Icrontic on Team Fortress 2

[Lincoln]

I am not a gamer. I do not game. This is my chant to ward off the time pit that is gaming, but last night it failed me. I played TF2 until 3:30am.

Starcraft, Half-Life 2 (and Episode 1), half of Doom 3, and twice through the Warcraft 3 single-player campaign summarize my gaming experiences over the last three years. Yet Team Fortress 2 has sucked me in, and all I want today is another round of online fragging.

TF2 is what would happen if Chuck Jones and Jim Henson made an FPS together. All nine characters you can choose from are hilarious caricatures with fitting taunts, and the narrative is glib. You'll have your favorite character, but you'll be easily tempted to try other roles, and switch between respawns to cover weak points in your team (like five people yelling "MEDIC!" when no one chose that role).

On offense, the Scout bounces around like a 8-year-old on Jolly Ranchers, the Solider throws rockets at everything that moves, and the Pyro... well, it's not a pretty way to go. On defense, maybe you'll want to lob grenades as the Demoman, build turrets and supply depots as the Engineer, or mow the field with a chaingun as the two-ton Heavy. Or, play a support role as a medic (heal and blast needles), sniper (duh), or spy (disguise yourself or use invisibility to knife some lemmings). There's a character for every style of play, and you'll quickly try out the field as you rotate between moods and the needs of the round.

So join Icrontic's Steam group and follow me for some fragging fun tonight. I'll be the sniper bitch up on the ledge, getting stealth-stabbed by the spy.

[primesuspect]

TF2 is just a mod.

[primesuspect]

I like playing the Pyro for some reason. His range sucks, and he's slow, but man I've had some epic moments, like saving one of my team's checkpoints from a nest of medic/sniper/heavy combos, by kamikaze'ing in there with flames a'blazin. Good times.

[Thrax]

TF2 is just a mod.

Truth. But a fun one.

[GHoosdum]

I got back from vacation yesterday and instantly got sucked into this game. As soon as I booted my PC, it seemed that everyone on my Steam friends list was playing TF2, so I joined in.

I had your sniper back, Keebs. Just not very skillfully. ;)

[Sledgehammer70]

I shall DL and get to playing :)

[Cyclonite]

I'll be downloading sometime in the next day or two. Woo!

[primesuspect]

Oh man, there are so many awesome little touches that move this game up from "really good, and fun" to "all time best multiplayer deathmatch game". This is a great game.

When you die and it zooms in to show you the face of your killer - if there are little pieces of you in the picture (such as a blood smear) there will be a little callout box with an arrow pointing to the bloody bit saying "bits of you!" or "your head!" Hilarious

Whenever you die there's always a little positive message: "Look on the bright side, you scored more points this round as a Pyro than you ever have before!" or "You beat your old record of playtime as a Sniper", etc.

The graphics are such a refreshing change of pace. No metal corridors! No dark, evil robots on dark, evil, mechanical backgrounds. You can SEE your enemies. Everything is bright and colorful.

Each class has so much character. They are not faceless avatars, and yet you don't get so attached to them that you can't bring yourself to go on a suicide run as a spy or pyro.

Oh I could go on. All I'll say is: GET THIS GAME and JOIN THE ICRONTIC GROUP ON STEAM

[QCH]

Sounds like a LAN game!!!! Glad we have more time to plan and play this game!!! :rarr:

[mas0n]

MEDIC!

[primesuspect]

This will be THE game of LAN 08. I hear UT2k4's death knell, and it says, "Well, ZAT wuz a deezapoint-ment" in a haughty french accent.

[mas0n]

"there is a spy amongst us..."

[Buddy J]

It's me! knife knife knife

[Lincoln]

This will be THE game of LAN 08.
Truth. I could play 2 days straight of this game.

[Zanthian]

This game is decidedly awesome. The pace just feels right and the graphics are awesome. I too am sitting here at working thinking about how much fun i could be having if i was just playing TF2. So far I think the engineer has been my favorite role.

I am also loving the new steam community. It tells you whose in what game and lets you join them in the game they are currently in. It was awesome when all of a sudden i was playing the game with a bunch of my friends and it was very easy to find the server they were on. The stats are a really great feature. It is very satisfying to see that you are getting better at a certain class and earning achievements. Last night I just earned the achievement of killing 10 people with one turret. (I think most of them came from Ghoosdum lol).

Two thumbs way up on this game, if you are on the fence about buying it, stop what you are doing and go buy the game on steam.

[QCH]

Unreal Tournament 3 is due out in November... Then there's BF2149 (or whatever)...

We should have time for 8 tournaments this LAN... We pick 3 games... that's 2 or 3 for each game!!! Oh yeah!!! That's some SERIOUS FRAGGING!!!

[mas0n]

with demoman as my vessel I shall rid this world of all that is unexploded

[GHoosdum]

I honestly feel like we probably only ever have time to really play one game at the LAN. Usually it wound up being UT2K4. If I have to choose, this year will be TF2.

[QCH]

I think we pulled off a great mix this year. Had I planned better for the server problems... well, we played anyway.

Age of Empires - CHECK
Battlefield2 - CHECK
Unreal Tournament - CHECK
Half Life DM - CHECK

[Shorty]

I am working on my house, I am NOT downloading this. No, no, NO!

/me watches download monitor on steam. Come on.. hurry up!

[Lincoln]

Mr. Pass, I expect to see you this evening for your scheduled pwning. :cool:

[CB]

I've gotten my 'Achievement' for having played each of the characters sufficiently to learn them (the 'Top of the Class' achievement). Not long after, I earned the 'Team Medic' achievement for playing the Medic too much. I think my skills are best utilized in a non-combat role, even if it's not as action-packed some times. :)

[primesuspect]

I have never tried being a heavy or a soldier. I need to work up on those skills :D

The only thing that sucks is that the beta is so popular right now that all servers are too full for ALL of us to play on the same server.

Perhaps Icrontic needs a server :wtf:

[primesuspect]

I've got this.... thing.... going with Mas0n. We seem to always be put on opposite teams.... And we've had scores to settle....

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/mason_nemesis.jpg

ah, but all good things must come to an end. Mind you, he was running and jumping across the whole courtyard, but oh man did I have him in my sights; and he had no idea:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/revenge_mas0n.jpg

[primesuspect]

There are other Icrontians floating about. I think I even saw Kiljaeden sign on today

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/zanthian.jpg

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_keebler.jpg

[Black Hawk]

But I already have HL2 and I don't want to buy it.... :bawling:

[primesuspect]

Then enjoy the lovely screenshots :p

[Zuntar]

Yea, thats what I need, another game to suck my time up, Sheesh!!!




*Zuntar make note to download

[RWB]

* RWB remotes into home PC, begins downloading TF2 via steam

I'll be off my night shift in 1.5hrs, and I estimate I will be getting 0hrs of sleep before my next shift.

[primesuspect]

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/shoot_the_doctor.jpg

From Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/21) ;D

[QCH]

;D That's funny!!!

[lemonlime]

;D

[CB]

Everybody's always hatin' on the medics :( What happened to the Geneva conventions?

[QCH]

I love their chocolate!!!

[Buddy J]

Everybody's always hatin' on the medics :( What happened to the Geneva conventions?

300 came out, making it popular to kill the messenger and other non-combat roles.

http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-06/this-is-sparta-caution-cone.jpg

[Thrax]

Everybody's always hatin' on the medics :( What happened to the Geneva conventions?

They picked up shotguns.

[primesuspect]

This must be a beta thing: Did anyone else notice that the sniper's taunts go from australian outback cowboy to bavarian yodeler? WHERE IS HE FROM? IS HE AUSTRALIAN OR GERMAN?

[Cyclonite]

I need an IC invite! Cyclonite4!

[Zuntar]

I need an IC invite! Cyclonite4!

Ditto here!!

[primesuspect]

Invited both :) Put your steam names in your user profile!

[Lincoln]

That's actually the last news post I'll ever make; my life is over. I am consumed.

[primesuspect]

Working out, you have been.....

[CB]

If you want people to be able to add you to their friends list easier. It works nicely to post a link to your community page. Thusly:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/cbdroege

[GHoosdum]

Okay. Mine seems obvious, I suppose.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ghoosdum

[lemonlime]

This game is a 10 :D

[GHoosdum]

Boy you sure pwned me good earlier lemonlime!

[primesuspect]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/icrontic

[Cyclonite]

I bought the Orange Box yesterday at 2pm. I'm still unable to download TF2. It says my purchase is still processing. I've NEVER had an issue with Steam before. They still haven't answered my support ticket. I'm so freaking mad.

[RyderOCZ]

I am in the same boat as several.... $50 for the Orange box and I already have everything (ok...don't have episode 2 or portal..my bad).

[QCH]

I'll see if I can afford to get the orange box... $45 dollars just so I can play TF Beta... we'll see.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/qch2002

[primesuspect]

Oh man I had some great times last night. I finally started playing as an Engineer, and found that I really like the class. The highlight of my Engineer career so far has been managed to successfully plant a teleporter exit right in the opposing team's Intelligence room. The game went very quickly after that:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/teleporter_in_intelroom.jpg

But as in real life, victory is impermanent:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_thrax.jpg

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_thrax2.jpg

but revenge is sweet:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/thrax_revenge.jpg

Oh well. Do you see a pattern here?

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_keebler2.jpg

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_ghoosdum.jpg

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/killed_by_ghoosdum2.jpg

[CB]

...

[primesuspect]

Looks like Sharkydart didn't take well to a rocket there.... :wtf:

[Crazy Joe]

I ordered the Orange Box last night... Haven't gotten to play it yet as it's still at 86%...

[Black Hawk]

Death sure does arrive fast in this game :-/

[Zuntar]

Ok, so how does this work, If I buy the OB do I just download the games or will I get a voucher or what?

[Thrax]

Download.

[Zuntar]

I'm at 27%:bigggrin:

[Lincoln]

Yay! Only 73% until your life is over! :D

[CB]

Played this game basically all weekend. Sharky, GH, Zan and I were having a small LAN party in Zan's basement. It was a lot of fun playing it in the same room with some of the people on my team. :)


Death sure does arrive fast in this game :-/

You need a medic.

[primesuspect]

having teammates in the same room is a definite advantage. In sudden death after keebs bit it, he was spectating and calling the shots regarding where the opposing sniper was located, etc...

[Zuntar]

OMG soooooo worth the wait, killer fun!!!!!!

[Lincoln]

Icrontic TF2/HL2DM server in 3... 2... 1...

[mas0n]

loads of fun this weekend everybody. Sharkydart is one mean sniper...

[lemonlime]

Boy you sure pwned me good earlier lemonlime!

:ninja:

I was trying to get on the same team as you guys, but that was just as fun ;)

[Hawk]

Are you guys playing this on Xbox or pc?
Does the pc version play on the same server as Xbox?
Just trying to find out if I can get the pc version,then join you all in the game sometime when your playing.
And where can you get the pc version TF2. All I see is the 4-5 package deal. I've already have Half Life 2.
And it says pre order....

[GHoosdum]

loads of fun this weekend everybody. Sharkydart is one mean sniper...

He's not mean, he's just liberating you from whatever character class you're playing at the moment. ;)

You sure are deadly accurate with that grenade launcher, mas0n. I recall being dominated by your grenades a few times this weekend. :bigggrin:

[Hawk]

I assume if you pre order you get the demo?

[GHoosdum]

I assume if you pre order you get the demo?

The pre-order package includes access to the beta, yes.

Are you guys playing this on Xbox or pc?
Does the pc version play on the same server as Xbox?
Just trying to find out if I can get the pc version,then join you all in the game sometime when your playing.
And where can you get the pc version TF2. All I see is the 4-5 package deal. I've already have Half Life 2.
And it says pre order....

This is PC-only, no Xbox.

If you preorder you get the package for $45. TF2 alone is going to be $30 but it doesn't release until October 10. The Orange Box package also comes with Episodes 1 and 2 of Half-Life 2 and Portal. It also frees up your original Half-Life 2 code so you can give the game to someone else.

[Hawk]

Oh, Cool, Thnxs GH. I'll post my Steam ID as soon as I get everything setup.
I have to reload HL2 to sign into steam account. lol

[GHoosdum]

We'll see you in TF2, Hawk! :D

[Hawk]

Just one more question and I'll stop buggin you guys. lol
Do I have to load HL2 again on my pc to get the steam game engine/account etc. working? Between that and the TF2 demo and other games I have loaded it will take up quite some space on the HD.
The reason I'm asking is I'm running on my 36G raptor and like to keep some space on it.

[GHoosdum]

You just need to instal Steam and purchase the Orange Box. Then when your purchase is verified (this took a whole agonizing day for me) you have the ability to install only TF2 if you want. You can save the HD space that way. It runs on the HL2 engine, so there is some overlap, but you don't have to install HL2 first.

[primesuspect]

you don't need to reload HL2 just to get into steam - steam is a separate program. Just get the latest version from steampowered.com and log in with your account info and you can buy the orange box.

[GHoosdum]

One more thing:

Right this minute... I'd rather be sniping.

[Hawk]

Cool, Thnx guys. I'll post my steam ID as soon as i get everything all set back up.

[CB]

One more thing:

Right this minute... I'd rather be sniping.

I would rather be chasing a pyro with my medigun... :)

[primesuspect]

Mas0n and I played last night with the crappiest team ever. It really cemented the fact that this is a team game that needs team strategy. In one example, we were defending control points. Our team consisted of mostly heavies, medics, and snipers rushing up to the front to try to hold off the other team in their resupply point. I kept calling for engineers and pyros to protect them from spies... It was a debacle. We got overrun in seconds.

Mas0n and I bailed to another server and got wrapped up in another crappy team. The opposing team really knew what they were doing. They ubercharged a pyro and rushed the intel room, and had another medic/pyro combo on standby. They capture the intel twice in a row within about three minutes.

We had no engineers in the intel room.... Crappy team :grumble:

[GHoosdum]

I got autobalanced away from CB, Zanthian, and sharky at one point yesterday onto a team that really knew what it was doing. The one thing I noticed about the team was how well they coordinated activities over the voice chat. We defended the last capture point of the map for twenty minutes straight.

That was also the round that I got my "Grey Matter" badge. Twelve minutes between deaths as a sniper really racks up the headshot count. :p

[Cyclonite]

Well, of course, at about 8pm last night, my Orange Box purchase finally goes through. I missed an entire weekend of play. Pissed.

[primesuspect]

Oh there's always tonight. Plus we may have a surprise for icrontic gamers soon....

[QCH]

I love surprises!!!! :D

[Hawk]

Hey guys,
Is there any way to get the steam DL to go any faster?
I've got dsl extreme supposedly. I tested my speeds- average is 300-315 DL and average 2950-3000 upload.
But the Steam DL is in between 170-200 KB/s!
Seems it going to take a couple of hrs or more to DL just the TF2 with the latest Steam client.
Tried all the settings on DL speed on the steam client and DSL/Cable seems to work fastest, but it's still slowwww.
Also, Will I be able to play TL2 offline to practice and get used to the game?
Never played it before.

[primesuspect]

I think steam is just being hammered right now. It's okay, by tonight when the rest of us are playing, you'll have it :)

[Hawk]

OK, Thnx prime. I'm probably not going to be very good for a while, till I get the game down pat. lol
I'll need some expierienced players to guide me through some of it, I'm sure.

[Cyclonite]

Cool. I've got to bowl tonight, but after I may head home for an hour or two to play some. Then, I'm going to go wait in line for my Halo 3 preorder. Yeah, I told myself I wouldn't do it. *Sigh* I'm going to.

[GHoosdum]

Don't worry Hawk. The "experienced" players have been playing TF2 for a week at most. ;)

[Hawk]

Oh, I noticed I need an invite to the Icrontic community to join.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975030958
I'll update my profile as soon as it will let me...... ugh.
Edited it about 15 times now and it doesn't update.

[Zanthian]

Enjoyed a weekend of gaming with TF2. I am loving the engineer and the demoman. Played the medic like once and got Most health healed:9,253 (as Medic) Maybe i should play medic a few more times here or there.


http://steamcommunity.com/id/zanthian

[mas0n]

Yeah, I am really liking the Demoman.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/mas0n

[primesuspect]

I think I've developed enough of a grasp on the team concept to say that I would like to assemble a real team to go out and take on some of these other clans.

I would like to lead this team and also be our team's Engineer.

This is the initial idea I had:

Our medic needs to not only be able to run around behind an offensive player, but quickly determine the best teammate to receive the ubërcharge and also be aggressive enough (and skilled enough) to defend himself using his offensive weapons. The best medics I've seen so far are the ones who play "rough" and also know exactly where to stand to avoid fire while feeding their heavy or pyro. Also, the best uses of medics I've seen have not necessarily been as feeders for Heavies - I've seen excellent use of a medic/pyro combination on several occasions.

Our dedicated Pyro's primary job is to defend the engineer - he also needs to be able to quickly identify potential spies, especially when the engineer is busy. The pyro must resist the urge to Kamikaze into a group of heavies or soldiers unless it is a desperate last ditch attempt to save a control point or something.

Our dedicated scout/soldier needs to be able to play offensively and have tight, twitch aiming. I've been in several games that were won almost immediately by a skilled scout.

Our dedicated sniper needs to be able to identify the ideal sniping spots and also be quick enough to switch to the SMG in order to tackle opponents close by, and be astute enough to avoid getting backstabbed by spies all the time.

Our dedicated spy needs to know how to effective utilize disguise to prevent detection - how to "act" like the role he is playing. - "Gee, why is there a medic charging balls out at our engineer and turrets?" Also needs to be able to effectively use the cloak and make his primary job eliminating enemy machinery and snipers.

Our dedicated Engineer needs to understand the pivotal role that teleporters can play and know the best spots to put them in. He also needs to understand how critical defensive turrets are. After the turrets are built, maintenance must take second place to defense via shotgun. I've found that the Engineer's pistol is also an effective long range weapon, and have gotten several headshots with it. Engineers also need to be able to identify potential spies and communicate effectively with his defensive pyro to help defend the turrets.

I've got some excellent nominations for who fills these roles for us. Anybody else have any suggestions?

[Lincoln]

I think it's not just a matter of having dedicated roles, but having a primary role and 1-2 secondary roles and have the team be cohesive and coordinated enough to adapt as the situation demands.

[Buddy J]

I think everyone should spawn as Pyros. Let the burninating commence!

[Hawk]

What's the best way to learn the game.
I've got it installed and have set all my keyboard options/headphones/mic etc.
Now, I must learn the game.
What server/servers are you guys using?
Should I learn any specific player/role first?

[Zuntar]

heavy = my style

[fatcat]

!hate all of you!!

20% of TF2 downloaded....

[GHoosdum]

I think it's not just a matter of having dedicated roles, but having a primary role and 1-2 secondary roles and have the team be cohesive and coordinated enough to adapt as the situation demands.

He's right - the key that I've noticed in the most effective teams is that they have a lot of adaptability. There may be a few people who maintain dedicated roles (medic, engineer), but everyone else should be able to play several roles well and switch as the situation changes. Great coordination and communication is also key. The best play sessions I've engaged in had constant communication and well-coordinated assaults and defenses.

Also, if we're going to be building an Icrontic team, we'll need more than one person per role, since we're unlikely to all be able to play at the same time.

[Zanthian]

I had fun chunking Keebs into bits last night on 2Fort while i was waiting to get on your guys team.

[Lincoln]

My team was getting creamed on the granary level by a team of 5 scouts plus support, so I switched to Heavy and started mowing the fidgety ****s down to hold our control points from them until we could push back. :D Perhaps coincidence, but we started winning again :ninja: That, or maybe it's just 'cause mas0n joined my team :cool:

[Zanthian]

How to know when you have played TF2 as an engineer for too long:
You start to wonder how many hits with a wrench it would take to upgrade your car...

[GHoosdum]

I have a pipe wrench I can loan you if you'd care to find out...

[Lincoln]

There was someone named "Martha Stuart" who took out FIVE of my teammates in rapid succession with a wrench. I saw the announcements scroll by and I was dumbfounded. That's when I decided I had to change servers :crazy:

[Buddy J]

Changing servers - It's a good thing. ;)

[Hawk]

There was someone named "Martha Stuart" who took out FIVE of my teammates in rapid succession with a wrench. I saw the announcements scroll by and I was dumbfounded. That's when I decided I had to change servers :crazy:
Hehehe, That's funny.
First time playing last night and I tended to sacrifice myself quite often by jumping into a group of the enemy with a flamethrower and torching them.
(When playing as Pyro)
Also tried Heavy,Sniper,Demoman,,Soldier and Scout.
Seems I did best as scout according to the skill chart the game keeps for you.
But I think I did best as Soldier with the rocket launcher. At least I enjoyed that one most.
Hehehe, If I did any good at all.
I'll definitely have to put more time in and learn some strategy.
Learning the maps is also very helpful.

[Hawk]

Do you guys keep your AVG and Spybot S&D resident running while playing?
Seemed like quite a bit of lag at certain points last night.
Or is that just the steam engine and server being played on.
Funny, because the server scan said I was getting 92 ping on that server.
Which isn't bad as far as ping goes.
I play the original UT all the time on 80-120 ping servers and never lag.

[primesuspect]

It's the server. Source server needs a lot more horsepower than UT dedicated server - source dedicated servers keep track of physics and particle locations for everything going on, every object flying, etc.

There are quite a few underpowered source servers out there.

[Hawk]

Ahh, OK, That would explain it. I guess even as they are, they use quite a bit of bandwidth. lol

[Crazy Joe]

Well I am definitely best so far at the Medic... I love standing behind the big guys and pumping them up... I also can whip out the bonesaw and hack my way though if need be... My record kills as a medic is three I think... TF2 is just sick... Had fun tonight playing with Keebs, Prime and others... It's 11:30 now and I planned on going to bed at 9PM as I was hella tired... Damnit!!

[primesuspect]

It was a long, long match against a very skilled defending team. In the end, with just 1:27 remaining, me (as a spy), Crazy Joe (as a medic) and another spy finally took the last control point. It was the most drawn out and tactical match I've ever played.

Great work to all involved :D

[Cyclonite]

Will you all be playing tonight? From the looks of it, I probably don't need to ask that question, though.

[primesuspect]

oh no, we won't be playing at all until 3:30am est

[Cyclonite]

Haha. I guess I won't have to pull myself away from Halo, then...

[Sledgehammer70]

Got the game and am ready to own... along with playing Halo 3 last night at Howies we also played TF2 which was beyond sweet...

[mas0n]

I haven't played in 24 hours and i'm starting to twitch.

[Winfrey]

I haven't played in 24 hours and i'm starting to twitch.

shoulda played last night!

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197982326544

The soldier is officially my fav class of the game. Especially on Well. Whats that demoman? You wanna hidey out on the roof?

*boom!* Rocket Jump!

now you get shanked by my shovel!:bigggrin:

[GHoosdum]

Whats that demoman? You wanna hidey out on the roof?

*boom!* Rocket Jump!

now you get shanked by my shovel!

I don't know about that, I'm quickly gaining respect for the demoman as perhaps the most dangerous SOB in the game. A demoman like mas0n could probably pick you out of the air with a grenade before you reached the roof. ;)

[Winfrey]

I don't know about that, I'm quickly gaining respect for the demoman as perhaps the most dangerous SOB in the game. A demoman like mas0n could probably pick you out of the air with a grenade before you reached the roof. ;)

Mas0n is a freak of nature with the demoman, he doesn't count.:tongue:

[Lincoln]

Haha. I guess I won't have to pull myself away from Halo, then...He means that's when it will END, not START ;)
I haven't played in 24 hours and i'm starting to twitch.
I KNOW, where were you?? OMG.
I don't know about that, I'm quickly gaining respect for the demoman as perhaps the most dangerous SOB in the game. A demoman like mas0n could probably pick you out of the air with a grenade before you reached the roof. ;)I too enjoy demoman A LOT. I played engineer a couple times last night because the level required it, but Demoman is my current favorite. Mas0n and I pwned faces as demomen Monday :D

[GHoosdum]

I noticed that you do a lot of squatting as a demoman, Keebs... is that how you make your bombs?

[lemonlime]

I noticed that you do a lot of squatting as a demoman, Keebs... is that how you make your bombs?

;D

[Cyclonite]

He means that's when it will END, not START ;)

I know. I was being facetious. I forgot the smiley. ;)

I'll be on tonight. I hope I can keep up!

[primesuspect]

Demoman is the class I've played the least.

I really enjoy being an engineer, because I believe that tactical use of teleporters and dispensers can make or break a mission.

Of course, tactical use of medics/heavies can make or break a mission

But then, tactical use of spies can definitely make or break a mission.

Tactical use of snipers... oh crap, you get the idea. This is such a well balanced game, every class is totally useful and necessary :D

[Sledgehammer70]

I have added just about everyone to my Steam friends list :) I'll be ready to play when i get home from drawing boxes :)

[primesuspect]

I love steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/icrontic/stats/TF2

[QCH]

Can I be added to the Icrontic group? PLEASE... :respect:

[mas0n]

I KNOW, where were you?? OMG.

in the past 48 hours my car has been stolen, cleaned out, recovered by the police and everything in between. In the words of GHoosdum, I'd rather have been sniping.

Mas0n is a freak of nature with the demoman, he doesn't count.:tongue:

I really need to work on another class tho. I've found that a good scout who is not caught by surprise should kill a demoman almost every single time, especially if we are out in the open. Best case scenario is I kill us both. Part of the great balance in this game.

[mas0n]

As you can see, my playtime per class is a little unbalanced :D

http://steamcommunity.com/id/mas0n/stats/TF2

[primesuspect]

hahah wow... No medical help from you, I see ;D

[mas0n]

hahah wow... No medical help from you, I see ;D

Hey, I played a medic for 54 seconds, thank you very much! :tongue:

[CB]

I feel like I'm best with the medic, but very few of my 'mosts' are with that class.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/cbdroege/stats/TF2

Medic just isn't a high scoring class...

[Lincoln]

Hey, I played a medic for 54 seconds, thank you very much! :tongue:
My 46 seconds (http://steamcommunity.com/id/generalkeebler/stats/TF2) weren't very productive ;D

[primesuspect]

Ah, but I see you DID "Dominate" with a medic once ;D

[primesuspect]

Can I be added to the Icrontic group? PLEASE... :respect:

It seems you're in the group now.

[QCH]

WHoooo.... now I just need to save up for TF2!!! :D

[CB]

Can I be added to the Icrontic group? PLEASE... :respect:

Gotcha!

Ah, but I see you DID "Dominate" with a medic once ;D


Even I was surprised when that happened... :)

[Sledgehammer70]

awww am I in?

edit: yup I'm in :)

[Cyclonite]

I just played a few rounds. That was fun. Not sure what class I'll ultimately like, but I know I suck with all the ones I played. ;)

[fatcat]

I played demo-man last night...tonight will be something new...maybe a domokun

[Crazy Joe]

I find it rather funny that my most damage was with a medic... Must have been that 6 minute run with three kills, three assists and a domination... And a nice tidy 1962 health healed... I am a force with the bone saw... I'll cuttabitch!!

[primesuspect]

Nothing is more frustrating than seeing your team get DECIMATED time and time again, and see them keep trying the same failing strategy time and time again, and then TELLING them: "Hey guys, we need to try this. See what the other team keeps doing and see how we lose every time?" and then having them reply with things like:

"**** off"

"Shut up"

"It's just a public server. Who gives a ****"

"**** you, noob"

"*******"

etc.

:shakehead

[Winfrey]

**** off!:bigggrin:

Don't let the nubs get to ya prime:cool2:

[primesuspect]

**** you, you ****ing nub ****!!! :D

[Lincoln]

But it was so fun pwning your faces 8 times in a row... :D

[Cyclonite]

I had a blast last night! I totally sucked at it, but I had fun. Sorry to anyone who had me on their team. ;)

[Winfrey]

I had a blast last night! I totally sucked at it, but I had fun. Sorry to anyone who had me on their team. ;)

apology accepted:D

You'll get better pretty quick Cyclonite. I've been playing TFC, TFF, for about a month before TF2 finally got released. So I got a head start on yeh!

[Zuntar]

The combo strategy of medic and heavy is crucial. When I've played heavy and had a medic stick to me, I was able to annihilate a fair amount and push them back, but if all alone I would get taken out by demoman and snipers left and right. It got so frustrating after a while I switched to a medic and stuck with the heavy and/ or the engineer.

[Cyclonite]

I haven't tried the medic yet. Maybe I'll be better in that role. I also need to stop running into things that go boom.

[primesuspect]

I primarily play Engineer, and I constantly marvel at the people who insist on running into an area that is covered by my sentry, getting mowed down by it (of course, trying to take a potshot at it), and then respawning and trying the same tactic again. And again. And again. As if somehow he'll be able to avoid the sentry fire if he just moves this way instead of that way.... :rolleyes:

[Winfrey]

I got pretty good with the soldier. Reached 16 kills in one life last night, but the only reason that happened was because my medic was AMAZING! I mean every time I called for him I would almost instantly get a health boost and I got ubered like 3 times. Never underestimate the value of a good medic.

[Thrax]

Despite making people explode in < 1 second in TF with the sniper, I find that I'm not very good with it in TF2. I am, however, getting very good with the demoman which was a class I hated in TF. I'm also getting very good with the spy.

I will persist with my efforts in Sniping, however.

[Hawk]

Got knocked off the other night and couldn't figure out what happened!
Long story short bellsouth changed my connection, saying I called and ordered a change on my account. Which I didn't. It was a billing office error.
So, As of tonight I'll have DSL Extreme 6.0 MBps for $18 less than I was paying for DSL Extreme 3.0 per mnth. And I'll be getting a $24 credit for having to pay $55 for 3.0 when the price dropped to $37 and they never notified me or gave me the drop in price because I didn't call and ask for it.

[TBonZ]

Just pre-ordered TF2, hope to join you boys soon! :D

[mas0n]

played mostly medic last night and actually found it's really fun. Nothing quite like coming out of an über with your bonesaw flailing. :)

[Lincoln]

It's time. :ninja:

[primesuspect]

For you :-/

[TBonZ]

It's time. :ninja:

I'm at 42% d'load. In advance, am I supposed to submit my Steam ID to be added to IC?

Edit - 1 hour later, 63%. :sawed:

[RiversCuomo]

Thanks for the games last night, I had a lot of fun. I had been playing TF2 A LOT lately, but Halo 3 recently came out, so I've been playing a lot of that too. I'll catch you all on there again soon.

[the_technocrat]

this game is funny, i got lost on the map i was trying out tho

[RyderOCZ]

90% downloaded ;) ;D

I will practice before I join you guys...because I will suck :(

Next question. This machine only has an X1800XL installed....should I get something with more beef?

[Qeldroma]

TF2 will be the death of me

Actually ... of the news forum ... ;D

[primesuspect]

Yeah news has been a little slow lately :eek3: it's a twofold problem: I've been crazy busy at work (and thus unable to post newsbits from there) and then... Well, yeah... TF2.... :-/

[Lincoln]

I will practice before I join you guys...because I will suckJoining us = practice = joining us. You can't get good by running around alone on some level. I was trying to dissuade TT of the same thing today - just join in the fragging fun and learn as you go :D It isn't a matter of life and death ;D

[fatcat]

if i can play the game.....anyone can play :cheers:

[primesuspect]

We kicked some major ass tonight, guys :D

we successfully defended our control point for over 20 minutes - thanks to our well coordinated teamwork.

Props to Winfrey (Freec), CB Droege (our MVP!), Fatcat (newly a kickass medic), Keebler (patience!), and of course mas0n who pwned faces.

[Winfrey]

ya I couldn't believe we held that after we had failed to defend all the other maps so miserably.:sawed:

That last dash was pretty epic...until Hell's Organs were unleashed!:cool:

[fatcat]

90% downloaded ;) ;D

I will practice before I join you guys...because I will suck :(

Next question. This machine only has an X1800XL installed....should I get something with more beef?

my iMac has a x1600...you'll be fine.

and I can't wait to drop a bomb on ur arse!

[rolleggroll]

Any room for some fresh blood? I am extremely bad at shooters....But the premise of playing medic seems very tempting. Excuse my ignorance, but how do I join the team?

EDIT:: http://steamcommunity.com/id/EmbersRed Could anyone add me please whenever they have the time? You'll see me in game after the add running around as the medic that looks like a chicken with its head cut off.

[Zuntar]

How do the invites work? As in if I receive an invite from person A and accept it, that person shows up on my friends list, but do I show up on there friends list?

[CB]

It's always mutual. If they're on your list, you're on their list.

[Annes]

You GUUUYSSS....stop temping me :( I don't have time for another game in my life. *throws fit*

*goes to pre-order orange box*

<-- will see all you punks tonight, hopefully.

[mas0n]

Gotta love the weekend! I'll be on overnight Friday - Saturday and most of Sunday, and pretty much anytime the wife isn't attempting to pull me out of my chair. See you all soon:ninja:

[Zanthian]

Here are some useful scripts for everyone to check out:
http://tf2wiki.net/index.php/Community_Scripts

[Thrax]

You GUUUYSSS....stop temping me :( I don't have time for another game in my life. *throws fit*

*goes to pre-order orange box*

<-- will see all you punks tonight, hopefully.

You can play WoW and TF2. I balance two 70s, a 60, and raiding with work, TF2, and D&D.

MULTI-TASK, ANNE.

[GHoosdum]

Here are some useful scripts for everyone to check out:
http://tf2wiki.net/index.php/Community_Scripts

ZOMG HAXX!

[Zanthian]

ZOMG HAXX!
It's a legitimate strategy! ;)

[Hawk]

Here are some useful scripts for everyone to check out:
http://tf2wiki.net/index.php/Community_Scripts

Where do we find the scripts and change them?
I'd like to implement the rocket jump script.
BTW thanks for the info.

[Hawk]

Found out....

<steam folder="">\SteamApps\<account_name>account name\team fortress 2\tf\cfg\config.cfg
Now all I have to do is figure out what to use to open and edit script files.
I know I can open it with notepad, but will that work for writing a new file?
</account_name></steam>

[CB]

It's a legitimate strategy! ;)

Nope. These scripts would be cheating.

[Thrax]

No, they're called scripts, and call game functions to automate tasks. They've been used and encouraged by developers on any game that owes its existence to Quake 1 in any way.

That is to say, Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, HL, HL2, and any game running those engines have offered this functionality.

Is a batch file cheating in Windows?

[Zuntar]

:scratch::wtf:

[CB]

No, they're called scripts, and call game functions to automate tasks. They've been used and encouraged by developers on any game that owes its existence to Quake 1 in any way.

That is to say, Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, HL, HL2, and any game running those engines have offered this functionality.

Is a batch file cheating in Windows?

Windows is not a game.

[Buddy J]

Neither is TF2. It's a mod ;)

[Thrax]

I've met a couple people over the years who try to tow the "It's cheating" line, and I can't see how it's anything but patently false when the functionality is programmed and encouraged by the game's developers.

[RyderOCZ]

Add me to the group please.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ryderocz

[primesuspect]

done!

[primesuspect]

CB Droege is our player of the week (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/icrontic/announcements/detail/108177038160918939). :)

I knew it was right when Winfrey (Freec) said "Man, we would have won if CB had been here"..... :thumbsup:

[Winfrey]

Mad props to CB, sir:respect:

[Lincoln]

i just turned it off....

...it's like awakening from a stupor...

gum wrappers everywhere... remainder of popcorn... beer bottles... :eek3:

My eyes are sore... i can barely move my legs... omfg im going to sleep until dinner :zombie:

[Zuntar]

Ahh yes, to be young and single! Alas my a$$ was in bed at 10:00. :eek:

5:00 am comes early.....oh you should know, thats about when you went to bed!!!:tongue:




AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRHHHHHGGGG:mad2::mean::grr::sawed:

F'n A$$#011 ^&%$#@$#%& ()(^$#378 (*%%!!!!!!!!!!!

Some other...... individual... has apparently taken a liking to my name (identity) and created a steam identity of Zuntar!

MY online/gaming name for the last 10+ years has been Zuntar. Everything everywhere, always Zuntar.

My steam identity "link" is now THE-Zuntar. However my login name is zuntar, not Zuntar...... Bastard.

Side note: Sledge you have the fake Zuntar as a friend, not the real one. Sorry chief!

[CB]

CB Droege is our player of the week (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/icrontic/announcements/detail/108177038160918939). :)

I knew it was right when Winfrey (Freec) said "Man, we would have won if CB had been here"..... :thumbsup:

Thanks. :)

[Annes]

So I have a steam account (StainMeNow, of course). And I pre-ordered and started the download last night. It goes painfully slow, so I decide to sleep on it. I wake up, and it's only 61% and has ceased downloading.

I hate steam :( but I did restart steam and download started up again, so we'll see where it is tonight. I want in!

[broady81]

Can you add me the the group please (broady81) :bigggrin: I reinstalled Steam and am planning on purchasing TF2 (or the beta) asap :cool2:

[RiversCuomo]

Throw me an invite please. User name is "Aseir."

[fatcat]

ah, had my greatest moment yet!

was sitting up on a walkway near the other teams capture point as a pyro...no one saw me...then i got a medic on my back and we go uber!..i jumped down and layed the other team and the capture point to waste! its was such a pleasure burning the other team like little marshmellows ;)

[Lincoln]

omfg im going to sleep until dinner :zombie:
That was true. I did that.

[CB]

Disadvantage to the, otherwise really nice, internal team-speak option:

Asshats who use it to have lengthy conversations that (I guess) they think the rest of the team wants to hear.

I was on a server just now, along with Hawk, when these two chuckle-heads started going on to each other about how much better TFC is compared to TF2. A couple of times they talked over important team communication. After a couple of minutes, I asked them nicely to have their conversation off of the team channel, and the started insulting me and cursing at me. One of them even called me a 'construction worker' whatever that's supposed to mean.

It's too bad there is no way to enforce the channel's use for actual game-play. I just quit that server because they were just too annoying to stay in the same server with... That shouldn't happen...

[Thrax]

I just turn team chat off. And use ventrilo.

[fatcat]

as long as humans exist, idiots will also

[primesuspect]

**** YOU NUB@!

[Winfrey]

OMG! Pyro's are freaking ridiculous now. They gotta fix them somehow and I have a few suggestions

*Less Ammo
*slower
*Less damage
*Shorter range
*Shorter burn duration
*Less health

I think tweaking the damage is the best of those options because right now 2 sec of flame and your dead and that is just crazy. Pyro's shouldn't be able to kill faster than a heavy. Fix that and they'ed be more balanced. Right now though a **** load of Pyro's will win any game end of story.

[primesuspect]

Okay, so I think the consensus is that the Pyro is now a bit too powerful. Damage is insane, they seem to walk a little faster, and their range has been increased. A team consisting of 3-5 pyros and 3 medics can scythe through basically anything and there's just no stopping them.

Anyways, some pics:

The night CB got nominated player of the week. See all the names? Icrontic was pwning:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/icrontic_rules_tf2.jpg

I got completely blown apart :D

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/kilt.jpg

Zanthian takes a superhero flying leap after destroying me:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/zanthian-is-looking-good!.jpg

Let me tell you, there is nothing worse than seeing this: It makes you feel like an..... idiot:

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/idiot_slayer-is-looking-good!.jpg

An almost impenetrable defense: They can't even leave their bunker

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/cp_dustbowl0002.jpg

[Lincoln]

I seem to have had a slight clipping problem - bodies (including my own) would plummet through the ground after dying:

http://icrontic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=24073&stc=1&d=1191127830

http://icrontic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=24074&stc=1&d=1191127830


I kept seeing arms, heads and torsos sinking through the ground and/or rolling around like they were caught in waves :eek3:

[primesuspect]

those maps look awesome from that angle!

[fatcat]

must be that 2900XT....:scratch:

[Thrax]

It's so good you can see the entire battle!

[Gargoyle]

GG tonight, fellas (and laaady). My computer eventually locked up, and I decided to call it a night after that.

Well, actually, I called it a night after I finished beating my computer with a stick and yelling at it for cutting me off before I'd gotten my fix. I'm sure that was the sensible thing to do. Felt right at the time.

[Snarkasm]

I needs an invite to ze IC clan! Same name on Steam as on here, mjancaitis. Let me in, let me in, let me in! I don't play sooooooo much, but I might with the right prodding from a certain group...

[primesuspect]

Invite sent!

[Snarkasm]

And received. Many thanks!

[Hawk]

Disadvantage to the, otherwise really nice, internal team-speak option:

Asshats who use it to have lengthy conversations that (I guess) they think the rest of the team wants to hear.

I was on a server just now, along with Hawk, when these two chuckle-heads started going on to each other about how much better TFC is compared to TF2. A couple of times they talked over important team communication. After a couple of minutes, I asked them nicely to have their conversation off of the team channel, and the started insulting me and cursing at me. One of them even called me a 'construction worker' whatever that's supposed to mean.

It's too bad there is no way to enforce the channel's use for actual game-play. I just quit that server because they were just too annoying to stay in the same server with... That shouldn't happen...


Yea CB,
They were a couple of dopes. Even after you left they kept on so after another 5mins I jumped all over them and left also. I was hoping none of our group was there because of the way I cut loose on those idiots.
BTW, thnx for all the uber health bud!
I had a great time playin last night with all you guys.
I did notice being killed by Gen Keebs quite a few times and prime.
Dogs were always jumpin on the opposing team just to kill the slow Hawk! J/K
Come to find out my mouse was blinking red begging me for a charge most of the night. It was almost dead because I played 5 hrs during the day (then eat,sleep for an hr or two, back to the game) from 7pm till 1 am. Hehehe, When I finished I couldn't walk (knees were close to being locked up) Shoulders were in an excruciating knot..etc,etc,etc. through the rest of my body! LOL
My wife came in and asked me if I was OK a couple of times after hearing me yelling and pounding the keyboard for more speed!
And damning all those that killed me previously. Hahaha What fun!
I think it went best when someone took the lead and choreographed the attacks or defenses of the team as a whole though..
Seemed we won the most then.

[Hawk]

Are all you guys using Sledges Server Teamspeak now?
If so, What do you do for the game strategy? As far as hearing someone calling the team to attack or defend?
I can see that it will work if we had a complete team of our own group, but that rarely happens.
CB, I think that's probably our answer to the knotheads that don't understand the object of voice channel for strategy of the game.
Then again just blocking those individuals on the speech channel would work too. Or just leaving the server as we did. I wish the server admin would just kick the offending players, but that prob wouldn't happen.
Keebs, I saw the pics of you falling through the ground. Cool looking pics! What a view! Interesting seeing the map from that angle..
prime, Saw your pics too, I love when I get killed and it shows head here,leg here,more bits there!!! Sooo humiliating... hehehe

[GHoosdum]

Aw shoot guys, looks like all the fun happened after I went to bed at 12:30! :(

I think I picked up a few more Achievements yesterday though, Impenetrable Defense came from one of the rounds with Keebs I'm pretty sure.

And yes, the Pyro has been made insane.

[Lincoln]

I've got all but 3 achievements:

- Master of Disguise
- Team Doctor
- Head of the Class

I never play as Medic or Spy, so that pretty much nixes getting those for a while ;D

[Lincoln]

I broke its spell! I'm working on the site! :eek3:

[Gargoyle]

I broke its spell!

That should be an Achievement.

[primesuspect]

Same here! I took a shower!

[Winfrey]

I broke its spell! I'm working on the site! :eek3:

JOIN US KEEBS...:zombie:

ONE OF US, ONE OF US!

[primesuspect]

we got ****ing n00bed tonight :-/

team IC definitely needs some practice :(

[primesuspect]

lol, look at how happy Fatcat is to kill me, though :p

http://icrontic.com/images/prime/happy-fatcat.jpg

[fatcat]

we got ****ing n00bed tonight :-/

team IC definitely needs some practice :(

yes we do...

"UBER ME!"

"UBER ME I KNOW YOUR 100%"

"UBER!!!!!"

(stabbed in back by spy)

dead.

[primesuspect]

I watched that go down too. :-/

And then I was thinking - WHY THE **** ARE THEY SUICIDE RUSHING OUT THE DOOR. There was a lvl 3 sentry pointing at their faces!?!?!

Everyone's a hero :-/

[GHoosdum]

I guess you guys started playing after I left... I missed the action again!

We did get to play with Hawk for a while though. In one round he was the last man left alive during sudden death. When the enemies finally took him out, the last thing we hear over teamspeak before level change is, "I just got killed by Helen Keller!"

See Hawk, you mastered the game's short learning curve and now you get to be the last man standing when we get pwned. ;)

[TBonZ]

Hey all. First, not sure if I have been given an invite yet but if not, please do send.

Second, I cannot play the game yet due to needing a better PCI-E video card. What would you peeps recommend for playing this game? I'm not a big gamer so really, all I need is one that will play this game at 1680X1050 with high settings. I don't want to break the bank but get something that will handle this game comfortably. Also, I'm only running a 480W Tt PSU.

[Thrax]

7900GT, 8600GT, 7950GT, 7950GX2 (Used), etc.

[GHoosdum]

I'm running the game with a 7600GT. I left it at default setting, and frankly it looks great at 1024x768; with the cartoony graphics in this game the resolution doesn't seem to make much of a difference to my eyes.

[primesuspect]

It runs really well on older and budget video cards. Runs great on 6600GT, 7600GS, I've seen these two with mine own eyes :)

[mas0n]

Keebler! I am having the same clipping problem as you now. Doesn't really bother me so much as it only affects ME when I die, and it's kind of funny that if anyone above me dies they all rain down through the ceiling and then float around on the floor!

Just wanted to let you know that A) you are not the only one and B) I have an 8800GTS so it's not just a GPU/driver issue.

[Lincoln]

It only happened to me on that one map - I assumed it had to do with the server we were on. Is it happening all the time for you?

[Gargoyle]

I'm running the game with a 7600GT. I left it at default setting, and frankly it looks great at 1024x768; with the cartoony graphics in this game the resolution doesn't seem to make much of a difference to my eyes.

That's what I'm doing, too. My native resolution is 1600x1200, but in FPS games, I can't notice that I'm not using the LCD's native res. I could probably crank up the res a bit, but I haven't bothered (I run 1600x1200 in HL2, so I'm assuming I could in TF2).

[mas0n]

It only happened to me on that one map - I assumed it had to do with the server we were on. Is it happening all the time for you?

Happened to me on several maps, but all on the same server we were playing last night. I will try more servers later today.

[Hawk]

I guess you guys started playing after I left... I missed the action again!

We did get to play with Hawk for a while though. In one round he was the last man left alive during sudden death. When the enemies finally took him out, the last thing we hear over teamspeak before level change is, "I just got killed by Helen Keller!"

See Hawk, you mastered the game's short learning curve and now you get to be the last man standing when we get pwned. ;)

Hahaha, I didn't know I was the last man standing at that point...
But, It just ate me up to be killed by Helen Keller!!!!
I busted out laughing hysterically when I saw the screen say YOU WERE KILLED BY HELEN KELLER! That's when I humbly told everyone.

Hey TBonZ,
I'm running an Abit AN7 MB,Athlon XP 3200+, FSB speed 411, core speed 2260 Mhz, , 2G OCZ PC3200, AGP ATI Radeon X1600 / 256MB at 1024X768. Never have any problems running this game.

[TBonZ]

Very good, thanks for the suggestions all. I came across a used Asus 7900GT for $150 CDN just yesterday. Not sure if that's a little pricey or not for a discontinued card but I think it was in the $220 range when it was new. I'll have to do a bit of digging to see if it's worth it.

Edit - Found that the card retailed for $350 when introduced, I think I may have to snatch it up. What do guys think? Fair price?

[GHoosdum]

That sounds like a very nice price to me. The 7900GT will run this game very well at high settings.

[TBonZ]

That sounds like a very nice price to me. The 7900GT will run this game very well at high settings.

Right after work I'm going to pick it up. See you guys tonight. :D

[primesuspect]

tbonz, is your steam name tbonz? :D

[TBonZ]

tbonz, is your steam name tbonz? :D

Yessir, with a capital T, B & Z. :D

Got my card, w00t!!!

[TBonZ]

As expected I had my @ss handed to me over and over. Damn you Thrax, everytime I turn around you're putting a knife in my back....annoying as all heck. I really do need to practice and I feel I'm way behind the rest of you. Never got into playing TF1 so it's pretty much like starting from scratch.

It should get easier as I learn the maps as I was running around not knowing where everything is. Would be nice to have some practices and get some strategies down. Also, I need to change my crosshairs. Was having a heck of a time with the default crosshair.

Oh yeah, that card I bought was actually an Asus EN7900GS/TOP which is an overclocked version of the base GS model. It is actually much faster than the GT but there isn't really any room left to o/c it more. I'm happy with it's performance and seems to more than sufficient to run most games out there on the highest resolution and detail settings.

[Zanthian]

http://bbspot.com/News/2007/10/stop_playing_matrix_img.gif

[primesuspect]

I never played TF1, Terry. I know your pain. Knowing the maps helps. But I kept getting knifed in the back by sir Thrax as well :-/

I had a distinct feeling last night that Thrax's strategy was more geared towards stabbing me and keebler in the back than actually attempting to capture points for his team ;)

[Thrax]

Your feeling is incorrect. My goal last night was to take out engineering objects, but since you like to whore turrets and Keebs likes to camp the entrance with a Demo, it equated to me stabbing both of you quite often.

Spies are terrible flag cappers; great chaos-causers. In 2Fort, there was a time on the balcony when I cleared it out of 3 snipers and a heavy, allowing our team to move across mid. It was great.

Anyhow, my strategy for spy is pretty pointed (Which I won't detail; I have priority targets and destinations for all the maps), but you two were kept trying to stop me, so I figured I might as well go down stabbing.

[primesuspect]

as an engineer, what else can I do but whore turrets once my teleports and dispenser are up? :p

Really there was a point where I felt that the backstab you did me wasn't strategically sound (I can feel your facial muscles twitching)... At some point I said to you: "Was it worth it, Thrax"? Because I knew you went out of your way to stab me.

You said: "Definitely"

Come on, your integrity as a Spy for Blue is not in question here, just admit you went out of your way to kill me at least one time :crazy:

[Lincoln]

Thrax stabbed me twice as Demo. I blew him up at least half a dozen times. 'Nuff said. :rarr:

[Zanthian]

I had a great time booby trapping the entrance to our base as a demoman and gibbing tons of scouts and spies as they ran past in 2Fort last night. Ah the simple pleasures in life. ;)

[Cyclonite]

I think I'm going to be able to join in again tonight. I look forward to be blown to pieces. :)

[GHoosdum]

Dang, all I did last night was watch the Bengals lose. Maybe I should have played TF2 instead. Sounds like you needed a pyro at your side to catch Sir Stabsalot on fire.

[Thrax]

as an engineer, what else can I do but whore turrets once my teleports and dispenser are up? :p

Really there was a point where I felt that the backstab you did me wasn't strategically sound (I can feel your facial muscles twitching)... At some point I said to you: "Was it worth it, Thrax"? Because I knew you went out of your way to stab me.

You said: "Definitely"

Come on, your integrity as a Spy for Blue is not in question here, just admit you went out of your way to kill me at least one time :crazy:

At that point, I remember that, I was trying to get to your sentry gun, but there were about 4 people up there all spamming their weapons. So I had two options:

1) Go down without destroying anyone/anything
2) Stab someone to atleast nab a kill from the effort

You were the closest person. If ANYONE asked me that question, the answer will <i>always</i> be "Yes." It's very satisfying to stab someone or sap a turret.

[primesuspect]

you just won't admit it... :p

[Thrax]

There's nothing to admit.

You just have this bad habit of getting focused on an interpretation/analysis you think is right, and then you badger people in an attempt to get people to admit your interpretation/analysis is right. When it's not. You do it all the time. ;D

[primesuspect]

Just admit it. :D

[Thrax]

See: Above. :)