ZFS canned for Leopard [Archive]

Thrax

13 Jun 2007, 4:29am

Despite statements (http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18042/Schwartz-ZFS-To-Become-the-File-System-In-Leopard) that the ZFS file system (Redundancy ho!) would power Apple's new <i>Leopard</i> OS, Apple has dropped the bomb and said that it's not the case (http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18079/Apple-No-ZFS-in-Leopard/). HFS+, the current standard, ran up the alternative flagpole in 1998, will continue to be the FS of choice in the near future.

In the mean time, sales of black turtle-necks are expected to decline.

airbornflght

13 Jun 2007, 5:12am

Its not totally canned. I believe if the sources are correct that leopard will be able to read, but not write to ZFS. Which leads me to believe they are looking at a future implementation.

Thrax

13 Jun 2007, 5:15am

Yay semantics. :skeptic:

kryyst

13 Jun 2007, 1:02pm

It was in some of the beta versions and I would suspect that they'll save it for the server version of leopard. It's an extremely robust file system that could be argued is overkill for a home system but perfectly at home on a server.

primesuspect

13 Jun 2007, 2:43pm

Sun just got bootable ZFS volumes on their OWN OS. The cpu overhead is intense on this filesystem, it's designed for enterprise boxes. Remember, A solaris 10 enterprise system sometimes has hundreds of processors, so a little CPU overhead for a kickass bulletproof filesystem is acceptable.... but on a little desktop computer with 2 or 4 cpus? Not acceptable..

Gargoyle

13 Jun 2007, 5:54pm

Read-only for now (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525) has been confirmed by an Apple spokesperson. It will probably be in Xserve, but of course, Apple isn't talking about that.

I think it was funny that Brian Croll (senior director of Mac OS X Product Marketing) said "ZFS is not happening" on Monday, only to have to come back yesterday and admit to it being partially implemented.

airbornflght

14 Jun 2007, 12:26am

Read-only for now (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525) has been confirmed by an Apple spokesperson. It will probably be in Xserve, but of course, Apple isn't talking about that.

I think it was funny that Brian Croll (senior director of Mac OS X Product Marketing) said "ZFS is not happening" on Monday, only to have to come back yesterday and admit to it being partially implemented.

Its not totally canned. I believe if the sources are correct that leopard will be able to read, but not write to ZFS. Which leads me to believe they are looking at a future implementation.

Gargoyle

14 Jun 2007, 12:51am

:rolleyes: Yes, I read your post before I posted. Yes, I still posted. Do you want me to explain why, or something?

airbornflght

14 Jun 2007, 1:42am

no, its quite alright ;D

Gargoyle

14 Jun 2007, 2:05am

no, its quite alright ;D

Just as well; it's all very complicated, really. It involved pandas.

airbornflght

14 Jun 2007, 2:33am

http://blogs.sun.com/erickustarz/entry/zfs_on_a_laptop

interesting.