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Thrax
30 Jan 2008, 07:39pm
The captcha: An image that contains a <i>picture</i> of letters or numbers, generated at random, that a user must type into a box to continue.

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Most internet registrations now boast a captcha, long thought to be a sure-fire way to foil spambots and other automated registrants. Russian hackers, however, have devised a way to accurately guess (http://gizmodo.com/350578/spambots-can-now-fool-yahoo-captcha-tests-yes-worry) the captcha with up to 35% accuracy. With the ability to process thousands of attempts per minute, the practical 100,000:1 odds of finding a success really isn't all that slim.

Leonardo
30 Jan 2008, 07:48pm
So, what will be the counterstep? More sophisticated captchas. Some of them are already difficult enough that I sometimes need two or three tries at some sites I log into.

Kwitko
30 Jan 2008, 08:01pm
The counter to the captcha is to use a question that cannot be answered by a bot. A simple fill-in-the-blank type of thing. Keebs instituted something like that for IC. Not sure if we're still using it tho'.

yagga
31 Jan 2008, 02:02am
Yeah, I hate them. Can we have an end to them once and for all? Then them Russians wasted all their precious time on a worthless cause, hehe...

umm.. and I sometimes need several attempts as well, sometimes don't notice them, and don't get me started on ones so poorly designed that they use every lower case letter, upper case letter, and number so that a whole bunch of the digits end up looking identical.

RWB
31 Jan 2008, 03:55am
There have been captcha's that I could read but couldn't get right due to capitalization or mixing up o's with 0's. I think if they went with Hex it wouldn't be as big of a deal for those of us who know a 0 from a O in terms of hex if you get my point(there is no 'O'). Still I recall a blog a while back I didn't agree with initially that said that you shouldn't use these extreme measures becuase you're punishing the user to stop the spammer. One thing I like is the simple random question thing I see popping up that asks if you are human or if you are a robot or something else that is easy to answer. Although it's annoying when they mix the random question with the captcha you have to keep trying on which you don't realize the question is random so when you mess up the captcha you might get it right the second time but you answered the random question the same way you did the last time and gotta do it all over again.... PLUS adding in other annoyances like having to retype your password twice, and any other item you gotta retype all over again. God forbid you make one more mistake.

This is why I don't register for things anymore, I am so sick of it and leave it to only when I really really really need something.

Keebler
31 Jan 2008, 04:19am
Yes, we still use the question. Our random question is the sequence 1, 2, 3, 4 and one of the numbers is missing and you need to fill it in. Between that, the CAPTCHA, and the IsBot, there's 0 bots getting through.

Gnome Queen
31 Jan 2008, 07:44am
That's what you think. I'm actually a bot. U BUY PLAT NOW!!1111!11111111ONEHUNDRED!!1111