Perpetual energy machine? Maybe? [Archive]

Thrax

5 Jul 2007, 12:57am

This story piggybacks on one I heard a few years back, where an Irish scientist claimed he was onto something. He announced that, when finished, he would reveal it to the world and let any scientist who wished to play with it do so. To paraphrase, he felt as though a device and claim of such scientific magnitude and scepticism could only be validated by such a broad and thorough investigation.

Whether or not this is a continuation of the story, I cannot be certain, but it would be prodigious if true. Steorn's Orbo (http://www.steorn.com/orbo/).

shwaip

5 Jul 2007, 4:06am

no.

csimon

5 Jul 2007, 4:25am

So what is it? Magnetics?

Lincoln

5 Jul 2007, 4:38am

I'm going to go make a site that claims I've harnessed the power of a blackhole. BRB.

Thrax

5 Jul 2007, 4:57am

I say "No" as well, but the story is too neat not to post. ;D

primesuspect

5 Jul 2007, 2:45pm

They were going to broadcast a demo today, but.....

Important update on the Kinetica demo:

We are experiencing some technical difficulties with the demo unit in London. Our initial assessment indicates that this is probably due to the intense heat from the camera lighting. We have commenced a technical assessment and will provide an update later today.

;)

shwaip

5 Jul 2007, 4:48pm

They were going to broadcast a demo today, but.....

;)

they have released this updated picture of the device working. Due to the removal of the lights, it may be slightly difficult to make out the exact workings. Rest assured that it is working, though.

http://icrontic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=23535&stc=1&d=1183650553

primesuspect

5 Jul 2007, 5:14pm

truly remarkable. Wars will be prevented because of that machine.

Kwitko

5 Jul 2007, 5:44pm

I'm going to create a perpetual motion machine powered by Black_Hawk's "leftovers" after a meal.

Leonardo

5 Jul 2007, 8:12pm

I've got some beach front property in Eagle River for only $1500/acre. Free tiki hut for the first 10 sales. Palm trees, dolphins swimming the surf, constant 85*F temps! It's also a cure-resort. We sell only the newest, most effective natural remedies - guaranteed to reverse over 95% of all known illnesses and diseases. Oh, did I mention - all beach front lots have FREE!!! electrical power hookups, generated by Perpetual Motion Machines (manufactured by DefyPhysics of Lagos, Nigeria).

Thrax

5 Jul 2007, 8:51pm

A perpetual motion machine is (Scientifically) preposterous, however the mere fact that they're willing to display it to the science community for thorough investigation lends some credit to it.

Now, if it never gets displayed, I'll laugh right along with all of you. But you all must admit that it's a bold move to show it off, eh? I'm a skeptic, not parochial.

RWB

5 Jul 2007, 10:48pm

By Scientific you mean, "Matter nor energy can be created or destroyed, merely converted" right? So I can see a perpetually self running machine that would serve 100% no purpose though... but not anytime soon.

Leonardo

6 Jul 2007, 7:14am

Imagine that, will you! For some reason, the perpetual energy machine was not demonstrated. Gasp!Our initial assessment indicates that this is probably due to the intense heat from the camera lighting.Uh, say again, please? News article here (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2193572/perpetual-motion-machine-hits).

shwaip

6 Jul 2007, 7:45am

it's not free/perpetual energy, apparently:

"time variant magneto-mechanical interactions"

so they're going to use energy from the earth's (always changing) magnetic fields to drive some moving part. Whoopdy-do.

Thrax

6 Jul 2007, 7:51am

Commence the laughing.

Leonardo

6 Jul 2007, 7:55am

I admit, I don't understand the technology. If they actually demonstrate something that works and is not a gimmick of some kind, I'll be the first to salute and bow.

But this just reminds me too much of the claims for all the devices that were supposed to dramatically increase automobile gas mileage. It also reminds of the "cold fusion" scandal in Utah a few years ago. Technology that truly could have changed the world, but that for some reason, could not be reproduced under peer observation.

RWB

6 Jul 2007, 8:16am

Where's my nuclear powered car BTW? I DEMAND A NUCLEAR POWERED CAR!!! I have an awesome bumper sticker in mind for tail gaters and *******s who drive with their high beams on.

1,000,000W LIGHTS.... ON!

shwaip

6 Jul 2007, 8:29am

I mean, this is obviously an interesting and potentially very useful source of energy. If it can be harnessed to do something useful, it will likely be a very clean source of energy. However, I doubt that it can be used to power much more than the rotation of the device (I assume something on the device rotates with "no" input power).

This is free energy in the same way that a solar panel generates free energy.

shwaip

6 Jul 2007, 2:11pm

postponed indefinitely ;D

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=58763&page=1#Item_0

Lincoln

6 Jul 2007, 2:32pm

The government got to them! :eek3:

Buddy J

6 Jul 2007, 3:11pm

They got to Tesla too!

Leonardo

6 Jul 2007, 4:49pm

The government got to them!No, it was the "big oil companies." Or was it the Council on Foreign Relations, or was it...

Kwitko

6 Jul 2007, 5:11pm

They're going to use the machine to power their Phantom game console and play Duke Nukem Forever.

RADA

6 Jul 2007, 8:16pm

They're going to use the machine to power their Phantom game console and play Duke Nukem Forever.

*laff, wheeze, koff.................... genius, sheer genius....

Thelemech

6 Jul 2007, 9:37pm

Delusional Utopians lured in by that ancient dream!??
Or clever schemers - working with Garage/Basement scientist/layman?
Or maybe the new Electric Car -conspiracy anyone????
Or a web phenomena created to capitalize on Green Energy?
Makes for good reading anyway:wink:
Thanks Thrax!