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test_tube_tony
20 Nov 2003, 02:45am
I was reinstalling the os on my server to make some major changes, when much to my surprise, during the copying setup files process, I get an error that it can't copy ks.sys. It’s the first time I've had this problem and I think I need a new disk. Is there anyone that can somehow send me an iso or something, or tell me how to fix this? I need to get it up asap.

MediaMan
20 Nov 2003, 02:54am
Short-Media does not support warez or illegal software, cracks, keys, etc. We have no way of verifying the legitimacy of your copy. Look to Microsoft for tech support of a legitimate copy of Win2k.

Have you tried cleaning the disk with a damp paper town or using a different optical drive for the install?

Thanks


EDIT: YGPM.

profdlp
20 Nov 2003, 04:24am
I have had similar problems on occasion which were caused by a bum HD. It wasn't a problem with what it was trying to copy from, but rather what it was copying to.

Might want to try a different HD.

test_tube_tony
20 Nov 2003, 05:49am
MediaMan had this to say
Short-Media does not support warez or illegal software, cracks, keys, etc. We have no way of verifying the legitimacy of your copy. Look to Microsoft for tech support of a legitimate copy of Win2k.

Have you tried cleaning the disk with a damp paper town or using a different optical drive for the install?

Thanks


EDIT: YGPM.

This wasn't a warez copy, someone I know in the field gave me a corprate disk. So if it is the disk, I'll be really bumed. I've tried two different cd drives to install, and it always hangs in the same spot. The disk apears to be in excelent condition. I also searched the disk for the for the file, and I can't seem to find it. So I'm thinking it just might be the disk. :(

I was thinking of the possibility that the HD could be bad as well, considering I got it off of ebay. But again, its strange that it always hangs in the exact same spot. Also win2k pro installed just fine. I dont have another HD on hand, so i'll save that as a last resort kinda deal.

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 05:57am
check your memory

www.memtest86.com

keto
20 Nov 2003, 06:00am
Seems that memory can cause hangs in OS installs, it's the most common cause I've seen, tho there are certainly others as have been suggested. See above.

MediaMan
20 Nov 2003, 06:21am
The KS.SYS file is often associated with audio driver problems. A possible solution is to disable or physically pull the audio card and install WIN2K.

But I suspect that it is the drive that is misreading the disk. Optical drives can do that. You may also try formatting the HDD with a win98SE bootdisk from www.bootdisk.com THEN attempting the reinstall of Win2k.


The other possible cause that deserves equal attention is the HDD itself as Prof pointed out. If the hard drive is making any random or continuous "odd" noises such as clicking or unusually loud noise then this too is a telltale.

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 06:22am
If you think it might be the disk, just try copying the disk. If you can copy the disk, it's probably not the disk.

or memtest86.com ;)

Omega65
20 Nov 2003, 08:50am
I'm thinking it's the Optical drive. I had the same thing happen this past weekend. I was trying to install off of a Lite-on 48X CDRW and it would hang on the same file time after time. I pulled a Lite-on 52XCDRW/DVD-rom out of the bubble wrap and the OS installed just fine.

BTW that corporate disk isn't black is it?? :)

kanezfan
20 Nov 2003, 01:07pm
i don't think you'd find ks.sys, cause it's probably ks.sy_ on the disc in the \winnt folder. all files are compressed, i mean the CD holds only 700MB max and yet you end up with a 1GB install. but yeah, try a different cdrom drive

Enverex
20 Nov 2003, 02:08pm
Omega65 had this to say
I'm thinking it's the Optical drive. I had the same thing happen this past weekend. I was trying to install off of a Lite-on 48X CDRW and it would hang on the same file time after time. I pulled a Lite-on 52XCDRW/DVD-rom out of the bubble wrap and the OS installed just fine.

test_tube_tony had this to say
I've tried two different cd drives to install, and it always hangs in the same spot. The disk apears to be in excelent condition.

kanezfan
20 Nov 2003, 02:25pm
NS always catches what the rest of us don't.

Thrax
20 Nov 2003, 02:27pm
Sounds quite a bit like memory to me. RAM can do some really disgustingly bad things to window installs...

Case in point, my friend's computer would not install Windows XP. It couldn't copy NTFS.sys, we changed HDD, CDs, CD-ROMS, etcetera...I should've gone with my gut instinct.

We changed memory, and his copy of XP installed fine.

So, as per the usual, I say check the memory.

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 04:04pm
Namo tassa sammemtest86.com sangha buddhasa
Name tassa sammemtest86.com sangha buddhasa

... sorry, just doing my morning meditations..... don't mind me...

test_tube_tony
20 Nov 2003, 04:11pm
I had another buddy send me an iso he made off his actual disk last night, and I got it working just fine. I guess it was the disk :( Oh well, s--t happens. Thanks for your help.

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 04:14pm
you could run memtest86 just in case...

kanezfan
20 Nov 2003, 04:24pm
oh well, you should have used linux anyways. it was sign man, a sign....

Enverex
20 Nov 2003, 04:27pm
Que Thrax's "Windows was ranked #1 by the worlds top auditing......"

NS

test_tube_tony
20 Nov 2003, 05:14pm
I've tried linux before, and i didn't have the patience to figure it out. And what is this memtest86 you speak of?

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 06:12pm
memtest86.com

download memtest86 and it will create either a bootable floppy or a bootable CD ISO. You boot off said media, and it will run a memory test to determine whether you have bad memory or not. It works well.

croc_
20 Nov 2003, 06:36pm
Hmm I have been thinking about testing my memory, but I don't know what program to use. I have look ALLLLL over and can't find a good one. Any suggestions??? *giggles*

primesuspect
20 Nov 2003, 06:47pm
I can't think of any off the top of my head. I've never really used a memory tester before....

Cyclonite
20 Nov 2003, 07:37pm
/me looks at Prime's post...

/me looks at recent SM Byte...

/me realizes what's going on and walks away slowly... :p

test_tube_tony
21 Nov 2003, 03:35am
Ok, I'll try that. Because now dns wont install! AHHHHH. before it all went bad, I had some strange files that showed up in my upload folder for my ftp. There where 15 visible .xls files (not excell tho), but when I scanned them with norton, there where 30, and the names where some long HEX string. These files could not be deleted, and when I tried, I got a file system error. Could there be a relation?

primesuspect
21 Nov 2003, 03:36am
Wait, you have that problem, but this is a brand new fresh install? You've got some weird issues, there....

test_tube_tony
21 Nov 2003, 11:36am
Ok.... I tried to install dns without active directory, and that worked (sorta). I did run memtest86 (nifty program) and there was no problem there. So it looks like I gotta pick up another HD. Oh yea and service pack 4 won't install. i get an error half way through. Its funny, I just registered for a domain name too, before all this happened. Always just my luck. The computer gods are out to get me! HAHA! I'M LOOSING MY MIND!!MWAHAHAHAHAhahaha.....

Enverex
21 Nov 2003, 11:40am
Those files are caused by someone effectively trying to hack your FTP and gain more control over the files than you. Was it an open FTP? As there are methods that they use to create files and actually remove access so you cannot even access some of the files and folders, so they can use it as a remote warez store...

NS

Creep
21 Nov 2003, 11:58am
That what it sounds like to me NS. He also might have a fubar'd HDD, just thinking that with all those errors...


btw NS isnt the ONLY person who picks up those things. He's just the only one that posts it.......

test_tube_tony
21 Nov 2003, 06:41pm
Darn hackers. I was hosting the gta vc isos for people to download, after a buddy uploaded them to me. if they had asked me in a text file for more stuff, I probably would have given them a username and password for my protected ftp download site. But, they went and messed up a good thing. Anyhow, is there some way to remove files like that in the future? I should probably put the open ftp on a separate HD so if things show up I dont like, I can just format the drive.

As for the HD, I did get it off of ebay, so who knows. Well theres a computer show tomorrow, so I guess I'll go see if i can find a new one.

primesuspect
21 Nov 2003, 06:42pm
If you have an open FTP on your computer, you are basically screwed. You are asking to be hacked... It's not worth it.

Enverex
21 Nov 2003, 06:54pm
Made a little note about it on my site at one point. Not exactly the same problem as you, but it should fix it anyway.

http://atomnet.co.uk/protection/?p=comone

NS

TheSmJ
21 Nov 2003, 07:54pm
test_tube_tony had this to say
And what is this memtest86 you speak of?

*Prime pops a boner*



If you have an open FTP on your computer, you are basically screwed. You are asking to be hacked... It's not worth it.

WHAT did I tell you, Tony?! GAH!

test_tube_tony
21 Nov 2003, 10:34pm
Haha, funny. Memtest86 is the greatest thing ever! I mean, it made me realize there was nothing wrong with my memory. As it turns out, I'm just a stupid idiot! (J/K) Anyhow, back to the subject....

test_tube_tony
24 Nov 2003, 12:51am
Wow, my memory was f--king me up. god. what a pain. I took a stick out and TADAA! all better. I dunno if it makes a difference, but it was ECC memory.

profdlp
24 Nov 2003, 01:08am
test_tube_tony had this to say
Wow, my memory was f--king me up. god. what a pain. I took a stick out and TADAA! all better. I dunno if it makes a difference, but it was ECC memory.
Don't know if it applies to you, but if your MB has three memory slots it may be unstable when using all three at 400MHz. Could be that the memory is OK, just too much for the chipset.

(Learned the hard way) :rolleyes:

test_tube_tony
24 Nov 2003, 01:55am
Well, its a pIII board with 4 slots in it. Only 2 used. 100MHz. So nope. I miss the other 256 megs tho. It ran much better (while the chip was still working).