E6850 Temps [Archive] - Icrontic Forums

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 03:15am

Hi, I've just broken in a E6850. I changed my FSB to 360 which changed my speed to roughly 3.24ghz. I'm using the stock intel cooler w/ AS 5 and I idle in the mid to high 30's w/ case temps at 50ish (2 case fans at medium speed in a Antec p180). Running prime95 the cpu temp jacked to 70ish (high I believe).

What temp is too high on this stock cooler? The case temps might be explained by the 8800GTS I'm running. I believe the temps aren't a ton lower when its not overclocked but ill have to change it back to get the other temp data.

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 03:17am

55c is too high. I'm at 46C on the hottest core at full load @ 3.1GHz.

Leonardo

30 Jul 2007, 03:19am

Tange, I'm wondering if your hardware monitoring software needs to be reset/adjusted. It's impossible to have an air cooled CPU running cooler than the ambient air that is cooling it. That defies physics. Perhaps your case temperature (ambient) is 30's and the the CPU in the 50's? If that's the situation, your CPU is way overheating. You shouldn't 50's for the CPU unless it's at full load. If you are running a premium heatsink, you shouldn't see 50's unless the CPU is running full load and highly overclocked.

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 03:48am

I'm using C.O.M which is gigabyte's web app for sys info. Systemp (as the app calls it) is in the 50's, cpu temp is 38-40 idle. BIOS reports temps right around the same.

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 03:51am

55c is too high. I'm at 46C on the hottest core at full load @ 3.1GHz.

Stock HS or something aftermarket?

Edit: I should note I've only had this about half a week. There's a burn in period for Arctic Silver 5 I believe?

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 04:00am

The burnin period is about three days.

I'm using an after-market cooler because you and I are both running frequencies the stock cooler was not only not designed to handle, but a dangerous idea to use in our circumstance.

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 04:03am

Here's my current data (still overclocked). Guess I'll have to run it at stock for awhile.

AS5 website reads 200 hrs burn in (8 days) and several 'thermal cycles' though I think your right, a few days.

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 04:06am

That program has your case and CPU temperatures reversed. It's also not showing you the temperature of both cores.

That program stinks. Use CoreTemp (http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/).

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 04:10am

What do you think ? Whats tjunction temp?

edit, 2nd is under load from 2 instances of prim95 torture test (one on each core)

another edit: little while longer and its at 62C under load

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 04:19am

62C is way too hot, as in dangerously, damage-your-cpu hot. Your heatsink is more than capable of moving off the heat at idle, but it is not prepared to handle full-load temps. When I put my CPU from full load, it goes up by a mere 6C.

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 04:25am

Ok, back to stock speeds.

idle and under load

Still strikes me as slightly high. Perhaps I didn't install the HS correctly or maybe it moved around too much during install and the thermal paste got spread thin.

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 04:27am

It's pretty standard for the stock cooler. You could reduce that by 8-14C with a better cooler, but that's standard.

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 04:28am

It's pretty standard for the stock cooler. You could reduce that by 8-14C with a better cooler, but that's standard.

Good to hear, guess I just got over zealous on over clocking w/ the stock cooler. If I feel the need for speed I'll have to find a better HS otherwise she stays stock. Hell, stock on this lady is pretty fast...

Thanks for the help thrax! Love icrontic (short-media)! (hey, i was introduced to it as short-media, I went to school w/ GeneralKeebler (name on SM, not sure if he still uses it here) who showed me the site)

Your Amish Daddy

30 Jul 2007, 04:36am

Pick up a cooler master Gemini 2. Solved all of my high-end temp problems.

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 04:37am

Tange1

30 Jul 2007, 06:18pm

I'm glad I could help you, sir.

If'n you decide you want to upgrade, I suggest a Thermalright Ultra-120 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140)and a Thermaltake SmartFan-II (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999145). Your chip will be a pleasant little icebox, and they're the best money can buy. Don't you want the best for your sweet chip? ;) :D

Does the fan strap to that HS you linked to? I've heard something about arctic coolers being good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

I imagine any of these are going to be a bit of a pain to install on my board:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128046
As a board HS has to come off to install aftermarket HS's.

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 06:35pm

That heatsink you linked is inferior to the heatsink I linked. The Thermalright is the best on the market - it has no competition, and the fan does indeed strap to the hsf.

DanG

30 Jul 2007, 07:14pm

I've got the thermalright 120 (not ultra) and going from the stock intel cooler to the thermalright with a decent 120mm fan and my temps went from 65ish under full load on an E6600 @ 3.3GHz down to 47c under full load.

Leonardo

30 Jul 2007, 07:14pm

Thrax, I've seen the enthusiasm surrounding the Thermalright 120's, but the Newegg customer reviews give me pause. Apparently many knowledgeable, skilled computer builders have registered quality control problems, specifically that the finish on the 120's base has often been not flat and very poorly finished - poor machining. Do you know if Thermalright has addressed the QC problem?

Thrax

30 Jul 2007, 07:24pm

It is true that some U120s are leaving the factory with convex bases, however it is not a pandemic issue as Newegg suggests.

NiGHTS

30 Jul 2007, 10:50pm

More people are inclined to report a negative than they are a positive, too.

Your Amish Daddy

31 Jul 2007, 02:04am

Some people don't even REPORT. I bet there are alot of those that were in fine condition.

Tange1

31 Jul 2007, 03:51am

And does a convex HS damage the CPU or just do a poor job of cooling?

Thrax

31 Jul 2007, 03:56am

Poor job of cooling.

Tange1

31 Jul 2007, 04:01am

Do you know if I'd have any issues installing it on a gigabyte GA-p35-dq6?

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128046

There's a lot of HS's on this guy. I know I have to remove the crazy cool HS on the back of the board to install any aftermarket HS.

Thrax

31 Jul 2007, 04:18am

PM Shwaip. I believe he recently installed that HSF/mobo combo successfully.

Tange1

31 Jul 2007, 11:19pm

PM Shwaip. I believe he recently installed that HSF/mobo combo successfully.

Thanks, he's indicated its not a bad process once you get the back plate removed. Thanks again Thrax!

Tange1

7 Aug 2007, 11:51pm

Just wanted to ask another question related to this. After things have burned in a bit I found that after boot according to core temp my temps are as low as 18 or 19C. I find this odd cause thats roughly 64F. I'm in a coolish basement but 64? After I put some load on the system then taking it off I get it to stable out around 22C, or 72F. This is about room temp. Is that normal?

Under load I still hit in the high 40's but thats ok. I'll get a new cooler eventually.

Thoughts?