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Lincoln
15 Jul 2008, 1:23pm
...opens Friday. Who's in? :bigggrin:
I plan on going to see a 12:01AM showing on Thursday. I am SO IN.
Wife and I are in a toss up between HellBoy: The Golden Army or Dark Knight....
We'd see both, but she's headed out of town to visit her Mom on Sunday...
Guess we could still see both....... One Fri, one on Sat night...
I'm really looking forward to Dark Knight...
fatcat
15 Jul 2008, 3:14pm
I'm gonna see it, just dont know which night yet. the theater here doesnt do that 12:01am show.
kryyst
15 Jul 2008, 3:16pm
Definitely going to see it, just needing to arrange the details on which grandparent gets to watch our daughter.
Lincoln
15 Jul 2008, 3:37pm
Wife and I are in a toss up between HellBoy: The Golden Army or Dark Knight....
You're mad! :p Hellboy was a big let down :(
Lincoln
15 Jul 2008, 3:38pm
/me kicks Thrax and Brian
12:01 at MJR.
We're MAKING IT HAPPEN! :ninja:
UPSLynx
15 Jul 2008, 4:10pm
I honestly am in.
...but I work thursday, friday, saturday :(
* Keebler kicks Thrax and Brian
12:01 at MJR.
We're MAKING IT HAPPEN! :ninja:
wow, strong extended invitation
I am not allowed to miss the midnight showing (nor would I want to). My wife put it on the calendar like 8 months ago.
WagsFTW
16 Jul 2008, 12:38am
Magic just bought the two of us tickets for the midnight showing on Thursday night here in Grand Rapids. So excited!!! :D
fatcat
16 Jul 2008, 1:24am
OK, screw my redneck city...
/me just purchased two tickets to THE DARK KNIGHT 12:10am in Columbia, MO.
tiberiuslazarus, WE ARE GOING TO THE MOVIES!
TiberiusLazarus
16 Jul 2008, 2:02am
OK, screw my redneck city...
* fatcat just purchased two tickets to THE DARK KNIGHT 12:10am in Columbia, MO.
tiberiuslazarus, WE ARE GOING TO THE MOVIES!
As long as you don't try to grab my leg like last time :wink:
UPSLynx
16 Jul 2008, 2:14am
Hope everyone enjoys the show. It'll be great, really.
Someone's gotta stay behind and put the news on the air for those not watching...
I'd just get in the way, anyways. you know, too big :sad2:
UPSWeezer
16 Jul 2008, 3:28am
Hope everyone enjoys the show. It'll be great, really.
Someone's gotta stay behind and put the news on the air for those not watching...
I'd just get in the way, anyways. you know, too big :sad2:
Why can't you be more like Shorty?
TiberiusLazarus
16 Jul 2008, 3:29am
Why can't you be more like Shorty?
Because he's tall???
BLuKnight
16 Jul 2008, 6:09am
Definitely seeing it. Omniture just bought my team tickets for the 3:20pm on Friday... along with concession stand gift certificates.
I am so in!
Shorty
16 Jul 2008, 9:19am
We have to wait a week longer :(
I'm patient. I can wait for the DVD.
GHoosdum
16 Jul 2008, 5:11pm
I want to see it, but I will be waiting a bit because I've been hearing our theaters are adding 3AM and 6AM shows because the midnight showings sold out last week. I'll just wait until I can purchase tickets the day of the show and still get in.
Crazy Joe
17 Jul 2008, 5:21pm
Closest midnight showing to me is Daytona Beach and that's about 25 miles or so away. I'll wait until Friday and go see it sometime in the morning.
ten hours thirtynine minutes to go, super excited.
I wanted to go see it in Imax but you had to go stand in like for midnight tickets to that... Ill just do that on friday or saturday.
GnomeWizardd
18 Jul 2008, 12:55am
I have netflix so Id normally wait, I havent been to the movie in 9 months, BUT this one i gotta see! I get paid Friday and work on sat and wife works sunday. I am thinking maybe a weeknight BUT we are going to see it!
Bobby1211
18 Jul 2008, 4:43am
I was unaware (or wasn't paying enough attn) that there was midnight showings. At my local mega theater there are multiple 12:xx showings... all sold out as of now. It's all good. Got tix for 8:30 Friday night. Works well for Date Night... errrr Date Knight?
-Bobby
primesuspect
18 Jul 2008, 8:15am
I concur. Far, far exceeded my expectations. I usually have low expectations for movies, so when one like this comes along, it brings a great deal of surprise and joy.
Heath Ledger deserves some kind of award for his amazing performance. Every scene with him was incredibly tense, chaotic, and frightening. He truly created the Joker that everyone needed.
And that's what struck me most about this movie. I'm hard to shake, but throughout the movie I was extremely nervous and tense about things. To say this movie was grim is an understatement.
I am so, so heartened to see that superhero movies are "growing up". First Ironman, now this - superhero movies with serious human conflict, struggle, and adult issues.
I highly recommend.
fatcat
18 Jul 2008, 10:01am
Ok, Heath was excellent as the Joker. He truly captured it.
Overall it was a good movie but.
I did not like the new "bat" costumes. Batman Begins one was better. I did not like how they killed off Two-Face. I felt they should have just let him be shown as two-face, and then save him for the 3rd movie and have a longer stand-off vs batman. I understand why they didnt show the death of the Joker, just left him hanging there. But honestly, will anyone be able to replace Heath as the joker in the 3rd movie? Rachel dying is fine with me. Bring on Vicky Vale and Catwoman. Scarecrow is a little bitch now.
So this leaves Batman to face-off against: The "new" joker? Scarecrow? The riddler? There was no signs as to who the next villian would be like there was at the end of Batman Begins.
Hopefully they bring back the mansion and batcave in the 3rd movie, as I felt the penthouse/underground lair didnt suit the batman image.
Heath as the Joker made this movie good. He nailed the part and kept ya on your toes about what would happen next. He did an outstanding job, which I doubt can be done again.
We shall see.
It was good, a little on the long side. Heath Ledger's performance exceeded expectations, Aaron Eckhart also performed well.
I thought Christian Bale's performance a bit weak, not that he missed the role, but the people around him were fairly powerful and much of this movie really wasn't about Batman. The voice they atone to Batman has always been bothersome to me though.
Clutch
19 Jul 2008, 7:30pm
I agree about the voice Nomad, I hate the Batman voice so much, he sounds like such a ****** to me. Heath was just nothing short of amazing as The Joker. Nobody will be able to play the part so well. And the pencil trick owns hardcore.
And the pencil trick owns hardcore.
Pretty much my favorite moment in the movie. I'm going to go see it again in imax on sunday, i was so tiered by the end of the midnight show.
Winfrey
19 Jul 2008, 8:36pm
Going tonight to Springfield. Should be able to catch a viewing, along with a delicious meal at Lambert's. Going to be a good night tonight.
Winfrey
20 Jul 2008, 5:08pm
I thought it was easily the best movie I've seen all year. Heath was an awesome joker, at least as good as Jack Nicholson's in the first one. The movie didn't really point to a sequel, but I have heard that this director is not doing another batman. Something to do with Heath dying. Any truth to that?
Wait, did you just say that Jack Nicholson's Joker was good? :horrified:
Winfrey
20 Jul 2008, 5:41pm
Wait, did you just say that Jack Nicholson's Joker was good? :horrified:
It was better than all the others before him.
Necropolis
20 Jul 2008, 6:29pm
Me and Shorty are off to see this in the IMAX in Manchester on Friday. I am SO looking forward to it.
fatcat
20 Jul 2008, 6:31pm
The director is locked in for one more batman
Christian Bale is locked in for two more batmans
I'm pretty sure if they do two more, Nolan will be doing both.
Kwitko
20 Jul 2008, 10:23pm
TDK is the #1 movie on IMDB, kicking The Godfather off its throne after umpteen trillion weeks.
PurplezArctic
21 Jul 2008, 3:13am
Ok, Heath was excellent as the Joker. He truly captured it.
Overall it was a good movie but.
I did not like the new "bat" costumes. Batman Begins one was better. I did not like how they killed off Two-Face. I felt they should have just let him be shown as two-face, and then save him for the 3rd movie and have a longer stand-off vs batman. I understand why they didnt show the death of the Joker, just left him hanging there. But honestly, will anyone be able to replace Heath as the joker in the 3rd movie? Rachel dying is fine with me. Bring on Vicky Vale and Catwoman. Scarecrow is a little bitch now.
So this leaves Batman to face-off against: The "new" joker? Scarecrow? The riddler? There was no signs as to who the next villian would be like there was at the end of Batman Begins.
Hopefully they bring back the mansion and batcave in the 3rd movie, as I felt the penthouse/underground lair didnt suit the batman image.
Heath as the Joker made this movie good. He nailed the part and kept ya on your toes about what would happen next. He did an outstanding job, which I doubt can be done again.
We shall see.
You just had to put it there for the guy who hasn't seen it. Damnit!
BLuKnight
21 Jul 2008, 5:09am
Great movie. Ledger definitely our performed Bale and was by far the best Batman villain to date.
fatcat
21 Jul 2008, 5:13am
You just had to put it there for the guy who hasn't seen it. Damnit!
That's why it has the spoiler tag. It was your weakness that ruined it for you, not I.
kryyst
21 Jul 2008, 2:03pm
That was awesome.
Don't necessarily count on Two-Face being dead. It's likely that they'll bring him back because they never actually said - yeah he's dead. Though it was implied. Joker, was originally setup to continue on as a villain and they have been talking about recasts for him. Heath set the bar, but in a year or two from now they only need to get an equally good joker and not a direct replacement. I was a little shocked they didn't have a 'look who's next' villain moment. But they have plenty of options to choose from.
Really my biggest beef, and it's the main one I had from the first, is the Batman voice. It sounds like a bad Clint Eastwood impression. "So you gotta be asking yourself PUNK! Did I fire 5 battarangs or 6?"
fatcat
22 Jul 2008, 12:14am
kryyst...
now that I think about it, I know who the next villian is...
throughout the entire movie, harvey keeps saying "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian".....batman is the villian now. at the end he runs as "the one" being chased now. prolly not so, but just a thought.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 2:05am
I just got back from the movie. I left at the beginning of the credits... I hope there wasn't a Picard comes back to life scene after the credits that I missed or anything.
I was also irked by the voice. Aside from that, though, I really liked how the movie kept you on your toes.
I think the ending was meant to show just how heroic batman really is. True, there's always the chance that the protagonist will turn, but I'm thinking we've still got plenty of traditional villains to go through. I also hope Two Face isn't dead. I was actually surprised that they ran through his whole character development in the movie... I was thinking they'd have Dent become Two Face right at the end, then develop as the main villain next movie. Guess not!
Crazy Joe
22 Jul 2008, 12:02pm
He fell off a building and was not Batman, so I think it'd be hard for Dent to stil be alive.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 1:08pm
He fell off a building and was not Batman, so I think it'd be hard for Dent to stil be alive.
I don't think he fell any farther than the mob boss did. Plus he's a VILLAIN.
kryyst
22 Jul 2008, 1:41pm
Batman won't be a villain, he may be hunted, much as he's always been and to some in the public eye he'll be the bad guy. But he's a true vigilante and that means that the cops have to take the position that he's the bad guy. There will be more uber villains for him to go after
yeah dent was a villain he only fell 2 or 3 stories from the looks of it, if they want him a live he can be. Simple enough to have a scene at the start of the next movie where he sits up on a stretcher or just have him reach out and grab his coin. Nothing major, just enough. I would imagine in the next movie, if they bring back someone else as the Joker we'll see his sidkick Harley Quinn. I was originally thinking it may have been the spanish cop before Dent killed her off.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 1:51pm
Dent didn't kill her. He flipped "good side" on his coin and simply bashed her unconscious with the butt of his gun.
Lincoln
22 Jul 2008, 2:19pm
Yeah, I'm sure Gordon missed the part where Dent still had a pulse and accidentally forgot to put a body in the casket at his elaborate funeral :rolleyes:
Dead.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 2:26pm
Yeah, I'm sure Gordon missed the part where Dent still had a pulse and accidentally forgot to put a body in the casket at his elaborate funeral :rolleyes:
Dead.
Was there a casket in the funeral scene? I must have missed it... It seemed more like a press conference than a funeral to me. I thought of it as a way of reaffirming Dent's heroism to the city than an actual funeral to mourn his death.
Winfrey
22 Jul 2008, 2:28pm
Yeah, I'm sure Gordon missed the part where Dent still had a pulse and accidentally forgot to put a body in the casket at his elaborate funeral :rolleyes:
Dead.
I can see your smilies through the spoiler tags :tongue:
I wouldn't be satisfied with two-face as the next villain. He's just a pissed off dude with half of his face gone. The only angle they can work is that he wants revenge for Rachel, which is a thin angle. I would much rather see catwoman or the Penguin enter as the villain of the next movie.
kryyst
22 Jul 2008, 3:40pm
Two-Faced in the comics made for a good running villain he was mean methodical and unpredictable he wasn't the hack from the previous movie. He's also not a master criminal as his goal was rather specific - take out batman.
Catwoman also makes for a decent secondary character but she's not strong enough to build an entire movie around. The Penguin was always full of grand enough schemes so he could be a major villain, though I personally hope not as I can't stand him. A psychotic version of the Riddler would work as well.
Then we've got one of his more powerful nemisis in Bane, but I would think they should leave that for a later movie as Bane actually broke Batman's spine in the comics and retired him for a good while. The biggest problem is that there are lots of usefull minor villains in the Batman verse, but only a few major ones to build an entire movie around and unfortunately Joker was the king of that list. Perhaps some of the organizations he goes up against may work well like the League of Assassins or another member of the Al Ghul chain.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 4:33pm
Joker, was originally setup to continue on as a villain and they have been talking about recasts for him. Heath set the bar, but in a year or two from now they only need to get an equally good joker and not a direct replacement.
I just had a thought on this: Mark Hamill. Why not?
Buddy J
22 Jul 2008, 7:27pm
Hamill could do it, but he seems content in his voice-acting career.
I'd hope the next movie features Mr. Freeze or The Riddler. The current rumours point to The Riddler, with David Tennant (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a76431/david-tennant-craves-batman-villain-role.html) (Dr. Who) being tossed around as somebody who wants to do it. The character's background surely fits in to this darker Batman world, but I don't know if Tennant can be so serious. He is doing Hamlet, so who knows.
I didn't come away from DK as impressed as some of you. The depth of Ledger's performance as The Joker overshadows so much in the film. Maybe it's because of the direction or the script, but I didn't see Batman grow as a character at all, and that left me disappointed. The overlying question of "Will Batman kill?" was beat to death. You know he wont kill The Joker from the get-go. It's not enough of a plot device to base the movie on. It's like making a movie about the Titanic and then spending 2 hours alluding to the boat possibly not sinking. I didn't buy it.
GHoosdum
22 Jul 2008, 7:42pm
I'd think that the Riddler would be a more suitable main villain. At the root, Mr. Freeze has too much good in him in his current incarnation.
UPSWeezer
22 Jul 2008, 8:39pm
too... many... spoilers... can't... stop... self... from looking...
Winfrey
22 Jul 2008, 8:44pm
It's like a minefield mrite?
Lincoln
22 Jul 2008, 9:34pm
If David Tenant plays the Riddler in the next one I'll need to sit in the back row. Alone.
Thrax
22 Jul 2008, 10:41pm
Just sayin'... When I read "David Tenant," there were awful thoughts about awful thoughts about Keebler. :horrified:
Qeldroma
23 Jul 2008, 3:23pm
.... I'd hope the next movie features Mr. Freeze or The Riddler. The current rumours point to The Riddler, with David Tennant (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a76431/david-tennant-craves-batman-villain-role.html) (Dr. Who) being tossed around as somebody who wants to do it....
What? Maybe I'm out of touch. Is Jim Carrey a little too long-in-the-tooth to reprise his role?
Lincoln
23 Jul 2008, 4:00pm
What? Maybe I'm out of touch. Is Jim Carrey a little too long-in-the-tooth to reprise his role?I wouldn't know why they'd want a reprise. The entire point of the series is expunging the memory of the first.
primesuspect
23 Jul 2008, 4:07pm
Yeah they are staying as far away from the original batman movies as they possibly can. Have you seen an old one versus one of the new ones? They are as different in almost every way as you can possibly get.
Old = campy, comic, ridiculous, goofy
New = dark, serious, mature, tragic
Qeldroma
23 Jul 2008, 5:33pm
Old = campy, comic, ridiculous, goofy
New = dark, serious, mature, tragic
I suppose that's part of why I didn't take to this movie- this is a comicbook character I should be able to take my 7 year-old to see. There's enough sick, dark and tragic in RL or that could be spent on some other role.
primesuspect
23 Jul 2008, 5:36pm
This is not a kid's movie. My kids are 9 and 10. They both really liked it, but they didn't totally grasp the story either. It would probably be too scary for a 7 year old.
fatcat
23 Jul 2008, 5:53pm
I suppose that's part of why I didn't take to this movie- this is a comicbook character I should be able to take my 7 year-old to see. There's enough sick, dark and tragic in RL or that could be spent on some other role.
They already did the kids versions. Batman, Batman Returns, Batman and Robin, Batman Forever.
This is the adult version.
Winfrey
23 Jul 2008, 7:10pm
They already did the kids versions. Batman, Batman Returns, Batman and Robin, Batman Forever.
This is the awesome version.
fix't
I suppose that's part of why I didn't take to this movie- this is a comicbook character I should be able to take my 7 year-old to see. There's enough sick, dark and tragic in RL or that could be spent on some other role.
I'm sure glad they didn't write the movie for 7 year olds. Hollywood has done quite enough of that in the last 20 years.
primesuspect
23 Jul 2008, 8:03pm
I don't think a 7 year old would appreciate or enjoy the comics, either. I'm not sure how Batman got turned into something for kids - probably has a lot to do with the 60's TV show and the campiness. I think that TV show worked hard to ruin comic superheros, and set the entire industry back. I remember reading X-Men when I was 8 or 9 and being bewildered most of the time. I had no idea what was going on. When I re-read my collection at 12-13 years old, it became so much more to me.
kryyst
23 Jul 2008, 9:37pm
Indeed if you read any of the original Batman comics they weren't for kids, if you read any of Frank Millers Dark Night Returns stuff - it's definitely not for kids. In fact most of the proper Batman storyline is not for kids. There is actually only a comparatively small volume of Batman comics that are kid friendly and have a similar feel to the Batman TV show.
Even Tim Burton's first 2 Batman movies weren't really kid friendly, just far more so compared to Nolan's. However the 3 (or was it 4) craptacular batman movies that followed Burton were. They also sucked so much that they almost completely derailed the chance of having another Batman movie being green lighted.
Nomad
24 Jul 2008, 12:27am
Indeed if you read any of the original Batman comics they weren't for kids, if you read any of Frank Millers Dark Night Returns stuff - it's definitely not for kids. In fact most of the proper Batman storyline is not for kids. There is actually only a comparatively small volume of Batman comics that are kid friendly and have a similar feel to the Batman TV show.
Even Tim Burton's first 2 Batman movies weren't really kid friendly, just far more so compared to Nolan's. However the 3 (or was it 4) craptacular batman movies that followed Burton were. They also sucked so much that they almost completely derailed the chance of having another Batman movie being green lighted.
Yeah, this was what I planned on saying. Especially since Miller, Batman has always been the darkest and most surreal of comic book canon characters. Comic books are not intended for children in general really.
Qeldroma
24 Jul 2008, 7:37pm
I was also a comicbook person too, but was partial to the Marvel group. However, Batman was something we did read when I was in grade school (maybe I wasn't ADD hooked up to TV and PC/video games back then) and DC was more revolved around the Superman "truth, justice, and the American way" paradigm from Supe right on up to&throughout the Justice League. Batman had Robin, yadda, yadda. I was in college in the 60's and didn't care about comics after that.
Regardless, bottom line is that they will make it whatever will sell the most tickets.
GnomeWizardd
25 Jul 2008, 12:22am
Batman is actually one of the darkest comics to date, ITs all about inner struggle to do right or wrong and the terror of losing his parents messes with him sometimes. I havent seen the new movie yet I definately want too tho! But people who say it wasnt kid friendly, Take them to see spiderman thats a comic geared at a little younger audiance always has been, But batman?? Gimmie my dark superhero anyday!
TvManPwns
27 Jul 2008, 9:02pm
Just saw it and well, I have so say I really enjoyed it. I was happy to see that they had taken it into a darker more scarier storyline previous to the batman returns movie. Just thought I would add my two cents. :)
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