and are you running the lastest chipset drivers for it? And how much system RAM do you have?

Dexter...

[Deladreing]

Hello

I was wondering if anyone could help. W ehave XP on our computer and it appears top not let Black and White work. However whereas we were able to install it at first it now repeatedly comes up with

"This build of CDCode is for Black and White. Yhis is an invalid build of CDCode. Please fill out the EReg Config form to obtain calid CDCode build"

The thing is we have donethis. and are now completely lost. We have tried numerous downlaods but still we have the small problem of that it will not install. DOes any one have any thoughts or ideas as to what could be up?
it all worked last time. its so very annoying that it wont now >:|
thanks

[Dexter]

This is a thread that does not want to die...... ;)

Well, I did some googling, and the answers came up....in German. Here is a translated version...kind of choppy:

The Setup has an error: If you delete the play file, the play cannot be installed any longer: It finds its entries in the registration data base and thinks, it would be already installed.
In order to create that remedy, you start the program REGEDIT (in Windows over starting/implementing). Look for for the key LionHead, and you delete all entries.
Change to it to the entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, software, Microsoft, Windows, CurrentVersion, university stable. Delete the key there { E51b4cd9-a0a6-4324-b2ã-31b3f2de26ce }. Now the NEW INSTALLATION is possible.

So basically, uninstall B&W, run Regedit, find any keys marked LionHead, and delete them. Then...I suspect that "university stable" actually should have been translated to "uninstall." So go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, software, Microsoft, Windows, CurrentVersion, Uninstall, and look for a key that matches up to E51B4CD9-A0A6-4324-B26A-31B3F2DE26CE, and delete that.

Oh, and.....

***DISCLAIMER*** Using Regedit without adequate knowledge can seriously foul up your computer. Proceed with caution.

I have not tested this so I take no responsibility for the result, but the reasoning is sound. You are basically going to be wiping off the traces of the software that do not get uninstalled by the uninstaller.

Please come back and let me know if that worked.

Dexter...

[Deladreing]

Thank you very much I will try that

Fortunately I kinda do know what I am doing with Regedit so fingers crossed!

[f&%¤]

My black and white crashes after black & white logo. :banghead: Please help!!

windows xp
geforce mx 420
768 ddr
AMD Athlon xp 2000+
1.67 ghz

[f&%¤]

HEEELP :rarr: :banghead:

[shwaip]

Firstly, two hours is not very much time to allow people time to reply to your issues, especially on a sunday morning at 7:30 EST, which is 4:30 PST. Most of our members are located in these time zones, although we do have some in Europe/Australia. I cannot help you with this problem, but there is a wealth of knowledge here. Please be patient.


after checking the second or third post of this thread, have you tried this:


Actually, we found the answer on Gamefaqs.com, and you guys were on the right track. Needed the v1.2 patch, and it has to be set to Win98 compatibility.

[Dexter]

My black and white crashes after black & white logo. :banghead: Please help!!

windows xp
geforce mx 420
768 ddr
AMD Athlon xp 2000+
1.67 ghz


did you try the patches and tips linked earlier in this thread...?

Dexter...

[Yojimbo]

Actually, we found the answer on Gamefaqs.com, and you guys were on the right track. Needed the v1.2 patch, and it has to be set to Win98 compatibility.
Riiight, so how do you set it to Win98 compability?

[ABCDEFG]

How do you set the game to run under other compatabilities? i.e Win98

[muddocktor]

How do you set the game to run under other compatabilities? i.e Win98

Right click the startup icon and select properties, then click on the compatibility tab and select win98 compatibility mode.

[f&%¤]

now it works. i installed patch 1.1. but now if i try save i have an error "microsoft visual c++ runtime library" "runtime error! program: c:\progra~1\lionhe~1\black&~1\runblack.exe abnormal program termination" please help

[Dexter]

Sounds like a Direct X error:

http://www.planetblackandwhite.com/blackandwhite/techsupport/srblackandwhite.htm#dxerrors

Try downloading the latest version of Direct X, and updating your graphics card drivers.

Dexter...

[DeBaas]

I have been searching for "cure" and found that hotfix B824141, (a window xp up date) is the problem. It is a securtiy update and makes some type of problem with CI. Just uninstall and presto!! It works!!!

[Dexter]

I have been searching for "cure" and found that hotfix B824141, (a window xp up date) is the problem. It is a securtiy update and makes some type of problem with CI. Just uninstall and presto!! It works!!!


I'm confused as to the advice you are giving. Which problem did you "cure" by uninstalling this Hotfix?

Secondly, from a security standpoint, I would not recommend uninstalling this Hotfix. It's there for a reason:

A vulnerability exists because the ListBox control and the ComboBox control both call a function, which is located in the User32.dll file, that contains a buffer overrun. The function does not correctly validate the parameters that are sent from a specially-crafted Windows message. Windows messages provide a way for interactive processes to react to user events (for example, keystrokes or mouse movements) and to communicate with other interactive processes. A security vulnerability exists because the function that provides the list of accessibility options to the user does not correctly validate Windows messages that are sent to it. One process in the interactive desktop could use a specific Windows message to cause the ListBox control or the ComboBox control to execute arbitrary code. Any program that implements the ListBox control or the ComboBox control could allow code to be executed at an elevated level of administrative credentials, as long as the program is running at an elevated level of privileges (for example, Utility Manager in Windows 2000). This could include third-party applications.

An attacker who had the ability to log on to a system interactively could run a program that could send a specially-crafted Windows message to any applications that have implemented the ListBox control or the ComboBox control, causing the application to take any action an attacker specified. This could give an attacker complete control over the system by using Utility Manager in Windows 2000.

More information at that link http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-045.mspx and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=824141

Dexter...

[DeBaas]

Strange behavior of B & W(and creature isle), minimize in start up.
It is gone when you uninstall update 824141
I know this update is for security, but the "KIDS" want to play B & W.
The choise is yours.

[Dexter]

Strange behavior of B & W(and creature isle), minimize in start up.
It is gone when you uninstall update 824141
I know this update is for security, but the "KIDS" want to play B & W.
The choise is yours.


Hmmm.....I have that same update, and did not have to make that choice: my kid's B&W and Creature Isle both work with that update installed.

Dexter...

[Luke]

hi i wonder if u could help me i have read all of your info but my game get to the bit where it says tip of the day and locks out i have updated all my drivers and i have tried ther game in all compatabilty modes.

Plz help

[Dexter]

hi i wonder if u could help me i have read all of your info but my game get to the bit where it says tip of the day and locks out i have updated all my drivers and i have tried ther game in all compatabilty modes.

Plz help


Are you running XP? Did you install the 1.2 patch?

Dexter...

[Luke]

Are you running XP? Did you install the 1.2 patch?

Dexter...


Yes i am running xp and i have installed the 1.3 pacth and it still dont work HELP PLZ :rant:

[Dexter]

Yes i am running xp and i have installed the 1.3 pacth and it still dont work HELP PLZ :rant:

Ahem...did you not notice that I asked very specifically about the 1.2 patch, not the 1.3?

The 1.3 has been known to not fix the problem. You MUST install the 1.2 patch first, then try it to see if it works, then you can try installing the 1.3 afterwards. Just installing the 1.3 may not fix your problem.

Dexter...

[Luke]

okay i have installed the pacth but the game keeps gettin stuck

[Dexter]

okay i have installed the pacth but the game keeps gettin stuck


What are the specifications of your system?


///EDIT: Also, make sure you have read this page:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=327979

and check to see if you have installed the 327979 recommended update. To do this, visit the following Microsoft Windows Update Web site, it will be under "Windows XP" updates.

Dexter...

[DeadlyHunter]

hey all of u im new and i just borrowed B&W from a friend to see if all ur suggestions and things uve all posted on this site work and i guess they do but the only problem is im not that much of a pro on a computer but i need to know who to do that "windows 98 compatibitlity" thing could anyone please tell me???please.:D

[Teknozari]

HELP!!
I got B&W to run on Xp with the patch 1.2 but once it's started, I had to face a new problem! You have to enter your name and symbol, but whenever I hit a mouse button, the game shuts down and returns to the desktop!! The mouse movement seems to be fine, I just can't puch any buttons....
Does anybody have an idea?!?!
Thanks

I have the same problem, and the suggestions that were made earlier did not work for me and I didn't find anything on gamefaqs. If anyone knows how to fix this, or has seen something on gamefaqs that I might have missed, can you let me know? Thanks! :)

-Oz :Canflag:

[Dexter]

hey all of u im new and i just borrowed B&W from a friend to see if all ur suggestions and things uve all posted on this site work and i guess they do but the only problem is im not that much of a pro on a computer but i need to know who to do that "windows 98 compatibitlity" thing could anyone please tell me???please.:D


Apparently you did not read "all" the advice posted in this thread, because this question was asked and answered earlier in this thread:

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151665&postcount=48

Also, for stuff like this, there is a handy little feature in your Windows XP called "HELP & SUPPORT" which can tell you the answer to Windows XP questions like this pretty easily. Type in "Compatibility Mode" and it willl tell you how to do this.

Dexter...

[SeaZephyr]

HELP!!
I got B&W to run on Xp with the patch 1.2 but once it's started, I had to face a new problem! You have to enter your name and symbol, but whenever I hit a mouse button, the game shuts down and returns to the desktop!! The mouse movement seems to be fine, I just can't puch any buttons....
Does anybody have an idea?!?!
Thanks

This sounds very much like a problem I once had, and I learned that it had to do with a Windows XP Critical Update. I uninstalled that particular update and the game worked fine. I just wish I could remember which critical update causes the problem. I found out the answer (as well as the solution to correct the problem) though in the Planet Black and White forums, so you might want to try there. Good luck! Here is the URL to planet Black and White.

www.planetblackandwhite.com/

[DeBaas]

for Windows XP uninstall hotfix B824141

Good Luck

[og_prankster]

When I try to install any of the patches i get an error box titled severe and says "You must first install Black &White to run this patch" even though it is installed. I tried changing it to win 98 compatibilty and putting in the default black and white directory with the other files. Please help me, I dont know what to do.

[DeBaas]

When you used a copy of a installed version the program cannot find the Registry setting.
OR
You use a different language version.
Search for a Registry patch maybe someware in this forum.
OR
first put the patch file in the B&W map en try again.
I hope ......................................................

[Teknozari]

I have the same problem, and the suggestions that were made earlier did not work for me and I didn't find anything on gamefaqs. If anyone knows how to fix this, or has seen something on gamefaqs that I might have missed, can you let me know? Thanks! :)

-Oz :Canflag:

Anyhoo, I solved the problem, I just uninstalled the hotfix. Thanks for the help! L8terz!

:Canflag:

[og_prankster]

When you used a copy of a installed version the program cannot find the Registry setting.
OR
You use a different language version.
Search for a Registry patch maybe someware in this forum.
OR
first put the patch file in the B&W map en try again.
I hope ......................................................

Bebaas, I don't know if you are answering my question but if your are I dont understand what you are telling me to do. I didnt find any map directory and no my game is installed fresh from the cd.

[the art knife]

i am having major problems trying to get Black and white to run properly on XP Home. i installed it with no patches and it was running fine, no glitches or freezes. but when i tried to exit the game it made my entire PC restart. If i tried to go back to the game it would start right from the begining, not where i left off, i tried loding saved games but they were all screwed up.

After reading the advice on this forum i downloaded and installed the V1.2 patch and tried running it first in normal mode (i got exactly the same problem with exiting the game as before) and then in windows 98 compatability mode........which made the game just randomly crash and shut down after about 4 minutes of playing.

Anyone have any ideas for a fix? I've been searching through a few forums and no-one has mentioned any similar problems. I really want to play this game again.

[Untitled]

Hmmm, I seem to have a different problem.

I tried downloading the 1.2 patch, but it claims that I "need to install Black and White before you can patch it."

I intalled with Class, could that have anything to do with it?

I did some other research, and the EA support site claims that I need to force the game to think that it should not connect to the internet.

Q. BLACK & WHITE IS CRASHING AT THE INITIAL 'TIPS OF THE DAY' SCREEN.

We have seen this crash occur on systems that try to connect to the Internet at the 'Tips of the Day' screen. To force Black & White into thinking that there is NO Internet connection you can do the following:

* Right click on the runBlack.exe file - the default location for this should be C:\Program Files\Lionhead Studios Ltd\Black & White - and select the Create Shortcut option.
* Right click on the Shortcut to runBlack.exe file and select the Properties option.
* In the box labelled Target type in the following command at the end of the path description: /NOINETCONN
* Click the OK button at the bottom of the box and then double-click the Shortcut to runBlack.exe to run the game.

If this does not solve the problem try installing the latest videocard and soundcard drivers. These updated drivers are available from your card manufacturers' websites, the web addresses should be provided with the documentation that came with your video and sound cards or PC. For help with DirectX and information on how to update your DirectX video card and sound card drivers try our helpful Update Your Drivers guide at http://common.ea-europe.com/gens/drivers.htm.

Programs that run in the background can cause problems when starting or running Black & White. To close down these programs hold down the CTRL and ALT buttons together and press DELETE once, the CLOSE PROGRAM window appears. Highlight a program in the CLOSE PROGRAM window and click onto END TASK at the bottom of the window to close the currently highlighted program. Repeat this process for the other programs making sure that EXPLORER and SYSTRAY are the only programs left running.



However, there is no obvious way to change the "target type" of the shortcut, in XP. does anybody know a way?

[Untitled]

When you used a copy of a installed version the program cannot find the Registry setting.
OR
You use a different language version.
Search for a Registry patch maybe someware in this forum.
OR
first put the patch file in the B&W map en try again.
I hope ......................................................

Hmmm, the Class version came with a registry setup, but that doesn't seem to be working.

what do you mean by "first put the patch file in the B&W map en try again."?

[Rul0r]

How to uninstall a hotfix???

i dont get it :S

[Rul0r]

ok i figured that out..

but it says that if i delete it lots of my programs dont work anymore...

just delete it ???
when im uninstalling it it said... if u delete this your pc may not work normal anymore :mean: i dont get it

[Dexter]

That's just a generic warning, don't worry about it. Although, as I have stated in this thread, I never had to disable that hotfix to get B&W to work on my Windows XP.

Dexter...

[Dexter]

However, there is no obvious way to change the "target type" of the shortcut, in XP. does anybody know a way?


Sorry for the late reply...but, you misread the instructions. Look at like this:

In the box labelled "Target"

type in the following command

at the end of the path description: /NOINETCONN

You are not looking for a "Target type." You need to TYPE in the box labelled "Target."

Dexter...

[Rul0r]

Well i deleted the hotfix and now it works...

thx all u guys :Canflag:

[malex]

hey all.... I really like this game, i have started playing it when appeared... Then i had windows 98.. Three days ago, i have installed windows XP, and had your problems:) Now i see i had to download the patch. I`m happy i found why my game wasn`t working.

I really think this game is the best i have ever played :D

I want to play Black and white 2!!! But in my country didn`t appeared in shops:( I really want to play it.

Bye!!!

[dalailama]

ive found this site really helpful, thanks guys, im downloading the patch as im typing this, incase i got future problems, here r my specs:

i hope its not a problem with what we all bought, lol

AMD ATHLON64 3200+ BOX
AMD64 S754 ASUS K8V-SE DLX K8T800
KINGSTON KVR 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 512MEG KIT
ASUS AGP GFX V9570TD GFX-5700 256Meg

so with this stuff, it should easily run, we will just wait and c, i might get the mouse problem, so ill just slow it down, stupid problems

:Canflag:

[Dexter]

ive found this site really helpful, thanks guys, im downloading the patch as im typing this, incase i got future problems, here r my specs:

i hope its not a problem with what we all bought, lol

AMD ATHLON64 3200+ BOX
AMD64 S754 ASUS K8V-SE DLX K8T800
KINGSTON KVR 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 512MEG KIT
ASUS AGP GFX V9570TD GFX-5700 256Meg

so with this stuff, it should easily run, we will just wait and c, i might get the mouse problem, so ill just slow it down, stupid problems

:Canflag:

You've got a pretty smoking' system there, you should have no trouble on the Video card end. Follow the advice in the thread here, and you should be okay.

Dexter...

[dalailama]

i downloaded the patch from the site u gave, and installed it, works like a charm, the ground is purple is some spots, but thats ok, i guess it suppose to be like that, lol, i love blowing stuff up...

thanks, only paid 1500 for it canadian, and its pretty godly

[dalailama]

hey all.... I really like this game, i have started playing it when appeared... Then i had windows 98.. Three days ago, i have installed windows XP, and had your problems:) Now i see i had to download the patch. I`m happy i found why my game wasn`t working.

I really think this game is the best i have ever played :D

I want to play Black and white 2!!! But in my country didn`t appeared in shops:( I really want to play it.

Bye!!!

dude, if u have a friend in another country, send em the cash and ask em to buy it for u, lol, hope i solved that for u

[jeannot]

hi there,

i'm from france so my english could be not so good,

i tried to run black & white on my pc,
running :

windows xp sp2,
with a gforce 4 ti4400, dx9 etc.

i installed the patch 1.20, and tried the win98 compability, but i still have the same problems (looks to be the direct3d compability or something... dunno, the game is ok, but the textures are... well, strange. jumping and jumping.)

what else could i do ?
thanks for your help

jean

[l3ean]

hi there,

i'm from france so my english could be not so good,

i tried to run black & white on my pc,
running :

windows xp sp2,
with a gforce 4 ti4400, dx9 etc.

i installed the patch 1.20, and tried the win98 compability, but i still have the same problems (looks to be the direct3d compability or something... dunno, the game is ok, but the textures are... well, strange. jumping and jumping.)

what else could i do ?
thanks for your help

jean

Same Problem Here. Followed in her same steps too.

AMD Athlon XP +2400
512 DDR
ATI Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR AND NVIDIA GeForce
in same box with ATI as primary display..........could two displays be a problem?
Anyway, mine doesn't even load the game, it just crashes back to desktop after splash screen. When it comes to uninstalling hotfixes, that is NOT recommended; and, even if i wanted to, i couldn't because it was part of SP2. In that case, i would have to reinstall windows xp fresh. Even then, it would have sp1 on it. Yes i have the Patch installed and everything..... Anyone with sp2 get this to run??? PLEASE help!!!! My little brother wants to play this game so bad.....otherwise, i would have left it in storage :p

[GrayFox]

HELP!!
I got B&W to run on Xp with the patch 1.2 but once it's started, I had to face a new problem! You have to enter your name and symbol, but whenever I hit a mouse button, the game shuts down and returns to the desktop!! The mouse movement seems to be fine, I just can't puch any buttons....
Does anybody have an idea?!?!
Thanks

If u have a logitech keyboard turn function lock off.

[dalailama]

hey.

just a reminder of what im using:
256 meg gfx5700 asus video card
512 meg kingston DDR ram
amd athlon 64bit 3200+ processor

most of us have the problem, have an amd systems, but i dont think thats what is causing it, dont uninstal nething, thats just stupid, try uninstalling the game, then instal it, then install patch 1.2 that fixed the problem for me

[l_add_l_is_3]

First off i would like to say thankyou to you guys here who helped me make B&W work on Xp. O my 98, the screen would keep darkening and going black with dodgy colours etc.

Secondly, i would like to post a warning. Some of you suggeeted uninstalling hotfix kb824141. A while back i was trying to fix this problem nad did indeed attempt to uninstall it. The messages i got read something like this -

"File name could not be changed. Click browse to find it or ok to continue"
It was looking where it was, as i could see it, so i clicked ok after bwosing repeatedly.

"Warning, continuing setup may stop your computer from working if file name has not been removed properly"
I carried on for a bit, but everyfile it came across it wanted be to browse for (there were only 2, asked me twice for each). So i clicked cancel uninstall nd got this
"Warning, not continuing setup may stop your computer from working"

I had no choice, stopped it comp didnt reboot, 1 week later all gcse coursework lost we had to reformat hard drive to get windows back. Every1 else could get their data but i had a password on my user account- aaaaagh.

My advice- dont ever uninstall a hotfix
Evesham micro advie - only ever install security and hish priority hot fixes


Geoffrey

[dalailama]

c, i told u guys u were stupid if u tried to remove a hot fix, microsoft isnt a multi billion dollar company because they make stupid patches, lol

[qaletaqa]

I don't like bringing up old threads, but...

I have a particular problem regariding Black and White, and I've tried EA's tech support, GameFaqs, and Google searching frantically - which is actually what brought me here.

I can't even get Black and White to install. I've had this same problem every time I've tried to install Black and White, on different systems and with different CDs.

When installing, I get an error saying an installer bitmap in a temporary directory cannot be installed. Afterwards, the installation crashes and each time I try to repeat the installation, it does the same thing.

I've restarted, cleaned out the temp directory after each install attempt, ran the installation file under various different compatibility modes, closed all user processes besides Explorer and Task Manager, but nothing's working.

Anyone have an idea of how to help?

[GWFS KILGORE]

Hey guys,i got the patch,and ive got the most recent Gforce drivers.The game didnt used to run.And now it does after i put on a V1.100 patch but the in game graphics are really messed up,i tried this new V1.20 patch but same problem,no effect whatsoever,i was wonderin if u cud help me?

I got Gforce 4mx
1G of DDR ram
2.01Ghz AMD
120G hard drive

the graphics turn funny colours and i get big scrawly lines accross the screen

[Tailsbe]

Hello, If i try save i have an error "microsoft visual c++ runtime library" "runtime error! program: c:\progra~1\lionhe~1\black&~1\runblack.exe abnormal program termination. Ive tried all the things Ive read in this post except deleteing the hotfix I dont think Ill try that but I have up to date video drivers and directx. Game runs fine till I reach the thrid island

[Deluxe]

Hey whats up everybody, i have XP with SP2 and i figured out how to run Black & White with a great frame rate as well as excellent gfx. im running with a celron 1.7ghz overclocked to a 2.5 geforce 4 mx 64mb video and about 512 of ram. I updated to nvidia's latest drivers and used the shortcut in the sys tray to change the image settings to high perfromace and left everything else at the programs will. All the nasty lines caused in the begining and all frezzing ceased to exist. Problem solved.

[Compwurx]

'Lo all. I joined this forum specifically for a solution to this issue, as it seems that many people are enjoying playing B&W on their XP systems now, the members here seem to be knowledgable, and the thread is still relatively active.
I thank you in advance for your kind assistance.

So here's the problem:
My game system is a refurbished Compaq
900 Mhz Duron (@900mhz)
Uwave2 mobo (aka: FIC AZ-31)
Original system BIOS
512meg SDRAM
GeForce4 440 MX w/AGP8X (64meg DDR on card)
Nvidia driver 6.6.9.3
DirectX version 9.0c
Windows XP Pro (5.1, Build 2600) w/ SP2

The game core runs fine, I have no hangs nor spontanious kick-outs from the game. My problem is in the textures displayed in the game. I can't verbally describe the problem, so I will resort to screenshots to show you what I see.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw003.jpg
As you can see, much of the landscape is blurred and blued out. Mountains tend to be transparent when you get too close to them. The ground disappears when close up on it.
As you can imagine, it's rather difficult to rain down terror on unsuspecting foes if I can't properly see my launch ramps...err...mountain ranges. Navigation is also rather difficult.
I have tried compatibility modes for both Win98, and Win2000
I have applied patches 1.1, and 1.2 both sequentially, and exclusively.
I have turned down all the resolution settings, draw distances, and graphics detail levels, to no avail. The flaw occurs under all the various settings.
My particular BIOS does not have advanced settings for the AGP speed, leading me to believe that only AGPX1 is applicable with this system.
Questions?
Comments?
Obscene remarks?
I call to the heavens, please hear me!
Many thanks, o higher powers.

Compwurx
The demonic God
with an angelic creature

[Gumby Gear]

[QUOTE=Compwurx]The game core runs fine, I have no hangs nor spontanious kick-outs from the game. My problem is in the textures displayed in the game. I can't verbally describe the problem, so I will resort to screenshots to show you what I see.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/legion_o_doom/BWflaw003.jpg
As you can see, much of the landscape is blurred and blued out. Mountains tend to be transparent when you get too close to them. The ground disappears when close up on it.
As you can imagine, it's rather difficult to rain down terror on unsuspecting foes if I can't properly see my launch ramps...err...mountain ranges. Navigation is also rather difficult.
I have tried compatibility modes for both Win98, and Win2000
I have applied patches 1.1, and 1.2 both sequentially, and exclusively.
I have turned down all the resolution settings, draw distances, and graphics detail levels, to no avail. The flaw occurs under all the various settings.
My particular BIOS does not have advanced settings for the AGP speed, leading me to believe that only AGPX1 is applicable with this system.

I have the same problem. I have tryed everything. Still no good. If anyone can help, I would be verey grateful. I have always got games running in the past, but this one is winning at the moment. :bawling:

[fenderi]

sounds like i've got quite a different prob than most you guys experience....i'm trying to get the game to work on my laptop because i know it's an old school game and i always loved it. my problem is.... after the black and white splash screen loads..... my computer totally crashes (blue screen and everything) and the computer turns off before i can read the error message on the blue screen. i have tried all the B&W patches, compatibility modes of all OS's. i run the diagnostics from the CD and everything checks ok. i'm pretty sure i have at least directx 8 and i have played around with dxdiag.exe to make sure all the sound and video tests work. but nothing i seem to do gets rid of this stupid blue screen message that turns the computer off. any ideas?


system specs (i know it's old but they still meet sys requirements haha)

dell latitude cpxj650
PIII 650MHZ (diagnostics say it is 417 but is still above minimum)
256MB PC133
ATI RAGE 8mb AGP

thanks guys.

edit: oops i'm running xp sp2

[Dexter]

ATI RAGE 8mb AGP



That's pretty bare minimum for this game. You may be out of luck....


Dexter...

[fenderi]

i felt that maybe so, however would that cause the blue screen of death killing my laptop?

[pontiak]

I was wondering where everyone is getting this patch from..I was sooo excited to find a copy of this game and alas..I realize that it HATES XP, grrrrr...anyways, I tried the 1.30 patch and it is telling me that a file is missing now....PLEASE HELP!

I really just want to play the game..its been 5 years since I have played it...and now that I have my very own copy..i would like to again...without booting up my crappy old 98 system. :(

[primesuspect]

I tried 1.3 on my system and it also had a problem - I think the 1.3 patch is only for certain controllers. I reinstalled the game and applied 1.2 and the game works flawlessly.

[shinythings]

Ok, I'm not really gifted in computers or whatever so forgive me asking dumb questions if that's what they come off on as.

Firstly I won't to mention that I have apparently the same graphics card that was already mentioned to conflict with running Black and White. I get the same exact graphic problems already mentioned.

First question, what does the hotfix 824141 do and how is it going to affect my system if I uninstall it?

Second, how do I run things in compatibility mode?

Thirdly, how do I run the game with 256 colors?

Any help is appreciated.

[Boris24]

İve got
6600GT geforce 128mb
768Mb ddr400 ram
P4 3.0 Hyperthreading
Asus p5 mothercard
but icant play that game i tried to install 1.2 patch but its says LHLlogr.dll cant find what im going to do please help im going to crazy :banghead:

[RoninOne]

İve got
6600GT geforce 128mb
768Mb ddr400 ram
P4 3.0 Hyperthreading
Asus p5 mothercard
but icant play that game i tried to install 1.2 patch but its says LHLlogr.dll cant find what im going to do please help im going to crazy :banghead:

Boris24 and all :
Had the same problems as some of you with Black and White on Windows XP.
Clicked icon, game would make it to the splash screen, then another window showed with "Options" on the menu bar and "Lionhead" on the title bar.Then it would disappear, and the game never started.

Someone was correct, the Black & White 1.20 patch fixes the problem (although not written to fix that problem) BUT you must be using Windows XP SP1 and the shortcut must be set for Windows 98 Compatibility mode.

If you use Windows XP SP2 as I do... Forget it the game will not run.

Ronin One

[primesuspect]

I have XP SP2 and do NOT have it set to compatibilty mode and everything works fine, so it might not have anything to do with those things.

[Dazcoen]

Hello, If i try save i have an error "microsoft visual c++ runtime library" "runtime error! program: c:\progra~1\lionhe~1\black&~1\runblack.exe abnormal program termination. Ive tried all the things Ive read in this post except deleteing the hotfix I dont think Ill try that but I have up to date video drivers and directx.

Hi, I just recently pulled the game back out and intalled on my XP system, I've got the same problem as this...When it autosaves or manual save this happens! I have current drivers and patch v1.20. but still to my frustration!

It's really bugging me and would much much appreciate if anybody has remedied this??

Cheers,
Daz.

[RoninOne]

I have XP SP2 and do NOT have it set to compatibilty mode and everything works fine, so it might not have anything to do with those things.

Curious Primesuspect ,
Black and White stopped working right after I installed Windows XP SP2. Before that, it worked with XP SP1 with the 1.2 patch applied set in Windows 98 compatibility mode.

I have AMD Athlon 1.2 Ghz processor, a Radeon 7000 32Meg AGP video card, and 256 Megs Ram.

What are running B&W using?
Ronin One

[ionicsourkrout]

OK, I just bought Black and White. I installed it and tried to play but it just started and then Quit out, yes I have xp. I was reading that a way to fix this is to Install Patch 1.2, I quickly Downloaded the patch and tried to install it. I will start to install and then is says "neither command line parameter specified is an existing directory.I click ok and it says that it cant be installed to that area. I tried to install v 1.1 first and it does the same thing but the second pop up says that I dont have the Correct version of Black and White to use this patch... I have tried re-installing multiple times... Suggestions?

[sk8ash]

OK, I just bought Black and White. I installed it and tried to play but it just started and then Quit out, yes I have xp. I was reading that a way to fix this is to Install Patch 1.2, I quickly Downloaded the patch and tried to install it. I will start to install and then is says "neither command line parameter specified is an existing directory.I click ok and it says that it cant be installed to that area. I tried to install v 1.1 first and it does the same thing but the second pop up says that I dont have the Correct version of Black and White to use this patch... I have tried re-installing multiple times... Suggestions?


Where did u get the 1.2 patch from

[wiggle.e]

OK, I just bought Black and White. I installed it and tried to play but it just started and then Quit out, yes I have xp. I was reading that a way to fix this is to Install Patch 1.2, I quickly Downloaded the patch and tried to install it. I will start to install and then is says "neither command line parameter specified is an existing directory.I click ok and it says that it cant be installed to that area. I tried to install v 1.1 first and it does the same thing but the second pop up says that I dont have the Correct version of Black and White to use this patch... I have tried re-installing multiple times... Suggestions?

I'm having the exact same problem and i can't find the answer anywhere else.

[Keiyentai]

I can get B&W installed and have sound only problem is my graphics look like an old Nintendo Cartridge that needs MAJOR cleaning. I have the 1.2Patch and it's anoying cuase when I had my 1.7Ghz Celeron Chip it ran fine but I upgraded to a 2.0Ghz P4 Northwood w/512k Cache and been having issues since. It makes me mad...if any one can find a Fix I would be verry greatful.

CPU: P4 2.0 Northwood w/512k Cache
Mobo: Asus P4533S-X
RAM: 768MB DDR PC 2700
Video: ATI Radeon 9000 64MB DDR non Pro
O/S: Windows XP SP2

[wiggle.e]

OK, I just bought Black and White. I installed it and tried to play but it just started and then Quit out, yes I have xp. I was reading that a way to fix this is to Install Patch 1.2, I quickly Downloaded the patch and tried to install it. I will start to install and then is says "neither command line parameter specified is an existing directory.I click ok and it says that it cant be installed to that area. I tried to install v 1.1 first and it does the same thing but the second pop up says that I dont have the Correct version of Black and White to use this patch... I have tried re-installing multiple times... Suggestions?


I found the answer. uninstall B&W and then reinstall it in a directory path that has NO spaces.

like:
C:\bnw

but not:
C:\Program Files\bnw

patches should then work

[Wisehorn]

I've got a new problem. I installed the 1.2 patch, but now when I start, the splash screen is replaced by a small white square, Then ingame, alot of the graphics are corrupted, such as the intro scene with the displacement map and in-game trees etc. Any ideas? I have the latest Nvdia drivers, and have a GeForce 4 ti 4600 and a AMD XP 2500+. :banghead: Please help

[wiggle.e]

I've got a new problem. I installed the 1.2 patch, but now when I start, the splash screen is replaced by a small white square, Then ingame, alot of the graphics are corrupted, such as the intro scene with the displacement map and in-game trees etc. Any ideas? I have the latest Nvdia drivers, and have a GeForce 4 ti 4600 and a AMD XP 2500+. :banghead: Please help

(1) uninstall, defragment
(2) is windows fully patched?
(3) update direct x (i bet your using direct x 8.1)
(4) reinstall
(5) change the compatibility mode of runblack.exe

tell me if this works

[Brainwave]

I've got the same problem. Game starts, but when loading screen apears it shuts down to desktop.

I reinstalled my pc yesterday. Before reïnstall I could play the game, but autosave caused it to crash and I had to use the task manager to close it. I couldn't even go to the second level.

I tried:
- No patch
- Patch 1.10
- Patch 1.20 (1.30 is only for P5 glove edition, whatever that is)
- /NOINETCONN (http://eatech.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/eatech.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3684&p_created=1024894800&p_sid=XWnRMqJh&p_lva=3686&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzUmcF9wcm9kcz00NjgsMCZwX2NhdHM9NzM4LDAmcF9wdj0xLjQ2ODsyLnUwJnBfY3Y9MS43Mzg7Mi51MCZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1)
- Compatibility mode

Athlon 2500+
1 gb DDR-400
Asus A7N8X Deluxe - NForce 5.10 drivers
GF4 Ti 4200 128 mb - 77.72 drivers
WinXP SP2

The following messages appear in the computermanagement logs (don't know what's it called it in English)

Crappy translation from dutch error messages:
Description for event-ID (0) cannot be found in source (). The local computer possibly does not have the required register data or Dll-bulletin files to be able to reflect reports of an external computer. You can possibly use the link option /AUXSOURCE = to pick up this description, see Help and Support for details. The following data are part of the event: 7.

What's that /auxsource?

Crashed application: runblack.exe, version 1.0.0.1, crashed module: lhlogr.dll, version 1.0.0.1, crashed on: 0x0000a2f3
See Help and Support on http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp for more information.
This message only appears twice, in about 10 crashes.

I hope it can be solved, was just starting to like the game again.

Edit: Found another message which doesn't appear as an error:
Application, C:\Games\Lionhead Studios Ltd\Black & White\runblack.exe, has caused an error. The error has occurred on 01-07-2005 on 23:21:08:171. The generated exception is c0000005 on adres 0032A343 (LHLogR!OpenOrCreateRegistryKey)
This lhlogr is the same as the dll referred to in the error message above and the first message also reflects to an registry error.

[wiggle.e]

you can find most answers to black and white questions here:

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetblackandwhite/topic.asp?fid=1678&tid=1238371

[I can't help withaproblem]

:confused: :scratch: I have a problamo! :bawling: When i install b&w i select play now. :D Happy so far. Which is where my problem comes in. :banghead: The window comes on... :celebrate And then flashes off. :aol: Plz help! :necro:

[I can't help withaproblem]

I Done It!!!

[loony383]

i have a problem...
lets cut to the chase whenever i try to play b&w it comes up in a window but all around it it has flashing lines that occasionly go solid but the game gets up to where you have to choose your simbol but when you click the mouse it says there is a problem with RUNBLACK.EXE and closes the game :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[yoctobyte]

This is what I was about to post before:

I have a common problem without a common solution: The game crashes after the initial LIONHEAD window with the OPTIONS sub-menu on the menu

bar. I have tried the following (in correct order):

1) Installed V1.1 Patch
2) Installed V1.3 Patch after realising there was unofficial patches :p
3) Uninstalled V1.3 Patch - must have the P5 Glove for it to run!
4) Installed V1.2 Patch
5) Set to Windows 98 compatibility
6) Installed V1.3 Patch and P5dll.dll - but wait, it claims I have already installed this patch, even though I uninstalled it! Is this because it is

unofficial?
7) The TNT2 drivers have been downgraded, upgraded, regraded, supergraded, subgraded, nanograded, and all together screwed up (causing my

display to revert back to 640x480x4 [16 colour], and as a result, I now use an older driver)...
8) Restarted several times in between stuffing up drivers :p

I am running a PC with:
- Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
- nVidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro graphics card (don't laugh)


I know someone said earlier that if you have SP2, you're screwed. Hopefully this isn't the case.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Hopefully someone is still scanning this thread, as I realise the last post was a couple of weeks back.


Cheers to all who can help,
-- Yoctobyte


But, for some reason, the game now works like a charm, with the exception of a little lag! But I would still be interested on finding out why it works now, so, if anyone knows, I'd be grateful if they would tell!

The moral of the story is don't try to fix a problem after 2am, you'll only end up making it worse... unless you're incredibly lucky like I was today/yesterday :thumbsup:


Well, at least I can rest easy now...
-- Yoctobyte

[aflawinmyutopia]

Look, guys, i joined here just for this.
here's my situation, as if you all havent heard this one already.
I just got B&W Deluxe from GameStop with (aparrently, from what i see in the readme) v1.40!
I install it fine, but i notice one thing:
Wheni get to the EAsy Info thing, that tells you your system stats, it shows my processor speed or something as a negative number
i ignored it, andi started installing the game.... la la la... ah, here! It starts CI, but as soon as it starts, it shuts down with the "send Error Report" popup :confused: HELP :aol: my computer hates me!

EDIT: Wait, what's this P5 glove? i remeber reading about it in a readme.... Yeah, i run a WinXP with SP2, and have a NVidia GeForce FX 5200 with 6.14.10.4523 driver version (i'm pretty sure there is something better out... 77XX, or something) And i know B&W hates NVidia, but still Um, any other edits for me?...


EDIT: Ok, i went back to 1.2 (turns out i had 1.3, who'd've thunk it?), updated my graphics card, and said a million prayers. :screwed: i got it.... still nothing. same as before

[The Source]

Please somebody tell me where I can find Black & White 1.0 original (not cracked) runblack.exe? I need to patch my game.

[TracerBullet]

Hi guys,

I've also joined the board for this very problem, and it seems a lot of useful help has been given out already.

I have the following system specs:

Athlon 3200+ @ 2.2GHz
ASUS Radeon 9800XT 258MB running Omega 2.5.76 drivers
1GB DDR400 Dual Channel RAM
On-board AC'97 Audio (Gigabyte GA-7N400-L mobo)
DirectX 9.0c
MS IntelliMouse 4.0


My copy of Black & White is fresh installed, then patched to v1.2. It's set to Windows 2000 compatibility, and runs fine - except the game lags while the mouse is moving. I stop the mouse, the game runs fine, till I move it again. My mouse is connected using the normal USB connector, and running the newest IntelliPoint drivers.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :)

[pothered]

When you download a patch what do you do next.

[pothered]

I've downloaded patch v1.3 now instead of not working it says The application has failed to start because P5DLL.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem. I've Tried re-installing it and it doesn't work again. What do i do.

[pothered]

You could try running it in compatability mode...
How do you change the compatability mode.

[Enverex]

Right click the shortcut, click Properties, click the Compatability Tab and then set the compatability mode.

[pothered]

I've changed the combatability to 2000 but i can't find the v1.2 patch only the v1.3 and that doesn't work

[pothered]

:confused: :confused: :confused: I found the patch and downloaded it but it still doesn't work. I looked on requirements on the ea system infromation and it says cpu speed 333MHz and it says i have -1306MHz. This is a new computer I don't understand. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[pico_labs]

ill be a little more clear about my problem. in the tagret portion of the properties i put the command noinetconn, I updated the game to 1.3, i have it set to compatability mode for windows 2000 (and had it set to 98 as well), my computer has all system requirements for the game, and finally.. no hotfix was found with those set of numbers.. was there anything i missed?

[Nephus0]

Yea yea, u guys r gonna feel like idiots after i tell u this (I know I did when I first got patch v1.3) But that patch is NOT the patch that any of you want. The patch fixes problems just like v1.1, but it was specifically created to make your Black and White game compatable with the P5(check the patch README at http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/blackwhite/black_white_patch_v1.300.txt)

And if ur curious as to wtf a P5 is, check this out, http://www.videogamealliance.com/vga_catalog/product_detail.php/pid=91598~subid=4564/index.html

Yea, now don't u feel foolish? Oh, and if u don't know how to remove a patch, go here http://www.lionhead.com/bw/downloads.html and just download and execute the patch uninstaller. It should uninstall ALL B & W patches that you have on.

[RishiBoy]

New link for patch v1.20.

http://downloads.gamezone.com/demos/t7162.htm

[Mooo_25]

Same Problem Here. Followed in her same steps too.

AMD Athlon XP +2400
512 DDR
ATI Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR AND NVIDIA GeForce
in same box with ATI as primary display..........could two displays be a problem?
Anyway, mine doesn't even load the game, it just crashes back to desktop after splash screen. When it comes to uninstalling hotfixes, that is NOT recommended; and, even if i wanted to, i couldn't because it was part of SP2. In that case, i would have to reinstall windows xp fresh. Even then, it would have sp1 on it. Yes i have the Patch installed and everything..... Anyone with sp2 get this to run??? PLEASE help!!!! My little brother wants to play this game so bad.....otherwise, i would have left it in storage :p

Check the requirment of the game in the diagnostics when it autoloads. It should tell u if you can play it or not.

[Soccer4786]

I downloaded both patches and I got it to work. Sadly, one of the patches fixes the resource bug where you can repeatedly right click and get a lot of food or wood, is there any way to fix that?

[Soccer4786]

Wow, I haven't had any problems like that.

How do you get ride of how they fixed that one bug?

[gibbonz123]

hey guys, i just borrowed this game off a mate and installed it fine then it said it couldnt detect directx 7.0a or greater, but i have 9.0c :S so i tried playing the game and again it said you cannot play B&W without directx 7 or higher.....HELP?!? :confused: :scratch:

[Tarakona]

I tried to install Black & White on Windows XP, I changed the game to the compatibility mode Windows 98/ME. The logo starts, but then an error shows:
AppName: runblack.exe AppVer: 1.0.0.1 ModName: aclayers.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 00034f90

What is wrong?

I also tried to install the patch v1.2, but it didn't work because something was wrong.

May I ever play Black and White again? I thought it was so fun playing it on our old computer.

[menon123]

Someone help please

I bought the black and white 2 game and I cant rotate, every other control works perfectly, but my mouse doesnt have a middle button so i tried changing the controls for the kepboard and its not working, everything else is perfect please help someone!!!!!!

[Black Hawk]

You rotate with "Z" and "X".

[menon123]

You rotate with "Z" and "X".

Hi there

I tried that too but its not working, game not responding to any keyboard controls

[bigshiny]

HI, can someone help me i just reinstalled xp and now black and white wont work i have everything up to date and patch 1.2, i can install perfect but my problem is when i try to run it all that comes up is a window with lionhead at the top and options and then it crashs back to xp. Also changed.Compatibility.
Intel 845EBG2 Motherboard 533Mhz
2 GHz Pentium 4 CPU
256 DDR RAM
ATI Radeon 7000

[Tarakona]

Please, please, please, can't somebody help me?

I use Windows XP Home Edition. Compatibility:
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3GHz
1024MB RAM
240 DDR RAM
128 DDR ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

I tried to install Black & White on Windows XP, I changed the game to the compatibility mode Windows 98/ME. The logo starts, but then an error shows: Runblack.exe is having a problem because of something (roughly translated from swedish) and couldn't load the game.

What is happening? What am I doing wrong? Please just answer. I feel like I need comfort because of this. My poor Black & White game! :bawling:

[Alistair]

Hi guys,

I've also joined the board for this very problem, and it seems a lot of useful help has been given out already.

I have the following system specs:

Athlon 3200+ @ 2.2GHz
ASUS Radeon 9800XT 258MB running Omega 2.5.76 drivers
1GB DDR400 Dual Channel RAM
On-board AC'97 Audio (Gigabyte GA-7N400-L mobo)
DirectX 9.0c
MS IntelliMouse 4.0


My copy of Black & White is fresh installed, then patched to v1.2. It's set to Windows 2000 compatibility, and runs fine - except the game lags while the mouse is moving. I stop the mouse, the game runs fine, till I move it again. My mouse is connected using the normal USB connector, and running the newest IntelliPoint drivers.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :)

Got the exact same problem as this. Logitech Mx700 on USB.
Anyone found a solution?

[Dark Kai]

Hi is this thread still alive??

I still couldn't install B&W on my WinXP machine.
I always get the "This build of CDCode is for Black and White. Yhis is an invalid build of CDCode. Please fill out the EReg Config form to obtain calid CDCode build" message when I run the setup.exe.
I tried changing the setup.exe compatibility to run under win98 and still hit the same error. What am I doint wrong??

[black phoenix]

i got black and white, but it wonk work propely, i got patches 1.1,1.2 and 1.3,
and the latest drivers for my grapix card, and it still wont work, what happns is the game runs, but the trees and stuff are streched and the textrues strech and go back to normal randomly, its unplayable, the specs for my pc are:
windows xp
Nvidia geforce fx 5200 128 mb
AMD sempron 1.60 GHz prosesor
256Mb R.A.M.

some one please help

[Sledgehammer70]

Wow B&W sounds to have more issues than any game I have seen!

Black and White Game on Windows XP? ( Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 )
Thread Started By: Dexter


97,709

97,709 hits on this one topic... holy Crap! talk about issues!

[black phoenix]

does anyone know how to fix it, apart from buying creature isle, oh and if it makes a diforence its the sold out version of black and white

[black phoenix]

ok i just found out if you put the game to minimum requaments, it still does it but not as much

[black phoenix]

fixed it, to fix it i had to remove my grapix card

[Enverex]

... so... how can you see anything?

[black phoenix]

most mouther boards have an in bilt grapix chip, if thay dont youve been riped off

[Enverex]

Erm, "some" do, any decent boards don't. The performance of the inbuilt chips are very, very poor.

[black phoenix]

thay all have inbuilt ones, and you can add ram to them like mine its 128mb and it runs sims 2 at maximum quilety

[Enverex]

No, they don't, and no, you normally can't add RAM to them and why in gods name are you writing like that?

[black phoenix]

you can add ram to them from the bios, i should know because i added 128mb of ram to the chip, thay ALL have bilt in ones, because if thay didnt you would not be able to see anything and when you buy a motherboard you dont get a graphics with them.and befor you start whining about "not all of them have chips":
1) have a look at all the motherboards you find ther will be a graphics chip
2) my dad works with comuters and EVERY motherboard i have seen has a graphics chip

[Enverex]

Can someone please back me up before I am forced to beat this retard to death with his own shoes?

[black phoenix]

look thay do other wise how would thay work, use some logic, or are you that stupid?

[_iOn_]

Can someone please back me up before I am forced to beat this retard to death with his own shoes?

Of course you're right...

Ok now, if that can help, I found a way to get rid of the graphic issues I had in B&W (blinking lines & streched/moving textures and so on)...I only had to disable the AGP fast write option on my motherboard, and now everything works fine.

If you don't know how to do this, just see your mother board's user guide or ask google... that's not that hard.
Don't worry, turning off this options should not affect your framerate in games a noticeable way...

Good game.

[black phoenix]

look dumbass thay all have graphics chips and you can add ram to them in the bios, its usaly under 'advance chipset', oh and if you do what that, you skrew up, X2, the sims 2,Painkiller, halo custom editon and the editors, unreal 2004 and star wars republic commando

[_iOn_]

look dumbass thay all have graphics chips and you can add ram to them in the bios, its usaly under 'advance chipset'

No they don't, get a brain...

http://media.ucsc.edu/graphics/VGA.jpg
http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/Asus-A7N8X-E-Dlx-connectors.jpg

Ok, now tell me how you plug this standard VGA connector to this motherboard...

[black phoenix]

lol, thats from a media sepecalist, you can tell from the extra 3 small ports, thay use the usb, and you need an adaptor

[_iOn_]

Ok gimme your shoes...

[black phoenix]

ha ha, you been beaten fool, fool i say

[ryuanesha]

it takes to long to keep posting messages so im me, aim undeadryua.....my prob is and error after the second lionhead thing with the lights passes,some cannot pl somthing 0x715a31db somthing 0xeaoe3710

[ryuanesha]

the instruction at 0x715a2f5c referenced memory at 0x0671fd4. this memory could not be found.

[black phoenix]

ok i just whanna say sorry to the people about themother board thing ok

[Enverex]

ok i just whanna say sorry to the people about themother board thing ok

Not gonna cut it.

[Black Hawk]

Ok, move on.

[_iOn_]

ok i just whanna say sorry to the people about themother board thing ok

OMG were you serious about the USB thing ???

Anyway, I'd just like to say it again, you don't need to remove your graphic card or anything to get rid of the graphic issues in B&W, just

DISABLE AGP FAST WRITE OPTION in your mother board settings (or your graphic card settings if you can).

Sorry to say it again, but I didn't find this thing anywhere in the topic, and this might help some people...

[black phoenix]

no i wasnt serious,

[A|ucard]

hi guys,
yeah so i got black and white for a fiver in hmv today and installed it all fine then i tried to play it. first it would start to load then just disapear then i changed compatability to windows 95 then it would start to load disapear and come up with an runblack.exe error box so i installed path v1.2 and tried to play now it starts to go into a lionhead window and then dispears..... any ideas?
A|lucard. :mad:

[black phoenix]

yes chage compatabilty mode to 2000, then it works

[A|ucard]

yes chage compatabilty mode to 2000, then it works
erm no it doesnt...

[ryuanesha]

the instruction at 0x715a2f5c referenced memory at 0x0671fd4. this memory could not be found. no one likes to answor me *runs to a corner to cry* :eek3: I KILLED the thread again!
:bawling:

[sauron242]

Hello everyone. I'm kinda new to this particular board but I have read and re-read this entire thread many times in an attempt to do the same as all of you......successfully run "Black & White" on a windows xp pc.

System Information:

Processor: AMD64 2800+
Memory: 2x512 DDR 400 (Kingston)
OS: Windows XP Professional w/ SP2, all updates from windowsupdate.
Vid Card: GeForce FX 5200 128mb DDR, 8x AGP
Motherboard: MSI K8T-NeoFSR
Sound: SBLive! 5.1 pci
Video Drivers: (Original) NVIDIA N-Force drivers version 81.92
DirectX - 9.0c

The original problem I was having was the same that many of you have been complaining about. Choppy graphics, weird lines, video artifacts, both in cut scenes and in the game itself. I tried many of the solutions listed in this forum, and nothing worked. To give you all a quick overview, this is what I have tried so far:

1) uninstalling/reinstalling the game, including wiping out all directories and registry entries

2) running dxdiag tests, re-installing/upgrading directx
3) re-installing/updating VIA hyperion pro drivers, including the AGP driver
4) re-installing/updating AMD64 processor drivers
5) updating video drivers from nvidia.com
6) Disabling agp fast write in bios
7) using tweaked/altered versions of nvidia drivers (coolbits)
8) DOWNGRADING drivers to pre 77.xx versions (catastrophe - system would not VISUALLY boot in any mode, SAFE or otherwise - I was forced to install an old PCI video adapter to get back into it.)

After that last step, my system would not visually boot at all if the AGP vid card was installed. I had to have ONLY the pci video card installed if I wanted to get to a desktop. Uninstalling the downgraded Nvidia drivers had no effect. Attempts to install upgraded nvidia drivers resulted in the setup program telling me, of course, that it did not detect any nvidia products.

What was left to do except the most dreaded of options: The system repair routine using the original install CD.

OVERVIEW:
The XP pro software on my system was installed using a somewhat-dated corporate edition CD. Pre-SP1 edition.

The system was shut down to power off and I re-installed my GeForce card and set bios options for high performance (the way it was originally, 128mb paging, fast writes, and all). The system was powered on and allowed to boot from the CD, then completed the windows repair routine.

Immediately after the repair routine and restart, I was again able to get to a windows desktop. At that point I immediately ran the SP2 upgrade (windows xp SP2 standalone IT download) successfully (note: no internet connection, firewall, or antivirus software running while doing so).

After restart, I reconnected to the internet, went to windows update, and proceeded to download every update available, with the exception of the "newer" nvidia drivers provided by microsoft in their updated drivers section.

The next step was to update my sound drivers, which was easily done with a quick visit to www.creativelabs.com.

After all this was completed, I checked the drivers for the video card. They were simple, original Microsoft GeForce FX 5200 drivers. I tried Black & White. All video problems were gone. At that point I quit the game and set a system restore point, then went back to windowsupdate and downloaded and installed the newer Microsoft-sponsored Nvida driver and restarted the PC.
Again, the game worked. Flawlessly. This is WITH AGP fast write turned on, 128mb shared system memory, the whole bit.

Conclusion: If you are using a downloaded driver pack from NVIDIA, this is probably the nature of your problem. I would suggest the following steps in order to install the default microsoft drivers to get the game to work:

1) Set a system restore point!

2) Go to add/remove programs in the control panel and uninstall the nvidia driver pack that you currently have installed. At the END of the uninstallation, DO NOT allow the computer to restart. Tell it you will restart later.

3) Go to the device manager (in the control panel, double click the "system" icon, select the "Hardware" tab, click the "Device Manager" button). In the device manager, click the plus sign next to the line that reads "Display adapters". RIGHT CLICK the listed video adapter, and select "properties".

4) In the video adapter properties window, select the "Driver" tab, and press the "Update Driver" button.

5) This should bring up the Hardware Update wizard window. Select "No, not this time" in the options at the botton of that window, then click "Next".

6) On the next screen, select "Install from a list or a specfic location (Advanced)" and click next.

7) On the next screen, select "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install"
, the click next.

8) The next screen that comes up should be the driver selection screen. Make sure that the "Show compatible hardware" option is checked. In the selection window below, look for a listing that reads "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation)". Select that listing, then click next. Allow the system to install the drivers, click "Finish", then close the video device properties window. At that point the system will want to restart. Let it.

When the system comes back up, it should come up normally and will have the default Microsoft version of the nvidia drivers installed. The game should run at this point. If you wish, you may go to windowsupdate.com and get the UPDATED Microsoft nvidia drivers....they seem to work just as well.

If you are dealing with a VIA chipset based system, you may also want to go to www.viaarena.com, drivers section, and download and install the latest via hyperion pro chipset drivers, as well as the USB 1.1 and 2.0 filter drivers. If you are fortunate enough to own an AMD64, you may also want to install/update the AMD64 processor driver, available from www.amd.com.

NOTE: The version of Black & White I have installed has been updated to version 1.2, and it is running successfully with NO compatibility options set.

Good luck everybody.

-Eric Hayes (PC Tech, Advanced Technical Solutions)
ehayes2003@hotmail.com

[sauron242]

Several of you also having a problem with USB mice in the game? I also had this same problem. As one of the posts earlier mentioned, turning off pointer acceleration will help this issue. However, some people do not have that option, depending on which mouse they have. There should be another option though, called "enhance pointer precision". Turn this, and any other enabled pointer options (snap to, pointer trails, etc) off and the mouse should function normally within the game.

-Eric Hayes (PC Tech, Advanced Technical Solutions)
ehayes2003@hotmail.com

[freighter0]

the side effect to this fix is that if you do this the game will run (with no artifacts) slower (on my comp it does, but at least its playable)

run dxdiag

goto [Display] tab
click the Disable next to AGP Texture Acceleration

PS: Make sure you reenable it before playing anything else

[Ebiltoblerone]

Hello; I've just registered recently after viewing the information on this thread. I have the same problem with Black and White on Windows XP. Basically I'll click on it, The logo will pop up, and then it will just disappear like nothing ever happened. So, I downloaded the Patch thing, v1.20 or whatever...I set the compatability to Windows 98, did the same with the B&W shortcut, and got ready to play, thinking that my troubles would be over...But of course, nothing happened.
Well, no, not true. I clicked the shortcut, and then this tiny, miniscule white box appears in the center of my screen. A moment passes and it disappears, then a moment passes and a box pops up on my screen for about seven seconds before disappearing.
That's it.
I am NOT smart with computers at ALL, I dont know my specs or anything, and all I know is that B&W worked when I didnt have XP...But now it wont.
Can anyone help me? I'm really hoping to get this working soon, but I havent been successful in any of my attempts.
And I've read all of the pages, but if I missed a few posts with some information, please dont yell at me ^^; I'm human.

[ryuanesha]

When I try to install any of the patches i get an error box titled severe and says "You must first install Black &White to run this patch" even though it is installed. I tried changing it to win 98 compatibilty and putting in the default black and white directory with the other files. Please help me, I dont know what to do.
this thread is prolly dead but just incase people havnt said the cure for this problem and i need to know

[PorcelainRose]

I have a problem with my game as well. I installed it on my windows XP and the game runs great without any problems... that is, until the text at the bottom begins to appear while someone is talking. The text can not be read because it is very choppy and does not make any sense. Then when I try and leave the game or go to the options menu all of the text on the menu is messed up as well.
I used to play the game on my windows 98 and I never had this problem. Only now after I installed it on my XP. And I have uninstalled and reinstalled many times.
I cannot find the solution to the problem anywhere. Please help.

[breizhbugs]

Hi guys,

Just to say that i run on Win2k (bi athlon 2600+, 1024Mo RAM, Geforce 3) with patch 1.1 and the game crash after the splash screen (either silently or with a "... adresse memory cant be 'read' or 'written'" (not always the same!)
BUT i noticed that the game runs when i have an internet explorer windows open in the background :thumbsup: .

Hope this help...
(but having graphic bug when i try to put graphic detail to high :mean: )

[Broli]

i know this problem has been posted before but ( shows the b&w symbol stuff then just cuts out) ive tried back wards compact on 200 and 98 and 95 and i just get the run.exe error thingy ive tried patches 1.1 1.2 and 1.3 nothing has helped BUT when i first installed the game and ran it the first time it ran fine! so wtf?!?!?! ive ttried reinstalling it till my fingers bled please help me cos im beating my children every night just for sum1 to take it out on and now little timmy cant walk

[Kasten]

B&W get about 20fps looking at the ground and about 8 or so when completly zoomed out. I put graphics on lowest and res at 640x480 and get the same fps. I've tried compatibly mode too. Is there a fix out for this?
I'm running ver. 1.2
My pc specs are:
CPU: AMD XP 2600 Barton @ 1.9GHZ
RAM: 1GB of ddr333
Graphics card: Geforce 6800 128MB running 9.1.4.8 drivers tweaked by tweaks r us
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-7S748: North Bridge: SiS 748
OS: XP-PRO SP2
Directx: Directx 9.0c (Aug 2006)

[Ertrael]

Hi, I just recently pulled the game back out and intalled on my XP system, I've got the same problem as this...When it autosaves or manual save this happens! I have current drivers and patch v1.20. but still to my frustration!

It's really bugging me and would much much appreciate if anybody has remedied this??

Cheers,
Daz.

Same problem for me as above one. Does anyone have exact problem or maybe someone fixed it and want to share his experience?
I never got any problems with graphics or so in B&W. I started playing game on patch 1.20. I also doubt if there is any need to change compatibility or remove any hotfix, cause I was playing this game for many hours without any problem. And then, just like it, game started to crashing when I tried to save it. No matter automatic or manually. Any ideas what to do?

[BubbaDaSlug]

Ok, I am also having issues with Black & White (gee what a surprise, right?), and I have looked through the topic and so far have not been able to find this question from someone else. If I just missed it, tell me which post to look at if you don't mind please.
Black & White works perfectly fine most of the time, but occasionally after about 5-10 minutes of play it will do the messed up graphics thing where objects dissapear and textures are stretched all over the place. This only happens, I would say about 1 out of every 3-4 times I try and play.
Also, if I minimize the game, even for a second, it will go into the same messed up graphics mode when I restore the game.This happens every time I minimize the game...
I have really been looking hard and trying as many options as I can, but so far no luck.

[primesuspect]

sounds like your video card is dying or overheating.

[BubbaDaSlug]

Wow that would suck, but I do not think it is that because I play a lot of games on my computer and I end up minimizing a lot and no other game does this. Most of my games have newer graphics, but thats the only main difference that I can think of.
Plus I just got my computer less than 6 months ago, so I hope it isnt having problems already...

[Komodin]

Note: My english really sucks because im latin, you know..

Well... I really do hate posting in old threads, but I REALLY wanna play B&W =(.

This is the problem: I run runblack.exe ... Black screen for at least 20 seconds.. Black and white logo for not even 1 second (it flashes). Black screen again.
In the first cinematic (with all those dots..balls..whatever) i can see some lines bothering all around..
Cinematic. LINES EVERYWHERE OMFG... , psicodelic colours everywhere..

Uhmm. I tryied to update but my runblack.exe is so damn cracked that i can't update because of that. I have already tryied with the compatibility tricks but nothing.

My PC:

Windows XP Home edition
nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000
256 RAM

Thank you indeed.
Matías
Buenos aires, argentina :).

[Komodin]

Please help me... If you can solve my problem i'll join to folding :3!!

[Komodin]

Please HELP. A month and a half have passed and I have no response... Please help :(.

Matías.

[xerxez]

This game is seriously lagging with GeForce FX 5200 on Windows XP. I've installed the latest forceware & drivers, set game detail to lowest, set up 3D settings for best performance and other compatibility tune ins but still... Any suggestions?

[Shintsu]

I took the effort to register to say...

SCREW THIS! This game sucks! I can't believe how much these guys at EA and Lionhead suck. They're useless pricks. This POS game lags and jerks on my PC, whereas Half Life 2 will run at maxed out resolution very smoothly. Not only that, It looks horrible, I can't play it 1600 x 1200. I have to turn on EVERY compatibility option and put it to 98/ME to make it work.

I can play B&W2, which I don't think is as fun and it looks better and runs fine. Wtf? I'll save you all the time, either buy an old cheapy PC to play old junk games like this on, buy B&W2, or don't play any B&W games, they're not that awesome. I've spent 3 hours trying to figure out how to make this game work, and if my P4 3 GHz, MSI 6600 GT, 1 GB of memory, and all my other good components can't play this, it's a waste.

You know, a lot of you may have problems because you're cheap asses and don't buy some damn new graphics cards! God, who still uses a FX or even Geforce 1-4 card? Buy at least a 6x Nvidia or a 9x ATI. God you people are cheap! If you're trying to make an old school gaming rig, that may be fine but this game is on the fine line between old junk (leaning towards junk) and too new for an old pc.

[primesuspect]

:wtf:

[Dexter]

I took the effort to register to say...



So you took the effort to register just so you could thread-crap, insult people, and be a jerk. Wow, thanks for your contribution to this long running thread. :thumbsup:


Dexter...

[monster]

I installed black and white and then i installed the patch 1.1 and 1.2. and when 1.2 finished installing i tried to start the game and when it did this little white box appeared and then it wouldnt start up. please help.:(

[squall_leonhart]

Anytime you have to disable Fastwrites, it is an indicator of an incompatibility between the Videocard and the Mainboard, VIA and SiS boards are well known to have issues with Geforce cards and usually need this.

Ok, heres how to get it running.

1. Download and install the Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit, this installs a large library of automated game fixes, that are activated upon program launch.

The Application Compatibility Toolkit from Microsoft. It will automatically apply fixes to hundreds of programs to enable them to run under XP. You can find it in the \Support\Tools directory of the XP CD, though a much better bet is to download it from www . microsoft . com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx because newer versions are always being made available online.2. make sure the disk is unscratched, the protection on these disks is a total ass to get past when the disk is scratched and will cause crashes at start.

3. Install the 1.2 or 1.3 patch, it doesn't matter whether you have the G5 or not, 1.3 still has compatibility fixes over 1.2.

4. Set to Windows 2000 compatibility mode, or NT4 SP5 compatibility mode.

5. Adjust black and white to use the same Resolution as the desktop, or the desktop to that of black and white.

6. in the compatibility tab, disable theming services, this will help somewhat.

i have played Black and white on my 5900XT without crashes using Forceware 70+, i also have the forementioned hotfix's installed and they do not cause me issues.

if black and white is unreasonably slow, disable the AGP Texture acceleration (only necessary on newer drivers)

[DAEmonBane]

Hey all. So like most others I have B&W (deluxe)and win XP. I cannot get it to work so i found my way here, although i was already guessing that i needed a patch. Ive downloaded the v1.2 patch for B&W but when I try to open it for septup it says it has encountered a problem and needs to close. I assumed that it was because the file was corrupt, but i have downloaded the same patch from three different locations and all of them do the same. I even tried running the patch on a different machine and it still does the same thing, so any assistance that anyone can give me would be appreciated.

[squall_leonhart]

try running the patch in Win 2k compatibility

[DAEmonBane]

Ive tried compatibilty, but... no go. I have a zipped copy of the file as well as an unzipped, both aquired from different locations. When I try to open the zipped copy winrar diagnostics says, "unexpected end of archive" "the archive is either in unknown format or damaged" and then "Cannot execute C:\documen~1\hp_adm~1\locals~1\temp\rar$ex00.579\black_and_white_patch_v1_20.exe"

[squall_leonhart]

use a download manager to redownload it. the file is corrupted.

[DAEmonBane]

ok. ill try gamespot

[DCHunter]

ok so i have read through this forum top to bottom and i think ive tried everything mentioned. and i still get an error when i try to run BW. Everything installs properly, but when i try to run it i get 2 errors. They essentialy same the same thing but i will put both in this post.
~first one that come up says:
"A required .DLL file, DINPUT.DLL, was not found"
~after you click ok it goes to this error
"The application or DLL C:\windows\system32\DINPUT.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette."
i have tried running the patch no effect, and i have changed the compatibility mode and i get the same erors everytime. please HELP i miss my BW :(

[squall_leonhart]

and let me guess, you haven't thought to download dinput.dll from one of the many DLL download sites and place it in windows\system32.

though it should be there anyway, so the fact it isn't is worrying.

[DCHunter]

ive checked and th DINPUT.DLL file is there. It may not be in directory that its looking in. If anyone has any other suggestions

[squall_leonhart]

ive checked and th DINPUT.DLL file is there. It may not be in directory that its looking in. If anyone has any other suggestions

well, as to the other message, it now leads me to believe that the file is corrupted.

you will need to expand the original version from the XP CD

[DCHunter]

umm i dont have an XP cd. (wink) i shoulkd be able to get that from a DLL site wouldnt i?

[Gate28]

where did you get your computer? was it a gift from a friend or from work?

[DCHunter]

I Got it from a friend. and i have recently aquired a XP pro cd, formated the drive so it was wiped clean, and reinstalled XP and im still getting the same error. I have also tried it on my wifes computer that uses XP pro and it loaded No problem its just the computer doesnt have the proccessor to run it smoothly. just stutters. ive even gone as far as to take the file it says its missing and coppied it from the computer it works on to mine and no such luck.