New build won't boot.

[BDR]

Ok guys. I need some suggestions. This new build won't boot. Fans spin, ram led lights up, no beeps, no video. Can't access bios screen.
I'm building this rig with a GA 7N400 L mobo that's a refurb from NE.
It's got a clock set that I haven't seen before, in the form of switches on the mobo (http://domania.us/ladyyyb/pdf.jpg)
I need to know how I should have those switches set to run a 1.2(?) gig tbird, for now.
Ram is two sticks of pc2100 ddr known good ram. Vid card is 8X nvidia ti 4200, and it's running fine on my other tower as I post.
I can try switching ram to the second set of slots and see if that makes a difference. I've tried unplugging all IDE cables and power cables from hardware.

Suggestions on what to try next? and setting for those clock set switches needed please.

[GnomeWizardd]

OOOOOOOOOOO JUMPERS! Yes those jumper need to be set on Auto ( if there is a auto ) Or at the speed of your cpu. Gigabyte is famous for jumpers. First try the ram and if that doesnt work its in the jumpers OR the board is still bad.

[BDR]

switched ram, switched jumpers. still no boot, no video.
I'm going to try a pci vid card.

[WuGgaRoO]

check everything with a comp that works fine....make sure its not the RAM nor the videocard..nor the psu...also, make sur ethe chip is still good and u havnt friend it by accidently forgetting the thermal paste
*man i hate when that happened*

[TheBaron]

if you think some of the jumpbers are wrong:

are you sure your cmos jumper isn't set to clear?
that'd do exactly what you're describing

otherwise your chip isn't posting. if you know its good, then GL witht hose jumpers!

[BDR]

Ram is good. I just pulled it out of another tower.
I tried an AGP and a PCI vid card that I just pulled out of existing towers. They are known good.

I'm not seeing cmos jumper (http://domania.us/ladyyyb/gigamobo.jpg) at all.
I took the battery out and let it reset.

I think either I have the switches wrong, or the mobo is just no good.

[BDR]

I'm going to RMA it and get a mobo I know, like an Asus or an Abit.
I think I hate Giga Byte. :hrm:

[Gravite2090]

Oh man am I must be getting old. Are dip switches and jumpers really on their way out?

Anyways sounds like to me that the person who returned the motherboard to newegg flashed the bios incorrectly. From whats been said anyway. Refurbished items from newegg, are not really refurbished or tested. They should be called repackaged.

Get a new mobo sir. Good luck.

[Mt_Goat]

BDR had this to say
I'm going to RMA it and get a mobo I know, like an Asus or an Abit.
I think I hate Giga Byte. :hrm:

Welcome to the club. And remember; "Friends don't let friends buy Gigabyte." :werr: :eek3: :D

[csimon]

did the board even post?
did you try taking it out of the case and setting it up with 1 stick ram in the first bank and vid card only?
if you've haven't given up yet let us know k? :fold:

[BDR]

I've bought lots of refurbed items from NE and have only had 2 that didn't work. That's acceptable to me.
Anyway, back it goes. Done deal now.
I'm now looking for my next new AMD mobo, and will consider suggestions, as long as it's not a Giga Byte. ;)

[Mt_Goat]

Get a new mobo sir. Good luck.

Gravite2090,

You better duck because she won't like being called sir. :eek2:

[BDR]

mtgoat had this to say
Get a new mobo sir. Good luck.

Gravite2090,

You better duck because she won't like being called sir. :eek2:

;D I saw that. It isn't the first time I've been taken as male (in the forum) and probably won't be the last.
It's ok. :cool:

Ok, Asus or Abit? I'm leaning towards Asus.
I'll be getting a different cpu to go with it.

[csimon]

I have a setup I'm just about ready to part w/!
abit kt7a-r w/ tbird 1.33 512mb corsair xms i think

[BDR]

csimon had this to say
I have a setup I'm just about ready to part w/!
abit kt7a-r w/ tbird 1.33 512mb corsair xms i think

Problem is that I have a tbird now and I'm looking to get a more up to date board and cpu. Better than what I currently have.
And something that uses ddr ram.

[csimon]

in that case I can part with the kr7a-r xp2000+ 512mb ocz3000ddr if you're interested

[Mt_Goat]

BDR,

You asked a dangerous question on a predominantly Abit forum.
Ok, Asus or Abit? I'm leaning towards Asus.
Heck, we even got some of the resident Asus folks to switch lately. I say get what I got as well as 1/2 this board, Abit NF7-S baby. (As mtgoat does his best Austin Powers impression) ;)

Seriously, even if you don't overclock you still can't go wrong. If you don't care about sound quality or RAID then get the plain jane NF7. I swore off overclocking for a while and after I got this board I just couldn't resist the calling and it is now easier than ever to do well.

[a2jfreak]

Asus/Abit. Whichever floats your boat.

For rock-solid workstations that aren't overclocked: Asus.
For overclocking: Abit.

[csimon]

I was under the impression you are looking for an inexpensive folder ...if I were getting a refurb system from NE right now I'd seriously consider this board msi k7n2 for $69 ...and there are a few in stock from what I see.

[GnomeWizardd]

Abit NF7-S Hands down And like Mt said friends dont let friends Buy Giga-byte

[GHoosdum]

I'd say go with whichever (Asus or Abit) NE has in stock refurb when you order a new one. I just got an Asus A7N8X-X v2.0 refurb from them for $41. I hope it works!

[BDR]

Ok, csimon. I just ordered the MSI and a 2400XP.
I hope this one works. :p

[GHoosdum]

MSI makes good boards too, just not as overclockable as Abit. Then again, neither is Asus and I swear by 'em!

Would that 2400XP you bought happen to be a Thorton? ;)

[BDR]

I have an MSI and it's an ok board, although it's a version 1xx.
This one should be more top of the line.

NE doesn't list any Thorton's.
I wanted at least 2 gigs, and that one had a decent price. :)

[GHoosdum]

Yeah, the only place I've seen the Thorton in stock yet is eWiz... but their rating is almost as good as Newegg's.

The only thing I'd recommend on that MSI is replacing the NB cooling with something like this: http://www.svc.com/zanoco.html

[csimon]

let us know when that new board arrives BDR

[BDR]

csimon had this to say
let us know when that new board arrives BDR

It should be here by Wed.

I'm still tempted to give that GigaByte one more try. It can't do more than give me a headache, right? ;)

[csimon]

sure why not ...set it up on an anti-static pad outside of the case with one stick ram in the first bank and video card and nothing else ...and letterip!

[BDR]

If the board was shorting on the case, would the fans spin?

[Thrax]

Yes.

I'd bet $10 that it isn't a board short, however.

[csimon]

OT ...make sure you don't miss the lunar eclipse in all the excitement! Hurry it's almost done!

[BDR]

Please take a look at this (http://domania.us/ladyyyb/giga.jpg) (big image) and tell me what the switches need to be set to. This pic was taken before I installed the mobo in the case.
I had just installed the cpu and hsf, and plugged in the wiring.
(and yes, I did plug in the hsf before I fired it up).

What's confusing about the switches is that the top one is upside down according to the lettering on it.

Vid card I tried in it is an 8X, known good. (I have it running in one of my other towers right now).

I'll try the last ditch attempt tomorrow, before I pull it out of the case to pack up for return.

[BDR]

csimon had this to say
OT ...make sure you don't miss the lunar eclipse in all the excitement! Hurry it's almost done!


Wha? It's cold outside! ;)

[csimon]

lol ...not cold but it was kinda dark.

[GnomeWizardd]

Nice lunar eclipse! Down here is south FL it was goregous! I love gettign kisses from girls during an Eclipse!

[Thrax]

:skeptic:

He-whore.

[BDR]

Come on guys! Does any one know what switches need to be set on? thank you :D

[TheLostSwede]

Which cpu are you using on that board? I need the default multiplier. Set the CLK_SW switch to ON. (default is off)
If your cpu has a multi off 12, set the switches to the following:

0 X 0 0 0 0

If you have 11:

0 0 0 0 0 0

0 is ON and X is off.

If you set them all at X (which is default), it should auto detect what cpu you have. But you MUST set the CLK_SW switch to ON first of all. Otherwise, it won't detect that you have a 266 fsb, 333 fsb or 400 fsb cpu.

RTFM BDR.

[BDR]

Thanks Mack. That's what I needed to know. I want to let it auto detect.
CPU is supposed to be a 1.4 tbird, although someone wrote 1.2 on it. (It was given to me)
I was using the cpu in another mobo, and I know it works.

[BDR]

RTFM BDR

the f-ing manual didn't come the with f-ing mobo.

I had to go to f-ing website and dl the f-ing pdf file, which I hate.

I needed help trying to understand the f-ing switches, which I have never seen before, and if I can't come here for help, then where can I go and not be told to read the f-ing manual?

Thanks :banghead:

[Mt_Goat]

BDR had this to say
RTFM BDR

the f-ing manual didn't come the with f-ing mobo.

I had to go to f-ing website and dl the f-ing pdf file, which I hate.

I needed help trying to understand the f-ing switches, which I have never seen before, and if I can't come here for help, then where can I go and not be told to read the f-ing manual?

Thanks :banghead:

We understand your frustration BDR! Please calm down and breath deep. I think Mac should have you covered there. Please keep us posted. If that doesn't work the resort to beer and violence on your board. :eek: J/K ;)

[TheLostSwede]

BDR had this to say
RTFM BDR

the f-ing manual didn't come the with f-ing mobo.

I had to go to f-ing website and dl the f-ing pdf file, which I hate.

I needed help trying to understand the f-ing switches, which I have never seen before, and if I can't come here for help, then where can I go and not be told to read the f-ing manual?

Thanks :banghead:

FFS, knock it off.

Here's the download link to the manual:

http://america.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/FileList/Manual/manual_7n400pro2_e.pdf

Loosen up please. I refuse to stay on my toes just because you are sensitive to jokes. And you are welcome, i hope this solves the problem.

EDIT**// Seeing now that you actually already have the manual ,so ditch the link.

[BDR]

Mackanz had this to say
FFS, knock it off.

Here's the download link to the manual:

http://america.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/FileList/Manual/manual_7n400pro2_e.pdf

Loosen up please. I refuse to stay on my toes just because you are sensitive to jokes. And you are welcome, i hope this solves the problem. [/B]

I have the pdf file already.
and excuse me for not automaticly knowing it was a "joke".
As for the "sensitive" remark.

pfft @you

[TheLostSwede]

Did the stuff boot after the changes? If not, it's RMA time. 1.4 tbird huh? Positive it's a 266 fsb cpu and not a 200 fsb cpu? I dont remember if AMD ever made 1.4, 200 fsb cpus, that's why i ask. If 200 fsb cpu, set multi to 14 which is 0 X X 0 X 0
If you have a 266 fsb cpu, its 10,5 that is the multi (10.5*133) if auto doesn't work. 10.5 multi is X X X X 0 0 on those switches.

[BDR]

Sorry Mack. The person I got it from wrote 1.2 g 266 on the chip.

I packed the mobo up for RMA-ing.

Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.



I'm too old for this forum.


:sad2:

[csimon]

I think a dead mobo has got to be the hardest thing to troubleshoot IMHO ...so don't let it bother you.
I've had dead mobo's before ...once I got two in a row and they weren't refurbed.
You aren't too old for this forum ...some of us are older than you!:thumbsup:

[BDR]

csimon had this to say

You aren't too old for this forum ...some of us are older than you!:thumbsup:


;D but not you, csimon. I was born in 1955.

Have another banana.

[csimon]

well ...you and muddocktor are roughly the same age.
so you remember the building of the pyramids n stuff? LOL j/k

[BDR]

csimon had this to say
well ...you and muddocktor are roughly the same age.
so you remember the building of the pyramids n stuff? LOL j/k

remember? I think I was there at the planning stage. ;)

[Gravite2090]

My goodness I did call you sir, my apologies.

Abit sounds nice. I've never had a problem with Gigabyte. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of the rumors going around about Epox either. Both brands have worked wonderfully for me for years.

But Abit has allways been my favorite motherboard. This morning I turn on my old Abit mobo w/ p3 450. I turn on my current epox system w/ 1800+ at the same time. P3 450 booted up about 60 seconds before my new system :P. (Of course older one runs 98, stripped down quite a bit .. abit..haha =| )

<3 Abit.

[TheLostSwede]

BDR had this to say
Sorry Mack. The person I got it from wrote 1.2 g 266 on the chip.

I packed the mobo up for RMA-ing.

Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.



I'm too old for this forum.


:sad2:

O whell, to bad we couldn't try. Good luck wherever you go in the future.

[Mt_Goat]

Hey, easy there folks I was born in '55 also. ;)

[Leonardo]

;D
I've just found this thread. Sittin' back after church with a glass of wine, I've had one heck of a laugh. This is hilarious, at least from a detached stance.

BDR, we really do love you. You add a lot to the forums. When the frustration is over concerning your motherboard (Lord knows I've had the same frustrations), you'll look back on this thread and laugh too.

I sincerely hope your next board is a 'first time go' when you first install it.

Cheers,

Leo

:wave: