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cfrobw
29 Jun 2007, 06:01pm
Hello guys,

I have a DELL Dimension 8400 which came with Norton Internet Security 2005 installed. I uninstalled it via ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS in Control Panel.

Afterwards, I installed AOL Safety & Security Center (ASSC). After rebooting ASSC loaded but gave me to messages in it indicating the Norton Internet security was still installed.

I have downloaded the Norton_Removal_Tool.exe from symantic and ran it, supposedly it is supposed to remove NIS2005, however after running and rebooting, ASSC still detects NIS2005 and therefore the ASSC virus protection will not load.

Anyone else have this problem or know a way to fix it? HELP!!!

Thanks

Rob

kryyst
29 Jun 2007, 06:36pm
First I would remove the AOL software it's no better then the Norton and equally as problematic. As for removing Norton Make sure that all norton/symantec references have been removed through your add/remove programs there should have been 3 or 4 of them in total.

I'd then install AVG for anti-virus use firefox with ad-blocker for your browsing and you should be pretty well covered. If you want an added layer of security you can install Zone Alarm for a firewall. But you are better off to just get a router and create a hardware firewall instead.

Keebler
29 Jun 2007, 08:11pm
Norton Internet Security can be nearly impossible to remove. I've had to manually remove it from the registry on more than one occasion.

I agree with kryyst - you're probably better off using (free) AVG, Firefox, and a router than screwing with that mess of Norton & AOL.

If you absolutely need to kill NIS, I'd just reformat and reinstall Windows unless you're comfortable backing up your registry and finding/deleting the (three, I think) keys that need to be removed.


//edit: FYI, personally, I ponied up the $50 for Kaspersky (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-2296689-10400108) Anti-Virus, which is a bit better than AVG. But, you can't beat free :)

Sledgehammer70
29 Jun 2007, 08:24pm
If I could honestly destroy any one program in this world it would Be Norton Internet security...

System resources usage:

Windows XP - 332MB
Other programs - 150MB
Norton - the rest of the system and your grandma

System Boot Time (the moment you can actual do stuff in windows)

Windows no Norton = 38 sec's
Windows with norton - 5 1/2 minutes
Windows with Norton with Auto Updates - threw the PC out the window before I could time it...

Break Down:

Norton is bad... Very! Very! Bad.

cfrobw
29 Jun 2007, 09:57pm
No, I would destroy Symantec!

Everything they put their grubby little hands on gets destroyed

When "Peter Norton Computing" made the products they were great, however when Symantec (a former Macintosh Software company) got their grubby little hands on Norton products, they were like a virus, worm, trojan horse, malware that destroyed Peter Norton Computing as it gobbled it up!

I would put Norton to death to end his pain and suffering! LOL!!!

Leonardo
29 Jun 2007, 09:58pm
Norton Ghost is still a great product. But I can't think of any others...

cfrobw
29 Jun 2007, 09:59pm
If you absolutely need to kill NIS,

back up your registry and finding/deleting the (three, I think) keys that need to be removed.

I can do that. Do you know what keys?

Rob

Thrax
30 Jun 2007, 02:25am
Or just download a utility called "SymNRT" directly from Symantec, which will nuke NIS for you.

cfrobw
30 Jun 2007, 08:08am
Or just download a utility called "SymNRT" directly from Symantec, which will nuke NIS for you.

Thrax, thanks for the suggestion, however I tried that one already. It didn't work.

Rob

Thrax
30 Jun 2007, 12:59pm
It probably did remove NIS, but left a few registry entries.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/history/topic/111599-1.html

Do this, and pay special attention to msifix.bat and symmsicleanup.reg. Also, download and run CC Cleaner.

jokke
1 Jul 2007, 12:24am
If i may say something, i agree with what you are all saying here. I have installed Norton Internet Security 2007 (came free from our ISP) on my mothers computer, and I can see a DRASTIC reduce in load times on this computer. When it didn't have Norton, it went like a greased lightning on speed, but after the install, it went like a lightning running trough syrup, with a parachute behind it. Symantec Sucks.

cfrobw
16 Jul 2007, 05:02am
Okay, the Norton Internet Security 2005 (Firewall/Anti-virus) VIRUS won. I had to restore my computer from scratch.

I'm not buying Norton Products anymore!

The Symantec worm damaged good Norton Products and turned them into a virus, worm, malware.

This thread can be closed or deleted.

Leonardo
16 Jul 2007, 07:33am
This thread can be closed or deleted.No purpose is served by closing or deleting threads when a user finds a solution.

Glad you got your problem fixed. I have come to loathe the huge 'security' suites by McAfee and Symantec. They are designed for the lowest common denominator and are also one-size-fits-all. I think they probably work well for enterprise systems, with hundreds or thousands of machines spread out over different locations. Both are friendly to the administrator as far as I've heard. Apart from that, STAY AWAY FROM NORTON and MCAFEE.

cfrobw
16 Jul 2007, 10:19pm
[QUOTE=Glad you got your problem fixed. I have come to loathe the huge 'security' suites by McAfee and Symantec. They are designed for the lowest common denominator and are also one-size-fits-all. I think they probably work well for enterprise systems, with hundreds or thousands of machines spread out over different locations. Both are friendly to the administrator as far as I've heard. Apart from that, STAY AWAY FROM NORTON and MCAFEE.[/QUOTE]

Thanks!, Well, I use to be a system administrator untill I was called to be a disciple and minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. With the problem I experienced, this took to much time to repair, and of course a user wouldn't want to lose their settings and files ect.

As an admin, I would probably have had the users store everything on a network drive all the time. In this way I could ghost and image right over whats there their computer and reinstall their software connect their mail, internet, and data file connections using a script.

This was an imposible task and not worth the time spent trying to repair it.

As far as Mcafee, I have had similar problems with Mcafee in the past, but I'm enjoying AOL Safety and Security center, which is actually Mcafee Anti-virus and firewall. As long as it can uninstall the products it conflits.
Unfortunately this time it recognized a portion of Norton after I had already uninstalled norton, and it would not remove norton. Otherwise, I've never had any problems with AOL Safety and Security Center (Mcafee), and it's free and updates automatically!

Rob