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SM-Bot
8 Dec 2003, 7:54pm
In a pre-announcement, Yahoo has said it plans to do something serious about spam next year. According to Reuters the new initiative, named 'Domain Keys' will involve automatic cryptographic signatures on mail. The signature will then identify which Internet domain the mail is from.

This line of attack on spam seems rather more promising than the law-based line, which doesn't seem to be going the right way, even assuming you could identify who the lawbreakers were. And though many of us may feel like kneecapping the spammers, that approach suffers from the same problem, plus the problem of legality.

Though Yahoo is not ready to lay out the details yet, it says it will provide free specifications and code -- always a good way to get your proposal adopted on the Net -- some time next year. In the mean time it is dropping hints. It's the Internet protocol version of vapourware: software announced far in advance of its introduction, with the aim of slowing sales of rival products.

In this case the alternatives being "nipped in the bud" are proposals like SPF, sponsored by Yahoo Mail rivals pobox.com. Other people working on the problem of identifying the source of mail include the IRTF (Internet Research Task Force). Clearly Yahoo doesn't feel these net.bigwigs are getting there fast enough and want to shortcircuit the process by announcing the imminent announcement of its own pet scheme.

The main difference between SPF and Yahoo's "Domain Keys" is that Yahoo uses cryptographic signatures, rather than the IP (numeric) address of the sender, to determine the source of a mail. This means the receiving system has to first download the entire mail in order to check the signature. In the case of SPF you can reject the mail immediately, since the originating IP address is revealed, caller-ID style, the moment someone contacts your system with a message. There's also a certain processing overhead inherent in the Yahoo idea, since there will be huge numbers of signatures to check - good news for purveyors of 64 bit CPUs everywhere.

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Mt_Goat
8 Dec 2003, 8:17pm
They better do something because I went from 80 pcs of spam a day to close to 200 in the past month. And I am not doing anything different than I ever had before.

Spinner
8 Dec 2003, 8:44pm
I have two words for ya mate:

Spam Inspector

http://www.giantcompany.com

Mt_Goat
8 Dec 2003, 9:05pm
Spinner had this to say
I have two words for ya mate:

Spam Inspector

http://www.giantcompany.com
But Yahoo is web based so software like that won't do any good. I have other email accounts like hotmail that don't get much at all but I have stuff that I hate to change that is based through my yahoo account that makes me keep it.

Spinner
8 Dec 2003, 9:37pm
I see, I didn't realise that. They don't have any pop3 setups at all? If that's the case then, I have two words for you:

Your Screwed;)

In all seriousness though, I know your pain. I've had my Zoom based email account for almost 10 years now, and I get about 150 spam emails a day. Until I found that spam beating program I mentioned above, my email checking days were hell. However like you said, web based emails are a completly different kettle of fish. Lets just hope Yahoo's efforts produce some results soon.

Mt_Goat
8 Dec 2003, 9:42pm
Not entirely screwed as they do have a "Bulk Mail" box for the spam that I have now resorted to just dumping and a spam button to identify new spam so it doesn't go in my inbox anymore.

Spinner
Please don't be so blunt anymore as it makes me think of what I've been missing lately. ;)

Spinner
8 Dec 2003, 9:48pm
mtgoat had this to say
Spinner
Please don't be so blunt anymore as it makes me think of what I've been missing lately. ;)

Oh, ha ha, I see. Well in that case:

I'm Sorry

;D

Shivian
9 Dec 2003, 1:14am
Spinner had this to say
I see, I didn't realise that. They don't have any pop3 setups at all? If that's the case then, I have two words for you:

Your Screwed;)
YahooPOPs is a good proggy for getting around that (open source too).