Metal Gear Solid 4 [Archive]

Canti

27 May 2008, 6:07am

I've NEVER been so excited about the release of a game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02SIUaFXqI0
June 12th will be a great day.

MAGIC

27 May 2008, 6:14am

yah, im pretty glad i bought a ps3 for that game.

Snarkasm

27 May 2008, 6:39am

There've been widely-reported rumors of 90-minute cutscenes. Not 90 minutes OF cutscenes.... not 90-minute cutscene.... 90-minute cutscenes.

Still looking forward to it.

FelixDeSouze

27 May 2008, 12:14pm

90 minutes?!?!? Blimey, I would love to play this game MGS FTW but unfortunately I do not hav a PS3! :(

GrayFox

27 May 2008, 12:44pm

I just put my macbook up on craigslist so I can afford a ps2 and this game...

Also im playing through mgs, mgs2 and mgs3 till its out.

Im far too much of a metal gear solid fanboy -_-

Im also getting the ps3 mainly for this game.

primesuspect

27 May 2008, 2:03pm

PREFACE: I know nothing about MGS.

For such a big budget game, that voice acting is TERRIBLE. Wtf.

Gate28

27 May 2008, 2:56pm

MSG voice acting has always been bad, but not bad enough to keep anyone from playing, a lot of the time its laughable a la 'You like Castlevania, don't you? hmmhmm'

Winfrey

27 May 2008, 5:10pm

Do you even have a PS3 canti? Maybe one of our J-staff will have one and we can just "acquire" it :bigggrin:

Canti

27 May 2008, 8:11pm

I wouldn't say MGS voice acting is great but it's far from bad. Resident Evil games (which I love) have BAD voice acting and there are games even worse. But I would rather have the original voice actors back than see them try to use big name actors over the ones MGS fans have come to know and love. (Anyone other than David Hayter voicing Snake would be a tragedy.) As far as 90 minute cutscenes go I say bring'em on, hell the ending could be 3 hours long and I wouldn't mind as long as it stays interesting and finally answers all the questions they left at the end of MGS2. I just hope they allow you to save at any point during the cutscenes. Metal Gear has long been more about storytelling than anything else. The gameplay is looking better than ever as well, I hear you can still play the game mostly by sneaking past enemies and avoiding firefights but people who always wanted to blast their way through the game will be able to do so. (This will be harder but you'll have more options than run or have your ass handed to you as in the first 3 games.)

Long story short, I freaking love Metal Gear Solid. And you should too :). If you've never played MGS I can't recommend any other series more highly.

And no Winfrey I don't have a PS3. Still gonna reserved a copy in Clinton before I go to camp :bigggrin:. I hope I can find a J-staff to confiscate a PS3 from but if not that's ok. I don't think I'll have the time I'd like to play it during the summer anyway but I figure I waited about 7 years since MGS2 I can wait another month and a half.

One last thing because I couldn't resist, referring to post #5,
GRAY FOX!? It can't be!

primesuspect

28 May 2008, 12:29am

wait... is there a MGS3? You keep mentioning 2

UPSWeezer

28 May 2008, 12:46am

Yeah. I have the third.

Snarkasm

28 May 2008, 1:15am

There's actually TWO MGS3s, aren't there? Subsistence and Snake Eater or something?

airbornflght

28 May 2008, 5:03am

I don't know. There have been tons of metal gears. I started with tactical espionage because it looked like a cool game when I was like 11 years old. I fell in love with the game. The it all got fuzzy. They had vr missions which I really didn't like that much. After that I played MGS2 which was amazing, but after that I never heard of anything else except for the demo of snake eater which wasn't really all that impressive to me.

Canti

28 May 2008, 5:46am

Ok, Metal Gear series breakdown.

Metal Gear - NES game, takes place in 1995

Metal Gear 2 - MSX2 game, takes place in 1997

Metal Gear Solid - PS1 game, takes place in 2005

Metal Gear Solid : The Twin Snakes - Gamecube game, remake of the original Metal Gear Solid. (Released between 2 and 3)

Metal Gear Solid 2 : Sons Of Liberty / Substance - PS2 game, first half takes place in 2007, second half in 2009. (Substance was released after Sons Of Liberty, it's the same game but with a few hundred training missions, cutscene theater, skateboard mini-game and some other added bonuses.)

Metal Gear Solid 3 : Snake Eater / Subsistance - PS2 game, takes place in 1964. (Subsistence like Substance is the original game with bonus material. MGS3 goes back in time and tells the story of Solid Snake's father, Big Boss, who Snake killed in Metal Gear 2. It only helps explain a few things that happen later in the series and is more of a standalone story. My personal favorite not just of the series but of any game I ever played. The ending has been known to make even the manliest men cry like little girls, this may include me :(, seriously though it's pretty damn tragic.)

Metal Gear Solid 4 : Guns Of The Patriots - PS3 game, takes place in 2014. (What happens? Who knows! Probably everything imaginable.)

There are a few spin-off games but they don't follow or fit in with the main story.

Winfrey

28 May 2008, 5:51am

The NES version was OMGWTF hard. I got halfway through a level, sneaking past all the guards, and with the next checkpoint in sight I got eaten by a dog.

I cried.

Crazy Joe

1 Jun 2008, 4:50pm

Indeed. I remember the first one on NES. I played that forever and still never beat it.

GrayFox

1 Jun 2008, 8:00pm

Gate28

1 Jun 2008, 8:39pm

im going to get a PS3 today and pre-order this game, i <3 solid snake

Nomad

2 Jun 2008, 12:41am

Looks really bad, and a terrible trailer at that.

UPSWeezer

2 Jun 2008, 1:19am

Looks really bad, and a terrible trailer at that.
What's with the negativity?

shwaip

2 Jun 2008, 2:10am

hd version of trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25139.html

also

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23998.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21612.html

Nomad

2 Jun 2008, 3:44pm

What's with the negativity?

I'm a big fan of MGS for PSX, and even liked Sons of Liberty a lot--but the recent installments have been hokey, this appears to be more of the same.

airbornflght

2 Jun 2008, 11:37pm

Yeh, but you can't make that judgement from a trailer. I'll give it a chance. Probably rent it before I buy it though.

UPSLynx

3 Jun 2008, 5:35pm

ITT - Canti knows his stuff.

I'm VERY excited about this game as well. I ve been a big fan of the MGS series since i first played MGS on my PS1. The game was WAY ahead of it's time, yet it still managed to stay afloat. A feat to be commended, most definitely.

I don't have a PS3, and as much as I love this series, I will not be buying the console just for it. It's not economically feasable. But, if Beyond Good and Evil 2 doesn't come out for PC, consider me sold on the PS3, and able to finish the series I've loved for years.

I'm staying away from most gaming forums once MGS4 comes out. I will NOT have it ruined.

PurplezArctic

13 Jun 2008, 12:57am

There've been widely-reported rumors of 90-minute cutscenes. Not 90 minutes OF cutscenes.... not 90-minute cutscene.... 90-minute cutscenes.

Still looking forward to it.

I'm excited about that aspect alone! I'm a sucker for the stories..

Thrax

13 Jun 2008, 12:59am

Kotaku confirms that 90 minute cutscenes are not in MGS4.

Snarkasm

13 Jun 2008, 1:27am

Link? Last I heard their review wasn't up because they haven't finished playing it (which was, uh, today).

Gate28

13 Jun 2008, 1:46am

im about 6 hours in and so far the longest cutscene was about 20 minutes, followed by a boss you dun wana fight in the dark O.O

Gate28

14 Jun 2008, 8:39pm

KOTAKU epic fails, the last cutscene in the game, if you count the last fight with Liquid (which is pretty much an interactive cutscene)and the credits, it hit about the 90 minute mark.

Thrax

14 Jun 2008, 9:07pm

A cutscene is an SMV. Interactivity != cutscene, and MGS4's creator agrees. :P

The Kotaku quote was from whatshisface.

Gate28

14 Jun 2008, 9:28pm

what i ment by interactive cutscene is that when you press a button, a new cutscene starts showing snake beathing the crap out of liquid, and you do that till liquids heal is gone.

airbornflght

16 Jun 2008, 5:14am

Ok. I just finished the first act and watched the beginning of the second act. Talk about some long cutscenes. I love them. I just hate to know that this is the end. It's like losing a good friend.

I took back my 40gig ps3 and got the 80gb bundle.

Gate28

16 Jun 2008, 5:48am

amazing game, m8. i beat it in just under 21 hours. played MGO yet?

GrayFox

18 Jun 2008, 7:15am

Took me 17 and a half hours give or take to finish it.
(Finished it friday the 13th)

Heres what I thought about it.

This games biggest problem is that it has to be played with a controller. I would have much preferred a keyboard/mouse setup. The new controls as well take some getting use to. They added in an auto aim as well (I tried it out its easier to just aim for the head and shoot your self, Takes less ammo.)

Graphics were as I expected, not nearly as good as crysis but decent considering that the PS3 only has a G70 GPU and 512MB of shared memory.

The ps3 controller/controls really prevented me from getting immersed the game for the first hour or so. But once I got use to it wasn't a problem.

The stealth elements in this are much better the new adaptive camo and omission of the soliton radar system is interesting. But they added in the snake eye its a bit more useful then the radar was.

The game continues to get better as it progresses and as in tradition with the metal gear solid games there is another cutscene after the credits. However instead of leaving you with more questions. They answer any remaining questions you may have had.

I would strongly recommend this game to anyone it is a work of art and near flawless, Its only flaws lie in the playstation hardware. Overall this is probably the best game ive ever played.