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crackityjones
18 Jun 2003, 3:31am
Make your predictions

The first game was hella cool, will the second one trump it?

:crosses fingers:

Coaster
18 Jun 2003, 4:01am
I sure as hell hope so crackityjones, the first one is up there with Half Life, GTA3 Vice City and Mafia in terms of what it has done for games.

The game gave me goose-pimples, the storyline was electrifying, I’ll be crossing my fingers with you bud :)

Be sure to check out any news and previews here at Icrontic when it arrives :)

drowd
18 Jun 2003, 5:56am
i really really hope it will be swell. the first one is still probably one of the best games of all time in my opinion and i cant wait for the second to top it off. i know a lot of folks that were at E3 were skeptical because it didnt have a very strong presence. just the "fall of max payne" poster that i beleive is up at the mp2 website. anyway, i have no doubts that it will be one of the best sequels ever . . .

PyobliE
18 Jun 2003, 12:34pm
Max Payne is the best game I have ever player on PC, just pipped Half Life in my oppinion. Really cant wait for a sequel.... Infact I might play the origional now, If i can find it...

Coaster
18 Jun 2003, 1:22pm
Infact I might play the origional now, If i can find it...


GRRR! You do know I am going to have to play it now you have put that idea into my head :p

/me installs Max Payne

[edit - but never did re-play it]

Enverex
18 Jun 2003, 1:39pm
er........ what is going to happen in the second one? Are they going to kill some other realative or something? Can't really think of any way they can carry on.......

NS

PyobliE
18 Jun 2003, 1:42pm
Although the story was good.... Who cares!! Lemmie shoot more people with bullet time!

/me grabs machine gun, jumps, rolls, slows down time and shoots the living 'doobie-whatsits' outta everything in site !

versello
18 Jun 2003, 1:47pm
Some people like the storyline, some people don't...

I loved it however.

Enverex
18 Jun 2003, 2:02pm
Have to admit I liked the story. Liked the comic style aproach and Max's over the top poetic style scene introductions. Added a unique feel to the game, made it more interesting.

NS

xDeluxex
18 Jun 2003, 3:14pm
the game was really good and im sure the second one will be alot better... for me the low point of the game was when he was drugged and walking aroudn in the dark following paths of blood... that really gave me a headache... :confused:

PyobliE
18 Jun 2003, 3:36pm
Originally posted by xDeluxex
... for me the low point of the game was when he was drugged and walking aroudn in the dark following paths of blood... that really gave me a headache... :confused:

YEA! I had totally forgotten about that, was really weird, fair enough he was drugged or whatever, and they wanted us to feel his confusion, but it was feally frustrating. Esp when you could see the exit, and fell just before you got there.

drowd
18 Jun 2003, 7:16pm
yeah the dream sequences were really tough. my girlfriend ALMOST beat it without any help, but she did need some assistance in the second dream sequence and at the very end where there are the two guys with the grenade launchers at the end of the long, high hallway. i will also admit that i did enjoy the storyline. if you ever want some good laughs, check out the penny arcade comic on max payne, its hilarious and so so true . . .

Enverex
18 Jun 2003, 7:18pm
Was this part of it?

<img src="http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?funny=maxmad">
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drowd
18 Jun 2003, 7:37pm
yeah, although i dont remember the "i need a poo" thing being there. i will try to find it . . .

Enverex
18 Jun 2003, 7:39pm
You do have to admit he looks constipated in that picture :p

NS

drowd
18 Jun 2003, 7:39pm
k, i found it. i tried to go edit my original message, but it wouldnt let me attach an image . . .

drowd
24 Jun 2003, 11:34pm
wow, the first screenshots of max payne 2 are finally showing up. i think it looks incredible. they really did a good job on the engine . . .

drowd
24 Jun 2003, 11:34pm
second image . . .

dydx
24 Jun 2003, 11:37pm
Looks pretty realistic. Cant wait till it comes out.


mD

FormFactor
29 Jun 2003, 9:19am
I too LOVED the original... That whole dark New York junkie underground feel of it was just a superbly created atmosphere!!

I personally didnt like the comic book sequences between scenes, but then again I have never been a fan of comic books. And they were definately tollerable.

Those new screenys are lookin sweet, I dont however like Paynes new look. He looks too old in those pics. I mean whose that supposed to be Charles Bronson. They really should use his old look...more of a Bruce Willision Die Hard.

d@rker
30 Jun 2003, 2:18am
the first max payne was very enjoyable experience and it was something new in the way of presenting ,developing and finishing a story .
i think the comic book sequences with payne's narration gave a more dramatic feeling than if it was ingame/fmv cutscenes .

screenshots don't say a lot ,we need in game footage a la HL2 .maybe next E3 ?

Ninja-Kreon2
30 Jun 2003, 2:52am
I love the expressionless face on the guy standing nearby in the first pic. It's like he sees gun fights all the time :D

And thank god they got rid of the look of Payne's face from the first one.. That was the single bad thing about that game :D

drowd
30 Jun 2003, 5:49am
"oh god, you killed my family. and on top of that, i am constipated like you would not believe."

that face? :p

Ninja-Kreon2
30 Jun 2003, 12:17pm
Originally posted by drowd
"oh god, you killed my family. and on top of that, i am constipated like you would not believe."

that face? :p



Yeah :D

PyobliE
2 Jul 2003, 4:18pm
Looks nice, they def in game screenies? and not just the cut scenes? Im excied if thats in game, looks really good. Might be a stupid question - The sequel will have bullet time right?

Epyon202
6 Jul 2003, 7:26pm
it has to have bullet time, it wont be max payne without bullet time right?

Enverex
6 Jul 2003, 7:29pm
Oh no, theyve ruined it! I loved the stupid expressions! Plus he looks WAY too old, is it like 20 years on or something? He doesnt look cool anymore.....

NS

Epyon202
6 Jul 2003, 7:32pm
hm, your right. But the wierd expressions scared me :D

Ninja-Kreon2
6 Jul 2003, 8:34pm
Originally posted by NightShade737
Oh no, theyve ruined it! I loved the stupid expressions! Plus he looks WAY too old, is it like 20 years on or something? He doesnt look cool anymore.....

NS

They're story excuse will probably be that he had to have time to get through all the killing and the fact of losing his wife. Eventually he got over it and remarried or something.

Epyon202
6 Jul 2003, 11:21pm
what ever happend in the end of max payne, i think i beat it but not sure can anyone tell me the ending? my max payne cd is messed up or something so i cant play it.

drowd
7 Jul 2003, 10:52am
I read that they will indeed have bullet time for this one. in addition, despite the fact that he looks a bit older in these screenies, it takes place one year after the first one ended. supposedly, he has a romantic interest that gets tied up in the story, so they are gonna try to play that angle into the plot as well. as for the ending, i think we have to look to the opening movie to see what happened. over the police intercoms, you hear them say something about "Officer in danger! Officer in danger!" Correct me if i am wrong, but i dont believe there were any more cops at the scene of the crime, so my assumption is that the officer they were referring to was good ol' max. i guess they finally understood WHY you had to go on a balls-to-the-wall killing spree all over the city, and that was, you know, cool with them. anyway, long story short, they were on there way there to protect max, only to arrive and realize that max had already pretty much mopped up . . .

Enverex
7 Jul 2003, 12:47pm
Max and his expressions......

NS

versello
14 Jul 2003, 1:06am
Originally posted by Epyon202
what ever happend in the end of max payne, i think i beat it but not sure can anyone tell me the ending? my max payne cd is messed up or something so i cant play it.

I vaguely remember him being on the top of a building at the end*I think*... which brings you back to the introduction when he recalled all the events that took place *I think*

Damn this is what I get for staying up 'til 5am playing games on weekends two years ago.

Black Hawk
14 Jul 2003, 1:09am
At the end he shoots down a helicopter with the president of the company inside. Actually he shots down some poles which hit the helicopter and the helicopter falls exploding.

Coaster
14 Jul 2003, 4:22am
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii remember now.....................

Might just play it all over again

/me installs MaxPayne, and this time I will play it :D

PyobliE
14 Jul 2003, 1:45pm
How good would Max Payne multiplayer have been !? We can only dream....

Although the bullet time would have been a bit annoying multiplayer - If one person used it, everyone elses game would slow down till he had finnished! heh...

Komete
24 Jul 2003, 1:08pm
Those pics are awsome. Are there any pics of in game play?

drowd
24 Jul 2003, 2:19pm
i imagine those pics are pretty close to how it will look in game. if you remember the last one, they used the engine for rendering everything and nothing was pre-rendered. and as far as max payne multiplayer, the question we keep coming back to, is how to effectively make max payne multiplayer. and it seems as though there isnt really a good way. the two ways we could come up with, are for everyone to go into bullet-time when one person uses it and to get the game out of sync so that when you use it the game goes on and the person that uses the least bullet-time would essentially finish first. there are problems with both ways really. if everyone goes into bullet time, its gonna be real annoying if you are just walking down a hallway and you have to go all slow. in addition, whenever stuff is slowing down and you didnt do it, you are all gonna freak out and look everywhere to make sure no one is about to tag you. with the other way, if you dont use bullet time, and someone else does, you could have already cleared the room, but since the other person had already gone into bullet time, you will still be there and essentially you could die even if you escaped danger. man, complicated!!!

drowd
13 Aug 2003, 4:19pm
here are a bunch more screenshots of max payne 2 from gamespot

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/maxpayne2/screenindex.html

drowd
14 Sep 2003, 12:15am
aight guys, we finally got a movie. check this out. i seriously almost started crying when i first heard the revised theme. ok, just kidding, not really. ok, fine, i did, i am a little girl, what can i say. anyway, here is the linky . . .

http://pcmovies.ign.com/pc/video/maxpayne2_091203_001.mov

drowd
14 Sep 2003, 12:35am
ok, i just found a better link that is at 720x480 res from the actual mp2 website

http://www.rockstargames.com/maxpayne2/trailer/MaxPayne2_trailer1_720x480.zip

Coaster
14 Sep 2003, 12:40am
downloading............ :D

This and HL2, can't wait........

FormFactor
22 Sep 2003, 6:59am
yes we should have no trouble staying entertained this winter :D


Good thing too, cause I hear its going to be a COLD one.

drowd
16 Oct 2003, 7:12am
so . . .

i just picked up max payne 2 at best buy. and so far its great. they really stayed true to the originality of first one, but changed what they could about this one. not to mention, the havok engine is unbelievable. i cant wait for some of the cool mods and other games that will come out of this one.

also, you will be able to get it at best buy for a killer deal this sunday. check out hot deals for more details . . .

EDIT:// here is the link to the full details on how you can get mp2 super cheap from best buy.

http://www.icronticforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2755

Coaster
17 Oct 2003, 4:52am
wohhhh!

Sorry was just playing Max Payne 2

....talking of which, I gotta get past that dam level :D

BobyJo
17 Oct 2003, 4:26pm
The wife picked up a copy of MaxPayne2 for me last evening.
I have played it some, really about the same game play as the original.
I am wondering if the console activation is still available?
I have placed the same wording in the command line, but the console does not come up, so -developer is not right.
Would anyone out there know what the secret is?

drowd
17 Oct 2003, 10:55pm
yeah, it werks
type this into the target
-developerkeys -screenshot
that allows you to change through the different models by hitting page up and page down when you load a saved game. screenshots with F10. and it frees F3 to various camera modes in game play. anyway, there are some VERY revealing models of little miss mona if you cycle through these . . .

BobyJo
17 Oct 2003, 11:52pm
How about the cheat codes? I used to type in -developer and some cheat codes was available. I can't get this to work at all. Do you know what the key is now. Thanks BJ

Komete
17 Oct 2003, 11:57pm
Sweet game so far!

Stalker
18 Oct 2003, 12:18am
is someone writign a review for this game yet?

TheBaron
18 Oct 2003, 12:59am
that game was ridiculously good. not extremely long or challenging, but a lot of fun. now for harder difficulties :-D

drowd
18 Oct 2003, 8:39am
yeah, coaster has just put up the first review up at ICG, but all of the reviewer are writing a review for it. thats one of our goals, is for the big games, we want everyone to review it. anyway, the game IS really good, i am a little more than halfway through it and its been superb so far . . .

Enverex
20 Oct 2003, 3:23pm
Too short to be honest, but still quite good.

Nice ending music.

NS

RMF
21 Oct 2003, 12:08am
What's up with the way that Max runs now? He looks like a freak. He moves like he's concealing some kind of but plug underneath that long coat...and a big one at that.

Also, why can't you fore whilst you dive anymore? When you dive to the left or right you need to wait until he's finished off his hawai 5.0 style roll before you can start shooting again, which kind of takes the fun out of it now i think. And why can't he dive forward anymore?

Apart from all of that it's an alright game. The story so far isn't anywhere near as good as MP1 (i just started playing as Mona), but it's not bad overall.

Enverex
21 Oct 2003, 12:37am
Originally posted by RMF
What's up with the way that Max runs now? He looks like a freak. He moves like he's concealing some kind of but plug underneath that long coat...and a big one at that.

Also, why can't you fore whilst you dive anymore? When you dive to the left or right you need to wait until he's finished off his hawai 5.0 style roll before you can start shooting again, which kind of takes the fun out of it now i think. And why can't he dive forward anymore?

Apart from all of that it's an alright game. The story so far isn't anywhere near as good as MP1 (i just started playing as Mona), but it's not bad overall.

He can dive forward, you must have some sort of key configuration conflict....

NS

Komete
21 Oct 2003, 1:16am
Too short to be honest, but still quite good.

...agreed. Also i think they should have added more to the over all movements. Like it would have been cool to climb up a ladder hang on an edge of a wall etc.. Like in splinter cell except more action.

Over all I give it a 7 out of ten.

Pro's awsome sound fx
good story
bulet time
prety textures
fighting alongside other caracters.


Con's Way to short
They realy didn't add anytrhing to the origenal
caracter movements not nature
Boxes and objects fell over to easy and to often

Don't think I'll buy the next one untill it hits the 15 to 20 buck range.

Coaster
23 Oct 2003, 1:59am
7 out of 10? No way :D

Ok, I am just a fan boy - I LOVED IT, well I guess you all know that now :)

Bring on the payne! /me fast forwards his life one year :D

Komete
23 Oct 2003, 2:45am
Well the first one got a 10 from me. They just really didnt do anything new that would deserve a 10. They just should have added some more movements to the caracter.

Coaster
23 Oct 2003, 2:47am
did you know that apparently there is a different ending to the story on the hardest level?

Makes it a tad longer, though I can just enter the story and blast away I love Bullet Time 2.0 so much ;D

Komete
23 Oct 2003, 4:46am
does the girl live? couse that would rock! Max has to get his freak on :)

Enverex
23 Oct 2003, 12:47pm
Originally posted by Komete
does the girl live? couse that would rock! Max has to get his freak on :)

*** SPOILER ****


























No, everyone dies, absoloutely everyone exept Max, which sort of removes any type of continuality in the next game....

The use the cheats, put -developer in the shortcut, and press the tidle (~) key in game to being up the console, then type the cheats in there.

The only form of replayablity the game seems to have though is on the "Dead man walking" modes, as the story itself is too slow to want to play again anytime soon.

Another thing as well as the game being short, was most of it was way too easy, I just walked stright through the game...

NS

Black Hawk
23 Oct 2003, 7:40pm
The game needs some mods and fast.

Coaster
24 Oct 2003, 3:48am
thanks NightShade

btw can you get hold of that end music for me, you said you had it on SM or something if I remember.. as you say nice end music :)

Coaster
24 Oct 2003, 3:49am
Originally posted by Black Hawk
The game needs some mods and fast.

bloody hell! Give them a chance for gawds sake! :D

Lincoln Imp
24 Oct 2003, 3:50am
Thanks Nightshade :)

Enverex
24 Oct 2003, 7:58am
Poets of the Fall - Late Goodbye

High Quality (http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?depot2=Poets of the Fall.ogg)
Normal Quality (http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?depot2=Poets of the Fall.mp3)

NS