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checkmate
6 Jun 2007, 04:03am
Nicholaus (Checkmate) Lichtman has now successfully completed High School! :celebrate He has completed everything that he set out to complete, now it's on to his next adventure, College! What terrible horrors lie in wait for him? Tune in next year to find out! :celebrate
primesuspect
6 Jun 2007, 04:36am
Terrible horrors?
Women... That's what :wtf:
QCH2002
6 Jun 2007, 04:38am
Congrats, dude... now you can start molding your future. Take all the general education class you can, first. Get them out of the way. When they're done, think about what types of things you want to look into doing as a career.
I've seen too many start taking degree based classes then switch and find out that the classes are worthless except as electives. Take your time, don't party too hard and get a college education!!!
Crazy Joe
6 Jun 2007, 05:23am
Terrible horrors?
Women... That's what :wtf:
Indeed... Women are sometimes terrible horrors...
Terrible horrors...... student loans, credit cards, rent and utilities, and the lack of money to pay any of the above.
It's actually kinda fun after a while when you learn just laugh about it, about how screwed you really are. Am I scaring you yet? :D
GHoosdum
6 Jun 2007, 02:16pm
Indeed... Women are sometimes terrible horrors...
Yup, about once a month. :p
Good luck in college Nick! Congrats on successfully navigating HS.
I'd have to disagree with Q slightly, I think you should pick a major you're interested in. My reasoning behind this is your first major doesn't go well for many people (didn't for me). It eliminates a lot of options and confusion to be able to go, "I don't know what I want to do, but it sure isn't that."
LiLbRo
6 Jun 2007, 04:14pm
I just graduated too!
there are three high schools in troy that equal about 1100 class of 2007 students.
Athens (my school) - ~500
Troy High - ~450
Niles (**** up school) - ~150
whoo troy!
Sledgehammer70
6 Jun 2007, 04:15pm
Terrible horrors?
Women... That's what :wtf:
No thats Whores.. and those can be found in High School TBH
QCH2002
6 Jun 2007, 05:09pm
I'd have to disagree with Q slightly, I think you should pick a major you're interested in. My reasoning behind this is your first major doesn't go well for many people (didn't for me). It eliminates a lot of options and confusion to be able to go, "I don't know what I want to do, but it sure isn't that."My father was the Dean of Assessments at a community college for almost 20 years before he retired. Incoming transfer students came back to junior college because they wasted mom and dad's money taking classes towards their majors.
The logic is as follows... Everyone needs the general education course (X hours of math, x hours of english, x hours of social science, x hours of physical science.) Taking the classes that go directly towards your major pidgin holes you into that major. If you switch majors (which surveys show happens two or three times for most students) you may have to blow an election credit for the course or you may not have enough elective hours left, thereby wasting the class.
The hope is that after two years, you have the necessary maturity and dedication to understand how to combat the upper level major classes. Since you've spent two years getting the pre-requisites out of the way, you have a chance to really find things you like and are good at. I'd also recommend looking into your college's testing programs... many will give you a free assessment test to help show you areas that you are adept at and seem well suited for. Taking your major-centric classes towards the end gears you up for the real world when you graduate... It will be fresh.
To use me as an example... I was told at a young age that I would be an excellent architect. I went into college thinking that was the avenue for me... I walked into college and took Calculus and it was much tougher than the high school version I took. That was one of my only "C" in all of my college classes. I finished many of my gen. Ed. classes and found I loved history. I mean, I wanted to be just like the professor. I looked at why I though I wanted to be an architect and it was because I was told I would be good at it... not because I thought I would be good at it. I took a assessment test and it pointed to education and history. I was good at it and at working with people, helping them understand things. That was my major...
Luckily, I went to a junior college first and all my credits were paid for because my dad worked there. If I had gone to a major college... the mistakes could have cost several $1000 dollars and a ton of time.
BTW... I'm an IT guy now... why? Work wouldn't pay for a History Degree... I happened to like PC's so that's where I am now. I still have plans to become a history professor, some day.... some day.
My father was the Dean of Assessments at a community college for almost 20 years before he retired. Incoming transfer students came back to junior college because they wasted mom and dad's money taking classes towards their majors.
The logic is as follows... Everyone needs the general education course (X hours of math, x hours of english, x hours of social science, x hours of physical science.) Taking the classes that go directly towards your major pidgin holes you into that major. If you switch majors (which surveys show happens two or three times for most students) you may have to blow an election credit for the course or you may not have enough elective hours left, thereby wasting the class.
The hope is that after two years, you have the necessary maturity and dedication to understand how to combat the upper level major classes. Since you've spent two years getting the pre-requisites out of the way, you have a chance to really find things you like and are good at. I'd also recommend looking into your college's testing programs... many will give you a free assessment test to help show you areas that you are adept at and seem well suited for. Taking your major-centric classes towards the end gears you up for the real world when you graduate... It will be fresh.
To use me as an example... I was told at a young age that I would be an excellent architect. I went into college thinking that was the avenue for me... I walked into college and took Calculus and it was much tougher than the high school version I took. That was one of my only "C" in all of my college classes. I finished many of my gen. Ed. classes and found I loved history. I mean, I wanted to be just like the professor. I looked at why I though I wanted to be an architect and it was because I was told I would be good at it... not because I thought I would be good at it. I took a assessment test and it pointed to education and history. I was good at it and at working with people, helping them understand things. That was my major...
Luckily, I went to a junior college first and all my credits were paid for because my dad worked there. If I had gone to a major college... the mistakes could have cost several $1000 dollars and a ton of time.
BTW... I'm an IT guy now... why? Work wouldn't pay for a History Degree... I happened to like PC's so that's where I am now. I still have plans to become a history professor, some day.... some day.
My reasoning is that if you going to go to a Big Ten University, going to a junior college now is a waste of time. A lot of your classes will no longer transfer, and most of them won't go towards your major you select so you'll have useless floating credits that apply towards nothing (such is the case with many AP exams).
The pre-requisites now change depending on what major you take. First semester I took writing, econ, and German which were my pre-requisites depending on my major. There aren't many 'general ed' classes, because the courses in your major will overlap those, but taking the general classes will not overlap your major's pre-requisites. It can stick you with two or more year's worth of work.
I see your logic, and I personally agreed at one point it was that way until I actually went to college.
QCH2002
6 Jun 2007, 06:14pm
My reasoning is that if you going to go to a Big Ten University, going to a junior college now is a waste of time. A lot of your classes will no longer transfer, and most of them won't go towards your major you select so you'll have useless floating credits that apply towards nothing (such is the case with many AP exams).
The pre-requisites now change depending on what major you take. First semester I took writing, econ, and German which were my pre-requisites depending on my major. There aren't many 'general ed' classes, because the courses in your major will overlap those, but taking the general classes will not overlap your major's pre-requisites. It can stick you with two or more year's worth of work.
I see your logic, and I personally agreed at one point it was that way until I actually went to college.Good points... I know that my daughter is going to junior college unless she gets a full ride somewhere else. We want her to get an associate degree so she'll have almost no gen ed classes to do. Just her pre.reqs and major classes.
This could also be a difference with state too. Illinois has an agreement between junior colleges and 4 year state schools.
The difference mainly comes with colleges I think. I went to MSU last year, and while they had the same agreement with many community colleges and other universities, they consistently try to screw your mouth for money. For example, I earned 16 credits off of AP history exams, but only four are allowed to count towards graduation. Essentially I have twelve credits that are earned, but never can be used for anything.
Clutch
6 Jun 2007, 07:19pm
Congrats on finishing High School. Be sure to spend time with your friends now, as most people go their separate ways after HS and you will not see most of your friends for awhile. And you will find out who your true friends are. One of my best friend in HS has spoke to me about 3 times since graduating 4 years ago. Not that I care much as my one true best friend has always been there for me.
checkmate
8 Jun 2007, 03:56am
Thanks everyone. I know what I'm going to major in: Animation and Graphic Design. What do you think? I've got my portfolio together and my resume. I may be getting a job with a company called signs and more as a trainee. I'm applying to colleges and I've made a slight mistake, I didn't take the ACT or the SAT, lol. Should I?
Uh, yeah. It's (One or the other) pretty much a requirement for virtually every college in the US.
leishi85
8 Jun 2007, 04:26am
some university requires u take either SAT or ACT, and SATII
Crazy Joe
8 Jun 2007, 05:22am
I doubt you can be accepted into a University without a score on at least one of them... What kind of counselors do you have at your school that let you get by without taking one or the other if you are planning on college?
I'm taking a calculus and physics class this summer at a community college, and the credits will transfer back to OU. I guess it all depends on the school, but research before you actually put money into anying. So yea, look out for what Nomad was saying about credit transfers. I'm sure this is nothing new to you, but you know....
primesuspect
8 Jun 2007, 02:23pm
That's not a "slight mistake" :wtf:
QCH2002
8 Jun 2007, 02:30pm
ACT is the minimum depending on the college you're looking at attending. My local community/ Junior College did NOT require any ACT or SAT testing but you had to take their placement tests.
Whatever you do... take the tests soon while your "school" brain is still active. NIX that... ACT's (http://www.actstudent.org/) last test for the school year is TOMORROW. SOL on that front. The next round is in October. Sorry....
How did you manage to make it through HS without any teacher or counselor ever telling you that you absolutely must take one of those tests?
I seem to remember not bing able to go a day of my Junior year without being reminded by someone...
airbornflght
9 Jun 2007, 03:33pm
Well, my dad wanted me to go to the local junior college, but with my major (Comp./Elec Engineering) I start taking engineering courses my first semester and the junior college in town doesn't even offer the math that I need, so it would be a total waste of time and money to go there. I'm sure that junior colleges are perfect for majors with a more broad study, but if you are going into something as directed as engineering or architecture persay, I think that a junior college isn't such a great choice.
And how did you forget to take the ACT. I know some colleges will accept you if you have the GPA and Class rank, but if you don't then the act is your only choice. Especially if you are going to a fairly big school. I made a 28 on mine, which I'd really have liked to get a 30 but oh well.
checkmate
10 Jun 2007, 10:28pm
What kind of counselors do you have at your school that let you get by without taking one or the other if you are planning on college?
One where they don't care that much about some students. May be that I'm not Polish, may be that he was too busy with other students. I had to go to him to get the information and when I was asking him questions, he didn't know the answers to most of what I was asking. He just handed me that big envelope and said, "Here you go."
Black Hawk
13 Jun 2007, 03:35am
hatever you do... take the tests soon while your "school" brain is still active.
Listen to the man. I'm scared shitless about going to college cause a preschooler could probably outsmart me now.
QCH2002
13 Jun 2007, 03:42am
Listen to the man. I'm scared shitless about going to college cause a preschooler could probably outsmart me now.AND... an old mans gonna PWN you in the Chopper!!! ;D
Black Hawk
13 Jun 2007, 03:52am
AND... an old mans gonna PWN you in the Chopper!!! ;D
:honoes:
...wait. You and what army? :ninja:
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